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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Richard Turner
Sadly, I know that far too well, grin.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 10:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 01:26 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 01:26 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I must have something set up oddly, which will not surprise me.- Richard, And bless you for knowing and identifying this situation as something idiosyncratic to your setup, because it has to be. You could try running a repair install on Office 365 and see if that fixes the issue. It often will. Far too many insist when "something odd" is happening that it must be a bug or otherwise due to external causes. In the computing world when you get "odd man out" behaviors like this they are almost always due to something idiosyncratic to the computer on which they're occurring. Real bugs hit a huge number of users in the same way. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Outlook Addressbook
My guess is that this is controlled by which account is set as your primary/default account if you have multiple accounts set up in Outlook.
Try ALT+F,I,S,A (File Tab, Account Info, Account Settings dropdown, Account settings item). At this point the account settings dialog will appear, and I'm going to presume you're familiar with it. Take a cruise through the account list and see if the one currently set as default is that Exchange account. If you then change the default account to Gmail it's likely to use the repositories associated with that as "first port of call." -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Outlook Addressbook
Vaughn Brown
Hello,
I am running Win. 10 with Office 365 and JFW 2020. My Outlook keeps using the MS Exchange account for pulling up my University email addressbook.
How do I default to Gmail as a server and to download address books from my Gmail accounts?
Thank you,
Vaughn
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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 10:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook
I already posted them, but I’d also check out Brian Vogel’s link. What I do after creating the group name, is press alt+h, then m. That activates the add members. Unlike others, I have little success arrowing up and down through the list of contacts, but you can search for contacts and add them. I’m sure results will vary as not everyone has the same outlook configuration.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi Richard, if you can get the key strokes to select the contact that would be great. This is just driving many of us crazy. Thanks so much andy and Shubert rip
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I think you need to tab to the ad members button I'll look up the keystrokes when I'm back on my computer.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Richard Turner
Yes Brian, I agree with you. I’ve tried using your keystrokes and I just get the default beep after alt+h. I’m using Office 365 Outlook 2016 and after creating the name of the group, after alt+h no matter what letter I press, I get the sound that says “sorry, you cannot do that,” i.e. the default beep.
I must have something set up oddly, which will not surprise me. I have to just tap the alt key and arrow or tab to get to the add members button, which gives the shortcut you list, but I cannot do it just using the keys… Very odd. I’m fine with the way I do it as it works, it ends up just being different.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 10:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:43 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:43 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:
The e-mail addresses must be in your contact list before you can create a group.- This is incorrect and needs to stop being repeated. You can put entries from Address Book, Contacts, or New Email Addresses into any contact group. I honestly think I must be talking to the air most of the time when I post step-by-step instructions that cover exactly what to do and they're ignored, and the same things that have been discussed or corrected are brought up again, hours to days later, because reading through an entire topic before adding to it is not being done. Members, please read through a topic to determine what's been said by everyone before you add your own next message to it. It prevents repetition, for one thing. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: is there a way to delete messages with the same subject all at once?
John Skyner
Hi Jim
Control and delete key will delete all messages in that particular thread. After you perform this command arrow once up and down to make sure Jaws has refreshed the email you are on. Cheers
John
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jim Rawls via groups.io
Sent: 21 October 2020 21:37 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: FW: is there a way to delete messages with the same subject all at once?
From:
jazzpiano@... <jazzpiano@...>
Hi all, I am using outlook 2019, and many times I see a message that I'm uninterested in, and it has several responses to the original post. Can I delete these messages all at once to take them out of the in box? I am running jaws 21 beta on a windows ten machine. Jim
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Richard Turner
I already posted them, but I’d also check out Brian Vogel’s link. What I do after creating the group name, is press alt+h, then m. That activates the add members. Unlike others, I have little success arrowing up and down through the list of contacts, but you can search for contacts and add them. I’m sure results will vary as not everyone has the same outlook configuration.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook
Hi Richard, if you can get the key strokes to select the contact that would be great. This is just driving many of us crazy. Thanks so much andy and Shubert rip
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I think you need to tab to the ad members button I'll look up the keystrokes when I'm back on my computer.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Richard Turner
Actually, you have a choice of adding a new email address to the group and then also add it to your contacts.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook
Justin,
After you enter the group name you should be presented with your list of contacts so you can highlight the ones you want in the group. The e-mail addresses must be in your contact list before you can create a group.
Ron & Danvers
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Hello Group, Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option. I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.” Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build a group?
