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moderated Re: FW: is there a way to delete messages with the same subject all at once?

 

And the straight delete function will delete all existing messages in a conversation if the "parent/root" message is selected, whether the conversation is expanded or not.

When I select a root message in a conversation, and hit delete, I get a dialog box that says, "Delete applies to all items in this folder that are part of the conversation," with a checkbox for "Don't show this message again," and Delete selected messages and Cancel buttons.

This presumes, of course, that conversation view is in use.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Smart Navigation Mode

clarence carter
 

I notice that Smart Navigation mode does not work in some HTML E-mails in Outlook. 

 

I have to move out of the E-mail and go back to get it to work. Then there are times when it works with no problem. I have it set to controls and tables.

 

Any ideas?


moderated Re: using Power Chute with JAWS

Glenn / Lenny
 

Mine uses a standard type at one end, and the block shaped type at the
other, like what would plug into a printer.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: using Power Chute with JAWS


is the USB cable standard (and can get one from whom ever sells one) or
is it propriatary, therefore I will have to check with APC?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 4:10 PM
Subject: using Power Chute with JAWS

It wasn't all that accessible, but it can give you some useful info if
you need to know things like when your last ups event was and the like.


On 10/21/2020 14:09, Mario wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a significant benefit in installing and
using the Power Chute Personal Edition program for a user to access an
APC UPS's features? and if so, if it is accessible with JAWS and/or NVDA?

I am inclined to plug in the UPS, computer and peripherals, and let it
do it's job without using the PCPE.










.


moderated Re: using Power Chute with JAWS

Mario
 

is the USB cable standard (and can get one from whom ever sells one) or is it propriatary, therefore I will have to check with APC?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@earthlink.net]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 4:10 PM
Subject: using Power Chute with JAWS

It wasn't all that accessible, but it can give you some useful info if
you need to know things like when your last ups event was and the like.


On 10/21/2020 14:09, Mario wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a significant benefit in installing and
using the Power Chute Personal Edition program for a user to access an
APC UPS's features? and if so, if it is accessible with JAWS and/or NVDA?

I am inclined to plug in the UPS, computer and peripherals, and let it
do it's job without using the PCPE.










.


moderated Changing up and down keys

Mark
 

I'd like to make the up arrow become the key to move the virtual pc towards the end of page and the down arrow to be move it towards the start of the page. How can I do that?


moderated Re: FW: is there a way to delete messages with the same subject all at once?

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Current versions of Outlook usually have a "ignore function that will delete the conversation and move replies to that conversation to some place other than the Inbox. I don't remember if Ignore /mute functionality in Outlook is configurable (Sorry too many mail clients). But for me it shows up as the first item in the home ribbon when reading a message.


moderated Re: drag and drop on a laptop

Mike B.
 

Hi Cynthia,
 
The laptop keystroke for Drag and Drop is, Caps Lock, Shift + 8 on the number row.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:13 PM
Subject: drag and drop on a laptop

Hi All,

 

I am using JAWS 2020, and I am doing research ethics modules through the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. In the first quiz, and undoubtedly in others, it listed 3 possible responses that it wanted me to rank using drag and drop to reorder them.

 

When I look up the key strokes for that, it uses the num pad key, but I don’t have that on a laptop. Any advice about how to accomplish this? It seems I now also need that key to turn on the JAWS curser.

 

Many thanks for any help you can provide.

 

Cynthia

 


moderated Re: braille display with jaws

JM Casey
 

Some dots not fully dropping does seem normal to me for braille displays. A lot of things seem to interfere with the action of the pins -- and of course being in contact with human skin flakes and moisture all the time while in use can't help.

