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moderated Re: How Many of you out there have used Google Calendar?

Rick Miller
 

Brian:

 

It is the Settings for notifications with Google calendar I am having trouble with.  I did not know there are settings for just a single event.  The problem I am having is this.  When I get into the Settings menu for Google Calendar I arrow down to where there are notifications.  I have heard that there are three ways you can get notifications—e-mail, Desktop and Alert.  When I get to where the notification settings are I hit the Enter key.  The option for Desktop notifications is there and the Option for Alerts is there, but when I arrow up above Desktop I have found that instead of giving an e-mail notification, JAWS is just saying the word “off.”  That puzzles me, and that is what I have been inquiring about.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How Many of you out there have used Google Calendar?

 

Rick,

             One quick request for clarification.  I am not certain whether you're having trouble with the settings related to Notifications from Google Calendar, setting up notifications in a Google Calendar Event, or both.  Would you please let me know whether you need assistance with one, the other, or both of these things.

              I am also presuming that you wish to use Google Calendar via its own web interface, rather than using a Sync Client to sync your Google Calendar to your Outlook Calendar.  If that's not true, please let me know your preference.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How Many of you out there have used Google Calendar?

 

Rick,

             One quick request for clarification.  I am not certain whether you're having trouble with the settings related to Notifications from Google Calendar, setting up notifications in a Google Calendar Event, or both.  Would you please let me know whether you need assistance with one, the other, or both of these things.

              I am also presuming that you wish to use Google Calendar via its own web interface, rather than using a Sync Client to sync your Google Calendar to your Outlook Calendar.  If that's not true, please let me know your preference.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: A Specific Message for Brian Vogel

 

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 04:43 PM, Rick Miller wrote:
I replied to this message three days ago, but as of yet have not heard from you. 
-
Because I missed your response.  I am human, and I also have other things going on in my life, so it will occasionally happen.  Now that you've brought this to my attention I will go back and give the response on the original subject after I have had time to look things over in your initial reply.

Also, and it's not the case here I hasten to add, any assistant has the right to stop assisting at any time, for any reason, as we're not being paid.  It's generally considered rude to do so "without provocation," and without saying one is doing so, but it does sometimes happen.  That's not what happened in this case, though.  Keep an eye out for a reply later this evening.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated A Specific Message for Brian Vogel

Rick Miller
 

Dear Brian:

 

On October 26th, you sent me a message  in reply to a message I sent to the group about the terrible time I am having trying to get JAWS to work with Google Calendar on my computer.  I replied to this message three days ago, but as of yet have not heard from you.  There is one thing, though, that you said in your message that I cannot figure out how to do.  You suggested that I use More Options in order to receive e-mail notifications.  In the settings menu I cannot find More Options, so how do you get it to work?

 

In the message I sent you on November 11, I answered the questions you had asked me when you were trying to give me advice about the use of Google Calendar.  The message is below, so now I hope that perhaps you might be able to help me, as nobody else has.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: Richard Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: RE: How Many of you out there have used Google Calendar?

 

Dear Brian:

 

I am very comfortable with Outlook calendar—in fact, much more so than with Google Calendar.  The Google calendar I am using is my own, and I am trying to use it from the web.  Every time I open up my browser, which is Chrome, I hit Alt+L, and when the addressbar pops up I enter calendar.google.com and hit the Enter key, and the calendar comes up with no trouble.  I have learned how to create an event, but it is just the notifications I am concerned about.  When I get into the Settings menu and go down to where the notification settings are I hit the Enter key, and when the combo box comes up I see there are alert notifications and desktop notifications, but when I up-arrow from where it indicates there are desktop notifications instead of hearing the word “E-mail,” I hear the word “off.”  I don’t know why this is so, and when I try to turn notifications on nothing seems to be working, so I have for the moment just gone back to using Outlook calendar which I am more comfortable and familiar with.  If you can receive e-mail Google calendar notifications I do not know how to access them.  But in answer to your questions, I am very familiar with Outlook calendar and I am trying to use Google calendar from the web.  I am using the latest JAWS beta version and Windows 10.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 9:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How Many of you out there have used Google Calendar?

 

Rick,

            I have several questions before I try to offer any guidance:

1.  Are you already familiar and comfortable with Outlook calendar?

2.  Is the Google Calendar you're trying to manage your own, or does it belong to someone else or another entity and you've been granted modification permissions?

3.  Am I safe in presuming, at least at the moment, that you are trying to use the Google Calendar web interface to create/edit events/appointments?