Best, Justin
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Re: bluetooth question
Dan Longmore
Hi, It is harder to connect some blue tooth headphones with laptops than a phone. Try having your laptop search for devices under the blue tooth setting. Sometimes the headphones are discovered under a weird name. You may need to try the search a couple of times . Try turning off and then on the blue tooth settings on your laptop to see if this initiates a new search. I have also found that Bluetooth headphones, depending on brand, are not as reliable as with a phone.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 11:56 AM To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io> Subject: bluetooth question
Hi, I’ve used Bluetooth earphones with my iPhone, but not with a laptop the headphone jack on my work laptop seems to be not working. I’m not finding any plug in earbuds or headphoens in my house that will work so I can hear JAWS. I thought I could try pairing the earpiece I use with my iPhone. I turned off the Bluetooth connection on my iPhone and turned on Bleutooth in the laptop; however, I don’t see the earpiece showing up in the list, even though my earpiece is in pairing mode. Am I going about this the correct way? Should a basic, Bluetooth earpiece that works with an iPhone also work with a laptop or is there a difference? I think this is a Plantronics earpiece, but I’m not positive. It’s possible my company has some security restriction on Bluetooth, but I dread calling our helpdesk to ask.
Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank 720-304-1060
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Ron Pelletier
Justin,
After you enter the group name you should be presented with your list of contacts so you can highlight the ones you want in the group. The e-mail addresses must be in your contact list before you can create a group.
Ron & Danvers
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:16 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Creating a group in outlook
Hello Group, Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option. I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.” Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build a group?
Best, Justin
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi Richard, if you can get the key strokes to select the contact that would be great. This is just driving many of us crazy. Thanks so much andy and Shubert rip
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 10:04 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Creating a group in outlook
I think you need to tab to the ad members button I'll look up the keystrokes when I'm back on my computer.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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Re: JAWS speaks random characters as I type
Mike B
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Hi Jim,
I wonder if that could be the predictive search
feature that some browsers have?
Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers & Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
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From: Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:03 AM
Subject: JAWS speaks random characters as I type JAWS 2020 (August build) Windows 10 2004 fully patched, but not running 20H2. This problem is mostly seen in Edge (Chromium and up to date), but does occur at times in other applications. JAWS speaks random characters as I type. For example I can type the letter “A” but JAWS will speak another character, not necessarily a letter, it can be a number or symbol. Even if I type the same letter a second or third time JAWS will continue to speak random characters. What is actually being typed is the actual letter I am pressing. This is a fresh install of Windows 10 and besides the drivers from Dell the only other software installed is Office 365. The machine is not cluttered up with dozens of installs nor is the registry cluttered with the bits of uninstalled apps. I need to unload JAWS and reload it to fix the issue. Dell blames Vispero. Vispero blames Microsoft and of course Microsoft blames them both and tells me to purchase a Surface and run Narrator. Also, in Edge if I use the letter “H” to move by headings I will often get error messages saying that I am pressing the incorrect key, or I will get messages like “There are no frames on the page” or “There are no buttons on the page”. The laptop is new (May of this year) and I am fairly new to JAWS, but not computers or screen readers. On a side note I am running Win10 ((build 2004), JAWS 2020 (August release) as a VM on my Mac Book and I don’t have this issue. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has seen this issue. TIA, Jim Weiss jimweiss72@... “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” | Plato
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
And for those that may want the updated and comprehensive step-by-step instructions for
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:44 AM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
The only real downside to creating groups in outlook is that a person in your group has to be a contact. In other words, you cannot just type a bunch of email addresses into the group.- Robin, Actually, the addresses can be added without being in either Contacts or Address book. In the instructions for creating a Contact Group that I referenced earlier, I omitted that option since it's not often used. At Step number three, you actually have three different options, and I only discussed two. All three start with the keyboard sequence ALT+H,M followed by: A - If you wish to add an existing Address Book entry to the group C - If you wish to add an existing Contact to the group E - If you wish to add a random email address that's in neither of the above to the group (New email contact in the submenu). If you do an ALT+H,M,E you are presented with a dialog box containing the following, in order: Display Name edit box email address edit box email type box, defaults to SMTP, almost never changed Custom type button, affiliated with the email type edit box, almost never activated Internet Format dropdown box, which defaults to, Let Outlook decide the best sending format, but which also has the options, Send plain text only, and, Send using Outlook rich text format Checkbox, Add to contacts, which is checked by default The typical OK and Cancel button pair at the bottom Admittedly, you can't enter a long string of comma or semicolon separated "unknown" email addresses this way, but you can add each one by one and decide whether or not you want what you enter added to contacts or not as part of that process. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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JAWS speaks random characters as I type
Jim Weiss
I have been encountering this issue for a while now and I was wondering if anyone else has had this experience.