The alva might still be made to work. You may be able to find a driver for it or set another display in settings that will be similar enough that the Alva and computer can still communicate. I was able to get a pretty old Brailliant 80 (I think that's what it's called) to work even though it didn't show up in the list of compatible displays. I had to download a driver from the internet and unfortunately it came with some adware. Wasn't expecting that from a braille display driver. Luckily it was just an annoying ad screen that would pop up every so often, and malwarebytes got rid of it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: October 20, 2020 05:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

I will remember that next time if there is a next time, lol! I had to wait a little over a week to return the device and I did go through the process of exercising the pins and didn't help.
You would have thought this would have been caught at the company before it was sent out but of course it was only a dot 1 in only one cell. I have noticed that sometimes dots stay up when shutting down the device and I have to turn it back on and shut it down again to make the dots drop. I wish I could use my alva model abt80 that's 23 years old but it is no longer supported by jaws.
Legend has it that on Tuesday 10/20/2020 10:55 AM, Richard Turner said:
----------------------------------------
It is pretty standard that you pay for shipping to a company, but they
will cover the shipping back since it is under warranty.
I recommend sending things via Priority Mail through the US post office.

It is much cheaper than FedEx or UPS and you can track the package etc.
I hope you communicate with them before sendning it in and had done all
the steps to exercise the pins and generate the log files to send
them....



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,â€&#65533; and we forget that only grace can break the
cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I
have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once
regretted extending it.)"Â - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🭭

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

hmmm, I purchased an orbit reader 20 plus a couple of months ago and
didn't have one week and I had to send it back because one dot in cell
15 wasn't lifting. cost me to send it back.
I wished I had had the funds to purchase the new 40 cell unit from APH, lol!


Legend has it that on Monday 10/19/2020 08:41 AM, Sharon said:
----------------------------------------

My orbit has had to be fixed at least four times:

Missing dots.

Bad motor.

Dots staying up even when machine is off.

Inability to turn machine on.

Probably have spent more fixing it than it cost in the first place!





From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Ismail
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws



Hi Richard,



Thanks for this. this is really helpful.



I̢۪ll bl be looking more into these.



Best wishes,



Ali



From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
<<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: 19 October 2020 03:46
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws



Ali,

Orbit Research will be releasing a 40 cell display very soon. Their
20 cell is quite good. The 40 will cost about $1400.

Freedom Scientific sells their Focus 40 5th jeneration display for
around $2800.

Humanware and The American Printing House for the blind have released
their Mantis 40 cell display that has a TWERTY Keyboard instead of a
braille keyboard for around $2500.

HIMS has the QBraille 40 that I believe is about $3200.

I hope that helps you get started.









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,â€&#65533; and we forget that only grace can break the
cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I
have regretted not granting grace to others, I̢۪ve never once
regretted ex extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Ali Ismail
<<mailto:haydaraliismail90@gmail.com>haydaraliismail90@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi everyone,



I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate
to be addressed in here.



I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I
could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?



I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille.
Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I
still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As
braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect
when reading electronic text in braille.



I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.



With the best of wishes,



Ali



----------------------------------------







----------------------------------------


moderated Re: drag and drop on a laptop

 

Cynthia,

             Take a look at the Quick Commands Reference (or whatever JAWS calls it, and it will be obvious) in the JAWS Help menu.  I don't know of a single JAWS command that does not have both a desktop (or laptop that has a number pad, which one generally uses desktop keyboard layout with) and a laptop layout command.

              If you intend to use this laptop in "full portable" mode you'll want to be using the laptop keyboard layout and the corresponding keystrokes for that layout.  You can also, of course, plug in an external full keyboard and use typical desktop keyboard layout with JAWS as well, but if you don't have it handy you'll need to know the laptop layout specific sequences.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated FW: is there a way to delete messages with the same subject all at once?

Jim Rawls
 

 

 

From: jazzpiano@... <jazzpiano@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 1:36 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io
Subject: is there a way to delete messages with the same subject all at once?

 

Hi all, I am using outlook 2019, and many times I see a message that I'm uninterested in, and it has several responses to the original post. Can I delete these messages all at once to take them out of the in box? I am running jaws 21 beta on a windows ten machine.                    Jim


moderated Re: using Power Chute with JAWS

Chris Hill
 

It wasn't all that accessible, but it can give you some useful info if you need to know things like when your last ups event was and the like.

