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moderated Question About Excel

clarence carter
 

Lately, I have noticed that when I hit the F2 key to edit a cell, JAWS reads the contents, but I cannot move through the contents of a cell. For example if I want to check the spelling of an entry, I usually hit F2 and arrow back and forth to see the spelling. I do the same thing if I want to check a formula. Am I missing a JAWS or Excel setting?


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

Van Lant, Robin
 

Addison,

I just realized it’s actually Control shift period for increasing font size.  Likewise, it’s control shift , for decreasing it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Hi there  Thanks

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

There are several ways.  On the fly, I like to select the text I want to adjust then hit control period. You’ll hear JAWS announce the font size in increments each time you hit that key combination.  You can also hit Control D to open a font dialog box to adjust all sorts of aspects or type in a font size.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Hi All  I thought I did saved the fonts letter size in my microsoft word document but didn’t ,Can anyone tell me how to change fonts size  from 12 to 16 ?

Thanks

Addison

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moderated Re: braille display with jaws

Michael Mote
 

I currently use the Q Braille, and it does work well with both my iDevices, and my computer. I do have to use the USB connection with JAWS. Bluetooth doesn’t seem to be very good. It does work, but I notice a bit of a lag when I use my display like this. I don’t know if that is JAWS related, or if it is just the way the Bluetooth connectivity works with my Windows PC.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

I have the Orbit Reader, Focus 40 5th generation and QBraille. I like the Focus 40 and the QBraille. I had a lot of issues with the Orbit Reader.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Ismail
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for this. this is really helpful.

 

I’ll be looking more into these.

 

Best wishes,

 

Ali

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 19 October 2020 03:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Ali,

Orbit Research will be releasing a 40 cell display very soon. Their 20 cell is quite good. The 40 will cost about $1400.

Freedom Scientific sells their Focus 40 5th jeneration display for around $2800.

Humanware and The American Printing House for the blind have released their Mantis 40 cell display that has a TWERTY Keyboard instead of a braille keyboard for around $2500.

HIMS has the QBraille 40 that I believe is about $3200.

I hope that helps you get started.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate to be addressed in here.

 

I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?

 

I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille. Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect when reading electronic text in braille.

 

I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.

 

With the best of wishes,

 

Ali

 


moderated Re: braille display with jaws

Marianne Denning
 

I have the Orbit Reader, Focus 40 5th generation and QBraille. I like the Focus 40 and the QBraille. I had a lot of issues with the Orbit Reader.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Ismail
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for this. this is really helpful.

 

I’ll be looking more into these.

 

Best wishes,

 

Ali

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 19 October 2020 03:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Ali,

Orbit Research will be releasing a 40 cell display very soon. Their 20 cell is quite good. The 40 will cost about $1400.

Freedom Scientific sells their Focus 40 5th jeneration display for around $2800.

Humanware and The American Printing House for the blind have released their Mantis 40 cell display that has a TWERTY Keyboard instead of a braille keyboard for around $2500.

HIMS has the QBraille 40 that I believe is about $3200.

I hope that helps you get started.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate to be addressed in here.

 

I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?

 

I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille. Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect when reading electronic text in braille.

 

I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.

 

With the best of wishes,

 

Ali

 


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi richard  Thanks for this !!

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

There is an easier way.

Open a blank document.

Press the applications key or shift+f10.

Hit f for font.

Make your adjustments.

Tab to “set as default.

Press spacebar or enter.

You will have a dialog that asks, for this document only, or for all documents based on the normal template, which is a radio button you tab to.

Once you set it to all documents, hit enter or tab to OK and hit enter.

Then, every document will be using that default.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

That’s a good solution, however, b sue to save the original normal.dat file.

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

              If you want any document you create as a blank document to have 16-point font size all the time, you need to edit your Normal.dotm file, change it there, then save it.

              This file is located in your AppData folder for your account, which is typically not accessible for anyone unless you turn on Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives, at least so you can get at it then you can turn that setting off again, in Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab.

