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moderated Re: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:47 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
the one with the z is some Italian software that hasn’t been updated since 2013.
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Indeed, because it hasn't been because it hasn't had any reason to be.  A program doing something as basic as Silenzio (which is correct) does is likely to remain un-updated "forever."

This is the source software.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Richard. Actually, both are spelled with a Z. Mike spelled it wrongly in the subject line.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

 

I have no need for this as my sound card in my Del laptop is working fine.

However, I noticed that the download from Sourceforge was spelled with a z not a c.  the one with the z is some Italian software that hasn’t been updated since 2013.

The one Mike is posting is spelled with a c and is likely what folks are looking for.

Spelling counts.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:36 AM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Silencio, Correct 1, Download Link

 

Hi All,

 

Here's a direct download link for the correct Silencio.  I'm running this 1 myself.

 


 

 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.


moderated Re: Compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Rohan,
Thunderbird is definitely accessible with JAWS 2020 and 2021 for the majority of its email-based features, including adding message rules. There is a dedicated Thunderbird discussion list on Groups.io from an accessibility perspective which I encourage you to join.
email: thunderbird+subscribe@groups.io


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/14/2020 5:54 AM, Rohan wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have configured my Gmail account in Windows 10 Mail client. It seems that there is no way to add rules or create filters in this app. Can someone please share the compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020?

 

Response awaited. Thanks much!

 

 

Best Regards,

Rohan



moderated Compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020

Rohan
 

Hi all,

 

I have configured my Gmail account in Windows 10 Mail client. It seems that there is no way to add rules or create filters in this app. Can someone please share the compatibility of Thunderbird with Jaws2020?

 

Response awaited. Thanks much!

 

 

Best Regards,

Rohan


moderated Inconsistent behavior of Set Temporary Placemarker

Dale Heltzer
 

I'm using latest versions of Google Chrome & JFW 2020. In setting a placemarker, I frequently find that it has moved... usually when I want to copy a block of text with the layered copy from current position to marked place. Has anyone else run into this, and is there a fix?
Thanks.


moderated Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hello. Are you saying that Norton software currently contains accessibility challenges? I'm wondering if you could be a bit more specific about what some of the current issues are?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/14/2020 7:09 AM, Ken Chernack via groups.io wrote:
Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I have
been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software such
as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs are
treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software removes
JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve the
issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP










moderated Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,
Some security software is like a Toyota Camry and others like a Lexus.
Both are good just depends on the depth of comfort and features you need or
want. Norton is like the Lexus and I don't think you need to abandon them.
Nortons should have a place where you can tell it to ignore files and or
programs each and every time they are executed. Norton's is doing its job
but sometimes it gets over zealous. Look around your program and find the
place you can exclude files from being labeled as trojans or malware.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via
groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I have
been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software such
as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs are
treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software removes
JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve the
issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated Re: Lost navigation

T. Civitello
 

Thanks Mike. Don’t know what happened last evening but everything is back to normal this morning.  Tom
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: Lost navigation
 
Hi Tom,
 
Press, Insert + Z, to make sure the virtual cursor is turned on.  If it's off press, Insert + Z, to turn it on.  Try holding down the, Insert key, and tapping the, Z key, twice quickly until you hear, the virtual cursor will be turned on for all applications.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:55 PM
Subject: Lost navigation
 
I seem to have lost the ability to navigate in text in a document or message or on line. Say all works but next line or last line or reading a letter or word one at a time will not work. This is on a Win 7 PC running Jaws 2021. I mayhem messed up the quick settings in IE.  Help!   Tom


moderated Re: Lost navigation

Mike B
 

Hi Tom,
 
Press, Insert + Z, to make sure the virtual cursor is turned on.  If it's off press, Insert + Z, to turn it on.  Try holding down the, Insert key, and tapping the, Z key, twice quickly until you hear, the virtual cursor will be turned on for all applications.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:55 PM
Subject: Lost navigation

I seem to have lost the ability to navigate in text in a document or message or on line. Say all works but next line or last line or reading a letter or word one at a time will not work. This is on a Win 7 PC running Jaws 2021. I mayhem messed up the quick settings in IE.  Help!   Tom


moderated Usin Standard View in GMAIL

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all,
I have enabled the Keyboard commands in Standard View. However, they
are not working. For instance, after choosing mails received from a
Sender 'through the search function' I wish to delete all of them at
once. However, the * command for 'selecting all mails' is not working.
Other commands such as 'e' for archive are also not working.
What mistake am I making?
Thanking you
Best
Turab


moderated Re: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Ken Chernack
 

Will you please explain a little more about your comments?
I use Norton Security for security, password management and more.
I just can't forget about Norton and install Defender.
I have a lifetime of work at stake.