On 10/21/2020 14:09, Mario wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a significant benefit in installing and using the Power Chute Personal Edition program for a user to access an APC UPS's features? and if so, if it is accessible with JAWS and/or NVDA?

I am inclined to plug in the UPS, computer and peripherals, and let it do it's job without using the PCPE.




moderated Re: Beta

Richard Turner
 

Probably because of some change they made.
I have no idea if you can make that permanent.
Maybe someone else knows.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

That works, but why would I have to do this just with this version and never before?  And how do I make this permanent in this version of JAWS?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 2:19 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Have you tried insert+z to turn off quick keys?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C727a160cd4cc4c74fd8f08d875eecf68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637389015825489433%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=aurOhl0wcPjYKAlVzPXir%2BgXk4RTG%2F%2FgiauT29tZWso%3D&amp;reserved=0

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

I have to hit the enter key to turn on forms mode when trying to send or reply to a message, because when I tab to the body of the message, I get the words message body, and I can't do anything unless I hit the enter key to activate forms mode.  I don't know if it's because I'm using TB version 68 rather than the latest version.



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 1:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, what forms mode bug might that be?  I'm using thunderbird right
now, and it seems to be working fine.  They have recently updated it,
and the biggest issue I have is you can arrow yourself right out of
forms mode.  there has always been a problem in thunderbird in that if
you do too much editing on a message, stuff gets weird.  I've learned
to save the message as a draft then go in and edit as a new message to
make things work again.  That one has gone on for years.





On 10/21/2020 12:14, Maria Campbell wrote:
I had to revert back to 2020, because of a bug in Thunderbird, having
to do with forms mode.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 12:08 PM, Morey Worthington wrote:
Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with
little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?












moderated drag and drop on a laptop

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi All,

 

I am using JAWS 2020, and I am doing research ethics modules through the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. In the first quiz, and undoubtedly in others, it listed 3 possible responses that it wanted me to rank using drag and drop to reorder them.

 

When I look up the key strokes for that, it uses the num pad key, but I don’t have that on a laptop. Any advice about how to accomplish this? It seems I now also need that key to turn on the JAWS curser.

 

Many thanks for any help you can provide.

 

Cynthia

 


moderated using Power Chute with JAWS

Mario
 

I'm wondering if there is a significant benefit in installing and using the Power Chute Personal Edition program for a user to access an APC UPS's features? and if so, if it is accessible with JAWS and/or NVDA?

I am inclined to plug in the UPS, computer and peripherals, and let it do it's job without using the PCPE.


moderated Re: Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?

Andy
 

I have used it on the iPhone, and for what I used it for, it was accessible. The app seems pretty straight forward, at least as far as audio is concerned.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:04 AM
Subject: Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?

My daughter’s teacher wants to try using Google Meets for her parent-teacher conferences.  Anyone have advice on whether this is easier to use on Windows with JAWS or on my iphone?  I don’t have any Google apps on my phone and don’t know if I would need to install one.  I do have Google Chrome installed on my Windows 10 laptop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

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moderated Re: Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thanks, Patrick. I feel reassured.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?

I've accessed my Google Meets the same way I've accessed my Zoom meetings, by clicking on the emailed URL and following the microphone and camera setup prompts

Patrick

On 10/21/20, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks, Patrick. To use my Windows laptop, will I need to download
something or will it just work in Google Chrome?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick
Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?

The program works equally well on my Windows 10 laptop running JAWS
2020 and my iPhone running IOS 14 and Voiceover.

Patrick



On 10/21/20, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:
My daughter's teacher wants to try using Google Meets for her
parent-teacher conferences. Anyone have advice on whether this is
easier to use on Windows with JAWS or on my iphone? I don't have any
Google apps on my phone and don't know if I would need to install one.
I do have Google Chrome installed on my Windows 10 laptop







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information.
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confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors.
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from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this
information. If you have received this communication in error, please
contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its
entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an
offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction
or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not
intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction.
Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or
other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or
accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital
Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it
current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender,
not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities
representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets
Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National
Association ("KeyBank N.A."). Securities products and services are
offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services
are offered by KeyBank N.A.