Google Calendar's own web interface has changed, not like last week recently, but within the last year, so that a minimal set of features for an event, not including notifications, is shown by default.  You must activate the More Options control in order to have the full complement of event options, including the Notifications controls, become visible.  There are only two Notification methods, email and notification.  Email is exactly what you'd think, an e-mail is sent to you to remind you at whatever interval prior to the event you set.  Notification will cause a pop-up on a desktop computer or a notification message on a smartphone that's much like a text, but generated by Google Calendar.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Focus 40 & jaws reading question

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Still not clear to me. Do you want jaws to echo every character you type when using a regular keyboard, but only words when using the Perkins keyboard on your Braille display? The insert 2 keystroke should  cycle through the levels of keyboard feedback, but I don't believe there is anyway to have the feedback different for Perkins vs QWERTY.


moderated Re: Usin Standard View in GMAIL

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Hello,
I have found from the documentation and then testing that you have to type the star (asterisk) followed very quickly by a to select all conversations. The reverse of this is star N.
There is the possibility of changing this setting but the table to modify keyboard shortcuts is not veery intuitive.
Jonathan

On Nov 14, 2020, at 08:10, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I have enabled the Keyboard commands in Standard View. However, they
are not working. For instance, after choosing mails received from a
Sender 'through the search function' I wish to delete all of them at
once. However, the * command for 'selecting all mails' is not working.
Other commands such as 'e' for archive are also not working.
What mistake am I making?
Thanking you
Best
Turab





moderated Re: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:47 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
the one with the z is some Italian software that hasn’t been updated since 2013.
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Indeed, because it hasn't been because it hasn't had any reason to be.  A program doing something as basic as Silenzio (which is correct) does is likely to remain un-updated "forever."

This is the source software.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Richard. Actually, both are spelled with a Z. Mike spelled it wrongly in the subject line.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

 

I have no need for this as my sound card in my Del laptop is working fine.

However, I noticed that the download from Sourceforge was spelled with a z not a c.  the one with the z is some Italian software that hasn’t been updated since 2013.

The one Mike is posting is spelled with a c and is likely what folks are looking for.

Spelling counts.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:36 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

 

Hi All,

 

Here's a direct download link for the correct Silencio.  I'm running this 1 myself.

 


 

 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.


moderated Re: Compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Rohan,
Thunderbird is definitely accessible with JAWS 2020 and 2021 for the majority of its email-based features, including adding message rules. There is a dedicated Thunderbird discussion list on Groups.io from an accessibility perspective which I encourage you to join.
email: thunderbird+subscribe@groups.io


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/14/2020 5:54 AM, Rohan wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have configured my Gmail account in Windows 10 Mail client. It seems that there is no way to add rules or create filters in this app. Can someone please share the compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020?

 

Response awaited. Thanks much!

 

 

Best Regards,

Rohan



moderated Compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020

Rohan
 

Hi all,

 

I have configured my Gmail account in Windows 10 Mail client. It seems that there is no way to add rules or create filters in this app. Can someone please share the compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020?

 

Response awaited. Thanks much!

 

 

Best Regards,

Rohan


moderated Inconsistent behavior of Set Temporary Placemarker

Dale Heltzer
 

I'm using latest versions of Google Chrome & JFW 2020. In setting a placemarker, I frequently find that it has moved... usually when I want to copy a block of text with the layered copy from current position to marked place. Has anyone else run into this, and is there a fix?
Thanks.


moderated Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hello. Are you saying that Norton software currently contains accessibility challenges? I'm wondering if you could be a bit more specific about what some of the current issues are?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/14/2020 7:09 AM, Ken Chernack via groups.io wrote:
Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I have
been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software such
as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs are
treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software removes
JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve the
issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP










moderated Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
Some security software is like a Toyota Camry and others like a Lexus.
Both are good just depends on the depth of comfort and features you need or
want. Norton is like the Lexus and I don't think you need to abandon them.
Nortons should have a place where you can tell it to ignore files and or
programs each and every time they are executed. Norton's is doing its job
but sometimes it gets over zealous. Look around your program and find the
place you can exclude files from being labeled as trojans or malware.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via
groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I have
been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software such
as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs are
treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software removes
JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve the
issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated Re: Lost navigation

T. Civitello
 

Thanks Mike. Don’t know what happened last evening but everything is back to normal this morning.  Tom
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: Lost navigation
 
Hi Tom,
 
Press, Insert + Z, to make sure the virtual cursor is turned on.  If it's off press, Insert + Z, to turn it on.  Try holding down the, Insert key, and tapping the, Z key, twice quickly until you hear, the virtual cursor will be turned on for all applications.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:55 PM
Subject: Lost navigation
 
I seem to have lost the ability to navigate in text in a document or message or on line. Say all works but next line or last line or reading a letter or word one at a time will not work. This is on a Win 7 PC running Jaws 2021. I mayhem messed up the quick settings in IE.  Help!   Tom


moderated Re: Lost navigation

Mike B.
 

