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moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Richard/all,

Will give it a try, but at least for me, using braille, I lost the ability to find footnote numbers in documents and thus proceed with reading them.

                                                            Cheers,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

I find that leaving UI checked works fine.

If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document.

Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting:

Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
General Options Word Settings
Since Office 2013, JAWS has started to rely on UI Automation (UIA) provided by Microsoft, in order to provide the most robust solution for documents in Office.
Microsoft is making significant changes in UIA in the ongoing development of Office 365 and this control, when unchecked, gives users an opportunity to rely only on the Document Object Model rather than UIA. This could be useful for users who are using Office 365 and run into any issues that might have been introduced by recent changes in UIA.
Restart Word after changing this setting for your changes to take effect.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Faulse info, all I’m saying. Please don’t post anything like that on this list.


On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:23 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Richard is this really you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:44 PM, Rick Mladek wrote:
So be it, take it somewhere else!
-
I didn't bring it here.  And whether I agree with the slant of the article or not, I personally think what is in it, which can be verified elsewhere, is important enough to warrant mentioning in a venue such as this one.

Some of us don't believe that, "Kill the messenger," is a worthwhile philosophy.

And with that, I'm done.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Rick Mladek
 

So be it, take it somewhere else!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

Fact-based reporting, even with a very strong political slant, isn't propaganda.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

Fact-based reporting, even with a very strong political slant, isn't propaganda.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

This is just more political propaganda... Which  I thought was off limits here.


On 11/16/2020 4:40 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Re: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Addison. Once you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus ESCAPE, and are in Task Manager on the tab you wish, press JAWS key plus ALT plus W. You must hold down JAWS key plus ALT, and press W. This will put JAWS in Virtual mode, and you can then select all, and copy to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:34 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  and desktop computer window10  !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc  it’s take me to task manager  window page  When I arrow  through the items I press ctrl + a to select all  then press ctrl + c  it won’t copyselector   !! How can I copy all the item on task manager window page with jaws2020 ?

Addison


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Vaughn Brown
 

Thank you, Richard. Informative and well-cited.
Why disabilities benefit policies can improve will be the focus of my graduate thesis.
Best,
Vaughn


On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

 Yes Kevin, it is really me.Are you thinking I know you outside of this list, or just questioning the source?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Richard is this really you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All  I have jaws2020  and desktop computer window10  !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc  it’s take me to task manager  window page  When I arrow  through the items I press ctrl + a to select all  then press ctrl + c  it won’t copyselector   !! How can I copy all the item on task manager window page with jaws2020 ?

Addison


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Tyler Wood
 

Thank you so much!
I'll be emailing and getting my SMA renewed.
Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Here is the direct email address of the person I dealt with. ryan@canasstech.com There is another agency however, they seemed to be licking their chops at the thought of taking my money. In other words, they may sell you something you don't need. Also, Ryan will make sure you don't get charged taxes if you can provide him with your CNIB #. Going directly through FS, 1. You might be sent to the Canadian distributer who was licking their chops & 2. You could be given the cost in U S funds. Which could be a lot more expensive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: November 16, 2020 5:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi David,
In Canada, Who did you go through for this? It's been a while since I have had
to go through this process so I'm not sure if the dealer has changed. The last
time I called (I forget the specific one) I had to leave 4 messages, so I hope I
can go direct through FS.
Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165
for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH,
yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for
the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either
12 or 6% on the $165.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount
code. Are there any such codes available?

On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote:
> Here is the link, tom.
>
>
https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
<https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*T.
> Civitello
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM > *To:*
main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Could you provide a link
to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find > it. Tom > > *From:*Richard
Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
>
> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM > >
*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re:
Jaws SMA > > That’s why I did it through the web site.
>
> Richard
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject > of
flying.
>
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies > in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 > > Check
out my web site at: www.turner42.com >
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>

turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84
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>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick >
Mladek > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM > *To:*
main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Have you tried getting
through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m > now on hold and have
been for near past 30-minutes...
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> >
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gerald
> Levy via groups.io > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:*
main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: Jaws
SMA > > That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the >
licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a > two-year
license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all > first-time
JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper > than
purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more. Another advantage of > the
license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal > with like with
an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:
>
>
>
> There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license
> edition won't go up as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io
> <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>
>
> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
>
> *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA
>
> No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do. They are deliberately
> making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year
> license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS
> customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA
> arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few
> new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may
> simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching
> them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew
> their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the
> long run.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
>
> Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades.
>
> After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1
> more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or
> is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is
> correct?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Doering
>
> Pricing Analyst
>
> Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf
> Of Bill White
>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
>
> Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1
> will be $210.00.
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On
> Behalf Of Don H
>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Jaws SMA
>
> Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember
> correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I
> am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good
> until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.
>
>


moderated Can JAWS Tell You when a Facebook Event Goes Live?

