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moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

David Diamond
 

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. Likewise, all that is necessary for good to triumph is for evil to do nothing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: November 5, 2020 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online dictionary recommendation

You can't even navigate by headings on that page, at least that I saw.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 11/5/2020 5:24 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
> Give onelook.com ( https://onelook.com/ ) a try and see if you like it.
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> Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041
>
> The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
> ~ Lawrence Krauss
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moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

 

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 06:11 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
You can't even navigate by headings on that page, at least that I saw.
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There are a couple of really weird goings on with NVDA and the Onelook results page, and I can't figure out "who's at fault."

You are right that you can't navigate by headings, as headings are not used in the presentation of results.  The word searched on has links to each dictionary's information for it.  If I hit NVDA+F7 and have searched on, say, "deshabille," there is a stream of links reading deshabille, followed by a home link for the dictionary and an info link - lather rinse repeat for the number of dictionaries in which the word is located.

But, I cannot get single letter nav for links (k), unvisited link (u), or visited link (v) to work at all.  Yet, if I activate using the elements list, the links are noted as visited after I've done so.

I have to decide whether this is something I want to report to NVAccess or not, and will wait to do so until others have read what I wrote above and may be able to offer a logical explanation for this very odd (at least in my experience) behavior with NVDA traversal of the dictionary search results page. 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

Stephanie
 

 Thank you so much. I will be using braille primarly rather than speech, so will need those braille comands. I'm using a focus display. Where do I find the html documents you speak of? [Still having trouble browsing the web the ms shge] 

The reason I have returned to windows is that I'm studying a music degree, and will use software that the mac will not support. Also, I figured that getting a job etc one day, most will use windows. So decided to return to windows. 

Steph   

On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:37 am, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:


Stephani:
 
I can answer 1 of your questions. To mute JAWS, press INSERT/JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, then press the letter S. To unmute JAWS, use the same command sequence.
 
Dave Durber
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 11:01 AM
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  


moderated Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

Stephanie
 

 I got it here in Australia. it cost about $4500 Australian. It's a 40 cell display with a braille keyboard.  I'm still working out how to use it so cant tell you anything else at this point. 

Steph  

On 6 Nov 2020, at 2:10 am, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  


moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

Richard Turner
 

What Onelook.com does, is it tries to access lots of different dictionary resources at once and assumes you will arrow through things.
It is not a straight-up dictionary.

An interesting approach though.
Not what one might want if they just want to get right to a definition.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online dictionary recommendation

You can't even navigate by headings on that page, at least that I saw.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 11/5/2020 5:24 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Give onelook.com ( https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fonelook.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C563a80c5b8e44bbc51d108d881e02079%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637402146896916344%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=rz0m%2BYSJJzUUIWsL0qWSynoP%2F6uDuaCAVK6VXvZYcBM%3D&amp;reserved=0 ) a try and see if you like it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss






moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

Maria Campbell
 

You can't even navigate by headings on that page, at least that I saw.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 11/5/2020 5:24 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Give onelook.com ( https://onelook.com/ ) a try and see if you like it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss





moderated Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Stephanie,

Are you familiar with the JAWS help system? It is incredibly comprehensive.

Press insert-J to open the JAWS window.

Press f1 to access the help system.

You will be in a list of what are known as books and topics.

Think of a topic as a chapter within a book.

Pressing enter will toggle a book from being opened or closed. A book must be opened in order to see the list of topics which are contained within that book.

Alternatively, when you are pointing to a book pressing right arrow opens the book and pressing left arrow closes it.

When you choose a topic that you want to open press enter.

Once you press enter your focus will still be in the list of books and topics. Press the F6 key to move to the topic that you opened. Topics will contain headings and, in most cases, links, just as though you were reading a Web page. Standard reading commands can be used to read each topic.


When you want to return to the list of books and topics press the F6 key again.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/5/2020 6:01 AM, Stephanie wrote:
 Hello all,

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

Thank you so much for your help.

Steph  
-->


moderated Re: Jaws Home and Pro Editions

Paul Faucheux
 

hey jim  when upgrading to windows 10 u can use jaws home on windows 10 pro. its not like the old days where the license  was tied to the operating system u are using it is tied to weather u are using the software on your own pc or a work pc.


On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:27 AM Jim L <jimscave@...> wrote:

                                                                                                                                                                Heya folks,

 

I now need to update to windows 10 from 7 as am having huge issues.

 

These days can I use my Jaws 2020 home license to work on Windows 10 Pro or I can only install Windows 10 Home for it to work?

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

 


moderated Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

Don Mauck
 

Still works.

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Tim Ford <ttford@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

Control + shift + e is the command for older versions of Outlook.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

Jim:

 

Sorry, Don is correct.  The key stroke is control shift E.

 

Control Shift N is used to set up new folders in Windows 10 file explorer.

 

Sorry for the confusion.

