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moderated Amazon Kindle books and best way to read

Jim Portillo
 

              Greetings,

 

I was gifted an eBook that someone really wants me to read. It’s an Amazon Kindle book. I seem to remember JAWS not doing well with such books a while back, but I don’t know if it has improved. What about on the iPhone? Is that any better?

If anyone has any advice on how to best read this eBook, please share your ideas.

Thanks much.

Jim

 


moderated Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Thank you, Bill. Helpful and precise, as your messages always are.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 2:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Adrian. You won't get any verbalization from JAWS. What CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B does is, if you SHIFT plus TAB once, you will see that it adds a Hidden Favorites button to the tool bar. If you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B again, it removes this button from the tool bar. The way to get to this tool bar is:

1. Open Edge to your Start Page.
2. Go to the top of the page.
3. Press SHIFT plus TAB.
4. If the Hidden Favorites toggle is on, there will be a Hidden Favorites button just before you SHIFT plus TAB to the Settings button.
5. If the Hidden Favorites toggle is off, all you will see when you SHIFT plus TAB is the Settings button.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Bill.

When I press control-shift-b, nothing seems to happen. I get no verbalization from JAWS, and I can't detect any change in behavior.

I'm relying on my favorites folder on the desktop to open Edge favorites, but I'd prefer to work from within Edge, if it's feasible.

Would you explain what I should look for when I press the shift-control-b command?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Amanda. The following two Edge shortcuts may be helpful to you, especially the latter.

Ctrl + Shift + B
Show or hide the favorites bar

Ctrl + Shift + O
Open Favorites management

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Edge with JAWS

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda


moderated Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Adrian. You won't get any verbalization from JAWS. What CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B does is, if you SHIFT plus TAB once, you will see that it adds a Hidden Favorites button to the tool bar. If you press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus B again, it removes this button from the tool bar. The way to get to this tool bar is:

1. Open Edge to your Start Page.
2. Go to the top of the page.
3. Press SHIFT plus TAB.
4. If the Hidden Favorites toggle is on, there will be a Hidden Favorites button just before you SHIFT plus TAB to the Settings button.
5. If the Hidden Favorites toggle is off, all you will see when you SHIFT plus TAB is the Settings button.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Bill.

When I press control-shift-b, nothing seems to happen. I get no verbalization from JAWS, and I can't detect any change in behavior.

I'm relying on my favorites folder on the desktop to open Edge favorites, but I'd prefer to work from within Edge, if it's feasible.

Would you explain what I should look for when I press the shift-control-b command?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Amanda. The following two Edge shortcuts may be helpful to you, especially the latter.

Ctrl + Shift + B
Show or hide the favorites bar

Ctrl + Shift + O
Open Favorites management

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Edge with JAWS

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda


moderated Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

That's exactly what I needed to know, Marten: the alt-shift-b command. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Adrian,

When the favorites bar is turned on, you can go to the favorites bar and access your favorites from there.

YYou can press alt-shift-b to set ffocus in the favorites bar if it is visable. If this does not work, press ctrl-shift-b again.

You can also go to this bar by pressing f6, but how many times f6 can
change:)

Regards, marten


On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:20:24 +0000 "Adrian Spratt" <adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:

Hi, Bill.

When I press control-shift-b, nothing seems to happen. I get no verbalization from JAWS, and I can't detect any change in behavior.

I'm relying on my favorites folder on the desktop to open Edge favorites, but I'd prefer to work from within Edge, if it's feasible.

Would you explain what I should look for when I press the shift-control-b command?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Amanda. The following two Edge shortcuts may be helpful to you, especially the latter.

Ctrl + Shift + B
Show or hide the favorites bar

Ctrl + Shift + O
Open Favorites management

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Amanda Berkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Edge with JAWS

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda

















moderated Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Adrian,

When the favorites bar is turned on, you can go to the favorites bar and
access your favorites from there.

YYou can press alt-shift-b to set ffocus in the favorites bar if it is
visable. If this does not work, press ctrl-shift-b again.

You can also go to this bar by pressing f6, but how many times f6 can
change:)

Regards, marten

On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:20:24 +0000 "Adrian Spratt" <adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:

Hi, Bill.

When I press control-shift-b, nothing seems to happen. I get no verbalization from JAWS, and I can't detect any change in behavior.

I'm relying on my favorites folder on the desktop to open Edge favorites, but I'd prefer to work from within Edge, if it's feasible.

Would you explain what I should look for when I press the shift-control-b command?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Amanda. The following two Edge shortcuts may be helpful to you, especially the latter.

Ctrl + Shift + B
Show or hide the favorites bar

Ctrl + Shift + O
Open Favorites management

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Edge with JAWS

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda

















moderated Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available

Shan Noyes
 

There are 3 improvements that I remember off the top of my head that I’m excited about in Jaws 2021.

