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moderated Re: How to interact with the tree view of OneDrive Choose Folders dialog box

Dave Durber
 


David:
 
You forgot to mention the laptop keystroke for turning off the JAWS Touch cursor, which is, hold down the CAPS LOCK key, and tapping the semicolon key, twice quickly.
 
HTH
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: How to interact with the tree view of OneDrive Choose Folders dialog box

Hi Delaunay,
Unfortunately, screen readers are not reading the names of the items which you navigate the tree using the standard keystrokes.
You can work around this problem using Jaws' touch cursor, which is the equivalent of NVDA's object navigation. You can use the touch cursor to move the focus to the desired item in the tree, return to the PC cursor, and then use the normal keystrokes to open/close the item or check or uncheck it.
To switch to the touch cursor, press shift + numpad plus, or SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON if using the laptop keyboard layout. You can then navigate the tree using right/left arrow. Move to the item you want to have focus, and press Enter or Spacebar so that the item becomes the focus. Press numpad plus twice to return to using the PC cursor. You can then open/close the item or change whether it is checked. If you want to move the focus to another item, and interact with it, just go round this loop again.

David.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:13 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi all,

 

Some time ago, when I right-clicked on the OneDrive For Business icon in the systray of my windows 10 computer, I could open the Settings dialog box, then hit the “Choose folders” button. In the Choose folders dialog box, I could select/deselect the folders I wanted to synchronize on my local disk.

 

The folders were presented to me as a tree view. However, I don’t know how long ago this tree view is not rendered anymore by Jaws 2020.

 

I tried to work around this problem with an alternate screen reader. This other screen reader also renders the tree view as apparently empty. With this alternate screen reader, another navigation mode they call “object navigation” I can see the top folders of my OneDrive For Business space but it is quite uneasy to select/deselect them. In addition, I cannot figure out how to expand one element of the tree view, in other words, a folder in which I’d like to sync subfolders only, even though the screen reader says it is “collapsed”.

 

Does anyone know of another accessible way to synchronize some parts only of a OneDrive For Business space please?

 

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Chris D


moderated Re: What region am I in?

Mark
 

I found a partial answer. Insert + Shift + F1. However, this command presents the information in a very unfriendly way. If one was willing to wade through a long list, you could find out if the JAWS cursor was in a particular type of region.


moderated Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

tina sohl
 

Thanks Dan I'll keep them in mind.

On 11/1/20, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

We bought the Brother about 3 years ago and , at that time, the Brother
was nearly the same price as the Epson. I am talking about the middle of the
road inkjet printers. Not the low end that you often find at Wal-Mart.
Those often are inexpensive but use lots of ink.

The Brother is very good on ink and a quick check on the web found them
about the same price range again depending on model and such.

The Brother app is a little quirky but accessible on the I Phone.



Dan



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer









Dan, are those brother printers very expensive? how expensive are the
epson's you guys are talking about too. I know someone else mentioned Epson
I have a 5-year-old HP printer that works pretty well for me but I have
considered upgrading in the next couple of years well I still have a working
printer and can just choose to upgrade rather than the printer dying
hopefully. and I'm wondering how expensive these printers with buttons are.
hopefully the Android apps are as accessible as they are for everybody on
iOS the HP app seems to be. I grabbed it last night for my current printer
to play with it.







Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e.





-------- Original message --------

From: Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@gmail.com <mailto:danlongmore44@gmail.com>
Date: 11/1/20 11:29 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer



Hi,

Brother makes 3 in 1 printers with buttons. I use the Brother MFC DW. It
has a screen but most functions can be accomplished with the buttons and
numeric key pad. Brother can also be linked to your computer and the
software is fairly accessible. Also, has an app for your mobile device
which on the I Phone is easy to use. Again, Brother has the buttons and
does very well with low ink useage. Not the fastest but very good.



Dan



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Larry McMillan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer



Does anyone know of an accessible 3 in 1 printer? Today’s printers are
mostly digital with a flat screen for navigation. I need a flatbed surface
to scan my reading material. I can’t find any printers with buttons.

Thanks

Larry









moderated Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  We bought the Brother about 3 years ago and , at that time, the Brother was nearly the same price as the Epson. I am talking about the middle of the road inkjet printers.  Not the low end that you often find at Wal-Mart.  Those often are inexpensive but use lots of ink.

