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moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Don. They told me the price of a new SMA after January 1 will be $210.00.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I
purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the
cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know
what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: Jaws SMA

Richard Turner
 

Yes, the price went up.
It is still cheaper than the "license' model for the US, which is $90 per year, or $180 for two years.
I just went ahead and bought the new SMA so I am good through 2023.



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws SMA

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: form fields in word

 

Cynthia,

           Are you being tasked with looking at forms that others have already filled out?  If so, you might want to consider converting the whole form to "straight MS-Word document" format, even if just for the purpose of reading, and not saving the result if it must remain as a fillable form.  If it does not need to remain that way after you've received it for processing, and you may need to refer to it later, I'd save the "converted to normal MS-Word document" version for filing purposes.

            When dealing with fillable Word forms as the person filling them out, unless you have your screen reader echoing character-by-character as you type, you will hear nothing as you fill out a form field.  This is a quirk of how these are processed by Word.  You've got to complete the filling in, tab to the next field/checkbox/whatever, then Shift+TAB back to get your text that you filled in read.

----------------------------------
What follows presumes the designer of the fillable form did what they should have and imposed editing restrictions such that the original recipient was only able to traverse the fillable parts and interact with them.  Also that they did not password protect these settings as well, otherwise you'd have to know the password to complete the removal of editing restrictions.

Unprotecting All Word Form Fields and Converting Them to Regular Text

1.       You must first remove the restricted editing settings that allow you only to fill out the form

a.       Activate the Developer Tab, Restrict Editing.  ALT+L,PE

b.       Activate the Stop Protection button, which is the only button.  Just Hit Enter

c.       Close the Restrict Editing pane.  CTRL+Spacebar,C

2.       Select all content in the document.  CTRL+A

3.       Issue the command to convert all form fields to regular Word text.  CTRL+SHIFT+F9

At this point all form fields will be straight text like the rest of the document, and can be edited just as you usually would.  You cannot reverse this action, so be certain you have filled out anything that needs to have been filled out before going through the above steps.

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moderated Jaws SMA

Don H
 

Well I used my last SMA to upgrade to 2021. If I remember correctly I purchased my last SMA for $120 two years ago. Now I am told that the cost will be $150 and that price is only good until Jan 1. Don't know what the price will be after that.


moderated Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

CJ &AA MAY
 

Thanks Kevin. I’ll definitely try this out.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: 16 November 2020 16:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Hi.

 

Unless you want to use the headphones for something else, just powering them off will disconnect Bluetooth, rather than unpairing things so you have to go through the pairing process again.

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Thanks for this. I will try this out.

When I have finished the session using the Bluetooth headphones, will disconnecting the headphones be sufficient for returning to normal mode?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: 05 November 2020 19:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Hi Alison.

 

I’m using Windows 10, so my instructions are for that.

 

First, hit the WINDOWS key. This should put you in the search area where you can type something.

 

Now start typing BLUETOOTH. You’ll get something like Bluetooth and other devices. Hit ENTER on that.

 

You’ll be where an option is add Bluetooth device. That’s what you want. You might also have to turn Bluetooth on. In this area, TAB is your friend.

 

I think once you select ADD Bluetooth device, you may have to select Bluetooth again.

 

Now put your Bluetooth headphones in pairing mode. TAB around this screen for a list of Bluetooth devices. Look for your headphones, and hit ENTER on them. If all goes well, they’ll be connected. Be warned, however. Once paired, all your sounds will go through the phones, and unless you specifically set JAWS for another sound card, your speech will also go through the headphones, and you might think you lost speech.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

It sounds like a good speaker.

Wonder if you can help as you are obviously used to pairing.

I belong to a Rock Chir which is currently having to meet via Zoom. So everyone doesn’t hear Jaws nattering on, I am using headphones, but doing so is quite restrictive as some of the songs have moves.

Blue tooth headphones would obviously be the answer and I do have some which I use with my iPhone.

I’ve no idea how to pair them with a desktop computer however. Any clues on how to go about this please?

Alison.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: 04 November 2020 22:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Hi all.

