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moderated Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Chris Hill
 

If the alt key things are the worst, try an external keyboard to make sure something weird isn't going on with the one on the laptop.  Otherwise, you're going to have to get a newer version of jaws.



On 11/15/2020 11:15, tele1974@... wrote:
 I am a federal government employee, so downloading newer versions of jaws unfortunately isn’t an option for me. Are there any possible workaround or is this just something I’m going to have to deal with?   Honestly the worst of the two issues is the alt plus other keystrokes not working. Does anyone know why this would be? 


moderated Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Ken Chernack
 

Hi Dan. Thanks for the reply.
I have been off the grid for the past 33 hours.

I am a long-long time user of Norton. Most of the time as a sighted person,
but for at least the last 8 years as a fully blind user.

Their software does a great job of protecting my PC from 'bad' things
happening, and when they included a password manager in their product a few
years ago, I remained a very happy and loyal customer.
Their software is not accessible friendly, but live with it by having a
sighted volunteer assist.

I am not familiar with the function you are talking about, but will call
Norton Help Desk and hopefully get a good, workable solution from them.

Thanks again.
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi,
Some security software is like a Toyota Camry and others like a Lexus.
Both are good just depends on the depth of comfort and features you need or
want. Norton is like the Lexus and I don't think you need to abandon them.
Nortons should have a place where you can tell it to ignore files and or
programs each and every time they are executed. Norton's is doing its job
but sometimes it gets over zealous. Look around your program and find the
place you can exclude files from being labeled as trojans or malware.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via
groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I have
been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software such
as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs are
treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software removes
JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve the
issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated getting Jaws on the desktop

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison


moderated questions about jaws versions

Deb and the girls
 

I seem to have two jaws 20 versions loaded on my laptop. I
just deleted jaws 18 and 19 from my laptop successfully. If I deleted the
earlier version of jaws 20, would the other one disappear as well? Please
respond asap!
debsoundandscent@earthlink.net
Thanks
Deb Ver Steeg

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Actually, you have to be on speech on demand and then press Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S and you then hear "Speech off set to speech
mute".
At that point Jaws is completely muted and Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S
will restore ful lspeech.
I was almost certain earlier when I tried this Jaws Key + Spacebar followed
by Shift + S worked directly, but now I am also getting the message "not
available in full speech mode" and I have to first go to speech on demand
before I can use the layered keystroke with Shift + S to fully mute Jaws.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full
speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something
braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still
some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination
Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar
followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up
the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you
set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but
as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer
Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination
than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it
it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed
the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and
type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a
space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure,
this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is
the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and
enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of
the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press
enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a
problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application
files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which
version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you
only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly
by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and
typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent
unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say
full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where
none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your
jaws version works quite well.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I'm not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s)
just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching
as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have
any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the
shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you
want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope
this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't
hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt
j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the
command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any
other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille
display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't
even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to
turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions
anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Mario
 

although you did not specify what version of Windows and JAWS you are using, as Windows 10 continues to receive feature improvements and other updates, older versions of JAWS will gradually stop working as expected.

and it is beneficial to maintain an SMA to be eligible to install the latest versions of JAWS. It is cheaper than paying $400 or more to bring you to the latest version of JAWS because the version you have is not working so well.

-------- Original Message --------
From: tele1974@gmail.com
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2020, 12:15 PM
Subject: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,
 I am a federal government employee, so downloading newer versions of
jaws unfortunately isn’t an option for me. Are there any possible
workaround or is this just something I’m going to have to deal with?
Honestly the worst of the two issues is the alt plus other keystrokes
not working. Does anyone know why this would be?


moderated Re: accessible capture

 

Andrew,

 

If you want to read about TechSmith's Capture formerly known as Jing program, try this website:

 

https://www.techsmith.com/jing-tool.html

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 5:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible capture

 

I cannot find anything to do with capture on that site, apart from something to do with video.

 

Andrew

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: 15 November 2020 11:06
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: accessible capture

 

Hi. Found an accessible simple to use capture program. Called capture and made by a firm called text smith http://www.textsmith.com. You do need to create a free account. This is a simple image capture. Able to then click on the capture button, once you are in that window. Or part of it. Then click save, and then save to that. So that’s what I am was looking for. To capture screen shots inside windows server, where the print screen key not working inside hyper v, windows server. And even did try finding alt control – and alt control == for windows server. And still did not work. So did try that on my windows 10 host system. It is accessible with jaws and nvda.

Thanks.

 


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
 

Stupid me. He can even copy the shortcut right from there and the effect
will be the same.
Sorry for the inconvenience.


moderated Re: Jaws command question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Actually, you have to be on speech on demand and then press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S and you then hear "Speech off set to speech mute".
At that point Jaws is completely muted and Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S will restore ful lspeech.
I was almost certain earlier when I tried this Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S worked directly, but now I am also getting the message "not available in full speech mode" and I have to first go to speech on demand before I can use the layered keystroke with Shift + S to fully mute Jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure, this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your jaws version works quite well.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I'm not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s) just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

 

Madison,

            You're already half way there.  As Arkadiusz has said you can Open File Location then select JAWS and do a Send to Desktop from the context menu.

