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Re: Guide to the taskbar on Windows 10, May 2020 update
Steve Matzura
This looks *REALLY* GOOD! Thanks for posting it.
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On 10/30/2020 8:13 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Try this:
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Re: Outlook Rules
As the situations described clearly indicate, e-mail filtering occurs at multiple steps of the receiving process, and where something ends up often depends on "who gets to it first." In addition, and I'm glad Robin pointed this out, there are now (and have been for a while) feedback loops in and between e-mail service providers where the result of not all that many marking something as Junk/Spam ends up getting messages that are similar in the Junk/Spam filters of the e-mail service providers.
There was a huge problem with this (which seems to have subsided with user education, at least somewhat) with Groups.io messages being classified as spam because people were marking messages/topics they didn't like/want to see more of as spam, rather than using the Mute this Topic feature, and marking as spam was fed up to their email service providers and Groups.io eventually ended up on their Spam filtering lists. This was somewhat solved when various providers were contacted and informed that Groups.io was a subscription service only. No one gets random messages from this site, you have to sign up to receive them, so by definition they are not spam. Another thing is that in the age of IMAP and Exchange email protocols, where the vast majority of the filtering and all long term storage is intended to occur on the server side, not on a client's computer in their chosen e-mail client, filters should really be created on the email server via the web interface a given service provider gives for doing so. These, of course, vary by provider. This is particularly useful for avoiding different things being randomly classified differently, as all the classification is handled on the email server before you ever see the messages on your device(s). I wrote tutorial strictly related to Gmail about how to do this for Gmail: Creating IMAP Labels (Folders) and Filters for Gmail. If you're accessing your e-mail account(s) on multiple devices the best thing you can do is to set up server-side filtering. In the case of Groups.io e-mail, it's simple to set up a series of filters based on the square bracket enclosed group name that comes on the messages. It's also easy to set up a filter that uses the Groups.io domain in a From: address with a "never send to spam" designation, if that ends up being needed. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
Larry Gassman
They are. Larry
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 8:13 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
Yes, but apparently they are finally going to release an October public beta instead of the September one that has been out for at least a month.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Th epublic beta has been out I think for about a month now.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
In an interview Wednesday evening, Eric Damery said that jaws 2021 along with fusion and Zoom text 2021 will be released around mid November. There will be a public beta in the next couple of days but if you changes will occur from feedback of that public beta at the release. There will be additional updates in mid December and another one at the end of January. Updates will continue through 2021 around every six weeks. With each of these updates, there may be additional features at it Along with bug fixes.
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Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
Larry Gassman
Yes, that was public Beta 2. Number 3 should be out any day now. Larry
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 8:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
Th epublic beta has been out I think for about a month now.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
In an interview Wednesday evening, Eric Damery said that jaws 2021 along with fusion and Zoom text 2021 will be released around mid November. There will be a public beta in the next couple of days but if you changes will occur from feedback of that public beta at the release. There will be additional updates in mid December and another one at the end of January. Updates will continue through 2021 around every six weeks. With each of these updates, there may be additional features at it Along with bug fixes.
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Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
Richard Turner
Yes, but apparently they are finally going to release an October public beta instead of the September one that has been out for at least a month.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 8:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
Th epublic beta has been out I think for about a month now.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
In an interview Wednesday evening, Eric Damery said that jaws 2021 along with fusion and Zoom text 2021 will be released around mid November. There will be a public beta in the next couple of days but if you changes will occur from feedback of that public beta at the release. There will be additional updates in mid December and another one at the end of January. Updates will continue through 2021 around every six weeks. With each of these updates, there may be additional features at it Along with bug fixes.
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Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
Th epublic beta has been out I think for about a month now.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Joyce Feinberg
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 7:43 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available
In an interview Wednesday evening, Eric Damery said that jaws 2021 along with fusion and Zoom text 2021 will be released around mid November. There will be a public beta in the next couple of days but if you changes will occur from feedback of that public beta at the release. There will be additional updates in mid December and another one at the end of January. Updates will continue through 2021 around every six weeks. With each of these updates, there may be additional features at it Along with bug fixes.