               Once that's done, Open Word, then open file and navigate to C:\Users\{whatever belongs here for your account}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates and you'll find Normal.dotm there, which is the file you'll select to open.  Once it's open, change whatever it is that you'd like, including but not limited to font face, size, etc., then save the file.

                After that, all blank documents that you open will have the attributes that you set up in your Normal.dotm template.
               
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: braille display with jaws

Kevin Minor
 

Hi Ashleigh.

 

My PC has Bluetooth, and I use my Focus 40 Blue 5th Gen with no USB connection to it. In fact, the only time I have a USB cable between the Focus and PC is either when I’m copying books to the Focus, or when I’m updating the firmware. When Bluetooth works, it’s great, and this new Asus is wonderful. My old Lenovo, on the other hand, was very intermittent in terms of Bluetooth.

 

Kevin and Jilly the flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Hello,

You could try the Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific. It’s  spendy, about 3,000 dollars. However, it’s well worth it in the end. This is wireless, of course untill you need the USB to charge. However, works well with JAWS connectivity. Unfortunately, need usb connected to use with JAWS on your PC.

Ashleigh Piccinino



On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate to be addressed in here.

 

I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?

 

I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille. Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect when reading electronic text in braille.

 

I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.

 

With the best of wishes,

 

Ali

 


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi there  Thanks

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

There are several ways.  On the fly, I like to select the text I want to adjust then hit control period. You’ll hear JAWS announce the font size in increments each time you hit that key combination.  You can also hit Control D to open a font dialog box to adjust all sorts of aspects or type in a font size.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Hi All  I thought I did saved the fonts letter size in my microsoft word document but didn’t ,Can anyone tell me how to change fonts size  from 12 to 16 ?

Thanks

Addison

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moderated Re: braille display with jaws

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,
You could try the Focus 40 Blue 5th Generation from Freedom Scientific. It’s  spendy, about 3,000 dollars. However, it’s well worth it in the end. This is wireless, of course untill you need the USB to charge. However, works well with JAWS connectivity. Unfortunately, need usb connected to use with JAWS on your PC.
Ashleigh Piccinino


On Oct 18, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate to be addressed in here.

 

I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?

 

I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille. Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect when reading electronic text in braille.

 

I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.

 

With the best of wishes,

 

Ali

 


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Richard,

             That is, indeed, much easier.  I imagine it's a "more recent" feature, too, where "recent" could be a long while back.  I've been using the method of directly editing the Normal.dot (or dotm, later) file for many decades now.  If Word is, for all practical intents and purposes, allowing you to do this as you describe then it is much easier.

Don,

              You don't really have to worry about saving the original.  If you nuke whatever Normal.dotm is in the folder Word will generate another one, and it will be generated with the defaults.  Now if your original is already modified in one way, and you're not sure about the tweaks you're making, it makes absolute sense to save the existing Normal.dotm as something like OrigNormal.dotm before going back and making the tweaks.  It's really a matter of what your fall back Normal.dotm should be for you.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

Richard Turner
 

There is an easier way.

Open a blank document.

Press the applications key or shift+f10.

Hit f for font.

Make your adjustments.

Tab to “set as default.

Press spacebar or enter.

You will have a dialog that asks, for this document only, or for all documents based on the normal template, which is a radio button you tab to.

Once you set it to all documents, hit enter or tab to OK and hit enter.

Then, every document will be using that default.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

That’s a good solution, however, b sue to save the original normal.dat file.

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

              If you want any document you create as a blank document to have 16-point font size all the time, you need to edit your Normal.dotm file, change it there, then save it.

              This file is located in your AppData folder for your account, which is typically not accessible for anyone unless you turn on Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives, at least so you can get at it then you can turn that setting off again, in Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab.

               Once that's done, Open Word, then open file and navigate to C:\Users\{whatever belongs here for your account}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates and you'll find Normal.dotm there, which is the file you'll select to open.  Once it's open, change whatever it is that you'd like, including but not limited to font face, size, etc., then save the file.

                After that, all blank documents that you open will have the attributes that you set up in your Normal.dotm template.
               
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

Don Mauck
 

That’s a good solution, however, b sue to save the original normal.dat file.

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

              If you want any document you create as a blank document to have 16-point font size all the time, you need to edit your Normal.dotm file, change it there, then save it.

              This file is located in your AppData folder for your account, which is typically not accessible for anyone unless you turn on Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives, at least so you can get at it then you can turn that setting off again, in Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab.

               Once that's done, Open Word, then open file and navigate to C:\Users\{whatever belongs here for your account}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates and you'll find Normal.dotm there, which is the file you'll select to open.  Once it's open, change whatever it is that you'd like, including but not limited to font face, size, etc., then save the file.

                After that, all blank documents that you open will have the attributes that you set up in your Normal.dotm template.
               
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Addison,

              If you want any document you create as a blank document to have 16-point font size all the time, you need to edit your Normal.dotm file, change it there, then save it.

              This file is located in your AppData folder for your account, which is typically not accessible for anyone unless you turn on Show Hidden Files, Folders and Drives, at least so you can get at it then you can turn that setting off again, in Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab.

               Once that's done, Open Word, then open file and navigate to C:\Users\{whatever belongs here for your account}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates and you'll find Normal.dotm there, which is the file you'll select to open.  Once it's open, change whatever it is that you'd like, including but not limited to font face, size, etc., then save the file.

                After that, all blank documents that you open will have the attributes that you set up in your Normal.dotm template.
               
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: OE classic.

Van Lant, Robin
 

Microsoft’s free email program is now Windows Mail.  Outlook comes with Office, which is a paid program.  It works well.  I do not use Windows Mail, so others will have to chime in on how well it works with JAWS.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:22 PM
To: jazzpiano@...
Subject: OE classic.

 

Hi all,

If you have OE classic, I have many questions for you, and if you can get back to me about this, I would appreciate it

I tried it a few years ago, when it was free, and spell check didn't work well etc.. So, here are my questions. How much does it cost?

Does it work with windows ten and jaws 2021beta?

Does spell check work well with it?

Is it hard to installs?

Where do you get it?

Is there any down side to the program?

Thangkas for your help on this. Jim.        

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moderated Re: jaws2020 fonts letter size

Van Lant, Robin
 

Addison,

There are several ways.  On the fly, I like to select the text I want to adjust then hit control period. You’ll hear JAWS announce the font size in increments each time you hit that key combination.  You can also hit Control D to open a font dialog box to adjust all sorts of aspects or type in a font size.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws2020 fonts letter size

 

Hi All  I thought I did saved the fonts letter size in my microsoft word document but didn’t ,Can anyone tell me how to change fonts size  from 12 to 16 ?

Thanks

Addison

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This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

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moderated Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

Dan Longmore
 

Same here.

On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:19 AM, Adrian Spratt <adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:

I haven't followed this thread, but the method I and several others have found that most reliably brings back JAWS in Windows 10 is to invoke Narrator with control-shift-enter. Makes no sense, but it works nearly every time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

sounds like there are two function call issues.

try press insert+windows+f4. this should unload and reload JAWS after a ten or so seconds.

if the problem remains, try restarting the computer. if the message persists, unload JAWS by pressing alt+f4, press windows+r, type jaws followed by the version number, followed by a space and a slash and the word default, and press enter. this loads JAWS with a diagnostic set of defaults. see if the message persists.

you mightt have to call FS to fix it:
727-803-8600 or 800-444-4443.

