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moderated Re: Beta

Richard Turner
 

Amen to that. One would think we'd get better performance by now, but, so it goes.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

Yes, mainly with outlook. I would agree that it seems to be larger emails and I’m not really sure if they have lots of links. I was just hoping for better performance with his main stream program with 2021.
On Oct 21, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

Dan,
Which part of Office 365 are you experiencing more crashes?
I primarily use Outlook and Word, and some Excel, and have noticed some crashes, but I'm not sure it is more than with 2020.
It seems to be triggered mostly in Outlook on some emails that have lots of links I think, though it is hard to track down.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at:
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
urner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C90a3c15ae42c439d197208d875df0e7b%
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own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=64lxy1n%2Fag9z%2FMtJPYe20rhgWDgI%2BjND
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan
Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

It’s still loses focus like prior versions. Also it crashes with office 365 more than 2020. Overall pretty stable some nice new features but lingering issues remain.









moderated Re: Beta

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, mainly with outlook. I would agree that it seems to be larger emails and I’m not really sure if they have lots of links. I was just hoping for better performance with his main stream program with 2021.

On Oct 21, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

Dan,
Which part of Office 365 are you experiencing more crashes?
I primarily use Outlook and Word, and some Excel, and have noticed some crashes, but I'm not sure it is more than with 2020.
It seems to be triggered mostly in Outlook on some emails that have lots of links I think, though it is hard to track down.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

It’s still loses focus like prior versions. Also it crashes with office 365 more than 2020. Overall pretty stable some nice new features but lingering issues remain.









moderated Re: Beta

Chris Hill
 

All seems fine to me.  I've had a few crashes, but no worse than usual, and I'll go for days with nothing interesting happening.

On 10/21/2020 11:08, Morey Worthington wrote:
Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?


moderated Re: Beta

Richard Turner
 

Dan,
Which part of Office 365 are you experiencing more crashes?
I primarily use Outlook and Word, and some Excel, and have noticed some crashes, but I'm not sure it is more than with 2020.
It seems to be triggered mostly in Outlook on some emails that have lots of links I think, though it is hard to track down.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

It’s still loses focus like prior versions. Also it crashes with office 365 more than 2020. Overall pretty stable some nice new features but lingering issues remain.


moderated Re: Beta

Morey Worthington
 

Thanks for response. Have not downloaded it yet and was just wondering.

Thanks again.

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?

Patrick Johnson
 

The program works equally well on my Windows 10 laptop running JAWS
2020 and my iPhone running IOS 14 and Voiceover.

Patrick



On 10/21/20, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:
My daughter's teacher wants to try using Google Meets for her parent-teacher
conferences. Anyone have advice on whether this is easier to use on Windows
with JAWS or on my iphone? I don't have any Google apps on my phone and
don't know if I would need to install one. I do have Google Chrome
installed on my Windows 10 laptop







Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement
Key Equipment Finance<http://www.keyequipmentfinance.com/> & Key
Institutional Bank
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moderated Re: Beta

Dan Longmore
 

It’s still loses focus like prior versions. Also it crashes with office 365 more than 2020. Overall pretty stable some nice new features but lingering issues remain.


moderated Re: Beta

Richard Turner
 

I've been using the beta pretty much all the time since the end of September and I've not had any real issues.
I sent something into the beta feedback, but now don't recall exactly what that was, so it must not have been huge.
I'm hoping FS gets their web site troubles sorted out and we get another beta before they decide to release the full version.
At least, I assume the hold-up is the web site problems.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 🖖

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 9:09 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Beta

Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Beta

Morey Worthington
 

Hi all. anybody using the 2021 Beta of Jaws still using it with little or no difficulty?



Is the newest Beta release of 2021 still holding its own?

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Is Google Meet easier on Windows or iPhone?

