Hi, Bill.

When I press control-shift-b, nothing seems to happen. I get no verbalization from JAWS, and I can't detect any change in behavior.

I'm relying on my favorites folder on the desktop to open Edge favorites, but I'd prefer to work from within Edge, if it's feasible.

Would you explain what I should look for when I press the shift-control-b command?

Thanks.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Amanda. The following two Edge shortcuts may be helpful to you, especially the latter.

Ctrl + Shift + B
Show or hide the favorites bar

Ctrl + Shift + O
Open Favorites management

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Amanda Berkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Edge with JAWS

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda

Hi, Bill.

When I press control-shift-b, nothing seems to happen. I get no verbalization from JAWS, and I can't detect any change in behavior.

I'm relying on my favorites folder on the desktop to open Edge favorites, but I'd prefer to work from within Edge, if it's feasible.

Would you explain what I should look for when I press the shift-control-b command?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Amanda. The following two Edge shortcuts may be helpful to you, especially the latter.

Ctrl + Shift + B
Show or hide the favorites bar

Ctrl + Shift + O
Open Favorites management

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Edge with JAWS

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda

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Hi all,

I heard that the new Fall 2020 build of Windows 10 came out last week. Do any of you know of any accessibility-related or other reasons NOT to download it yet?

Thanks,

David

On Oct 28, 2020, at 8:41 AM, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:



Hi all,

 

I heard that the new Fall 2020 build of Windows 10 came out last week. Do any of you know of any accessibility-related or other reasons NOT to download it yet?

 

Thanks,

David

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good afternoon: My assistant re-installed windows 10 and then Jaws 2018. Windows explorer is not set in the standard way that Jaws sets it, it's not reading file names and the like. Is this something that Jaws should do automatically or must I go into explorer and fix it? I certainly know how to do that, just surprised at what I'm seeing on the new install.

Thanks.

Justin,

After you enter the group name you should be presented with your list of contacts so you can highlight the ones you want in the group. The e-mail addresses must be in your contact list before you can create a group.

Ron & Danvers

Hello Group,

Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option.

I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time  to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.”

Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build  a group?

Best, Justin  

Hi List

When I open an Attachment in Protected View I get no response from any key stroke/s I make.  Alt-F etc does not respond at all.

Regards

Dean

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On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:

I think what I’m finding is all of the ways I can navigate quickly are not always available when they don’t test with jaws.

On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:58 PM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



This is a fair question. While there are occasionally some differences in the way that JAWS and NVDA conveys information about what's on a Web page it's reasonably safe to say that pages which pass a manual audit with NVDA would likely do so with JAWS. If anything, if they only tested with JAWS and not NVDA I'd actually be a bit more concerned due to the fact that JAWS has a tendency to guess what should be read with forms that may not properly conform to current standards. This is actually great for the user but can give false positives to the one doing the testing. As long as their code is properly written and marked up you should be OK.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org

On 10/27/2020 4:49 PM, Cynthia Bruce wrote:

Hi All,

 

In my current university context, I am teaching a course developed by a company that is external to the university. I keep running into things that are not easily accessible, and they have told me they are only testing accessibility with NVDA. So, my question, is it likely that I will find incompatibility with JAWS when they only test with NVDA?

 

Thanks for any info – I want to be able to give them some feedback.

 

Cynthia

Agree with Brian that the autocomplete doesn’t work as well as it did in the past, or at least in the way I would want it to. I find value in clearing out my autocomplete list at work if I’ve just done a project with a lot or random email addresses in int that I don’t normally use.  I do appreciate that autocomplete doesn’t’ pull in a large list of everyone in the exchange address book, as that would be a really long list for me., but I’m often surprised at how and when it pulls in familiar addresses I use regularly.  If I know an adders I have started to type is in my contacts or company address book, I’ll type a couple letters then use Control K to open the search dialog. It’s similar to the To: button Brian mentioned, but easier for me to access on the fly.  I’m not sure why Microsfot got rid of the old keyboard shortcut of alt period to jump to the To button.

Brian,

This was a fantastic read and explanation! I admire and appreciate the effort you put into this issue.

I will continue to experiment and if there is an clearer answer I will certainly share it. It is remarkable how companies may change a function in a product that ends up

Vaughn,

            Let me try to describe what I see happening under Outlook 2016.  There appears to be some interaction between "who I've sent or received an e-mail to/from before" and the Address Book when you type a name rather than all or just a distinctive part of an e-mail address.  Why this is, or how to change it, I cannot explain.

            I have never used Outlook to send a message to my partner, Jim.  However I have previously sent messages to another Jim and a Jill, too.  When I type the two characters Ji (note the capital J) I instantly get a dropdown list appearing with the other Jim and Jill, from which I can select either of the two, but my partners address does not appear.  

            Contrast that with what I get when I type the single character j (lower case).  What shows up is the two previously noted Jim and Jill, plus several additional e-mail addresses I've sent to before, all of which contain the letter j somewhere in them, but my partner's name and e-mail address is still not among the things shown.

             Now, I've gone and sent my partner a message using only his e-mail address, but not fetching anything from the Address book.  When I next go to create a new message and type j into the To field the first item in the list is now his e-mail address, followed by all the others, so most recently sent, and exactly what was used in the sending, is at the top of the list of options.

              Since doing all those tests, I opened Options when I was in the compose window, and activated the Empty Auto-Complete List.  After doing that, no e-mail addresses or names show up when I type a part or all of a name in the To field.  I can enter multiple names separated by semicolon.  If I hit Send, Outlook will begin asking me which address I want if there exists more than one for a given typed name, or just plugging in what's associated with it if there's one.

               So, after all of that, I can say I don't get anything in the auto-complete dropdown list that acts like what it appears you and I were used to in the past.  When I need to select names from my address book I activate the button for the To/CC/BCC fields and use search and select in the dialog that comes up, as I know a number of the addresses I want to use, and would think should pre-populate in that autocomplete list, are not doing so.

                The best explanation of how autocomplete works comes straight from the horse mouth:

Information about the Outlook AutoComplete list 

Note well in the statement, "The list contains SMTP addresses, LegacyExchangeDN entries, and display names for people to whom you have sent mail previously."  (emphasis mine).  

                 So, if you have just set up a new instance of Outlook, the building of the AutoComplete List starts from scratch (if you haven't imported a pre-existing one) so until you send messages to someone for the first time, they're not going to show up.

                  I find it odd that there isn't a use of the Address Book in generating the auto-complete list.  The article also goes into how you can import existing autocomplete lists from other Outlook instances, which I've never done.

                  Sorry for the length of this, but clearly autocomplete isn't what many of us think it should be.
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I find the favorites and edge almost unusable. I know they’re supposed to be
accessible, but half the time jaws won’t read the list box after tab and
tabs out his forms mode tab back hit forms mode tab back again it’s really
frustrating. A lot of people are putting their favorites folder from their
users account on a desktop and accessing their favorites that way.

Randy Barnett

On Oct 27, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Amanda Berkley <amanda1226@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your
favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see
anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping
someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda