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moderated Re: Use of Headings, or Rather Lack Thereof, in Groups.IO Discussion Lists

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Well, groups.io does use layout tables, so perhaps try turning off ignoring of layout tables in your screen reader and see if that works for you.. If not, I could see creating a javascript applet that might help if more than just you are interested. On Macintosh with VoiceOver, I can tell VoiceOver to interact with tables on the groups.io pages and then use next row twice to switch from message to message.
   

On Nov 15, 2020, at 16:56, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have come to really value the various Groups.IO lists related to accessibility, including this one. However, one thing that has always irked me is how clunky and inefficient navigation is on the web pages where you access discussion strings on individual topics. Other than a single level 4 heading just above the initial question, there is no use of headings for replies. Appropriate use of headings here would significantly enable more efficient navigation by screen reader users.

 

Previously, I had a few workarounds on web pages for reading through discussions. If using Edge, I could put it in immersive reader view and that helped. But with the newest version of Windows 10, immersive reader seems to have disappeared for some pages and remained for others. I even figured out that I could search for the number sign with Control F and then F3 to get to the top of each response because each one used to start with a message number, but no longer. So now, I am stuck endlessly down arrowing through the discussions. This is a very inefficient way to navigate web pages.

 

I emailed the Groups. IO tech support people with this concern several months ago and they never responded. Because I had figured out some personal workarounds, and this is a free service, so I suppose you get what you pay for, I never made a second attempt to contact them. But my workarounds no longer work, and navigation is very tedious.

 

I am sure that those who run Groups.IO are people of goodwill. I imagine too that they are unaware that well-placed insertion of headings greatly facilitates navigation by screen reader users.

 

So, a couple of questions. Should list administrators contact the Groups.IO developers with this concern to ask that they make better use of headings on the web pages? Or if others on this list agree that better use of headings would greatly improve our ability to use Groups.IO more efficiently, is there a way we can advocate as a group, versus sending the occasional solitary email complaint that ultimately goes unanswered?

 

Ideally, on the web pages, each original question and the responses would be tagged with a heading. On the daily digest, “New topics” and “new replies” would both have headings. However, adding headings to the web pages is the biggest priority.

 

I want to emphasize that I wouldn’t expend time on this if I didn’t value the service. It is an excellent resource. But that doesn’t mean there is no room for improvement.

 

Thanks to all who support asking that they do something about this. Also, sorry in advance for any inconvenience to you because I am sending this message to several lists, so you may see some repetition.

 

Regards,

David



moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Madison Martin
 

The issue with that is that Jaws isn't on that list.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hey there, Madison, BZ here again, grin! There's another way to do this in
windows ten. 1. Hit windows key plus r which will bring up the run dialog.
2. Type shell:appsfolder and then press enter. This will bring up a list of
all your applications. Down arrow until you hear jaws and then hit your
applications key and go down until you hear create shortcut and then press
enter. You'll get a message that will say something like do you want windows to
create a shortcut anyway and then press enter. I'm doing the message off the
top of my head so that's not the verbatim message you'll hear but this method
will create the jaws item on your desktop. If you're not comfortable doing this
and you need assistance, just let me know and
I'll be happy to help you. BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison








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moderated Re: Use of Headings, or Rather Lack Thereof, in Groups.IO Discussion Lists

 

David,

           I have just updated my tutorial, Searching the JAWS Group Archive, most of which is applicable to browsing and reading the regular Topics page for any given Groups.io group as well.

           I don't know why the table format that Groups.io has started to use is not working correctly with NVDA (and possibly JAWS) under Firefox, but it is working consistently under any Chromium-based browser I've used.  See if that helps out at all.

           As far as Groups.io "higher ups," though the service is seemingly huge, the development team is anything but.  Contacting them with your concerns via support@groups.io is the one and only mechanism I know of.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

Richard Turner
 

He meant just jawsKey plus v.
The main thing is looking at the footnote options to have it read.
I'm not at my computer right now to check the exact wording.


Richard


Software means never having to say you're finished 


On Nov 15, 2020, at 1:54 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Use of Headings, or Rather Lack Thereof, in Groups.IO Discussion Lists

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

I have come to really value the various Groups.IO lists related to accessibility, including this one. However, one thing that has always irked me is how clunky and inefficient navigation is on the web pages where you access discussion strings on individual topics. Other than a single level 4 heading just above the initial question, there is no use of headings for replies. Appropriate use of headings here would significantly enable more efficient navigation by screen reader users.

 

Previously, I had a few workarounds on web pages for reading through discussions. If using Edge, I could put it in immersive reader view and that helped. But with the newest version of Windows 10, immersive reader seems to have disappeared for some pages and remained for others. I even figured out that I could search for the number sign with Control F and then F3 to get to the top of each response because each one used to start with a message number, but no longer. So now, I am stuck endlessly down arrowing through the discussions. This is a very inefficient way to navigate web pages.