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

Every Wednesday morning a pastor has a short devotion on Facebook.  I can tell when I go to the church’s web site that the event is scheduled to begin at a certain time, but I can never tell when it is happening live and can only assume it is happening, and for that reason I miss part of it live.   I am using JAWS 2021 and Windows 10.  Have any of you been able to tell the moment when a scheduled Facebook event goes live?  If so, how?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

David Diamond
 

Here is the direct email address of the person I dealt with. ryan@canasstech.com There is another agency however, they seemed to be licking their chops at the thought of taking my money. In other words, they may sell you something you don't need. Also, Ryan will make sure you don't get charged taxes if you can provide him with your CNIB #. Going directly through FS, 1. You might be sent to the Canadian distributer who was licking their chops & 2. You could be given the cost in U S funds. Which could be a lot more expensive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: November 16, 2020 5:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi David,
In Canada, Who did you go through for this? It's been a while since I have had
to go through this process so I'm not sure if the dealer has changed. The last
time I called (I forget the specific one) I had to leave 4 messages, so I hope I
can go direct through FS.
Thanks


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Diamond
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165
for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH,
yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for
the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either
12 or 6% on the $165.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount
code. Are there any such codes available?

On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote:
> Here is the link, tom.
>
>
https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
<https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*T.
> Civitello
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM > *To:*
main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Could you provide a link
to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find > it. Tom > > *From:*Richard
Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
>
> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM > >
*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re:
Jaws SMA > > That’s why I did it through the web site.
>
> Richard
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject > of
flying.
>
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies > in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 > > Check
out my web site at: www.turner42.com >
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>

turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84
d%7C8
>

4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata
=GAS
> 0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0>
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick >
Mladek > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM > *To:*
main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Have you tried getting
through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m > now on hold and have
been for near past 30-minutes...
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> >
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gerald
> Levy via groups.io > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:*
main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: Jaws
SMA > > That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the >
licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a > two-year
license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all > first-time
JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper > than
purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more. Another advantage of > the
license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal > with like with
an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:
>
>
>
> There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license
> edition won't go up as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io
> <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>
>
> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
>
> *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA
>
> No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do. They are deliberately
> making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year
> license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS
> customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA
> arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few
> new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may
> simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching
> them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew
> their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the
> long run.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
>
> Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades.
>
> After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1
> more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or
> is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is
> correct?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Doering
>
> Pricing Analyst
>
> Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
>
> Mobile:
>
> 445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
>
> https://ibvi.org
>
>
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> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf
> Of Bill White
>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
>
> Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1
> will be $210.00.
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On
> Behalf Of Don H
>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Jaws SMA
>
> Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember
> correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I
> am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good
> until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.
>
>


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Madison Martin
 

Hi Bill,
Thanks for this, I didn't know that's how you're supposed to navigate the
folder. Wish I'd known that before! Thanks again!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi, Sieghard. Even if Madison is using Windows 10, one thing he/she may not know
is that in the Apps Folder (accessed through shell:AppsFolder), one does not use
the up and down arrows to navigate through the files. The files are laid out
horizontally, and navigation is accomplished by using the left and right arrows.
Because of this, the JAWS application could have been missed, if the up and down
arrows were being used as the method of navigation in the Apps Folder.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

No offense, but maybe you are not doing something the way it is explained.
If you have Jaws installed on your computer and are using Windows 10 the
Shell:AppsFolder command will definitely show you a list which contains Jaws.
Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7? Don't think you said and I don't recall
if anybody asked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

The issue with that is that Jaws isn't on that list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hey there, Madison, BZ here again, grin! There's another way to do this in
windows ten. 1. Hit windows key plus r which will bring up the run dialog.
2. Type shell:appsfolder and then press enter. This will bring up a list of
all your applications. Down arrow until you hear jaws and then hit your
applications key and go down until you hear create shortcut and then press
enter. You'll get a message that will say something like do you want windows to
create a shortcut anyway and then press enter. I'm doing the message off the
top of my head so that's not the verbatim message you'll hear but this method
will create the jaws item on your desktop. If you're not comfortable doing this
and you need assistance, just let me know and I'll be happy to help you. BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison








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moderated Re: ident first line of paragraph

 

Forgot to mention that if you need to tweak the indent By amount ALT+Y throws focus directly there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: ident first line of paragraph

 

For any version of MS-Word from 2010 and later, this would likely be the easiest method:

1. Do a Select All (CTRL+A) if you want the indent to apply to all paragraphs, or select the range of text where you want the first line indents to be applied.
2. ALT+H,PG [Home Ribbon, open Paragraph Dialog].
3. ALT+S, throw focus to the Special dropdown in the indentation section, select First Line from the dropdown.
4. The "By" edit box will automatically be prepopulated with 0.5 inches.  If that's fine, jump to step 5, otherwise, edit the box to adjust the indent depth to what you want.
5. Activate the OK button on the Paragraph dialog.

All of your first lines on all paragraphs will now be indented by the amount specified.

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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser

T. Civitello
 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser
 
Tom, this isn't something I've encountered and I'm a regular user of Brave.
What voice are you using? If Eloquence, are you using the Reed voice or one of the other variations?
What parameters are you using, as in the settings for pitch and rate?
Is this behavior consistent? In other words, if you perform a "say all" three times on the same page will it exhibit the same behavior on the same text all three times?
Can you provide a specific URL where you notice this behavior and specific text areas where the voice changes?
With this information we can try to see if we can reproduce the issue.
By chance I'm wondering if the "indicate capitalization" option in Settings Center got changed. To verify this,
1: Ensure that Brave is open and that it is the active window.
2. Press insert-6 (on the numbers row) to open Settings Center.
3. Type "cap" without the quotes.
4. Arrow down to the "indicate capitalization" setting and ensure that it is set for "char (meaning character.)