-------- Original Message --------
From: T. Civitello [mailto:tcivi31@comcast.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2020, 6:14 PM
Subject: MS Edge and JFW 2020
unknown function call to:
finddistantancestoroftype
finddistantancestoroftype
unknown function call to:
getobjectia2uniqueid
getobjectia2uniqueid
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-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

this message is indicative coming from the JAWS scripts. use the speech feature in JAWS to copy what was exactly was. insert+spacebar and then h. then navigate to, select and copy it and let us know what it said.
the message exactl

-------- Original Message --------
From: T. Civitello [mailto:tcivi31@comcast.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2020, 5:27 PM
Subject: MS Edge and JFW 2020
Have an annoying problem with Edge. Using Jaws 2020, Win 7 and the version of Edge that is supposed to work best with Win 7. When on a Web site every time I press the enter key I get a long message about an unknown function call followed by a long spelling out of letters and nu numbers that occur too fast for me to recognize or copy. Anyone know how to cure this? Thanks, Tom











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moderated Re: braille display with jaws

Richard Turner
 

That is very unusual.

Over what time period has this been?

It sounds like one of the very early units.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper 🖖

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

My orbit has had to be fixed at least four times:

Missing dots.

Bad motor.

Dots staying up even when machine is off.

Inability to turn machine on.

Probably have spent more fixing it than it cost in the first place!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Ismail
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for this. this is really helpful.

 

I’ll be looking more into these.

 

Best wishes,

 

Ali

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 19 October 2020 03:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Ali,

Orbit Research will be releasing a 40 cell display very soon. Their 20 cell is quite good. The 40 will cost about $1400.

Freedom Scientific sells their Focus 40 5th jeneration display for around $2800.

Humanware and The American Printing House for the blind have released their Mantis 40 cell display that has a TWERTY Keyboard instead of a braille keyboard for around $2500.

HIMS has the QBraille 40 that I believe is about $3200.

I hope that helps you get started.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate to be addressed in here.

 

I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?

 

I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille. Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect when reading electronic text in braille.

 

I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.

 

With the best of wishes,

 

Ali

 


moderated Re: braille display with jaws

Sharon
 

My orbit has had to be fixed at least four times:

Missing dots.

Bad motor.

Dots staying up even when machine is off.

Inability to turn machine on.

Probably have spent more fixing it than it cost in the first place!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Ismail
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 2:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for this. this is really helpful.

 

I’ll be looking more into these.

 

Best wishes,

 

Ali

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 19 October 2020 03:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Ali,

Orbit Research will be releasing a 40 cell display very soon. Their 20 cell is quite good. The 40 will cost about $1400.

Freedom Scientific sells their Focus 40 5th jeneration display for around $2800.

Humanware and The American Printing House for the blind have released their Mantis 40 cell display that has a TWERTY Keyboard instead of a braille keyboard for around $2500.

HIMS has the QBraille 40 that I believe is about $3200.

I hope that helps you get started.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate to be addressed in here.

 

I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?

 

I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille. Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect when reading electronic text in braille.

 

I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.

 

With the best of wishes,

 

Ali

 


moderated Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

Adrian Spratt
 

Bill, I'm glad you caught my lazy error. I'm so used to the command that it's like dialing a phone number. My fingers would do the dialing long before I could speak it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 1:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

Hi, Adrian. The command to invoke Narrator is CONTROL plus Windows key plus ENTER, NOT, control-shift-enter.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

I haven't followed this thread, but the method I and several others have found that most reliably brings back JAWS in Windows 10 is to invoke Narrator with control-shift-enter. Makes no sense, but it works nearly every time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

sounds like there are two function call issues.

try press insert+windows+f4. this should unload and reload JAWS after a ten or so seconds.

if the problem remains, try restarting the computer. if the message persists, unload JAWS by pressing alt+f4, press windows+r, type jaws followed by the version number, followed by a space and a slash and the word default, and press enter. this loads JAWS with a diagnostic set of defaults.
see if the message persists.

you mightt have to call FS to fix it:
727-803-8600 or 800-444-4443.