 

I emailed the Groups. IO tech support people with this concern several months ago and they never responded. Because I had figured out some personal workarounds, and this is a free service, so I suppose you get what you pay for, I never made a second attempt to contact them. But my workarounds no longer work, and navigation is very tedious.

 

I am sure that those who run Groups.IO are people of goodwill. I imagine too that they are unaware that well-placed insertion of headings greatly facilitates navigation by screen reader users.

 

So, a couple of questions. Should list administrators contact the Groups.IO developers with this concern to ask that they make better use of headings on the web pages? Or if others on this list agree that better use of headings would greatly improve our ability to use Groups.IO more efficiently, is there a way we can advocate as a group, versus sending the occasional solitary email complaint that ultimately goes unanswered?

 

Ideally, on the web pages, each original question and the responses would be tagged with a heading. On the daily digest, “New topics” and “new replies” would both have headings. However, adding headings to the web pages is the biggest priority.

 

I want to emphasize that I wouldn’t expend time on this if I didn’t value the service. It is an excellent resource. But that doesn’t mean there is no room for improvement.

 

Thanks to all who support asking that they do something about this. Also, sorry in advance for any inconvenience to you because I am sending this message to several lists, so you may see some repetition.

 

Regards,

David


moderated Re: reading footnotes in a word document

kevin meyers
 

I pressed the jaws key, 0 and then v. That doesn’t do anything. I then pressed jaws key o and v. That didn’t do anything. When Jaws reads your text below it says jaws key zero volt. Is that some special key?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi Kevin-all,

The trick is, while in word, to invoke the word specific jaws settings with jawskey0v and search for “ui” this is uig or something and relates to a Microsoft setting. Uncheck the box, and make sure footnotes are set to be read in place. Then I think you will be ok.

                                                            Hope this helps,

                                                            Takis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading footnotes in a word document

 

Hi, I’m using the most recent version of Jaws2020 and word 2016. When just reading a word document is it possible to setup Jaws so footnotes are visable without pressing the windows key plus ;? I know when I move through the document someone else has created, I wouldn’t know there were footnotes unless I was told. I guess I could always look using the windows plus ; keys. Yet if someone is just reading a book on a recreational basis will they know there are footnotes? What about Kindle? Thanks, Kevin

 


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, the issue is very annoying. After Dell does an update, a Dell update and not a Windows update, the mouse touch pad gets re activated. Go into control panel and under mouse you will find a setting to turn off the touch pad. 

On my dell the setting is only available under the mouse tab in control panel.  On some Dell’s it may be easier to find.  The setting is not easy to locate with JAWS so if sighted assistance is available this will save time.  JAWS does read the items in the mouse area so perhaps with a little extra work with JAWS you should be able to control the function.  It is a check box.

 

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

 

Mark:

 

I have been using Dell laptops lately, and always try to turn off the mouse pad for the same reasons you suggest.

 

However, I notice that sometimes the mouse pad gets turned back on probably from Dell updates, so I’m gradually learning to live with the mouse bening enabled.

 

If someone has instructions for turning the mouse pad off on a Dell computer, and keeping it off, I’d appreciate them.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

Motivate, Inspire & Serve

 


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

Thanks to my smart speaker, I learned of a way to disable the Mouse in Windows. I went to Device Manager, found my mouse, hit the applications key and disabled it that way. Now all I have to do is remember what I did in case someone actually wants to use it.

 

Just for your information.

 

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 4:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

 

I press the function key and F7 to turn off the touch pad. Then to turn it back on press function and F7 again. This is on an Acer laptop.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

Motivate, Inspire & Serve

 


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

kevin meyers
 

I press the function key and F7 to turn off the touch pad. Then to turn it back on press function and F7 again. This is on an Acer laptop.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

Motivate, Inspire & Serve

 


moderated canvas accesssibility

Paul Faucheux
 

hi this is paul faucheux. is canvas accessible with jaws 2020 or 2021. i am going to be taking information communications  technology  courses at north shore technical community college. i previously went there from january 3 2008 to march 21 2011. during that time they used blackboard for course materials  and accessing assignments as well as submitting assignments  please let me know  if it is accessible and if not what should i do or say to instructors and people at at the school. i will be taking the classes at there hammond louisiana campus. please email  me at pf112781@... or call me at 985-370-2072.


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Tom Behler
 

Don:

As far as I know, Dell laptops are different.

My understanding is that you have to go into the bios to turn off the mouse
pad, and I've found that the setting often does not stick.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 4:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Laptop mouse question

On my HHP laptops there is a mouse setting to disable the touch pad if you
have a physical mouse plugged in. I purchased a mouse with a small dongle
and keep it plugged into a USB port.

On 11/15/2020 2:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Mark:



I have been using Dell laptops lately, and always try to turn off the
mouse pad for the same reasons you suggest.



However, I notice that sometimes the mouse pad gets turned back on
probably from Dell updates, so I'm gradually learning to live with the
mouse bening enabled.



If someone has instructions for turning the mouse pad off on a Dell
computer, and keeping it off, I'd appreciate them.