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services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@key.com with 'No
Promotional E-mails'
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moderated Re: Beta

Maria Campbell
 

That works, but why would I have to do this just with this version and never before?  And how do I make this permanent in this version of JAWS?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 2:19 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Have you tried insert+z to turn off quick keys?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

I have to hit the enter key to turn on forms mode when trying to send or reply to a message, because when I tab to the body of the message, I get the words message body, and I can't do anything unless I hit the enter key to activate forms mode.  I don't know if it's because I'm using TB version 68 rather than the latest version.



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 1:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, what forms mode bug might that be?  I'm using thunderbird right
now, and it seems to be working fine.  They have recently updated it,
and the biggest issue I have is you can arrow yourself right out of
forms mode.  there has always been a problem in thunderbird in that if
you do too much editing on a message, stuff gets weird.  I've learned
to save the message as a draft then go in and edit as a new message to
make things work again.  That one has gone on for years.





On 10/21/2020 12:14, Maria Campbell wrote:
I had to revert back to 2020, because of a bug in Thunderbird, having
to do with forms mode.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 12:08 PM, Morey Worthington wrote:
Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with
little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?











moderated Re: Beta

Richard Turner
 

Have you tried insert+z to turn off quick keys?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

I have to hit the enter key to turn on forms mode when trying to send or reply to a message, because when I tab to the body of the message, I get the words message body, and I can't do anything unless I hit the enter key to activate forms mode.  I don't know if it's because I'm using TB version 68 rather than the latest version.



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 1:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, what forms mode bug might that be?  I'm using thunderbird right
now, and it seems to be working fine.  They have recently updated it,
and the biggest issue I have is you can arrow yourself right out of
forms mode.  there has always been a problem in thunderbird in that if
you do too much editing on a message, stuff gets weird.  I've learned
to save the message as a draft then go in and edit as a new message to
make things work again.  That one has gone on for years.





On 10/21/2020 12:14, Maria Campbell wrote:
I had to revert back to 2020, because of a bug in Thunderbird, having
to do with forms mode.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 12:08 PM, Morey Worthington wrote:
Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with
little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?







moderated Re: Beta

Maria Campbell
 

I have to hit the enter key to turn on forms mode when trying to send or reply to a message, because when I tab to the body of the message, I get the words message body, and I can't do anything unless I hit the enter key to activate forms mode.  I don't know if it's because I'm using TB version 68 rather than the latest version.



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 1:46 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Hmmm, what forms mode bug might that be?  I'm using thunderbird right now, and it seems to be working fine.  They have recently updated it, and the biggest issue I have is you can arrow yourself right out of forms mode.  there has always been a problem in thunderbird in that if you do too much editing on a message, stuff gets weird.  I've learned to save the message as a draft then go in and edit as a new message to make things work again.  That one has gone on for years.





On 10/21/2020 12:14, Maria Campbell wrote:
I had to revert back to 2020, because of a bug in Thunderbird, having to do with forms mode.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 12:08 PM, Morey Worthington wrote:
Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?






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Chris Hill
 

Hmmm, what forms mode bug might that be?  I'm using thunderbird right now, and it seems to be working fine.  They have recently updated it, and the biggest issue I have is you can arrow yourself right out of forms mode.  there has always been a problem in thunderbird in that if you do too much editing on a message, stuff gets weird.  I've learned to save the message as a draft then go in and edit as a new message to make things work again.  That one has gone on for years.

On 10/21/2020 12:14, Maria Campbell wrote:
I had to revert back to 2020, because of a bug in Thunderbird, having to do with forms mode.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 10/21/2020 12:08 PM, Morey Worthington wrote:
Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?


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