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Re: Outlook Rules
Van Lant, Robin
You said the emails are going to your bulk folder. Do you mean the Junk folder or just to your inbox? If they are going to Junk, I’m thinking your email provider is flagging them as junk as they come in, so the Outlook rule doesn’t even have a chance to run on them before they’ve already gone to Junk. Can you go into your webmail for that account and be sure the JFW email is on the safe sender list? I have no problems with the JFW list in Outlook here on my company account, but I’m on an iPhone list on my personal account and sometimes individual emails from that will land in my inbox or in junk. I haven’t figured out all of the reasons, but sometimes it’s because someone else’s email service flagged the email, so when they reply to the list, my provider seems to think it’s still suspect.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Larry McMillan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 7:09 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Outlook Rules
I have Outlook 2016, Windows 10 and Jaws 2020 and I know how to create and manage rules. The problem is that I created a Jaws Group folder, but the only time the e-mails move over is when I create the rule at that moment. Any new group e-mails that come in remain in my bulk mail folder. I have called the Microsoft disability desk and they have no solution. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Larry This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Outlook Rules
Marie <magpie.mn@...>
I am glad to hear this from someone else, because it is odd and seems to be
something connected with the Jaws list alone.
I use Thunderbird and/or WLM rather than Outlook so it is not application
connected.
With WLM the rule works fine but on TB some of the posts go to my inbox and
some to the Jaws list folder and I have never been able to discover why these
posts differ. In my case, it is annoying and I keep trying to find a solution
but it is not too bad since the majority of the posts do go to the correct
folder. But like other things of this sort, I want to find out why it happens
and how to solve the problem.
By the way, I am running the latest Jaws 2020 and Win 10 2004. My email
provider is Gmail and I created the rule on the Gmail website rather than within
the email client.
Marie
From: Larry McMillan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 6:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook Rules I have Outlook 2016, Windows 10 and Jaws 2020 and I know how to create and manage rules. The problem is that I created a Jaws Group folder, but the only time the e-mails move over is when I create the rule at that moment. Any new group e-mails that come in remain in my bulk mail folder. I have called the Microsoft disability desk and they have no solution. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Larry
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Re: Voice assist on a laptop
Don Mauck
FYI for all, I’ve got Cisco Any connect running to do my job. However, when I disconnected the VPN, Voice assist actually worked correctly. Seems like the VPN was blocking JAWS from hitting whatever server it’s using. I’ve no Oracle doesn’t block very many if any other JAWS functions so I’m curious if I need to ask for a White list on a specific process/file or is this a known issue.
Regards:
Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 8:00 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Voice assist on a laptop
I understand that, in fact I can use that same microphone for Zoom calls and the like.
Regards:
Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)
From: Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
The laptop mike should work, check in your sound settings to be sure that the mic is selected as the input device. You can also run a test on the microphone through the sound settings
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Re: Voice assist on a laptop
Don Mauck
I understand that, in fact I can use that same microphone for Zoom calls and the like.
Regards:
Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)
From: Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 7:50 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Voice assist on a laptop
The laptop mike should work, check in your sound settings to be sure that the mic is selected as the input device. You can also run a test on the microphone through the sound settings
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Re: Voice assist on a laptop
Dan Longmore
The laptop mike should work, check in your sound settings to be sure that the mic is selected as the input device. You can also run a test on the microphone through the sound settings
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On Oct 30, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@...> wrote:
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Re: Setting Place Marker in Word not Workingq
David Kingsbury
Hi all,
Temporary placemarkers are used in Word for extended text selection. Press Control Windows K at the start of a selection and press Insert Spacebar together and then M at the end of the selection to highlight the extended text. It is very useful for highlighting large chunks of text and serves a different function than bookmarks, and as others said, you can only do a single temporary placemarker in Word while you can make them permanent on the web.
I am having the same problem. For some reason, doing the extended text selection works for me in some documents and not others. In those where it does not work, Alt tabbing away from and back to it does not help. I notice this with both JAWS 2020 and the 2021 beta.
David
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Re: Screen Shade Will Not Turn Off
Dan Longmore
Try running a repair, sounds like something got corrupted, because you were doing everything else right.
