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Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability
Fact-based reporting, even with a very strong political slant, isn't propaganda.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability
Randy Barnett
This is just more political propaganda... Which I thought was
off limits here.
On 11/16/2020 4:40 PM, Richard Turner
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Re: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Addison. Once you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus ESCAPE, and are in Task Manager on the tab you wish, press JAWS key plus ALT plus W. You must hold down JAWS key plus ALT, and press W. This will put JAWS in Virtual mode, and you can then select all, and copy to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:34 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?
Hi All I have jaws2020 and desktop computer window10 !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc it’s take me to task manager window page When I arrow through the items I press ctrl + a to select all then press ctrl + c it won’t copyselector !! How can I copy all the item on task manager window page with jaws2020 ? Addison
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Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability
Vaughn Brown
Thank you, Richard. Informative and well-cited.
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Why disabilities benefit policies can improve will be the focus of my graduate thesis. Best, Vaughn
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Jaws2020 How to copy the task manager page ?
O.Addison Gethers
Hi All I have jaws2020 and desktop computer window10 !! When I press ctrl + shift + esc it’s take me to task manager window page When I arrow through the items I press ctrl + a to select all then press ctrl + c it won’t copyselector !! How can I copy all the item on task manager window page with jaws2020 ? Addison
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Re: Jaws SMA
Tyler Wood
Thank you so much!
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I'll be emailing and getting my SMA renewed. Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:58 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA Here is the direct email address of the person I dealt with. ryan@canasstech.com There is another agency however, they seemed to be licking their chops at the thought of taking my money. In other words, they may sell you something you don't need. Also, Ryan will make sure you don't get charged taxes if you can provide him with your CNIB #. Going directly through FS, 1. You might be sent to the Canadian distributer who was licking their chops & 2. You could be given the cost in U S funds. Which could be a lot more expensive. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood Sent: November 16, 2020 5:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA Hi David, In Canada, Who did you go through for this? It's been a while since I have had to go through this process so I'm not sure if the dealer has changed. The last time I called (I forget the specific one) I had to leave 4 messages, so I hope I can go direct through FS. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165 for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH, yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either 12 or 6% on the $165. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount code. Are there any such codes available? On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote: > Here is the link, tom. > > https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > <https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *T. > Civitello > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find > it. Tom > > *From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > That’s why I did it through the web site. > > Richard > > "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject > of flying. > > There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies > in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." > > --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. > turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84 d%7C8 > 4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata =GAS > 0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0> > > *I’m not the card shark > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick > Mladek > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m > now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes... > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gerald > Levy via groups.io > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the > licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a > two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all > first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper > than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more. Another advantage of > the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal > with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote: > > > > There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license > edition won't go up as well. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io > <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do. They are deliberately > making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year > license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS > customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA > arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few > new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may > simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching > them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew > their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the > long run. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote: > > Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades. > > After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 > more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or > is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is > correct? > > Thanks, > > John Doering > > Pricing Analyst > > Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 > > Mobile: > > 445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 > > https://ibvi.org > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibv > i.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C49bccdebfe424c6350ff08d88a65634a%7C84d f9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637411515339672955%7CUnknown %7CTWFp > bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI 6Mn > 0%3D%7C1000&sdata=O7BsoNcpHVebexDW%2FwfH8kZmIslUOVhAenUvRDi4 qDQ%3D&res > erved=0> > > Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no > liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences > of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, > unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in > reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf > Of Bill White > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Re: Jaws SMA > > Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 > will be $210.00. > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On > Behalf Of Don H > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Jaws SMA > > Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember > correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I > am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good > until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that. > >
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Can JAWS Tell You when a Facebook Event Goes Live?
Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
Every Wednesday morning a pastor has a short devotion on Facebook. I can tell when I go to the church’s web site that the event is scheduled to begin at a certain time, but I can never tell when it is happening live and can only assume it is happening, and for that reason I miss part of it live. I am using JAWS 2021 and Windows 10. Have any of you been able to tell the moment when a scheduled Facebook event goes live? If so, how?