The Brother is very good on ink and a quick check on the web found them about the same price range again depending on model and such.

The Brother app  is a little quirky but accessible on the I Phone.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

 

 

 

 

Dan, are those brother printers very expensive? how expensive are the epson's you guys are talking about too. I know someone else mentioned Epson I have a 5-year-old HP printer that works pretty well for me but I have considered upgrading in the next couple of years well I still have a working printer and can just choose to upgrade rather than the printer dying hopefully. and I'm wondering how expensive these printers with buttons are. hopefully the Android apps are as accessible as they are for everybody on iOS the HP app seems to be. I grabbed it last night for my current printer to play with it.

 

 

 

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e.

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>

Date: 11/1/20 11:29 AM (GMT-07:00)

Subject: Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

 

Hi,

  Brother makes 3 in 1 printers with buttons.  I use the Brother MFC DW.  It has a screen but most functions can be accomplished with the buttons and numeric key pad.  Brother can also be linked to your computer and the software is fairly accessible.  Also, has an app for your mobile device which on the I Phone is easy to use.  Again, Brother has the buttons and does very well with low ink useage.  Not the fastest but very good.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry McMillan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

 

Does anyone know of an accessible 3 in 1 printer?  Today’s printers are mostly digital with a flat screen for navigation.  I need a flatbed surface to scan my reading material.  I can’t find any printers with buttons.

Thanks

Larry


moderated Re: update jaws

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  You can download and run 2021 anytime.  2021 and 2020 can both be on your system.  2021 will not overwrite 2020.  The 2021 beta will then update to the full version once released.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amir Shah
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 4:58 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: update jaws

 

Hi how do I update jaws 2020 to jaws 2021  and when can I update thanks           


moderated Re: update jaws

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

You will get a notification when ready. Eric said it would probably be the second week in November. You can get the public beta 2 of 2021 now from their web site. And beta  3 will be out this week.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 4:58 PM
Subject: update jaws

Hi how do I update jaws 2020 to jaws 2021  and when can I update thanks           


moderated update jaws

Amir Shah
 

Hi how do I update jaws 2020 to jaws 2021  and when can I update thanks           


moderated Re: using Jarte with JAWS

Mario
 

David, thanks for your help, it works now. BTW, got any other tips for using Jarte with JAWS and/(or NVDA)?

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2020, 11:35 AM
Subject: using Jarte with JAWS
Hello. I also ran into the problem where JAWS seemed to no longer
support cursor navigation in Jarte. You will be happy to know that there
is a very simple fix for this problem which is achieved by toggling the
state of enhanced edit support within the JAWS settings center. See my
blog post
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2020/10/08/jaws-tip-is-jaws-not-speaking-as-you-move-your-cursor-try-toggling-enhanced-edit-support/>for

detailed instructions for those who are not familiar with adjusting
options within Settings Center. However, going into Settings Center and
toggling Enhanced Edit support will definitely fix the problem.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/1/2020 11:27 AM, Mike B wrote:
Hi David,
What's the work around for NVDA?  Someone else is having problems with
Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite
government program.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Griffith <mailto:daj.griffith@gmail.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM
*Subject:* Re: using Jarte with JAWS

I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I
personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it
still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround.

David Griffith.

Sent from Mail
<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ba1c54c62954079648b08d87e831640%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637398448758656482%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iqYJ0PaGy0V%2BqYrOetwf3BJXgOEZ2FJSs9fopssRBTc%3D&reserved=0>

for Windows 10

*From: *Mario <mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com>
*Sent: *01 November 2020 01:21
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *using Jarte with JAWS

an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he

types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he

wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and

discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife

who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background,

but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background

be white?

what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if

he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct?

might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?


moderated Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

tina sohl
 




Dan, are those brother printers very expensive? how expensive are the epson's you guys are talking about too. I know someone else mentioned Epson I have a 5-year-old HP printer that works pretty well for me but I have considered upgrading in the next couple of years well I still have a working printer and can just choose to upgrade rather than the printer dying hopefully. and I'm wondering how expensive these printers with buttons are. hopefully the Android apps are as accessible as they are for everybody on iOS the HP app seems to be. I grabbed it last night for my current printer to play with it.