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On Oct 30, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Callum Stoneman via groups.io <callum.stoneman@...> wrote:
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Voice assist on a laptop
Don Mauck
Should my laptop microphone work with voice assist? Currently I get no response when I say “sharky,” even with the setting set to use that command. When I use the command as a single command, I‘m told “nothing was herd”.
Regards:
Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office | (APO)
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Screen Shade Will Not Turn Off
Callum Stoneman
Hi all,
I regularly use the screen shade while working to save battery on my laptop. However, occasionally I need to have a sighted person look at my screen either face to face or via a screen share on Teams (yes, the screen shade causes the screen to appear blank when sharing it as well).
Sometimes, when I go to turn my screen shade off, it just will not turn off at all and the screen remains black. It doesn’t matter whether I turn it off via the keyboard shortcut, the three finger triple-tap, the quick settings menu, nothing works. Even quitting JAWS entirely stops every other function of JAWS, apart from the screen shade. JAWS continues to announce, “Screen Shade off” or “Screen Shade on”, there are no errors. The only way I can get my screen back is to reboot the computer.
Anyone else experienced this and know of a way to avoid it happening?
I’ve checked my brightness and even turning this to 100% did not change anything, so I know it isn’t that my brightness is too low for anyone to see or anything like that.
I’m using Windows 10, the latest version of JAWS Professional 2020 and a Surface Pro 3 laptop I believe. Callum
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Outlook Rules
Larry McMillan
I have Outlook 2016, Windows 10 and Jaws 2020 and I know how to create and manage rules. The problem is that I created a Jaws Group folder, but the only time the e-mails move over is when I create the rule at that moment. Any new group e-mails that come in remain in my bulk mail folder. I have called the Microsoft disability desk and they have no solution. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Larry
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Re: How to interact with the tree view of OneDrive Choose Folders dialog box
David Bailes
Hi Delaunay,
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Unfortunately, screen readers are not reading the names of the items which you navigate the tree using the standard keystrokes. You can work around this problem using Jaws' touch cursor, which is the equivalent of NVDA's object navigation. You can use the touch cursor to move the focus to the desired item in the tree, return to the PC cursor, and then use the normal keystrokes to open/close the item or check or uncheck it. To switch to the touch cursor, press shift + numpad plus, or SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON if using the laptop keyboard layout. You can then navigate the tree using right/left arrow. Move to the item you want to have focus, and press Enter or Spacebar so that the item becomes the focus. Press numpad plus twice to return to using the PC cursor. You can then open/close the item or change whether it is checked. If you want to move the focus to another item, and interact with it, just go round this loop again. David.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:13 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:
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Re: Guide to the taskbar on Windows 10, May 2020 update
Ann Byrne
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At 03:59 AM 10/30/2020, you wrote:
How can I get a copy of that guide?
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Re: Guide to the taskbar on Windows 10, May 2020 update
David Bailes
Hi David,
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if you want to download the guide, when you are on a link to the guide, open its context menu, and choose either save link as or save target as, depending on which web browser you are using. David.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 08:59 AM, David Ingram wrote:
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How to interact with the tree view of OneDrive Choose Folders dialog box
Delaunay Christophe
Hi all,
Some time ago, when I right-clicked on the OneDrive For Business icon in the systray of my windows 10 computer, I could open the Settings dialog box, then hit the “Choose folders” button. In the Choose folders dialog box, I could select/deselect the folders I wanted to synchronize on my local disk.
The folders were presented to me as a tree view. However, I don’t know how long ago this tree view is not rendered anymore by Jaws 2020.
I tried to work around this problem with an alternate screen reader. This other screen reader also renders the tree view as apparently empty. With this alternate screen reader, another navigation mode they call “object navigation” I can see the top folders of my OneDrive For Business space but it is quite uneasy to select/deselect them. In addition, I cannot figure out how to expand one element of the tree view, in other words, a folder in which I’d like to sync subfolders only, even though the screen reader says it is “collapsed”.
Does anyone know of another accessible way to synchronize some parts only of a OneDrive For Business space please?
Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Chris D
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