Is anyone at The Sparrow engaged with Norton to correct this bug?

Please lower my blood pressure!
Your, and others, help is appreciated.
Ken
p.s. If there is any truth to your statements, I am very happy that I have
been ignoring the upgrade message I am a SMA subscriber.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2020 and virus software

Hi for people who are having issues with JAWS 2021 and virus software such
as Norton and Mcaffee, there is a solution to this problem!

Apparently, from what I'm reading in the thread, the virus programs are
treating JAWS like it's a Trojan ,malware or a virus. The software removes
JAWS.

Once they are removed, enable Windows defender and this should solve the
issue.

Hope this helps.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated Lost navigation

T. Civitello
 

I seem to have lost the ability to navigate in text in a document or message or on line. Say all works but next line or last line or reading a letter or word one at a time will not work. This is on a Win 7 PC running Jaws 2021. I mayhem messed up the quick settings in IE.  Help!   Tom


moderated Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Don. I was telling Tom that the link to Silenzio was for the wrong program. The link that Tom sent was to an Italian avatar instead of a link to the program to send silence to a sound card.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Not sure what you mean, sorry, my brain is on overload.


Regards:

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)

303.334.4184
Don.mauck@oracle.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Hi, Tom. This is the wrong Silenzio.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Hi,
I found it at Sourceforge. It’s a relatively small zip file at 7.5 megs. You can get it at:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sourceforge.net/projects/silenzio/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!KOC-SpEoZvURmAHAkJQPCblF2oPNwScBEqU4Rb0oefaKp0jDcS9lJihjZC3LHUU$

Tom

On Nov 13, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@oracle.com> wrote:

I have it, however, every time I try to run it, my Virus program removes it and states it is a trojan.


Regards:

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program
Office | (APO)

303.334.4184
Don.mauck@oracle.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessica D <jldail13@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Possible Warning About JAWS 2021 and Speech

Hi,
I’ll try it too.
Can you please send me the link as well?
Thanks,
Jessica
On Nov 13, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Tom Lange <lange85@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Chris,
I looked for Silenzio yesterday and couldn’t find it. Do have a link to it, or is it small enough to send it to me?
Thanks,
Tom


On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:56 AM, Chris Hill <hillco@earthlink.net> wrote:
Better yet, install silenzio, then you can still use audio ducking.



On 11/12/2020 18:58, Tom Lange wrote:
Hi all,

Immediately after installing JAWS 2021 this morning, I noticed that
speech at the beginning of words was being cut off when moving
around in dialog boxes, list views, et cetera. As you can well
imagine, the situation was intolerable and crazy-making . If this
happens to you after installing Fusion or JAWS 2021, you need to do
the following to solve the problem.

Step 1, press Insert+6 on the number row to get into Settings Center.
Step 2, press ctrl+shift+D to switch to the default settings.
Step 3, in the search box, type the word cut. Wait a few seconds
for the search results list to populate. You should see only one result.
It’s an unchecked checkbox with a label that reads as follows.

Avoid speech cutoff when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards.

If you tab away from that checkbox to read the explanatory text,
you should see some text that says

“Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers shut down after a
while of not receiving sound to conserve battery. If this check box
is selected, JAWS will keep them awake by constantly playing
silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will remain
active, resulting in more consistent speech.
Note that the battery of your headphones/speakers could drain
faster if you turn this on.
This check box is cleared by default.”

End of explanatory text.

Checking that checkbox will eliminate the speech cutoff. However,
the side effect is that some events will trigger a reduction in
speech volume, which can be troublesome if you’re only using a
laptop’s speakers. I compensated for this dip in volume by using
powered, wired external speakers.

Step 4, tab to the Apply button and press Enter or the space bar.
Step 5, tab to OK and press Enter to close Settings Center.

Note: The checkbox referenced in step 3 above is unchecked by
default in JAWS 2020 and Fusion 2020, and there is no speech cutoff.
So this is a bug which was apparently introduced in 2021 which
needs to be reported to Freedom Scientific.

I hope this helps you. Let me know if you have any questions.

Tom


















moderated Re: Focus 40 & jaws reading question

Rayn Darren
 

My apologies, I wasn’t clear. What I’m looking to do is set a function where when the focus braille keyboard is used, words are spoken by jaws. Only using that keyboard. Is that possible?