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e.


-------- Original message --------
From: Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Date: 11/1/20 11:29 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

Hi,

  Brother makes 3 in 1 printers with buttons.  I use the Brother MFC DW.  It has a screen but most functions can be accomplished with the buttons and numeric key pad.  Brother can also be linked to your computer and the software is fairly accessible.  Also, has an app for your mobile device which on the I Phone is easy to use.  Again, Brother has the buttons and does very well with low ink useage.  Not the fastest but very good.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry McMillan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

 

Does anyone know of an accessible 3 in 1 printer?  Today’s printers are mostly digital with a flat screen for navigation.  I need a flatbed surface to scan my reading material.  I can’t find any printers with buttons.

Thanks

Larry


moderated Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

Feliciano G
 

Hi,
I particularly like and recommend epson printers/all-in-one  as the epson software is accessible with screen readers.

Feliciano
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On Oct 31, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Larry McMillan via groups.io <macstantax@...> wrote:



Does anyone know of an accessible 3 in 1 printer?  Today’s printers are mostly digital with a flat screen for navigation.  I need a flatbed surface to scan my reading material.  I can’t find any printers with buttons.

Thanks

Larry


moderated Re: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  Brother makes 3 in 1 printers with buttons.  I use the Brother MFC DW.  It has a screen but most functions can be accomplished with the buttons and numeric key pad.  Brother can also be linked to your computer and the software is fairly accessible.  Also, has an app for your mobile device which on the I Phone is easy to use.  Again, Brother has the buttons and does very well with low ink useage.  Not the fastest but very good.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry McMillan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible 3 in 1 Printer

 

Does anyone know of an accessible 3 in 1 printer?  Today’s printers are mostly digital with a flat screen for navigation.  I need a flatbed surface to scan my reading material.  I can’t find any printers with buttons.

Thanks

Larry


moderated Re: using Jarte with JAWS

David Griffith
 

Many thanks for this David

David G.

               

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: D                avid Goldfield
Sent: 01 November 2020 16:35
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS

 

Hello. I also ran into the problem where JAWS seemed to no longer support cursor navigation in Jarte. You will be happy to know that there is a very simple fix for this problem which is achieved by toggling the state of enhanced edit support within the JAWS settings center. See my blog post for detailed instructions for those who are not familiar with adjusting options within Settings Center. However, going into Settings Center and toggling Enhanced Edit support will definitely fix the problem.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/1/2020 11:27 AM, Mike B wrote:

Hi David,

 

What's the work around for NVDA?  Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM

Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS

 

I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround.

David Griffith.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using Jarte with JAWS

 

an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he

types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he

wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and

discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife

who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background,

but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background

be white?

 

what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if

he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct?

 

might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Refresher course

Michael Massey
 

Mike.  As you have said, and I quote, “Thanks mui mucho!”  When you provided the steps, I thought, oh yeah, now I remember.  I got the keys I had disabled previously which were the escape key and the enter key.  I found the enter key listed under return/enter.  Wow!  There are 84 keys, whiw! Thanks again.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Refresher course

 

Michael,

 

Try going into the Settings Center default all applications with keystroke, Insert + 6, on the number row then press, Control, Shift + D.

 

Down arrow to, Keyboard closed, it's 17 of 26 and right arrow to open.

 

Down arrow to, General closed, and right arrow to open.

 

Down arrow to, Manage key labels..., and press the spacebar to open.  Do not press enter here, if you press enter it'll take you out of the Settings Center, so use the spacebar.

 

Find the key you want to change and tab 1 time to toggle for mute or speak.

 

When you're done tab to, Okay, press the spacebar tab to, Okay, again and press enter to save / close.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:39 AM

Subject: Refresher course

 

Hi.  I am in the same situation Mr. Rawls is in.  Anyway, when installing Windows updates on patch Tuesday on my desktop pc and laptop pc, the internet went down while my Hp laptop pc was installing the updates.  This caused the Windows 10 updates to become corrupted.  Numerous calls to the Microsoft disability answer desk did not solve the issue until the case was escalated.  Now Jaws is announcing keystrokes like enter and escape.  I have been poking around trying to remember how to disable those keystrokes from speaking.  Sorry if I misspelled your last name, Jim. 


moderated Re: What region am I in?