 

  1. Improvement of auto reading of messages in outlook when they are opened.
  2. Improvements with Microsoft teams. Because my company uses it a lot especially since the majority of us are work from home these days.
  3. The ability to pull up a history of your windows notifications and deal with them.

Those are my top hitters.  The voice control input is kind of a cool idea, however, it seems a little slow to me in the demos I’ve heard.  So the jury for me is out on that item til more power is added and the time delay is shortened.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available

 

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Are there any real improvements in Jaws 2021 that will be worth the cost of updating?

On 10/27/2020 5:15 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:

Public beta 2 has been out now for about 3 weeks.  Either beta 3 or the final version should be within days.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available

 

Hi,

I’m running one of the jaws 2021 Vedas, and I’m not sure which one. I keep being told that my software is up-to-date. Have there been any new releases?

Thanks,

Jessica

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:13:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available

 

That is what I am hearing as well.

I would guess in very early November.

Beta three is in private beta now and will be released publicly very soon.

Find out more on Wednesday evening on Main Menu Live as we have Eric Damery with us in hour 1 to talk about JAWS and its release.

Brian Hartgen will be with us in Hour 2 to talk about the many things available to us from Leasey.

Larry Gassman

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 12:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: when hopefully JAWS2021 official release will be available

 

 

Hello,

   

I gave them at Fredom Scientific a call yesterday to see if maybe I could find out and a sales person said that sometime in the 1st or 2nd week of next month November, we will be able to download the oficial release copy of Jaws2021. Hopefully this is when we will be able to at the latest!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

jaws18 user Hank

 

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:31 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS2021

 

Yes, the exact minute FS announces it.

Sadly, these kinds of questions cannot be answered until the mother company says something.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:24 AM
To: JAWS <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS2021

 

Hi All,

Does anyone know when JAWS2021 is going to be released?

 

Andrew

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moderated Re: Accessible fax services with JAWS and Windows10

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Shai,

I use Metrofax and it works fine for me. Its accessible and does everything you listed as your wants. HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible fax services with JAWS and Windows10

Hello,
What are some accessible fax services for sending and receiving faxes with Windows10 and JAWS2020?
I am looking to send a fax by email to the number and receive it back by email as pdf.
Thank you in advance for any responses.


--
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Wolman technologies
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moderated Re: Fall 2020 Windows 10 Build

Pastor Gilbert Pries <gilp@...>
 

I downloaded it and installed it and it's working great.

Using Jaws 2020.

 

Pastor Gilbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2020 5:41 AM
To: 'JAWS Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Fall 2020 Windows 10 Build

 

Hi all,

 

I heard that the new Fall 2020 build of Windows 10 came out last week. Do any of you know of any accessibility-related or other reasons NOT to download it yet?

 

Thanks,

David

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Fall 2020 Windows 10 Build

Dan Longmore
 

I just got the new build and have had no issues with jaws. There are some known issues with some audio drivers but none that are major ones and you can check it out through the Windows website.


On Oct 28, 2020, at 8:41 AM, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:



Hi all,

 

I heard that the new Fall 2020 build of Windows 10 came out last week. Do any of you know of any accessibility-related or other reasons NOT to download it yet?

 

Thanks,

David

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Fall 2020 Windows 10 Build

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

I heard that the new Fall 2020 build of Windows 10 came out last week. Do any of you know of any accessibility-related or other reasons NOT to download it yet?

 

Thanks,

David

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Bill.

When I press control-shift-b, nothing seems to happen. I get no verbalization from JAWS, and I can't detect any change in behavior.

I'm relying on my favorites folder on the desktop to open Edge favorites, but I'd prefer to work from within Edge, if it's feasible.

Would you explain what I should look for when I press the shift-control-b command?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Edge with JAWS

Hi, Amanda. The following two Edge shortcuts may be helpful to you, especially the latter.

Ctrl + Shift + B
Show or hide the favorites bar

Ctrl + Shift + O
Open Favorites management

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Edge with JAWS

Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda


moderated Re: Re-install of Jaws 2018

JM Casey
 

To my knowledge, JAWS does not make any changes to File Explorer.

So, what information are you missing? Are you wanting to view “details”? With extensions on, or off? Those kinds of things are decided by the user. I believe extensionsa re hidden by default – a setting I’m certainly quick to change.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: October 27, 2020 05:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re-install of Jaws 2018

 

Good afternoon: My assistant re-installed windows 10 and then Jaws 2018. Windows explorer is not set in the standard way that Jaws sets it, it's not reading file names and the like. Is this something that Jaws should do automatically or must I go into explorer and fix it? I certainly know how to do that, just surprised at what I'm seeing on the new install.

Thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook

 

Justin,

 

After you enter the group name you should be presented with your list of contacts so you can highlight the ones you want in the group. The e-mail addresses must be in your contact list before you can create a group.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Creating a group in outlook

 

Hello Group,

Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option.

