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moderated Problem with Jaws 2021 and Brave browser

T. Civitello
 

I am having a problem with the "say all" command in the latest version 2021 of Jaws. Using the Brave Web browser, Random words are spoken with a rising pitch, like capitalized letters are. At times it occurs every few words and is very annoying. A friend looked at the screen an could not see any thing that would cause this. It doesn't happen with IE or Edge. Does anyone else have this problem or a cure.  Tom


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Tom Behler
 

Ok, thanks.

May have to go that route here too.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

No I sent them a Email because I could not see a way to purchase a SMA on their web site.

On 11/16/2020 1:12 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Don:

Did you get an official notice from Freedom Scientific about renewing your SMA with the new price increase?

I've yet to receive anything, and I usually receive something by now.

My SMA is due for renewal as well.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.













moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Here is the link, tom.

 

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find it.  Tom

 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

That’s why I did it through the web site.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA.  Almost all first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:



There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Jaws SMA renewal page

Richard Turner
 

Here is the  link to the SMA renewal page.

You will need to paste in your serial number.

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Products/UpgradeAndSMARenewal

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find it.  Tom

 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

That’s why I did it through the web site.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA.  Almost all first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:



There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: form fields in word

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi Brian,

 

Here it is. Apparently it has been updated over the years by many people. When I first opened this it was in protected mode. I was able to read it fine. When I switched to enable editing, I couldn’t read anything.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 16, 2020 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: form fields in word

 

Cynthia,

           Can you send me a blank copy of the document?  It is impossible to advise accurately unless I actually know what it is that you're dealing with.  It's definitely not a typical fillable form based on what you've said.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

T. Civitello
 

Could you provide a link to the FS sma renewal page? I couldn’t find it.  Tom
 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 

That’s why I did it through the web site.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA.  Almost all first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:



There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Office 365

Richard Turner
 

Good question.

I’ve not heard great things about Jaws and Microsoft 2019, so I have not really looked into it.

I also haven’t bothered to call Microsoft and ask.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:04 AM
To: access-uk@...
Cc: JAWS <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Office 365

 

Hi All,

A question about office 365 version number.

My word and outlook apps and so on is 2016, when there are updates, why don’t my apps get updated to 2019?

Is there a way to get them updated to 2019?

 

Andrew


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Don H
 

No I sent them a Email because I could not see a way to purchase a SMA on their web site.

On 11/16/2020 1:12 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Don:
Did you get an official notice from Freedom Scientific about renewing your SMA with the new price increase?
I've yet to receive anything, and I usually receive something by now.
My SMA is due for renewal as well.
Tom Behler
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Don H
 

With the quality of the free NVDA screen reader being so good I can't imagine anyone paying $1000 for Jaws.

On 11/16/2020 1:16 PM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:
That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA. Almost all first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers.
Gerald
On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:

There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Gerald Levy via groups.io <mailto:bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws SMA


No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse. But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.


Gerald




On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?

Thanks,



John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From:main@jfw.groups.io  <main@jfw.groups.io>  On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From:main@jfw.groups.io  [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To:main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.



















moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Richard Turner
 

That’s why I did it through the web site.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA.  Almost all first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:



There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Rick Mladek
 

Have you tried getting through to purchase a new SMA these days? I’m now on hold and have been for near past 30-minutes...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA.  Almost all first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:



There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Van Lant, Robin
 

I was curious, so I just looked back and saw that I paid $200 for a 2 upgrade SMA at the end of 2018 for the Professional version. Now my cost is $300.  Even if JAWS doesn’t come out with new features that often, I still want to maintain current licenses for compatibility with the newest versions of Windows, Office, Chrome, etc.  I’ve been paying for the  SMA myself, since it’s easier than dealing with the drawn out procurement process at my company and I want to use JAWS at home, too.  Maybe I’ll see if my manager will let me expense part of the cost as a business expense to offset the home versus professional difference.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Gerald Levy
 


That's true, but if FS wants to migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement, they will probably still keep the price of a two-year license ower than the price for a two-update SMA.  Almost all first-time JAWS users now purchase a license because it is far cheaper than purchasing JAWS outright for $1000 or more.  Another advantage of the license arrangement is that there is no activation code to deal with like with an SMA, which makes life easier for both FS and its customers. 


Gerald



On 11/16/2020 1:42 PM, Loy wrote:

There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA


No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.


Gerald




On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?

Thanks,



John Doering 
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Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.




















moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Richard Turner
 

They would be Freedom Scientific.