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From: T. Civitello [mailto:tcivi31@comcast.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2020, 6:14 PM
Subject: MS Edge and JFW 2020
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-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

this message is indicative coming from the JAWS scripts. use the speech feature in JAWS to copy what was exactly was. insert+spacebar and then h.
then navigate to, select and copy it and let us know what it said.
the message exactl

-------- Original Message --------
From: T. Civitello [mailto:tcivi31@comcast.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2020, 5:27 PM
Subject: MS Edge and JFW 2020
Have an annoying problem with Edge.  Using Jaws 2020, Win 7 and the version of Edge that is supposed to work best with Win 7. When on a Web site every time I press the enter key I get a long message about an unknown function call followed by a long spelling out of letters and nu numbers that occur too fast for me to recognize or copy.   Anyone know how to cure this? Thanks, Tom











.


moderated Re: braille display with jaws

Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...>
 

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for this. this is really helpful.

 

I’ll be looking more into these.

 

Best wishes,

 

Ali

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 19 October 2020 03:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: braille display with jaws

 

Ali,

Orbit Research will be releasing a 40 cell display very soon. Their 20 cell is quite good. The 40 will cost about $1400.

Freedom Scientific sells their Focus 40 5th jeneration display for around $2800.

Humanware and The American Printing House for the blind have released their Mantis 40 cell display that has a TWERTY Keyboard instead of a braille keyboard for around $2500.

HIMS has the QBraille 40 that I believe is about $3200.

I hope that helps you get started.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Oct 18, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Ali Ismail <haydaraliismail90@...> wrote:



Hi everyone,

 

I am new to this group, and I hope that my questions is appropriate to be addressed in here.

 

I was wondering if someone could advise me with regards to where I could purchase a portable wireless braille display (40 cells)?

 

I am a Jaws user; however, I love to engage in reading in braille. Although I like when Jaws would read to me a long piece of text, I still wish to also remained active with my braille reading skills. As braille books takes a lot of space, braille displays are just perfect when reading electronic text in braille.

 

I would be very grateful if someone could help me with this query.

 

With the best of wishes,

 

Ali

 


moderated Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Adrian. The command to invoke Narrator is CONTROL plus Windows key plus
ENTER, NOT, control-shift-enter.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

I haven't followed this thread, but the method I and several others have
found that most reliably brings back JAWS in Windows 10 is to invoke
Narrator with control-shift-enter. Makes no sense, but it works nearly every
time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 6:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

sounds like there are two function call issues.

try press insert+windows+f4. this should unload and reload JAWS after a ten
or so seconds.

if the problem remains, try restarting the computer. if the message
persists, unload JAWS by pressing alt+f4, press windows+r, type jaws
followed by the version number, followed by a space and a slash and the word
default, and press enter. this loads JAWS with a diagnostic set of defaults.
see if the message persists.

you mightt have to call FS to fix it:
727-803-8600 or 800-444-4443.

-------- Original Message --------
From: T. Civitello [mailto:tcivi31@comcast.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2020, 6:14 PM
Subject: MS Edge and JFW 2020
unknown function call to:
finddistantancestoroftype
finddistantancestoroftype
unknown function call to:
getobjectia2uniqueid
getobjectia2uniqueid
Amazon.com: AmazonBasics: AmazonBasics
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-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: MS Edge and JFW 2020

this message is indicative coming from the JAWS scripts. use the speech
feature in JAWS to copy what was exactly was. insert+spacebar and then h.
then navigate to, select and copy it and let us know what it said.
the message exactl

-------- Original Message --------
From: T. Civitello [mailto:tcivi31@comcast.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, October 18, 2020, 5:27 PM
Subject: MS Edge and JFW 2020
Have an annoying problem with Edge.  Using Jaws 2020, Win 7 and the version
of Edge that is supposed to work best with Win 7. When on a Web site every
time I press the enter key I get a long message about an unknown function
call followed by a long spelling out of letters and nu numbers that occur
too fast for me to recognize or copy.   Anyone know how to cure this? 
Thanks, Tom











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