I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time  to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.”

Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build  a group?

 

Best, Justin  


moderated Re: Protected View issue

Dean Webb
 

Hi All

 

I have found the solution.

 

  1. Close all opened applications and then only open Microsoft Word
  2. Press Alt+F and then the letter T to bring up the Word Options dialog
  3. Press the letter T for Trust Center
  4. Tab to the Trust Center Settings... Button and press the spacebar
  5. Press the letter P for Protected View
  6. Tab 3 times to the option, Enable Protected View for Outlook attachments and press the spacebar to uncheck this option
  7. Press enter once and then press Escape
  8. Close Word and opne your email and try to access the attachment. If after pressing enter on the attachment, it places your focus on the Save button, press up arrow once to Open and then press enter

 

Regards

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: 27 October 2020 05:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Protected View issue

 

Dean,

Are you sure the attachment is opening in a Microsoft office program outside your email client?  To your point, if I have an attachment open and it’s in protected view, I can hit Insert T to read the title and it will announced that it’s in protected view, then use one of the methods like F6 to get to the bar where I can hit the enable editing button. The reason I ask is that there is an annoying setting in Outlook that will open attachments in “preview”, which is actually showing a preview of the attachment within Outlook and, in my recollection, that won’t read at all.  It’s typically the first context menu option if you right click the attachment and, quite possibly, a default setting in Outlook.  I recall having to make an adjustment in Outlook Options somewhere to disable the preview.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Webb
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 5:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Protected View issue

 

Hi List

 

When I open an Attachment in Protected View I get no response from any key stroke/s I make.  Alt-F etc does not respond at all.

 

Regards

 

Dean

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moderated Re: accessibility and on line courses

John Covici
 

I have seen this, try doing a lot of things with linode.com, they say
they have tested with nvda, but Jaws does not like the site at all.

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:23:20 -0400,
Cynthia Bruce wrote:

[1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
I think what I’m finding is all of the ways I can navigate quickly are not always available when they don’t test with jaws.
On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:58 PM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:


This is a fair question. While there are occasionally some differences in the way that JAWS and NVDA conveys information about what's on a Web page it's reasonably safe to say that pages which pass a manual audit with NVDA would likely do so with JAWS. If anything, if they only tested with JAWS and not NVDA I'd actually be a bit more concerned due to the fact that JAWS has a tendency to guess what should be read with forms that may not properly conform to current standards. This is actually great for the user but can give false positives to the one doing the testing. As long as their code is properly written and marked up you should be OK.





David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/27/2020 4:49 PM, Cynthia Bruce wrote:
Hi All,



In my current university context, I am teaching a course developed by a company that is external to the university. I keep running into things that are not easily accessible, and they have told me they are only testing accessibility with NVDA. So, my question, is it likely that I will find incompatibility with JAWS when they only test with NVDA?



Thanks for any info – I want to be able to give them some feedback.



Cynthia




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moderated Accessible fax services with JAWS and Windows10

Shai
 

Hello,
What are some accessible fax services for sending and receiving faxes
with Windows10 and JAWS2020?
I am looking to send a fax by email to the number and receive it back
by email as pdf.
Thank you in advance for any responses.


--
Shai Wolman
Wolman technologies
(619)894-6587
Providing training to children and adults that empowers them to be
productive and successful with their assistive technology/computing
tasks.
atvistech@gmail.com


moderated Re: Can the read Aloud voice be used in JAWS?

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

I’m sure you can that would just Google it. Find out which voice edges using and then select it.

Randy Barnett

On Oct 27, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:


I like the read aloud voice that MS Edge uses in read aloud, can this voice be used in JAWS?


moderated Re: accessibility and on line courses

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Hello,
Both NVDA and JAWS have single key navigation and unless you are using flowto or main region quick nav then NVDA has pretty much the same quick navigation keys. I don’t believe however that web developers who are told to turn on a screen reader and see if everything talks would know  these commands unless they review one of the tutorials on an accessibility web site or employ disabled people.
Most training courses   I have experienced have the other difficulty that they like to use animations on screen to demonstrate how to do something. Generally, these animations show up to screen readers as either a large graphic or a flash movie. It is possible to add accessibile elements that mirror the animated information, but this is generally only done when the required by the contract.
Best Wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
 

On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:

I think what I’m finding is all of the ways I can navigate quickly are not always available when they don’t test with jaws.


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:58 PM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



This is a fair question. While there are occasionally some differences in the way that JAWS and NVDA conveys information about what's on a Web page it's reasonably safe to say that pages which pass a manual audit with NVDA would likely do so with JAWS. If anything, if they only tested with JAWS and not NVDA I'd actually be a bit more concerned due to the fact that JAWS has a tendency to guess what should be read with forms that may not properly conform to current standards. This is actually great for the user but can give false positives to the one doing the testing. As long as their code is properly written and marked up you should be OK.