            See also:  Adding Desktop Shortcuts Under Windows 10
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: getting Jaws on the desktop

Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
 

Click on "Open File Location" and create the shorctut from there.


moderated getting Jaws on the desktop

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I went to my desktop and the Jaws shortcut doesn't seem to be on there. I went
into the search box and found Jaws, but when I pressed shift f10 to create a
shortcut I got 5 options:
Run as administrator
Open file location
Unpin from taskbar
Pin to start
Uninstall

Can someone please tell me, what other way (s) can I create a shortcut for Jaws
on my desktop? Even though you've all provided me with other ways to start Jaws,
I'd still like to check and see if my shortcut key is still set or not. Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: Jaws command question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I guess this works as long as Jaws is the first thing which pops up when you press Windows Key and J. If it does and it's consistent then great, if not that is where typing JFW comes in handy.
Both methods once again also depend on whether you have just one version of Jaws installed because if not either method could potentially load the version of Jaws you don't want.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Try alt + J + enter. I regularly have to turn JAWS off and then back on while using the training version of Perky Duck, a software I use to produce my Literary Braille Transcriber Course lessons. So I know this works in that environment. It should work elsewhere too.

Shabbat shalom,

Bill Tessore
billtessore@gmail.com
On Nov 14, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Madison Martin <maddymartin@mymts.net> wrote:

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I
couldn't hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws
using insert f4. Well after the video was finished I tried to turn
Jaws on using control alt j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click
on Jaws. Now I know I have the command set, so I'm not sure why it
doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any other way I can turn Jaws on
myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille display doesn't work
either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't even know where
I am. I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the
command to turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to
any suggestions anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison






moderated Re: Jaws command question

Sharon S
 

Hi, another up side of using the insert + space S command means your braille
display will still work.

Also your braille display won't work if your not running Jaws because it is
part of Jaws that runs the braille display.

Another option to turn it back on from anywhere press windows key + M, J
then enter. This works provided you only have one item on your desktop that
starts with the letter J.

Hope this helps.
From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s)
just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching
as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have
any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the
shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you
want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope
this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't
hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt
j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the
command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any
other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille
display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't
even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to
turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions
anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Jaws command question

Sharon
 

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full
speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something
braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still
some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination
Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar
followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up
the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you
set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but
as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer
Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination
than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it
it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed
the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and
type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a
space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure,
this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is
the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and
enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of
the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press
enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a
problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application
files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which
version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you
only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly
by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and
typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent
unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say
full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where
none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your
jaws version works quite well.



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s)
just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching
as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have
any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the
shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you
want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope
this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't
hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt
j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the
command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any
other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille
display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't
even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to
turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions
anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Jaws command question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by Shift + S
As soon as you press this key combination Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure, this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your jaws version works quite well.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I'm not the card shark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s) just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

tele1974@...
 

 I am a federal government employee, so downloading newer versions of jaws unfortunately isn’t an option for me. Are there any possible workaround or is this just something I’m going to have to deal with?   Honestly the worst of the two issues is the alt plus other keystrokes not working. Does anyone know why this would be? 


moderated Re: Woes with Jaws and Microsoft 365

Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
 

Jonathan,

 

Thank you for the suggestion. Not really sure where to find this, could you head me in the right direction?

 

So far, all other suggestions offered have not worked out.

 

Alan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Woes with Jaws and Microsoft 365

 

Is there any chance that you could use your iCloud account with the directory services and calendaring features built into Outlook 2019? If Outlook can communicate directly with iCloud just like Macintosh Mail can communicate with exchange servers, you might be able to avoid the apple Outlook plugin.


moderated Re: Woes with Jaws and Microsoft 365

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Is there any chance that you could use your iCloud account with the directory services and calendaring features built into Outlook 2019? If Outlook can communicate directly with iCloud just like Macintosh Mail can communicate with exchange servers, you might be able to avoid the apple Outlook plugin.


moderated Accessible documentation software?

Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
 

Hello List,
I am searching for a software which will allow me to write the software
documentation conveniently and will provide me with all tools to
collaborate with another person.
The software must be accessible with JAWS, either default or with
scripts.
Thank you.


moderated Re: accessible capture

Andrew Summers
 

I cannot find anything to do with capture on that site, apart from something to do with video.

 

Andrew

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: 15 November 2020 11:06
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: accessible capture

 

Hi. Found an accessible simple to use capture program. Called capture and made by a firm called text smith http://www.textsmith.com. You do need to create a free account. This is a simple image capture. Able to then click on the capture button, once you are in that window. Or part of it. Then click save, and then save to that. So that’s what I am was looking for. To capture screen shots inside windows server, where the print screen key not working inside hyper v, windows server. And even did try finding alt control – and alt control == for windows server. And still did not work. So did try that on my windows 10 host system. It is accessible with jaws and nvda.

Thanks.

 

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