 

I’ve finally found a Bluetooth speaker that doesn’t suffer from the dreaded cutting off the start of speech with JAWS.  It’s the Tribit Soundmax Plus Bluetooth speaker. I might have that backwards, but if you look for it on Amazon, you’ll find it. It has 24 watts of sound, is stereo, and uses a micro USB cable for charging. The buttons have tactile markings, so it’s easy to figure out.  It claims to have 20 hours of battery life, and the advertising says it has a range of up to 100 feet. I just got it, so I can’t say much about how well it works yet. The thing that I’m very happy about is it doesn’t chop off the beginning of JAWS when it starts. I think it’s mainly made for devices like smart phones, but it paired with my Windows 10 laptop with no problem. Oh yeah, it’s waterproof, so some rain won’t hurt it.

 

I ordered it from Amazon, and with Prime it costs around $60, taxes included.

 

That’s all from me. Right now it’s charging, but I used it plugged in with no problem, but I don’t know what that would mean for the battery. Tonight I’m going to start music on this laptop, and instead of moving the computer to my bedroom, the new speaker will be used, and it will be really nice to have a lower volume than what the lower quality internal speakers produce. I know, I could just lower their volume in sound settings, but what can I say, I’m lazy.

 

Just letting you know.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie


moderated form fields in word

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi All,

 

I am using the most recent version of MS Word and JAWS 2020. My department has created what seem to be forms in word, and I keep running into trouble with them. I can read the first few lines, but then it gets hung up when I get to a form field with a lot of information. It just stops reading.

 

Any ideas about what might be going on?

 

Thanks,

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Van Lant, Robin
 

I taped a thick index card over my touchpad because I have sighted members of the family who also need to occasionally use my laptop. It’s not ideal, but it keeps me from generally bumping  the touchpad and still leaves it easy to access as needed.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

 

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 03:51 PM, Mark Arnold ABG wrote:

Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

-
Mark,

           My recommendation of over a decade not to every one of the clients I've tutored is NOT to disable the mousepad, because having real left and right click hard buttons is just so useful, but to mask off the "thumbpad" area that causes the mouse pointer to move.  I have most commonly done this using a piece of cardboard of the thickness you typically find on the back of a notepad, cut to the necessary size, taped down on the left like that side is a book spine and on the right with a smaller tape tab, that can be easily lifted if desired to expose the "thumbpad" area for sighted assistants.

            It is just so handy to have real left and right click rather than using screen reader emulation to achieve same, and you can get that while easily preventing the issue you describe by masking off the area responsible for pointer movement.
 
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moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Madison Martin
 

Windows 10 version 1909

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November 16, 2020 1:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

No offense, but maybe you are not doing something the way it is explained. If
you have Jaws installed on your computer and are using Windows 10 the
Shell:AppsFolder command will definitely show you a list which contains Jaws.
Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7? Don't think you said and I don't recall
if anybody asked.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

The issue with that is that Jaws isn't on that list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hey there, Madison, BZ here again, grin! There's another way to do this in
windows ten. 1. Hit windows key plus r which will bring up the run dialog.
2. Type shell:appsfolder and then press enter. This will bring up a list of
all your applications. Down arrow until you hear jaws and then hit your
applications key and go down until you hear create shortcut and then press
enter. You'll get a message that will say something like do you want windows to
create a shortcut anyway and then press enter. I'm doing the message off the
top of my head so that's not the verbatim message you'll hear but this method
will create the jaws item on your desktop. If you're not comfortable doing this
and you need assistance, just let me know and I'll be happy to help you. BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison








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moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Richard Turner
 

I find that leaving UI checked works fine.

If you look instead for the footnote setting, and make sure it is checked for On, for me, Jaws reads the foottnote as I read the document.

Here is what Jaws says about the UI setting:

Use UIA for Word 365 Documents checked‑
General Options Word Settings
Since Office 2013, JAWS has started to rely on UI Automation (UIA) provided by Microsoft, in order to provide the most robust solution for documents in Office.
Microsoft is making significant changes in UIA in the ongoing development of Office 365 and this control, when unchecked, gives users an opportunity to rely only on the Document Object Model rather than UIA. This could be useful for users who are using Office 365 and run into any issues that might have been introduced by recent changes in UIA.
Restart Word after changing this setting for your changes to take effect.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Re: Jaws command question

Dave Durber
 

Ceigard:

Instead of pressing JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by S, then pressing JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by SHIFT+S, to silence speech altogether, the process would be simpler, if it was, JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by SHIFT+S.