JAWS 2020 (August build) Windows 10 2004 fully patched, but not running 20H2. This problem is mostly seen in Edge (Chromium and up to date), but does occur at times in other applications. JAWS speaks random characters as I type. For example I can type the letter “A” but JAWS will speak another character, not necessarily a letter, it can be a number or symbol. Even if I type the same letter a second or third time JAWS will continue to speak random characters. What is actually being typed is the actual letter I am pressing. This is a fresh install of Windows 10 and besides the drivers from Dell the only other software installed is Office 365. The machine is not cluttered up with dozens of installs nor is the registry cluttered with the bits of uninstalled apps. I need to unload JAWS and reload it to fix the issue. Dell blames Vispero. Vispero blames Microsoft and of course Microsoft blames them both and tells me to purchase a Surface and run Narrator. Also, in Edge if I use the letter “H” to move by headings I will often get error messages saying that I am pressing the incorrect key, or I will get messages like “There are no frames on the page” or “There are no buttons on the page”. The laptop is new (May of this year) and I am fairly new to JAWS, but not computers or screen readers. On a side note I am running Win10 ((build 2004), JAWS 2020 (August release) as a VM on my Mac Book and I don’t have this issue. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has seen this issue. TIA, Jim Weiss jimweiss72@icloud.com “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” | Plato
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bluetooth question
Van Lant, Robin
Hi, I’ve used Bluetooth earphones with my iPhone, but not with a laptop the headphone jack on my work laptop seems to be not working. I’m not finding any plug in earbuds or headphoens in my house that will work so I can hear JAWS. I thought I could try pairing the earpiece I use with my iPhone. I turned off the Bluetooth connection on my iPhone and turned on Bleutooth in the laptop; however, I don’t see the earpiece showing up in the list, even though my earpiece is in pairing mode. Am I going about this the correct way? Should a basic, Bluetooth earpiece that works with an iPhone also work with a laptop or is there a difference? I think this is a Plantronics earpiece, but I’m not positive. It’s possible my company has some security restriction on Bluetooth, but I dread calling our helpdesk to ask.
Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank 720-304-1060
This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Creating a group in outlook
Van Lant, Robin
I create groups just fine. Thankfully, JAWS now reads the group members list for me as I arrow up and down. As others have said, you do need to go to the ribbon to hit the add members button. A submenu opens where you choose where you want to search for members. You’ll be looking in Outlook contacts, if this is a personal email account. If you are at a company, you’d likely be adding from the Address Book. The only real downside to creating groups in outlook is that a person in your group has to be a contact. In other words, you cannot just type a bunch of email addresses into the group.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:16 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Creating a group in outlook
Hello Group, Up until recently, I had no real reason to create groups from my Contacts using Outlook. However, at this point, I’m involved with a number of activities within my community where this feature is something that would be convenient as a contact option. I had spoken with Bill White about this and rather to use the ribbon commands, he suggested using Control/Shift/L where I create a group name. After identifying a group name, I tabbed one time to the Members Table field, arrowing down to identify contacts to fill the group. At this point, I received a message that “Members list table is unavailable.” Am I on the right track, or it there another way to build a group?
Best, Justin This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Question About Excel
R&J
From time to time I have this issue and have tried many things to correct it. Sometimes they work and sometimes they do not work. Please try the following:
1. Go to the "VIEW" menu and zoom in or out. 75% and 100% seem to be the best zoom sizes. 2. Press alt+space bar and try "Restore" if the window is maximized or try "Max" if the window is not maximized. 3. Press insert+Escape or try insert+ctl+Escape to reset the JAWS scripts. 4. If push comes to shove, I kill JAWS and restart it. Most of the time, one of these methods will correct the problem. Ron
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Re: Access to the NextDoorsite
Richard Turner
I just tried it after signing up. I was able to hear the subject field and the message field after hitting the compose button in the messages list with both Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 beta. I’m using the new Chromium Edge. Maybe try that and see if it works better.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Live long and prosper 🖖
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 6:25 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Access to the NextDoorsite
Hello Group,
For a number of years, I have been a member of the Nextdoor.com neighborhood site, specific to my immediate neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods. Until recently, I have been able to post messages to the site which I attempted to do e arlier this morning. However, as soon as I opened the message link, and tabbed to the subject field, Jaws stopped speaking. Nonetheless, I tabbed to the message body field and began composing a message. Again, JAWS was silent, so I could not read the content of what I was writing. I have been using Google Chrome for a couple of months. Could this be a Google issue, or do I need to do a JAWS repair, try a different browser or is Nextdoor no longer accessible as it has been, necessitating bringing this to their attention. I would guess that some of the US members have and do use this site. Any help is appreciated.
Peace to all, Justin
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