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/16/2020 3:14 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
I am having a problem with the "say all" command in the latest version 2021 of Jaws. Using the Brave Web browser, Random words are spoken with a rising pitch, like capitalized letters are. At times it occurs every few words and is very annoying. A friend looked at the screen an could not see any thing that would cause this. It doesn't happen with IE or Edge. Does anyone else have this problem or a cure.  Tom


moderated Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser

T. Civitello
 

Elequence, Reed, rate 57, pitch65.
 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser
 
Tom, this isn't something I've encountered and I'm a regular user of Brave.
What voice are you using? If Eloquence, are you using the Reed voice or one of the other variations?
What parameters are you using, as in the settings for pitch and rate?
Is this behavior consistent? In other words, if you perform a "say all" three times on the same page will it exhibit the same behavior on the same text all three times?
Can you provide a specific URL where you notice this behavior and specific text areas where the voice changes?
With this information we can try to see if we can reproduce the issue.
By chance I'm wondering if the "indicate capitalization" option in Settings Center got changed. To verify this,
1: Ensure that Brave is open and that it is the active window.
2. Press insert-6 (on the numbers row) to open Settings Center.
3. Type "cap" without the quotes.
4. Arrow down to the "indicate capitalization" setting and ensure that it is set for "char (meaning character.)


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/16/2020 3:14 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
I am having a problem with the "say all" command in the latest version 2021 of Jaws. Using the Brave Web browser, Random words are spoken with a rising pitch, like capitalized letters are. At times it occurs every few words and is very annoying. A friend looked at the screen an could not see any thing that would cause this. It doesn't happen with IE or Edge. Does anyone else have this problem or a cure.  Tom


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Tyler Wood
 

Hi David,
In Canada, Who did you go through for this? It's been a while since I have had to go through this process so I'm not sure if the dealer has changed. The last time I called (I forget the specific one) I had to leave 4 messages, so I hope I can go direct through FS.
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165 for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH, yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either 12 or 6% on the $165.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount
code. Are there any such codes available?

On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote:
> Here is the link, tom.
>
> https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
<https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*T.
> Civitello
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA
>
> Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find
> it. Tom
>
> *From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
>
> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM
>
> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA
>
> That’s why I did it through the web site.
>
> Richard
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
> of flying.
>
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
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>
turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84
d%7C8
>
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> 0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0>
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick
> Mladek
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA
>
> Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m
> now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes...
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Gerald
> Levy via groups.io
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA
>
> That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the
> licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a
> two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all
> first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper
> than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more. Another advantage of
> the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal
> with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:
>
>
>
> There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license
> edition won't go up as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io
> <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>
>
> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
>
> *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA
>
> No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do. They are deliberately
> making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year
> license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS
> customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA
> arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few
> new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may
> simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching
> them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew
> their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the
> long run.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
>
> Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades.
>
> After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1
> more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or
> is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is
> correct?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Doering
>
> Pricing Analyst
>
> Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
>
> Mobile:
>
> 445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
>
> https://ibvi.org
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf
> Of Bill White
>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
>
> Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1
> will be $210.00.
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
> <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On
> Behalf Of Don H
>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Jaws SMA
>
> Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember
> correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I
> am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good
> until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.
>
>


moderated Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Yes Kevin, it is really me.Are you thinking I know you outside of this list, or just questioning the source?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Richard is this really you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

David Diamond
 

When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165 for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH, yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either 12 or 6% on the $165.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount
code. Are there any such codes available?

On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote:
> Here is the link, tom.
>
> https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
<https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal
>
>
> Bill White
>
> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*T.
> Civitello
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA
>
> Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find
> it.  Tom
>
> *From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com>
>
> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM
>
> *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA
>
> That’s why I did it through the web site.
>
> Richard
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject
> of flying.
>
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
> in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>
turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84
d%7C8
>
4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata
=GAS
> 0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0>
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick
> Mladek
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA
>
> Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m
> now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes...
>
> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Gerald
> Levy via groups.io
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA
>
> That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the
> licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a
> two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA.  Almost all
> first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper
> than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of
> the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal
> with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:
>
>
>
> There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license
> edition won't go up as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io
> <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>
>
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> *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
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> *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA
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> No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately
> making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year
> license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS
> customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA
> arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few
> new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may
> simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching
> them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew
> their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the
> long run.
>
> Gerald
>
> On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
>
> Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
>
> After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1
> more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or
> is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is
> correct?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Doering
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> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf
> Of Bill White
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> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
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> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
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> Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
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> Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1
> will be $210.00.
>
> Bill White
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> billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On
> Behalf Of Don H
>
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
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> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Subject: Jaws SMA
>
> Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember
> correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I
> am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good
> until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
>
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