----- Original Message ----- Dave


From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws command question


Actually, you have to be on speech on demand and then press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S and you then hear "Speech off set to speech mute".
At that point Jaws is completely muted and Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S will restore ful lspeech.
I was almost certain earlier when I tried this Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S worked directly, but now I am also getting the message "not available in full speech mode" and I have to first go to speech on demand before I can use the layered keystroke with Shift + S to fully mute Jaws.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure, this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your jaws version works quite well.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s) just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

Unless you want to use the headphones for something else, just powering them off will disconnect Bluetooth, rather than unpairing things so you have to go through the pairing process again.

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Thanks for this. I will try this out.

When I have finished the session using the Bluetooth headphones, will disconnecting the headphones be sufficient for returning to normal mode?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: 05 November 2020 19:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Hi Alison.

 

I’m using Windows 10, so my instructions are for that.

 

First, hit the WINDOWS key. This should put you in the search area where you can type something.

 

Now start typing BLUETOOTH. You’ll get something like Bluetooth and other devices. Hit ENTER on that.

 

You’ll be where an option is add Bluetooth device. That’s what you want. You might also have to turn Bluetooth on. In this area, TAB is your friend.

 

I think once you select ADD Bluetooth device, you may have to select Bluetooth again.

 

Now put your Bluetooth headphones in pairing mode. TAB around this screen for a list of Bluetooth devices. Look for your headphones, and hit ENTER on them. If all goes well, they’ll be connected. Be warned, however. Once paired, all your sounds will go through the phones, and unless you specifically set JAWS for another sound card, your speech will also go through the headphones, and you might think you lost speech.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

It sounds like a good speaker.

Wonder if you can help as you are obviously used to pairing.

I belong to a Rock Chir which is currently having to meet via Zoom. So everyone doesn’t hear Jaws nattering on, I am using headphones, but doing so is quite restrictive as some of the songs have moves.

Blue tooth headphones would obviously be the answer and I do have some which I use with my iPhone.

I’ve no idea how to pair them with a desktop computer however. Any clues on how to go about this please?

Alison.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: 04 November 2020 22:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Hi all.

 

I’ve finally found a Bluetooth speaker that doesn’t suffer from the dreaded cutting off the start of speech with JAWS.  It’s the Tribit Soundmax Plus Bluetooth speaker. I might have that backwards, but if you look for it on Amazon, you’ll find it. It has 24 watts of sound, is stereo, and uses a micro USB cable for charging. The buttons have tactile markings, so it’s easy to figure out.  It claims to have 20 hours of battery life, and the advertising says it has a range of up to 100 feet. I just got it, so I can’t say much about how well it works yet. The thing that I’m very happy about is it doesn’t chop off the beginning of JAWS when it starts. I think it’s mainly made for devices like smart phones, but it paired with my Windows 10 laptop with no problem. Oh yeah, it’s waterproof, so some rain won’t hurt it.

 

I ordered it from Amazon, and with Prime it costs around $60, taxes included.

 

That’s all from me. Right now it’s charging, but I used it plugged in with no problem, but I don’t know what that would mean for the battery. Tonight I’m going to start music on this laptop, and instead of moving the computer to my bedroom, the new speaker will be used, and it will be really nice to have a lower volume than what the lower quality internal speakers produce. I know, I could just lower their volume in sound settings, but what can I say, I’m lazy.

 

Just letting you know.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie


moderated Re: Jaws command question

Dave Durber
 

Madison:

There are many ways in Windows 10 to achieve what you are trying to accomplish. Below is the method I use to create a new shortcut for JAWS, should my existing JAWS shortcut should be deleted by me or, removed by Windows.

1. Highlight the line of text below and copy it to the Clipboard:

C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2018

This is the path statement, which will take you directly to the folder where the JAWS.EXE file for JAWS 18 is located.

2. Press WINDOWS KEY+R, to open the "Run" dialogue box. In the edit field, paste the text from the Clipboard, and press ENTER. Windows opens the new location. JAWS will speak the entire path statement to where the jfw.exe, is located.

3. Type"jfw" (without the quotes). JAWS will say, "jfw.exe".

4. Either, tap the Applications key, the key to the left of the right CTRL key or, press SHIFT+F10, to open the "Context Menue".

5. Tap the DOWN ARRO key, until the "Send To" submenue is highlighted, and tap the RIGHT ARROW KEY, TO OPEN IT or, press the letter "N" (without the quotes), to perform both steps at once. JAWS will say "Bluetooth device", which is the first item in the "Send To" submenue.