 

Tom Behler

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

Control+shift+e

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

The subject line says it all. I am using jaws 2021 beta and windows ten. Jim


moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

 

Give onelook.com a try and see if you like it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

The Leasey program from Hartgen Consultancy has the ability to search the Oxford Dictionary.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/5/2020 5:13 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I got Wordweb. It’s ok for my phone but I would like entries/definitions with a bit more detail. The JAWS researchit function connects to wiktionary and it’s actually much better. I think Oxford has an app of some kind; not sure of screen-reader-friendliness though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: November 5, 2020 05:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Online dictionary recommendation

 

Hello Listers,

I’m looking for a good online, JAWS-friendly, dictionary. I use a Lenovo laptop PC, Windows 10, and the latest version of JAWS. Please recommend your favorite one. I’d prefer a free one if possible.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

Richard Turner
 

Hi,

Dictionary.com works great.

I’m going to paste the link to the word, “grace.”

It will give a few definitions, then there is a more button, which then shows I believe 18 or 19 definitions with examples, and yes, there is a lot of extras you can skip through but then it gets down to the origins and so on.

My wife and I used to have the Oxford English Dicitonary on CD but it was written for Windows 3.1, and at the time, was a steal at $130.

The Oxford English Dictionary had 21 definitions for Grace.  So,  dictionary.com is great for free.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/grace?s=t

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 2:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Online dictionary recommendation

 

Hello Listers,

I’m looking for a good online, JAWS-friendly, dictionary. I use a Lenovo laptop PC, Windows 10, and the latest version of JAWS. Please recommend your favorite one. I’d prefer a free one if possible.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

>>there is a setting there to be able to mute the speech for all apps


That's right. You'll find it in Settings Center under Speech options. You'll hear "less speech options" and it will probably say "speech on demand." Typing the word "less" without the quotes in the search edit field will find this keystroke. Press the space key to set this to "speech mute." You should probably first press shift-ctrl-D after going into Settings Center if you want this keystroke to behave the same way in all applications.

As an aside you can go into Keyboard Manager and add an alternative keystroke if you want. I did this and chose shift-alt-M as my Mute/Unmute toggle. Again, make sure you're in the list of default keystrokes if you want this shortcut key to be available in all applications.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/5/2020 2:06 PM, Jasmine Kotsay wrote:

Hi,
There is also a way to change the setting so that instead of doing speech on demand when you press insert plus , then S. You have to go into the jaws settings and find speech options, and there is a setting there to be able to mute the speech for all apps when insert plus space is pressed.

On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:



I can answer the mute question.

Press insert+space, then s.

That puts it into Speech On Demand.  So, if you issue a reading command, it will read, otherwise it will stay silent.

That is a toggle, so do insert+space and then s again to go back to full speech.

 

I believe there are focus commands to navigate the computer, but you would need to get the Jaws documentation on using the Focus, and I do not know if that is in BRF anywhere.

You may want to call them.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stephanie
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: new to jaws after 10 years using a mac

 

 Hello all,

 

 I recently purchased my first windows pc for over ten years and have jaws 2020. I also have a Focus braille display. 

 

 First of all, is there a way of navigating the screen using the focus display? Switching between display and keyboard is quite annoying, or perhaps I just need to get used to it. Also, how do I mute the speech and then unmute it again when necessary. 

 

Lastly, is there a document, or book [in brf or word] with help on how to use jaws? I don't do well with audio and prefer a written reference if possible. 

 

Thank you so much for your help.

 

Steph  


moderated Re: Online dictionary recommendation

JM Casey
 

I got Wordweb. It’s ok for my phone but I would like entries/definitions with a bit more detail. The JAWS researchit function connects to wiktionary and it’s actually much better. I think Oxford has an app of some kind; not sure of screen-reader-friendliness though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Filpus
Sent: November 5, 2020 05:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Online dictionary recommendation

 

Hello Listers,

I’m looking for a good online, JAWS-friendly, dictionary. I use a Lenovo laptop PC, Windows 10, and the latest version of JAWS. Please recommend your favorite one. I’d prefer a free one if possible.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Online dictionary recommendation

Paul Filpus
 

Hello Listers,

I’m looking for a good online, JAWS-friendly, dictionary. I use a Lenovo laptop PC, Windows 10, and the latest version of JAWS. Please recommend your favorite one. I’d prefer a free one if possible.

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

Tim Ford
 

Control + shift + e is the command for older versions of Outlook.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

Jim:

 

Sorry, Don is correct.  The key stroke is control shift E.

 

Control Shift N is used to set up new folders in Windows 10 file explorer.

 

Sorry for the confusion.

 

Tom Behler

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

Control+shift+e

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

The subject line says it all. I am using jaws 2021 beta and windows ten. Jim


moderated Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

Tom Behler
 

Jim:

 

Sorry, Don is correct.  The key stroke is control shift E.

 

Control Shift N is used to set up new folders in Windows 10 file explorer.

 

Sorry for the confusion.

 

Tom Behler

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

Control+shift+e

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

The subject line says it all. I am using jaws 2021 beta and windows ten. Jim


moderated Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

Tom Behler
 

Jim:

 

Try control shift N.

 

That should set up the new folder for you, which you can name as you wish.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

The subject line says it all. I am using jaws 2021 beta and windows ten. Jim


moderated Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

Jim Rawls
 

Thanks kind sir. Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

Control+shift+e

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

The subject line says it all. I am using jaws 2021 beta and windows ten. Jim


moderated Re: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

Don Mauck
 

Control+shift+e

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: what is the key stroke for setting up new folders in outlook 2016?

 

The subject line says it all. I am using jaws 2021 beta and windows ten. Jim

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