Mike B
 


Hi Mark,
 
Read all of the following and hopefully it'll help:
 
 Original Message 
From: JM Casey
Hi everyone.
I was recently talking to some people designing a website, and attempting to
describe the experience using a screen-reader. I explained about quick
navigation, the virtual cursor/buffer, and the various types of elements to
which a screen-reader can quickly position its reading cursor. Although I
have yet to talk to the actual developer, and I think he might have a
greater understanding of this, I was unable to adequately describe a
"region", and how navigating by regions, or quickly jumping to the "main
region", has become essential on, for example, my bank website, which is
full of junk. Essentially, nobody seemed very familiar with this idea of
"regions". 
I found this page:
https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/examples/landmarks/region.html
 
Which provides a decent explanation. I'm still only vaguely sure what aria
is, though.
 
Does anyone familiar with web-coding on the list feel like chiming in, I
wonder?
JM
 
From:
Roger Newell
OK, this is going to be a bit of a rant, but please read it all
because you will hopefully find it interesting and important.
 
About ten years ago, a new concept was invented. It was called Web
2.0. It isn't a new "version" of the web, but rather a new approach to
what the web is and what it can do. In the 1990s and early 2000s, the
web was simply a portal for reading and editing basic information, but
around 2008 or so, this began tochange with the advent of Facebook,
Twitter and more comprehensive websites. People started using the web
for everything from banking to advanced document creation to even
viewing and manipulating the files on other devices.
 
To keep up with this, The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) created
Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA). Many web developers saw
the need to use nonstandard controls on their websites. For example,
rather than having a button that advanced a user to a completely
different page to see information, they wanted to have controls that
expanded and collapsed different parts of a page. To let screen reader
users know exactly what they were seeing, ARIA can be used to tell the
screen reader and the blind user something like, "Hey. This is a
nonstandard control. Just think of it as a button and you'll be okay.
And by the way, right now, it's open, so there's more information to
see on this page." Web developers can use ARIA to give sections of
their pages custom region names. As an example, go to the Training
Downloads Page of the Freedom Scientific website.
 
A few years after ARIA came along, HTML5 (the latest version of the
markup language used to code websites) was released. This gave web
developers a lot of new semantic tools to play with because it was
hoped that they would use to identify different parts of their pages
so that one day, when AI would be advanced enough to read and
comprehend webpages themselves, they would be able to more easily
analyse websites using these semantic tags. Have you ever heard JAWS
say something like "article" or "content information"? There are also
tags for naming regions. These are some of the new tags in HTML5, but
be aware that sometimes JAWS does not speak the correct name for the
tag, which is one reason why JAWS is only somewhat
standards-compliant. In JAWS 2018, you have the ability to customize
what tags JAWS speaks aloud. To see this, go to Settings Center >
Web/HTML/PDF > Reading > Customize Web Verbosity Levels or something
like that.
 
So how do ARIA and HTML5 go together to announce regions? The answer
is that they often overlap. This page
(https://dequeuniversity.com/assets/html/jquery-summit/html5/slides/landmarks.html)
explains this in greater detail and may be of more use to the people
doing the web design. It is somewhat strange that we can access this
page as it is part of a paid course, but it came up in Google search
results.
 
So, to summarize, if at all possible, the web developers should
embrace both HTML5 and ARIA to make the most accessible website
possible.
 
Sorry for the long explanation.
Roger
 
From:
JM Casey
Thank you very much, Roger. No need to apologise; this was exactly the sort
of thing I needed to read. Thanks for the page reference as well; I will
show it to my contact and maybe she can pass it along to the developer. I
understand the concept of web 2.0 and HTML 5; it was just good to get all
this stuff clarified a bit, especially in the case of "aria". So thanks
again.
JM

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 6:50 AM
Subject: What region am I in?

I am on a webpage and bring up a list of links and then go to one of them.  Suddenly, I feel a bit lost. It would be helpful to know if I am in a main region, a complementary information region, or a footer region for example. Is there a JAWS command that will tell me that?


moderated Re: using Jarte with JAWS

David Griffith
 

No workaround needed for NVDA – it just works perfectly with Jarte as far as I can tell from my limited usage.