5. Either tap the DOWN ARROW KEY, until "Desktop (Creat shortcut)" is highlighted or, Tap the letter "d" (without the quotes), which will immediately highlight the item.

6. Press ENTER, and the new shortcut will appear on the Desktop.

7. Tap the letter "J", to highlight the newly created shortcut. JAWS will say "jfw.exe - shortcut".

8. Tap the F2 KEY, to open the edit field to edit the new shortcut.

9. Tap the DELETE KEY, to remove the existing text.

10. Type "JAWS 2018", and press ENTER, to accept the new shortcut for JAWS.

11. To add a shortcut key for JAWS, Press ALT+ENTER, to open the properties for the JAWS shordcut.

12. Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "Shortcut key: Hot key".

13. Tap the letter "J" (without the quotes. The CTRL and alt keys, are added by default. If you want to use a different keystroke shortcut, for example, CTRL+SHIFT+J, you would need to enter the keystroke combination manually.

HTH

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:03 AM
Subject: Jaws command question


Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't hear
the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4. Well after
the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt j, but it
didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the command set, so
I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any other way I can turn
Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille display doesn't work
either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't even know where I am. I
hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to turn it
on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions anyone can
provide!! Thanks
Madison





moderated Re: canvas accesssibility

David Griffith
 

 

This is only partly true in my opinion.

  1. It seems impossible to get anything meaningful out of the Calendar page – even if using the recommended  Agenda view for accessibility. I don’t know if this is the fault of the Tutors but it is pretty baffling to interpret with a screenreader with only unattributed numbers being announced.
  2. 2. Ihave never found the Quizzes fully accessible. Check boxes are not announced in the version I have tried show it is impossible to tell what they relate to without sight.
  3. I have never on the courses I have been on been able to complete a session evaluation form. There seems no way to focus into an edit box for feedback with a screenreader.
  4. Similarly I have never been able to complete an end course evaluation for similar reasons. It seems impossible to focus into edit boxes in able to submit comments.
  5. Whilst it is relatively easy to respond to Tutor initiated discussion I have never been able to initiate messages. With the screenreaders I use at least this is an extremely clunky process where you have to assign message receivers from drop down buttons  which seem very hard to manage with a Screenreader. Whilst I can sometimes get into a list containing the names of students and course tutors I have found no way of selecting these so that I can actually send a message.
  6. There may be work arounds for all this but I have been using screenreaders since 1999 and I  certainly do not find these parts of the site straightforward or easy.

David G.

Sent fro
m Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shai
Sent: 15 November 2020 22:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: canvas accesssibility

 

Hello Paul,

Yes Canvas itself is accessible with JAWS2020. I have not tried it

with JAWS2021 yet so I can't comment there.

 

 

On 11/15/20, Paul Faucheux <pf112781@...> wrote:

> hi this is paul faucheux. is canvas accessible with jaws 2020 or 2021. i am

> going to be taking information communications  technology  courses at north

> shore technical community college. i previously went there from january 3

> 2008 to march 21 2011. during that time they used blackboard for course

> materials  and accessing assignments as well as submitting assignments

> please let me know  if it is accessible and if not what should i do or say

> to instructors and people at at the school. i will be taking the classes at

> there hammond louisiana campus. please email  me at pf112781@... or

> call me at 985-370-2072.

>

 

 

--

Shai Wolman

Wolman technologies

(619)894-6587

Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be

productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing

tasks.

atvistech@...

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

CJ &AA MAY
 

Thanks for this. I will try this out.

When I have finished the session using the Bluetooth headphones, will disconnecting the headphones be sufficient for returning to normal mode?

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: 05 November 2020 19:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Hi Alison.

 

I’m using Windows 10, so my instructions are for that.

 

First, hit the WINDOWS key. This should put you in the search area where you can type something.

 

Now start typing BLUETOOTH. You’ll get something like Bluetooth and other devices. Hit ENTER on that.

 

You’ll be where an option is add Bluetooth device. That’s what you want. You might also have to turn Bluetooth on. In this area, TAB is your friend.

 

I think once you select ADD Bluetooth device, you may have to select Bluetooth again.

 

Now put your Bluetooth headphones in pairing mode. TAB around this screen for a list of Bluetooth devices. Look for your headphones, and hit ENTER on them. If all goes well, they’ll be connected. Be warned, however. Once paired, all your sounds will go through the phones, and unless you specifically set JAWS for another sound card, your speech will also go through the headphones, and you might think you lost speech.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

It sounds like a good speaker.