Tom Behler







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold
ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question



List,



I have had numerous laptops over the years and the "mouse" area always
causes problems. Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and
JAWS loses focus. Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an
external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse? Any input would
be appreciated.



Thanks in advance,

Mark





Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com <http://www.AmericanBlindGolf.com>

www.OhioBlindGolf.com <http://www.OhioBlindGolf.com>





Motivate, Inspire & Serve











moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Don H
 

On my HHP laptops there is a mouse setting to disable the touch pad if you have a physical mouse plugged in. I purchased a mouse with a small dongle and keep it plugged into a USB port.

On 11/15/2020 2:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Mark:
I have been using Dell laptops lately, and always try to turn off the mouse
pad for the same reasons you suggest.
However, I notice that sometimes the mouse pad gets turned back on probably
from Dell updates, so I'm gradually learning to live with the mouse bening
enabled.
If someone has instructions for turning the mouse pad off on a Dell
computer, and keeping it off, I'd appreciate them.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question
List,
I have had numerous laptops over the years and the "mouse" area always
causes problems. Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS
loses focus. Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse
if sighted users want to utilize a mouse? Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Mark
Mark D. Arnold
Co-Director
American Blind Golf
Phone: (330) 419-1710
www.AmericanBlindGolf.com <http://www.AmericanBlindGolf.com>
www.OhioBlindGolf.com <http://www.OhioBlindGolf.com>
Motivate, Inspire & Serve


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Pat Byrne
 

Tom,
I believe that there is a way to turn off the mouse in BIOS, but that's all I know. Perhaps a start.
Pat Byrne


moderated Re: Laptop mouse question

Tom Behler
 

Mark:

 

I have been using Dell laptops lately, and always try to turn off the mouse pad for the same reasons you suggest.

 

However, I notice that sometimes the mouse pad gets turned back on probably from Dell updates, so I’m gradually learning to live with the mouse bening enabled.

 

If someone has instructions for turning the mouse pad off on a Dell computer, and keeping it off, I’d appreciate them.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Laptop mouse question

 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

Motivate, Inspire & Serve

 


moderated Laptop mouse question

Mark Arnold ABG
 

List,

 

I have had numerous laptops over the years and the “mouse” area always causes problems…  Often times I inadvertently touch the mouse area and JAWS loses focus.  Do most users turn off the mouse and connect an external mouse if sighted users want to utilize a mouse?  Any input would be appreciated…

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 

Mark D. Arnold

Co-Director

American Blind Golf

Phone: (330) 419-1710

www.AmericanBlindGolf.com

www.OhioBlindGolf.com

 

Motivate, Inspire & Serve

 


moderated Re: Jaws command question

Madison Martin
 

Turns out I didn't have a hot key set, which would explain why it didn't work.
Thanks everyone!!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November 15, 2020 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something braille
display users often use because they want less speech, but still some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination Jaws
will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S
which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up the
properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you set was
removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but as
Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer Control +
Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination than Control +
Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it it
took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed the
keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and type
Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a space
between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure, this
minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is the only
shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and enter and
Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of the
program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press enter,
for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a problem on a
machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application files are all called
JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which version of Jaws you get is
probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you only have 1 Jaws version on your
computer this should also work and strictly by how many keys you have to press
it is easier than Windows Key + R and typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent unless
you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say full
speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where none
of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your jaws
version works quite well.



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s) just
mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have any
other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the shortcut is
only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you want to mute
speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't hear
the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt j,
but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the command
set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any other way I
can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille display doesn't
work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to turn
it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions anyone
can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Madison Martin
 

It worked!!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 15, 2020 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

 

Madison,

            You're already half way there.  As Arkadiusz has said you can Open File Location then select JAWS and do a Send to Desktop from the context menu.

            See also:  
Adding Desktop Shortcuts Under Windows 10
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


no, the context key is to left of control key on right side on most keyboards. If you have a laptop with out the context key you can use shift F10. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Stupid question, but is the applications/menu key the same as the alt key?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

 

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 02:51 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

How do I do a right click?

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Any time you see "right click" think, "bring up the context menu."   I can't say whether you prefer SHIFT+F10 or the Applications/Menu Key, if your keyboard has one.
 
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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Madison Martin
 

Stupid question, but is the applications/menu key the same as the alt key?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

 

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 02:51 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

How do I do a right click?

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Any time you see "right click" think, "bring up the context menu."   I can't say whether you prefer SHIFT+F10 or the Applications/Menu Key, if your keyboard has one.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

context key is the same as right click.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop


How do I do a right click? I don't use a mouse and the touch pad is turned
off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Go to file location right click on the JAWS file and choose send to and then
choose desktop shortcut.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop


That didn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers
via
groups.io
Sent: November 15, 2020 1:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Do what you did, but Open file location find your JAWS and copy the file to
the
clipboard.
Now go to your desktop and paste the file.

Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: 15 November 2020 18:55
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: getting Jaws on the desktop

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I
went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for
Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start
Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not.
Thanks
Madison

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