I just went to type a sample document and all was fine.

What I meant was that using NVDA was the workaround rather than trying to make Jaws work with Jarte properly.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: 01 November 2020 16:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS

 

Hi David,

 

What's the work around for NVDA?  Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM

Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS

 

I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround.

David Griffith.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using Jarte with JAWS

 

an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he

types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he

wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and

discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife

who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background,

but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background

be white?

 

what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if

he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct?

 

might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Refresher course

Mike B
 

Michael,
 
Try going into the Settings Center default all applications with keystroke, Insert + 6, on the number row then press, Control, Shift + D.
 
Down arrow to, Keyboard closed, it's 17 of 26 and right arrow to open.
 
Down arrow to, General closed, and right arrow to open.
 
Down arrow to, Manage key labels..., and press the spacebar to open.  Do not press enter here, if you press enter it'll take you out of the Settings Center, so use the spacebar.
 
Find the key you want to change and tab 1 time to toggle for mute or speak.
 
When you're done tab to, Okay, press the spacebar tab to, Okay, again and press enter to save / close.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:39 AM
Subject: Refresher course

Hi.  I am in the same situation Mr. Rawls is in.  Anyway, when installing Windows updates on patch Tuesday on my desktop pc and laptop pc, the internet went down while my Hp laptop pc was installing the updates.  This caused the Windows 10 updates to become corrupted.  Numerous calls to the Microsoft disability answer desk did not solve the issue until the case was escalated.  Now Jaws is announcing keystrokes like enter and escape.  I have been poking around trying to remember how to disable those keystrokes from speaking.  Sorry if I misspelled your last name, Jim. 


moderated Re: using Jarte with JAWS

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hello. I also ran into the problem where JAWS seemed to no longer support cursor navigation in Jarte. You will be happy to know that there is a very simple fix for this problem which is achieved by toggling the state of enhanced edit support within the JAWS settings center. See my blog post for detailed instructions for those who are not familiar with adjusting options within Settings Center. However, going into Settings Center and toggling Enhanced Edit support will definitely fix the problem.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/1/2020 11:27 AM, Mike B wrote:

Hi David,
 
What's the work around for NVDA?  Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS

I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround.

David Griffith.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using Jarte with JAWS

 

an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he

types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he

wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and

discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife

who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background,

but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background

be white?

 

what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if

he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct?

 

might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?

 

 

 

 

 



moderated Re: using Jarte with JAWS

Mike B
 


Hi David,
 
What's the work around for NVDA?  Someone else is having problems with Jaws & NVDA running Windows 10 with J2020.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: using Jarte with JAWS

I know that this is not particularly useful for a Jaws list but I personally found that Jarte has become unusable with Jaws. However it still works perfectly well with NVDA as a workaround.

David Griffith.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 01 November 2020 01:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using Jarte with JAWS

 

an acquaintance is using Jarte with JAWS 2020 on Windows 10, and when he

types, the letters are announced, but when he attempts to review what he

wrote, JAWS just says nothing. I asked him to do a few things, and

discovered pressing insert+homerow 5 announces black on black. his wife

who is sighted says that the lettering is black on a white background,

but the untyped area is blackish blue. shouldn't the untyped background

be white?

 

what needs to be done in order to have JAWS read what has been typed if

he needs to check what he typed or navigate to a misspelling to correct?

 

might there be some settings other than fiddling with the color settings?

 

 

 

 

 


moderated What region am I in?

Mark
 

I am on a webpage and bring up a list of links and then go to one of them.  Suddenly, I feel a bit lost. It would be helpful to know if I am in a main region, a complementary information region, or a footer region for example. Is there a JAWS command that will tell me that?


moderated Refresher course

Michael Massey
 

Hi.  I am in the same situation Mr. Rawls is in.  Anyway, when installing Windows updates on patch Tuesday on my desktop pc and laptop pc, the internet went down while my Hp laptop pc was installing the updates.  This caused the Windows 10 updates to become corrupted.  Numerous calls to the Microsoft disability answer desk did not solve the issue until the case was escalated.  Now Jaws is announcing keystrokes like enter and escape.  I have been poking around trying to remember how to disable those keystrokes from speaking.  Sorry if I misspelled your last name, Jim. 

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