Wonder if you can help as you are obviously used to pairing.

I belong to a Rock Chir which is currently having to meet via Zoom. So everyone doesn’t hear Jaws nattering on, I am using headphones, but doing so is quite restrictive as some of the songs have moves.

Blue tooth headphones would obviously be the answer and I do have some which I use with my iPhone.

I’ve no idea how to pair them with a desktop computer however. Any clues on how to go about this please?

Alison.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: 04 November 2020 22:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I just got a Bluetooth speaker that works great with Windows 10 and JAWS 2020

 

Hi all.

 

I’ve finally found a Bluetooth speaker that doesn’t suffer from the dreaded cutting off the start of speech with JAWS.  It’s the Tribit Soundmax Plus Bluetooth speaker. I might have that backwards, but if you look for it on Amazon, you’ll find it. It has 24 watts of sound, is stereo, and uses a micro USB cable for charging. The buttons have tactile markings, so it’s easy to figure out.  It claims to have 20 hours of battery life, and the advertising says it has a range of up to 100 feet. I just got it, so I can’t say much about how well it works yet. The thing that I’m very happy about is it doesn’t chop off the beginning of JAWS when it starts. I think it’s mainly made for devices like smart phones, but it paired with my Windows 10 laptop with no problem. Oh yeah, it’s waterproof, so some rain won’t hurt it.

 

I ordered it from Amazon, and with Prime it costs around $60, taxes included.

 

That’s all from me. Right now it’s charging, but I used it plugged in with no problem, but I don’t know what that would mean for the battery. Tonight I’m going to start music on this laptop, and instead of moving the computer to my bedroom, the new speaker will be used, and it will be really nice to have a lower volume than what the lower quality internal speakers produce. I know, I could just lower their volume in sound settings, but what can I say, I’m lazy.

 

Just letting you know.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie


moderated Re: questions about jaws versions

Deb and the girls
 

I will.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about jaws versions

 

While you may hear a listing twice, you cannot have two versions of the same jaws version unless something got corrupted.Did you look at the folders on your c drive in the Program Data folder?

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:24 AM, Deb and the girls <debsoundandscent@...> wrote:

In the list of default programs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about jaws versions

Why do you think you have 2 versions of Jaws 2020, where do you see this?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Deb and the girls
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: questions about jaws versions

       I seem to have two jaws 20 versions loaded on my laptop.  I
just deleted jaws 18 and 19 from my laptop successfully.  If I deleted the
earlier version of jaws 20, would the other one disappear as well?  Please
respond asap!
debsoundandscent@...
Thanks
Deb Ver Steeg

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Actually, you have to be on speech on demand and then press Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S and you then hear "Speech off set to speech
mute".
At that point Jaws is completely muted and Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S
will restore ful lspeech.
I was almost certain earlier when I tried this Jaws Key + Spacebar followed
by Shift + S worked directly, but now I am also getting the message "not
available in full speech mode" and I have to first go to speech on demand
before I can use the layered keystroke with Shift + S to fully mute Jaws.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full
speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something
braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still
some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination
Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar
followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up
the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you
set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key‑
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but
as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer
Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination
than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it
it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed
the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and
type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a
space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure,
this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is
the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and
enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of
the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press
enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a
problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application
files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which
version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you
only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly
by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and
typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent
unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say
full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where
none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your
jaws version works quite well.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
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learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s)
just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching
as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have
any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the
shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you
want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope
this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't
hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt
j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the
command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any
other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille
display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't
even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to
turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions
anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison





















































moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Dave Durber
 

Chris:

The short cut keystroke to open the properties for any file or folder is ALT+ENTER.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@earthlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop


If it isn't on the desktop, the shortcut key likely won't work. To create the shortcut do the following.

hit windows+r and type shell:appsfolder and press enter


Now, find your version of jaws, hit the applications key and choose create shortcut. windows will complain and ask if you would like to put the shortcut on the desktop instead. Do that and you're done. You can right click on your new shortcut and choose properties, in there you will find where to put the shortcut key. When you're in the edit box, hit the key combination you want and then tab to okay.


Hope this helps.