Hi Tom,
 
Press, Insert + Z, to make sure the virtual cursor is turned on.  If it's off press, Insert + Z, to turn it on.  Try holding down the, Insert key, and tapping the, Z key, twice quickly until you hear, the virtual cursor will be turned on for all applications.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:55 PM
Subject: Lost navigation

I seem to have lost the ability to navigate in text in a document or message or on line. Say all works but next line or last line or reading a letter or word one at a time will not work. This is on a Win 7 PC running Jaws 2021. I mayhem messed up the quick settings in IE.  Help!   Tom


moderated Usin Standard View in GMAIL

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all,
I have enabled the Keyboard commands in Standard View. However, they
are not working. For instance, after choosing mails received from a
Sender 'through the search function' I wish to delete all of them at
once. However, the * command for 'selecting all mails' is not working.
Other commands such as 'e' for archive are also not working.
What mistake am I making?
Thanking you
Best
Turab


moderated Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Ken Chernack
 

Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I have
been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software such
as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs are
treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software removes
JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve the
issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated Lost navigation

T. Civitello
 

I seem to have lost the ability to navigate in text in a document or message or on line. Say all works but next line or last line or reading a letter or word one at a time will not work. This is on a Win 7 PC running Jaws 2021. I mayhem messed up the quick settings in IE.  Help!   Tom


moderated Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Don. I was telling Tom that the link to Silenzio was for the wrong program. The link that Tom sent was to an Italian avatar instead of a link to the program to send silence to a sound card.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Not sure what you mean, sorry, my brain is on overload.


Regards:

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)

303.334.4184
Don.mauck@oracle.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Hi, Tom. This is the wrong Silenzio.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Hi,
I found it at Sourceforge. It’s a relatively small zip file at 7.5 megs. You can get it at:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sourceforge.net/projects/silenzio/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!KOC-SpEoZvURmAHAkJQPCblF2oPNwScBEqU4Rb0oefaKp0jDcS9lJihjZC3LHUU$

Tom

On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@oracle.com> wrote:

I have it, however, every time I try to run it, my Virus program removes it and states it is a trojan.


Regards:

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program
Office | (APO)

303.334.4184
Don.mauck@oracle.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica D <jldail13@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Hi,
I’ll try it too.
Can you please send me the link as well?
Thanks,
Jessica
On Nov 13, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Tom Lange <lange85@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Chris,
I looked for Silenzio yesterday and couldn’t find it. Do have a link to it, or is it small enough to send it to me?
Thanks,
Tom


On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:56 AM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:
Better yet, install silenzio, then you can still use audio ducking.



On 11/12/2020 18:58, Tom Lange wrote:
Hi all,

Immediately after installing JAWS 2021 this morning, I noticed that
speech at the beginning of words was being cut off when moving
around in dialog boxes, list views, et cetera. As you can well
imagine, the situation was intolerable and crazy-making . If this
happens to you after installing Fusion or JAWS 2021, you need to do
the following to solve the problem.

Step 1, press Insert+6 on the number row to get into Settings Center.
Step 2, press ctrl+shift+D to switch to the default settings.
Step 3, in the search box, type the word cut. Wait a few seconds
for the search results list to populate. You should see only one result.
It’s an unchecked checkbox with a label that reads as follows.

Avoid speech cutoff when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards.

If you tab away from that checkbox to read the explanatory text,
you should see some text that says

“Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers shut down after a
while of not receiving sound to conserve battery. If this check box
is selected, JAWS will keep them awake by constantly playing
silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will remain
active, resulting in more consistent speech.
Note that the battery of your headphones/speakers could drain
faster if you turn this on.
This check box is cleared by default.”

End of explanatory text.

Checking that checkbox will eliminate the speech cutoff. However,
the side effect is that some events will trigger a reduction in
speech volume, which can be troublesome if you’re only using a
laptop’s speakers. I compensated for this dip in volume by using
powered, wired external speakers.

Step 4, tab to the Apply button and press Enter or the space bar.
Step 5, tab to OK and press Enter to close Settings Center.

Note: The checkbox referenced in step 3 above is unchecked by
default in JAWS 2020 and Fusion 2020, and there is no speech cutoff.
So this is a bug which was apparently introduced in 2021 which
needs to be reported to Freedom Scientific.

I hope this helps you. Let me know if you have any questions.

Tom


















moderated Re: Focus 40 & jaws reading question

Rayn Darren
 

My apologies, I wasn’t clear. What I’m looking to do is set a function where when the focus braille keyboard is used, words are spoken by jaws. Only using that keyboard. Is that possible?

On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Stephanie <naturelovingmom@gmail.com> wrote:

 I have the same problem with it speaking every character. I also cant mute thespeech as insert+space does not work.

Steph

On 14 Nov 2020, at 11:29 am, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just got a Focus 40 5th generation and have a question. I hope it’s possible to set jaws to speak words only while the focus keyboard is used? It would really help me when I’m editing documents and posts for podcasts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Sarah






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