Van Lant, Robin
 

My daughter’s teacher wants to try using Google Meets for her parent-teacher conferences.  Anyone have advice on whether this is easier to use on Windows with JAWS or on my iphone?  I don’t have any Google apps on my phone and don’t know if I would need to install one.  I do have Google Chrome installed on my Windows 10 laptop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

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moderated Re: podcast apps

Stan Bobbitt
 

Hi, there are a few buttons that aren’t labeled but if you’ll use the tab key you’ll find the search field to search for podcast. Type in the name and hit enter. Give it a few seconds and use tab to locate the results. Hit enter on the podcast, then with tab key once more you’ll find a subscribe button. After that again using tab, you should find a list of episodes. Enter on the episode. If it doesn’t start playing right away, tab till you find the play button. Just ignore the buttons that aren’t labeled.

HTH,

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: podcast apps

 

I’ve been following this thread.  I downloaded Grover, I’m not sure how you are getting to any of the controls you mentioned.  All I here is “button”, “button”, button”.  What exactly are these buttons.  I could get no explanation and I’m certainly not going to  click on something I don’t know what it does. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: October 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: podcast apps

 

I use Grover. It’s accessible. I can search for, find, subscribe, unsubscribe, fast forward, rewind, and of course play and pause podcasts.

It’s available in the Microsoft store.

StanB

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: podcast apps

 

Are there any accessible podcast apps so I can subscribe to different podcasts on my Windows 10 computer?


moderated Re: podcast apps

David Diamond
 

I’ve been following this thread.  I downloaded Grover, I’m not sure how you are getting to any of the controls you mentioned.  All I here is “button”, “button”, button”.  What exactly are these buttons.  I could get no explanation and I’m certainly not going to  click on something I don’t know what it does. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: October 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: podcast apps

 

I use Grover. It’s accessible. I can search for, find, subscribe, unsubscribe, fast forward, rewind, and of course play and pause podcasts.

It’s available in the Microsoft store.

StanB

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: podcast apps

 

Are there any accessible podcast apps so I can subscribe to different podcasts on my Windows 10 computer?


moderated Using Google Docs with Jaws

Korinne Bougher
 

Hello everyone,

I am trying to change my font in Google Docs from Arial to Times New Roman. Is there a way to do this with Jaws?

Any help is appreciated.

Korinne


moderated Re: podcast apps

Stan Bobbitt
 

I use Grover. It’s accessible. I can search for, find, subscribe, unsubscribe, fast forward, rewind, and of course play and pause podcasts.

It’s available in the Microsoft store.

StanB

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: podcast apps

 

Are there any accessible podcast apps so I can subscribe to different podcasts on my Windows 10 computer?


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi Don  and Brian 

I figured out there is another way to do fonts size  ,it is press ctrl + d  then the dialogue box  come up  fonts size  press alt  s  then use down arrow to choose the size then press enter

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

I just realized it’s actually Control shift period for increasing font size.  Likewise, it’s control shift , for decreasing it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Hi there  Thanks

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

There are several ways.  On the fly, I like to select the text I want to adjust then hit control period. You’ll hear JAWS announce the font size in increments each time you hit that key combination.  You can also hit Control D to open a font dialog box to adjust all sorts of aspects or type in a font size.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Hi All  I thought I did saved the fonts letter size in my microsoft word document but didn’t ,Can anyone tell me how to change fonts size  from 12 to 16 ?

Thanks

Addison

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moderated Re: podcast apps

Hope Williamson
 

On 10/20/2020 1:05 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

Sticher is supposed to be accessible. I havent used it but it was recomended to me.

On 10/20/2020 11:07 AM, Marianne Denning wrote:

Are there any accessible podcast apps so I can subscribe to different podcasts on my Windows 10 computer?


moderated JAWS Repair and FS REader icon is back

Tony Sohl
 

Hi I did the repair and I did not loose all my settings. It automatically imports all your seetns back into the repare.

The FS REader icon is back on myu desk top. Thansk for all the help.