Rick Miller
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Re: Jaws SMA
David Diamond
Here is the direct email address of the person I dealt with. ryan@canasstech.com There is another agency however, they seemed to be licking their chops at the thought of taking my money. In other words, they may sell you something you don't need. Also, Ryan will make sure you don't get charged taxes if you can provide him with your CNIB #. Going directly through FS, 1. You might be sent to the Canadian distributer who was licking their chops & 2. You could be given the cost in U S funds. Which could be a lot more expensive.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood Sent: November 16, 2020 5:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA Hi David, In Canada, Who did you go through for this? It's been a while since I have had to go through this process so I'm not sure if the dealer has changed. The last time I called (I forget the specific one) I had to leave 4 messages, so I hope I can go direct through FS. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165 for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH, yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either 12 or 6% on the $165. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount code. Are there any such codes available? On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote: > Here is the link, tom. > > https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > <https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *T. > Civitello > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find > it. Tom > > *From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > That’s why I did it through the web site. > > Richard > > "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject > of flying. > > There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies > in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." > > --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. > turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84 d%7C8 > 4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata =GAS > 0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0> > > *I’m not the card shark > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick > Mladek > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m > now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes... > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gerald > Levy via groups.io > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the > licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a > two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all > first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper > than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more. Another advantage of > the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal > with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote: > > > > There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license > edition won't go up as well. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io > <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do. They are deliberately > making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year > license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS > customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA > arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few > new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may > simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching > them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew > their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the > long run. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote: > > Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades. > > After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 > more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or > is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is > correct? > > Thanks, > > John Doering > > Pricing Analyst > > Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 > > Mobile: > > 445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 > > https://ibvi.org > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibv > i.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C49bccdebfe424c6350ff08d88a65634a%7C84d f9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637411515339672955%7CUnknown %7CTWFp > bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI 6Mn > 0%3D%7C1000&sdata=O7BsoNcpHVebexDW%2FwfH8kZmIslUOVhAenUvRDi4 qDQ%3D&res > erved=0> > > Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no > liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences > of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, > unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in > reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf > Of Bill White > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Re: Jaws SMA > > Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 > will be $210.00. > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On > Behalf Of Don H > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Jaws SMA > > Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember > correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I > am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good > until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that. > >
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Re: getting Jaws on the desktop
Madison Martin
Hi Bill,
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Thanks for this, I didn't know that's how you're supposed to navigate the folder. Wish I'd known that before! Thanks again!
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: November 16, 2020 1:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop Hi, Sieghard. Even if Madison is using Windows 10, one thing he/she may not know is that in the Apps Folder (accessed through shell:AppsFolder), one does not use the up and down arrows to navigate through the files. The files are laid out horizontally, and navigation is accomplished by using the left and right arrows. Because of this, the JAWS application could have been missed, if the up and down arrows were being used as the method of navigation in the Apps Folder. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop No offense, but maybe you are not doing something the way it is explained. If you have Jaws installed on your computer and are using Windows 10 the Shell:AppsFolder command will definitely show you a list which contains Jaws. Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7? Don't think you said and I don't recall if anybody asked. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop The issue with that is that Jaws isn't on that list. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo Sent: November 15, 2020 1:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop Hey there, Madison, BZ here again, grin! There's another way to do this in windows ten. 1. Hit windows key plus r which will bring up the run dialog. 2. Type shell:appsfolder and then press enter. This will bring up a list of all your applications. Down arrow until you hear jaws and then hit your applications key and go down until you hear create shortcut and then press enter. You'll get a message that will say something like do you want windows to create a shortcut anyway and then press enter. I'm doing the message off the top of my head so that's not the verbatim message you'll hear but this method will create the jaws item on your desktop. If you're not comfortable doing this and you need assistance, just let me know and I'll be happy to help you. BZ! -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop Hi all, I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a shortcut I got 5 options: Run as administrator Open file location Unpin from taskbar Pin to start Uninstall Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws, I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks Madison -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Re: ident first line of paragraph
Forgot to mention that if you need to tweak the indent By amount ALT+Y throws focus directly there.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: ident first line of paragraph
For any version of MS-Word from 2010 and later, this would likely be the easiest method:
1. Do a Select All (CTRL+A) if you want the indent to apply to all paragraphs, or select the range of text where you want the first line indents to be applied. 2. ALT+H,PG [Home Ribbon, open Paragraph Dialog]. 3. ALT+S, throw focus to the Special dropdown in the indentation section, select First Line from the dropdown. 4. The "By" edit box will automatically be prepopulated with 0.5 inches. If that's fine, jump to step 5, otherwise, edit the box to adjust the indent depth to what you want. 5. Activate the OK button on the Paragraph dialog. All of your first lines on all paragraphs will now be indented by the amount specified. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser
T. Civitello
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave
browser Tom,
this isn't something I've encountered and I'm a regular user of Brave. What voice are you using? If Eloquence, are you using the Reed voice or one of the other variations? What parameters are you using, as in the settings for pitch and rate? Is this behavior consistent? In other words, if you perform a "say all" three times on the same page will it exhibit the same behavior on the same text all three times? Can you provide a specific URL where you notice this behavior and specific text areas where the voice changes? With this information we can try to see if we can reproduce the issue. By chance I'm wondering if the "indicate capitalization" option in Settings Center got changed. To verify this, 1: Ensure that Brave is open and that it is the active window. 2. Press insert-6 (on the numbers row) to open Settings Center. 3. Type "cap" without the quotes. 4. Arrow down to the "indicate capitalization" setting and ensure that it is set for "char (meaning character.) David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/16/2020 3:14 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
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Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser
T. Civitello
Elequence, Reed, rate 57, pitch65.
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave
browser Tom,
this isn't something I've encountered and I'm a regular user of Brave. What voice are you using? If Eloquence, are you using the Reed voice or one of the other variations? What parameters are you using, as in the settings for pitch and rate? Is this behavior consistent? In other words, if you perform a "say all" three times on the same page will it exhibit the same behavior on the same text all three times? Can you provide a specific URL where you notice this behavior and specific text areas where the voice changes? With this information we can try to see if we can reproduce the issue. By chance I'm wondering if the "indicate capitalization" option in Settings Center got changed. To verify this, 1: Ensure that Brave is open and that it is the active window. 2. Press insert-6 (on the numbers row) to open Settings Center. 3. Type "cap" without the quotes. 4. Arrow down to the "indicate capitalization" setting and ensure that it is set for "char (meaning character.) David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/16/2020 3:14 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
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Re: Jaws SMA
Tyler Wood
Hi David,
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In Canada, Who did you go through for this? It's been a while since I have had to go through this process so I'm not sure if the dealer has changed. The last time I called (I forget the specific one) I had to leave 4 messages, so I hope I can go direct through FS. Thanks
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165 for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH, yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either 12 or 6% on the $165. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount code. Are there any such codes available? On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote: > Here is the link, tom. > > https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > <https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *T. > Civitello > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find > it. Tom > > *From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > That’s why I did it through the web site. > > Richard > > "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject > of flying. > > There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies > in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." > > --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. > turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84 d%7C8 > 4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata =GAS > 0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0> > > *I’m not the card shark > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick > Mladek > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m > now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes... > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gerald > Levy via groups.io > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the > licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a > two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all > first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper > than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more. Another advantage of > the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal > with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote: > > > > There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license > edition won't go up as well. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io > <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do. They are deliberately > making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year > license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS > customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA > arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few > new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may > simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching > them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew > their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the > long run. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote: > > Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades. > > After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 > more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or > is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is > correct? > > Thanks, > > John Doering > > Pricing Analyst > > Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 > > Mobile: > > 445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 > > https://ibvi.org > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibv > i.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C49bccdebfe424c6350ff08d88a65634a%7C84d f9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637411515339672955%7CUnknown %7CTWFp > bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI 6Mn > 0%3D%7C1000&sdata=O7BsoNcpHVebexDW%2FwfH8kZmIslUOVhAenUvRDi4 qDQ%3D&res > erved=0> > > Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no > liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences > of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, > unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in > reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf > Of Bill White > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Re: Jaws SMA > > Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 > will be $210.00. > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On > Behalf Of Don H > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Jaws SMA > > Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember > correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I > am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good > until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that. > >
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Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability
Richard Turner
Yes Kevin, it is really me.Are you thinking I know you outside of this list, or just questioning the source?