On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Stephanie <naturelovingmom@gmail.com> wrote:

 I have the same problem with it speaking every character. I also cant mute thespeech as insert+space does not work.

Steph

On 14 Nov 2020, at 11:29 am, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just got a Focus 40 5th generation and have a question. I hope it’s possible to set jaws to speak words only while the focus keyboard is used? It would really help me when I’m editing documents and posts for podcasts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Sarah







moderated Re: Issues with Jaws ndwindows 10,

Randy Barnett
 

If you  are running windows 10 especially the latest versions of windows 10 jaws 18 isn’t going to play well with it. You need to ask your employer for the latest version of Jaws.

Randy Barnett

On Nov 13, 2020, at 3:07 PM, tele1974@... wrote:



Hello, I’m hoping someone has some help, I just received a windows 10 laptop through work, and we are running jaws 18.  The issues I’m having are:

1, when hitting alt plus other keys, IE alt+a to go to my explorer favorites, or other similar commands, the command works maybe 25 percent of the time.  Sometimes I have to repeatedly hit the command, and sometimes it just doesn’t work at all.  I’ve not found this with previous versions of windows running jaws 18. 

 

2, the other issue I have is that when I am typing into an edit field, such as a search field on a search engine, or in any other explorer based program, many of the characters I type are not entering into the box.  It’s almost as if there is a lag of some kind.  I will have to go back and add about half the characters I’ve typed back in, as only fragments of words show up in the box. 

I’m hoping this makes sense and that someone may have some suggestions.

Thanks,

Kurt

 


moderated Re: Is anyone having the following jaws issue?

clarence carter
 

I have noticed that issue on some pages. I am not sure if it is an Edge
issue or just a quirk with JAWS 2021.
If anybody finds out what it is, let us know. tThere are some sites that are
impossible to navigate.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having the following jaws issue?

If you have an SMA left or are on the Jaws subscription plan you can just go
to www.FreedomScientific.com and download Jaws 2021. Mike also provided the
links as always.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having the following jaws issue?

I was using my bank's web site which is fully accessible.
The web site is as follows:
www.northwest.bank
Also, I'm still running JAWS 2020.
I went to upgrade today and went through the help to check if there were any
upgrades to jump to 2021, and I was informed that I was up to date.
So, will have to keep a eye out for the notification to jump to 20201.
Ron KR3DOG
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 13:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is anyone having the following jaws issue?

Which version of Jaws?
Any example web sites?



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is anyone having the following jaws issue?

Hello to my fellow JAWS users.
I've noticed when attempting to fill out information when one plugs in one's
password and what not and goes to abuse the spacebar or enter key, it leaves
the web page and you need to alt tab back to the page you were trying to log
into.
Just was curious to know if anyone else was or is having the same issue.
Ron KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency
Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG Who's now also Ares and NIMS Certified as well


moderated Re: Jaws version inquiry

Mike B
 

Hi David,
 
Try this sequence:
1. Press, Insert + J.
2. Now press, Insert, control + V, and your Jaws version should be read to you.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 3:17 PM
Subject: Jaws version inquiry

Hi all:

Think that Jaws upgrade(2021) has been successfully downloaded/installed on
my Windows7 pc, but want to be certain, and need keyboard steps(believe
arrow keys are used), but forget entire sequence.

Thank you,



David S. Pearson






moderated Re: Focus 40 & jaws reading question

Stephanie
 

I have the same problem with it speaking every character. I also cant mute thespeech as insert+space does not work.

Steph

On 14 Nov 2020, at 11:29 am, Rayn Darren <rayndarren@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I just got a Focus 40 5th generation and have a question. I hope it’s possible to set jaws to speak words only while the focus keyboard is used? It would really help me when I’m editing documents and posts for podcasts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Sarah




moderated Focus 40 & jaws reading question

Rayn Darren
 

Hi all,
I just got a Focus 40 5th generation and have a question. I hope it’s possible to set jaws to speak words only while the focus keyboard is used? It would really help me when I’m editing documents and posts for podcasts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Sarah


moderated braille viewer in jaws

romance's prince
 


hello dears
 
as a blind user could use jaws Braille viewer function to copy Braille patterns appear on screen for teaching purpose or testing jaws Braille behavior without physical device?
 or even how I read this Braille if unable to copy, is any way to save these lines like we did in speech history?
  any help will be appreciated.
 

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