David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
www.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/27/2020 4:49 PM, Cynthia Bruce wrote:

Hi All,

 

In my current university context, I am teaching a course developed by a company that is external to the university. I keep running into things that are not easily accessible, and they have told me they are only testing accessibility with NVDA. So, my question, is it likely that I will find incompatibility with JAWS when they only test with NVDA?

 

Thanks for any info – I want to be able to give them some feedback.

 

Cynthia



moderated Re: Outlook Address book

Vaughn Brown
 

Thank you for the suggestion.

 

Vaughn

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Address book

 

Agree with Brian that the autocomplete doesn’t work as well as it did in the past, or at least in the way I would want it to. I find value in clearing out my autocomplete list at work if I’ve just done a project with a lot or random email addresses in int that I don’t normally use.  I do appreciate that autocomplete doesn’t’ pull in a large list of everyone in the exchange address book, as that would be a really long list for me., but I’m often surprised at how and when it pulls in familiar addresses I use regularly.  If I know an adders I have started to type is in my contacts or company address book, I’ll type a couple letters then use Control K to open the search dialog. It’s similar to the To: button Brian mentioned, but easier for me to access on the fly.  I’m not sure why Microsfot got rid of the old keyboard shortcut of alt period to jump to the To button.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Address book

 

Brian,

 

This was a fantastic read and explanation! I admire and appreciate the effort you put into this issue.

 

I will continue to experiment and if there is an clearer answer I will certainly share it. It is remarkable how companies may change a function in a product that ends up

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook Address book

 

Vaughn,

            Let me try to describe what I see happening under Outlook 2016.  There appears to be some interaction between "who I've sent or received an e-mail to/from before" and the Address Book when you type a name rather than all or just a distinctive part of an e-mail address.  Why this is, or how to change it, I cannot explain.

            I have never used Outlook to send a message to my partner, Jim.  However I have previously sent messages to another Jim and a Jill, too.  When I type the two characters Ji (note the capital J) I instantly get a dropdown list appearing with the other Jim and Jill, from which I can select either of the two, but my partners address does not appear.  

            Contrast that with what I get when I type the single character j (lower case).  What shows up is the two previously noted Jim and Jill, plus several additional e-mail addresses I've sent to before, all of which contain the letter j somewhere in them, but my partner's name and e-mail address is still not among the things shown.

             Now, I've gone and sent my partner a message using only his e-mail address, but not fetching anything from the Address book.  When I next go to create a new message and type j into the To field the first item in the list is now his e-mail address, followed by all the others, so most recently sent, and exactly what was used in the sending, is at the top of the list of options.

              Since doing all those tests, I opened Options when I was in the compose window, and activated the Empty Auto-Complete List.  After doing that, no e-mail addresses or names show up when I type a part or all of a name in the To field.  I can enter multiple names separated by semicolon.  If I hit Send, Outlook will begin asking me which address I want if there exists more than one for a given typed name, or just plugging in what's associated with it if there's one.

               So, after all of that, I can say I don't get anything in the auto-complete dropdown list that acts like what it appears you and I were used to in the past.  When I need to select names from my address book I activate the button for the To/CC/BCC fields and use search and select in the dialog that comes up, as I know a number of the addresses I want to use, and would think should pre-populate in that autocomplete list, are not doing so.

                The best explanation of how autocomplete works comes straight from the horse mouth:

Information about the Outlook AutoComplete list 

Note well in the statement, "The list contains SMTP addresses, LegacyExchangeDN entries, and display names for people to whom you have sent mail previously."  (emphasis mine).  

                 So, if you have just set up a new instance of Outlook, the building of the AutoComplete List starts from scratch (if you haven't imported a pre-existing one) so until you send messages to someone for the first time, they're not going to show up.

                  I find it odd that there isn't a use of the Address Book in generating the auto-complete list.  The article also goes into how you can import existing autocomplete lists from other Outlook instances, which I've never done.

                  Sorry for the length of this, but clearly autocomplete isn't what many of us think it should be.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

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moderated Can the read Aloud voice be used in JAWS?

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


I like the read aloud voice that MS Edge uses in read aloud, can this voice be used in JAWS?


moderated Re: Using Edge with JAWS

David Moore
 

Yes there is! Hold down the control and shift and tap o. That brings up the favorites manager where you can see your favorites and organize them into folders. David Moore


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 5:40 PM Amanda Berkley <amanda1226@...> wrote:
Hey ya'll,

I recently gave up the IE ghost, and find Edge to be useable.


I was wondering, is there a keystroke or an easy way to access your
favorites? For example, in IE, it was alt+a... but I don't see
anything like that in Edge. I use my favorites a lot, so was hoping
someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,
Amanda





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