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Who is "they"?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Tom Behler
 

Don:

Did you get an official notice from Freedom Scientific about renewing your SMA with the new price increase?

I've yet to receive anything, and I usually receive something by now.

My SMA is due for renewal as well.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

Who is "they"?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I
purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the
cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know
what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: canvas accessibility

Vaughn Brown
 

I use Canvas and never had issues with filling out evaluations or sending messages from the Dashboard. I find Canvas to be quite accessible in all my courses and quizzes. Sorry to hear you are having such a touch time. What online program are you using? I use Chrome.

 

Vaughn

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: canvas accesssibility

 

 

This is only partly true in my opinion.

  1. It seems impossible to get anything meaningful out of the Calendar page – even if using the recommended  Agenda view for accessibility. I don’t know if this is the fault of the Tutors but it is pretty baffling to interpret with a screenreader with only unattributed numbers being announced.
  2. 2. Ihave never found the Quizzes fully accessible. Check boxes are not announced in the version I have tried show it is impossible to tell what they relate to without sight.
  3. I have never on the courses I have been on been able to complete a session evaluation form. There seems no way to focus into an edit box for feedback with a screenreader.
  4. Similarly I have never been able to complete an end course evaluation for similar reasons. It seems impossible to focus into edit boxes in able to submit comments.
  5. Whilst it is relatively easy to respond to Tutor initiated discussion I have never been able to initiate messages. With the screenreaders I use at least this is an extremely clunky process where you have to assign message receivers from drop down buttons  which seem very hard to manage with a Screenreader. Whilst I can sometimes get into a list containing the names of students and course tutors I have found no way of selecting these so that I can actually send a message.
  6. There may be work arounds for all this but I have been using screenreaders since 1999 and I  certainly do not find these parts of the site straightforward or easy.

David G.

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From: Shai
Sent: 15 November 2020 22:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: canvas accesssibility

 

Hello Paul,

Yes Canvas itself is accessible with JAWS2020. I have not tried it

with JAWS2021 yet so I can't comment there.

 

 

On 11/15/20, Paul Faucheux <pf112781@...> wrote:

> hi this is paul faucheux. is canvas accessible with jaws 2020 or 2021. i am

> going to be taking information communications  technology  courses at north

> shore technical community college. i previously went there from january 3

> 2008 to march 21 2011. during that time they used blackboard for course

> materials  and accessing assignments as well as submitting assignments

> please let me know  if it is accessible and if not what should i do or say

> to instructors and people at at the school. i will be taking the classes at

> there hammond louisiana campus. please email  me at pf112781@... or

> call me at 985-370-2072.

>

 

 

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moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


There is no garantee that the price of the annual home license edition won't go up as well.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA


No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.


Gerald




On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:
Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?

Thanks,



John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.




















moderated Can't write email messages using Thunderbird in Grade 2 braille

ann
 

Hi folks,


I'm running latest Windows10 with Jaws2021 and Thunderbird as my default email client. I originally thought this was an Orbit Reader 20 Plus problem. But I just found out it happens when using an APH Refreshabraille 18 display as well. I have my braille settings set for input and  output of Grade 2 braille. When inputting text there is no problem. But when I press the Dot 8 to go to a new line, the display moves to the new line. However, the minute I start to type anything at all, the text is placed back at the top of my email messages. In essence, I'm writing the messages in reverse.


This also happened in Jaws2020.


I'm sorry I blamed my Orbit Reader for this issue. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, like maybe how to fix it?


Thanks for any advice,

~Ann


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

John Doering
 

Makes sense for FS.

 

Thanks,

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA

 

 

No, it's obvious what FS is trying to do.  They are deliberately making a two-upgrade SMA more expensive for $210 than a two-year license for $180,because they want to gradually migrate all JAWS customers to the licensing arrangement and eliminate the SMA arrangement altogether. Now that JAWS has reached a plateau and few new features can be expected in the future, many JAWS users may simply decide to let their SMA's lapse.  But by gradually switching them to the licensing arrangement, JAWS users will have to renew their licenses annually which would be more profitable for FS in the long run.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

On 11/16/2020 12:33 PM, John Doering wrote:

Boy, that is a jump in price.  That should be for 2 upgrades.
After updating to 2021, I checked and JAWS indicates I have 1 more remaining upgrade.  Should that be reporting correctly or is there something to do to make sure that field in "About" is correct?
 
Thanks,
 
 
 
John Doering 
Pricing Analyst 
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063 
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214 
https://ibvi.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws SMA
 
Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.
 
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA
 
Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021.  If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago.  Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1.  Don't know what the price will be after that.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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