--
Sent from my Windows 10 HP


moderated Re: A Question About JAWS Accessibility

Chris Nestrud
 

It is, provided that your employer is willing to do some configuration
on their end. This document may be useful:

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/RemoteAccessAuthorizationInstructions.pdf

Chris

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:46:09AM -0400, Lynne Moore wrote:
Hello everyone. I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy out
there. I am currently job hunting for transcription jobs I can do from
home and some of them say that my computer needs to be able to run
virtual desktop interface. Does anyone know if that is accessible with
JAWS? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Lynne Moore




References

1. https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/82881
2. mailto:main@jfw.groups.io?subject=Re:%20A%20Question%20About%20JAWS%20Accessibility
3. mailto:lynne57moore@gmail.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20A%20Question%20About%20JAWS%20Accessibility
4. https://groups.io/mt/77675701/1230489
5. https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/post
6. http://www.freedomscientific.com/
7. http://www.groups.io/g/jfw/threads
8. http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html
9. https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/editsub/1230489
10. mailto:main+owner@jfw.groups.io
11. https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged


moderated Re: Question About Excel

Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...>
 

I seem to have the same problem.

I normally use excel for a glossary of terms. As I am a university student,
numerous terms that I have to deal with are new to me. Therefore, I have an
excel work sheet divided into four columns. In the first Colum, I have a
word that requires a definition, in the second Columb I have the type of
word i.e. verb, noun, adjective, or adverb; then, in the third Columb I have
the definition, and finally, in the 4th Columb I have an example of the word
applied in a sentence.

I have often observed that when I am using f2 for a cell within the first
column, I can comfortably use my left and right arrows to check the spelling
of a particular word. However, if I go to my third or fourth Columb, which
constitutes of multiple words, I am unable to use jaws to navigate within
the cell. This is really strange, and I have not found a solution to this
problem. I have also tried the suggestion mentioned below with regards to
unchecking the 'allow editing directly in cells' box, but it seems to be
unsuccessful on my end.

If someone has a solution of this, I, likewise, will be very grateful.

Below are the specs of my computer:
Lenovo ThinkPad laptop with windows 10 running on it.
Jaws version 18.
Microsoft office 2016

With the best of wishes,

Ali

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: 20 October 2020 11:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question About Excel

Maybe.
1. In Excel, go to advanced options: alt-f, then t, then a.
2. Tab to "allow editing directly in cells" and be sure it is not checked.

Good luck!
At 07:37 PM 10/19/2020, you wrote:

Lately, I have noticed that when I hit the F2 key to edit a cell, JAWS
reads the contents, but I cannot move through the contents of a cell.
For example if I want to check the spelling of an entry, I usually hit
F2 and arrow back and forth to see the spelling. I do the same thing if
I want to check a formula. Am I missing a JAWS or Excel setting?


moderated Re: OEClassic problem reading folder and message lists

Mike B
 

Hi Phil,
 
Try these settings to make your folder navigation a little better with OE Classic.
1. Press, Alt + T, for Tools and press the letter, O, for options then on the General tab, uncheck always Show the Send & Receive window, tab to, Apply,
press the spacebar, and tab to get to the list of options.  When you get to, General down arrow to, Layout.
 
2. On the layout tab, tab to, Position Email combobox and put this on Hidden.  Tab 1 time to, Show header and you want this checked.  Tab 1 time to, Position
News combobox and again choose, Hidden.  Tab 1 time to, Show header and uncheck this checkbox.  Tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.
Note: On the layout Tab, I don't have, Contacts checked, but I do have Folder Bar, Folder List, Tool Bar and Status Bar checked.
 
I'll tell y'all this folder list reading sucks, but you can only try to make it better and experimentation is a must.
 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Cox
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:06 PM
Subject: OEClassic problem reading folder and message lists

Hello Fellow Listers
 
I have installed the OEClassic free version and everything seems to work fine except that my Jaws2020 will not focus on or read/speak the folderlist or message list. Also, I have not determined what key command such as TAB or Enter is used to open or close a folder.
 
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong, please?
 
TIA
Phil

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