CH



On 11/15/2020 12:54, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison







moderated Re: questions about jaws versions

Richard Turner
 

While you may hear a listing twice, you cannot have two versions of the same jaws version unless something got corrupted.Did you look at the folders on your c drive in the Program Data folder?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:24 AM, Deb and the girls <debsoundandscent@...> wrote:

In the list of default programs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about jaws versions

Why do you think you have 2 versions of Jaws 2020, where do you see this?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Deb and the girls
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: questions about jaws versions

       I seem to have two jaws 20 versions loaded on my laptop.  I
just deleted jaws 18 and 19 from my laptop successfully.  If I deleted the
earlier version of jaws 20, would the other one disappear as well?  Please
respond asap!
debsoundandscent@...
Thanks
Deb Ver Steeg

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Actually, you have to be on speech on demand and then press Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S and you then hear "Speech off set to speech
mute".
At that point Jaws is completely muted and Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S
will restore ful lspeech.
I was almost certain earlier when I tried this Jaws Key + Spacebar followed
by Shift + S worked directly, but now I am also getting the message "not
available in full speech mode" and I have to first go to speech on demand
before I can use the layered keystroke with Shift + S to fully mute Jaws.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full
speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something
braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still
some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination
Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar
followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up
the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you
set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but
as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer
Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination
than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it
it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed
the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and
type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a
space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure,
this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is
the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and
enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of
the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press
enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a
problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application
files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which
version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you
only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly
by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and
typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent
unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say
full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where
none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your
jaws version works quite well.



Richard
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flying.
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s)
just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching
as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have
any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the
shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you
want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope
this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't
hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt
j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the
command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any
other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille
display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't
even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to
turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions
anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison






















































moderated Re: questions about jaws versions

Deb and the girls
 

In the list of default programs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about jaws versions

Why do you think you have 2 versions of Jaws 2020, where do you see this?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Deb and the girls
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: questions about jaws versions

I seem to have two jaws 20 versions loaded on my laptop. I
just deleted jaws 18 and 19 from my laptop successfully. If I deleted the
earlier version of jaws 20, would the other one disappear as well? Please
respond asap!
debsoundandscent@earthlink.net
Thanks
Deb Ver Steeg

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Actually, you have to be on speech on demand and then press Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S and you then hear "Speech off set to speech
mute".
At that point Jaws is completely muted and Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S
will restore ful lspeech.
I was almost certain earlier when I tried this Jaws Key + Spacebar followed
by Shift + S worked directly, but now I am also getting the message "not
available in full speech mode" and I have to first go to speech on demand
before I can use the layered keystroke with Shift + S to fully mute Jaws.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full
speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something
braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still
some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination
Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar
followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up
the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you
set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but
as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer
Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination
than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it
it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed
the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and
type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a
space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure,
this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is
the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and
enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of
the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press
enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a
problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application
files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which
version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you
only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly
by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and
typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent
unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say
full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where
none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your
jaws version works quite well.



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s)
just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching
as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have
any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the
shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you
want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope
this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't
hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt
j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the
command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any
other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille
display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't
even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to
turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions
anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Justin,

I am outside word now, but while in word after hitting insert-v I simply type ui on the search box and I get it. Have not explored the actual category, but let me know if you are having difficulty, and will have a look.

                                                            Take care,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

What category is it under?

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Richard/all,

Kevin may have had an option called “ui” something checked, which is located in the word options of jaws. I think it’s related to office use only, but I am not sure. I found that, while that was checked, footnote numbers did not show up in text, though speech might well have read them, I usually work with a braille display, so it was absolutely essential for me to have the footnote numbers showing. Once I unchecked that box, note numbers came back as usual.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.

The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.

I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.

 

Richard

 

 

Software means never having to say you're finished 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Have you unchecked the "uig" I think checkbox within word jaws settings?
Kindest regards, Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

I have trouble getting JAWS to read footnotes. I think they read best in
draft view.
At 03:54 PM 11/15/2020, you wrote:

I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn't do anything. I then
pressed jaws key o and v. That didn't do anything. When Jaws reads your
text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis
Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document



Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings
with jawskey0v and search for "ui" this is uig or something and relates
to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are
set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

Hope this
helps,

Takis



From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin
meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document



Hi, I'm using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016.
When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so
footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know
when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn't
know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always
look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a
book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What
about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin



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