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"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
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Re: Jaws SMA
David Diamond
When I renewed my SMA to get JAWS 21, earlier this month, it cost me $165 for the home edition for 2 years, I believe. It said I have 4 activations. OH, yes, living in Canada if I can provide my CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) #, it makes the purchase tax exempt. Which means no taxes, either 12 or 6% on the $165.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: November 16, 2020 3:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws SMA So I notice when checking out for the SMA there is a place to enter a discount code. Are there any such codes available? On 11/16/2020 1:53 PM, Bill White wrote: > Here is the link, tom. > > https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > <https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal > > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *T. > Civitello > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find > it. Tom > > *From:*Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@outlook.com> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > That’s why I did it through the web site. > > Richard > > "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject > of flying. > > There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies > in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." > > --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59 > > Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com > <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. > turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84 d%7C8 > 4df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata =GAS > 0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0> > > *I’m not the card shark > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rick > Mladek > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m > now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes... > > *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gerald > Levy via groups.io > *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM > *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA > > That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the > licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a > two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all > first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper > than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more. Another advantage of > the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal > with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote: > > > > There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license > edition won't go up as well. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*Gerald Levy via groups.io > <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io> > > *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > *Sent:*Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM > > *Subject:*Re: Jaws SMA > > No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do. They are deliberately > making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year > license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS > customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA > arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few > new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may > simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching > them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew > their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the > long run. > > Gerald > > On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote: > > Boy, that is a jump in price. That should be for 2 upgrades. > > After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 > more remaining upgrade. Should that be reporting correctly or > is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is > correct? > > Thanks, > > John Doering > > Pricing Analyst > > Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 > > Mobile: > > 445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 > > https://ibvi.org > > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibv > i.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C49bccdebfe424c6350ff08d88a65634a%7C84d f9e7f > e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637411515339672955%7CUnknown %7CTWFp > bGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI 6Mn > 0%3D%7C1000&sdata=O7BsoNcpHVebexDW%2FwfH8kZmIslUOVhAenUvRDi4 qDQ%3D&res > erved=0> > > Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no > liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences > of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, > unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that > disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in > reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf > Of Bill White > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Re: Jaws SMA > > Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 > will be $210.00. > > Bill White > > billwhite92701@dslextreme.com > <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>] On > Behalf Of Don H > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM > > To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > > Subject: Jaws SMA > > Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember > correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I > am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good > until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that. > >
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Re: Jaws SMA
David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
With the quality of the free NVDA screen reader being so good I can'timagine anyone paying $1000 for Jaws. I don't disagree that NVDA has now become a very high quality and capable screen reader. However, consumers in the U.S. who need a home license can purchase the home annual license for $90 a year. Also, JAWS possesses many features and capabilities which are not currently offered by NVDA, not to mention many different ways of configuring the screen reader not found in NVDA. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/16/2020 2:29 PM, Don H wrote: With the quality of the free NVDA screen reader being so good I can't imagine anyone paying $1000 for Jaws.
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Re: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability
kevin meyers
Richard is this really you?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Warning, political article link included, concerning Social Security for people with a disability
If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read this.
Richard "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying. There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
*I’m not the card shark
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Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser
T. Civitello
I will try to respond a piece at a time.
4. Arrow down to the "indicate
capitalization" setting and ensure that it is set for "char (meaning
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It is set to char. Also Ignore
during say all is checked. Tom
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave
browser Tom,
this isn't something I've encountered and I'm a regular user of Brave. What voice are you using? If Eloquence, are you using the Reed voice or one of the other variations? What parameters are you using, as in the settings for pitch and rate? Is this behavior consistent? In other words, if you perform a "say all" three times on the same page will it exhibit the same behavior on the same text all three times? Can you provide a specific URL where you notice this behavior and specific text areas where the voice changes? With this information we can try to see if we can reproduce the issue. By chance I'm wondering if the "indicate capitalization" option in Settings Center got changed. To verify this, 1: Ensure that Brave is open and that it is the active window. 2. Press insert-6 (on the numbers row) to open Settings Center. 3. Type "cap" without the quotes. 4. Arrow down to the "indicate capitalization" setting and ensure that it is set for "char (meaning character.) David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 11/16/2020 3:14 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
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ident first line of paragraph
kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using Jaws2020 and word 2016. I need to setup the entire file to indent the first line of each paragraph on its own. I went through the layout tab. I couldn’t find anything that would let me set the file to do it. Are there a string keys I can turn this on? Thanks, Kevin
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