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moderated Re: Jaws 2021 and emoji panel

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’m on Vocalizer Nathan Compact and JAWS 2020 and the emogi panel seems to read fine, for what it’s worth.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 and emoji panel

 

Hi,

I assume that this is not the case with other synthesizers such as Eloquence and Windows OneCore (OneCore voices are best ones to use when dealing with emojis). If I’m correct, it is something to ask Nuance through Vispero.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 and emoji panel

 

Thanks Joseph,

Very interesting.

I tried SAPI 5 and Eloquence and they read the emoji just fine.

I went back to my default of Tom enhanced from Vocalizer and it read it when I re-read a sent message.

Then, I just added one here and it just says 12.

🍸

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2021 and emoji panel

 

Hi,

This is a synthesizer issue, and unless JAWS is told to process certain Unicode symbols directly and send them to synths, it won’t be able to read emojis and some Unicode symbols correctly.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws 2021 and emoji panel

 

I find I have to use Narrator to arrow through the emoji panel, and after picking one, Narrator reads the emoji just fine.

Jaws 2021 reads a number.

I sent a note to a friend who has a great job at a place where it is not uncommon for the office to go out for a drink at 3 PM to end the day.  So I used the whiskey glass emoji.  Narrator reads it accurately.  Jaws 2021 says “twelve.”

 

Any thoughts about how Jaws can be made to speak the emoji?

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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moderated JAWS Help

Andrew Summers
 

Hi,

Why does JAWS say when I open Outlook the name of the e-mail and then says one of 17 when I am at the top of the list?

I have the latest version of JAWS and office plus windows 10.

 

Andrew


moderated Jaws Only Reads when Using Say Line Keystroke

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
Running Windows 7, Word 2010 and Jaws 16, thru J2021.  I don't know what happened but, when reading an old or new Word .DOCX file Jaws of any version will not read line by line when down or up arrowing, Jaws will only read when using the say line keystroke, Insert + up arrow.  Jaws doesn't report blank lines or anything unless using the say line keystroke.
 
I know I'm missing something but, for the life of me I don't know what.  Call it a senior moment a major brain fart or severe brain cramp, but I'm having all of them!  Would someone tell me what setting or settings I should be checking?  I'm obviously overlooking something and don't have a clue as to what it is.
 
All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers, Lakers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.


moderated FW: Microsoft wants AI to be more helpful for people who are blind or use wheelchairs - TechRepublic

Richard Turner
 

I found the article at the link below to be interesting.


https://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-wants-ai-to-be-more-helpful-for-people-who-are-blind-or-use-wheelchairs/

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 


moderated Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

Richard Turner
 

Right, if you set the shortcut to always run maximized, you should not have to maximize the window each time you launch a program.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

 

It should be alt. enter then tab 3 times then choose run maximized.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick Miller

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:20 AM

Subject: A Direct Question for David Moore

 

Dear David:

 

I am reviewing the tutorial you put together about the Chrome browser a little over a year ago.  I am trying to be sure Chrome is maximized.  In the tutorial, you said to go to the Chrome shortcut on your desktop, hit Alt+Enter to get to the Properties page, be sure you are on the Shortcut tab, then tab once to see if Chrome is maximized.  When I go to the Shortcut tab and hit the tab key, instead of saying whether or not Chrome is maximized it says, “Target,” and then speaks the location of Chrome on my computer.  It doesn’t say anything at all about maximization.  I am now using Windows 10 and the JAWS Beta release.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

It should be alt. enter then tab 3 times then choose run maximized.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:20 AM
Subject: A Direct Question for David Moore

Dear David:

 

I am reviewing the tutorial you put together about the Chrome browser a little over a year ago.  I am trying to be sure Chrome is maximized.  In the tutorial, you said to go to the Chrome shortcut on your desktop, hit Alt+Enter to get to the Properties page, be sure you are on the Shortcut tab, then tab once to see if Chrome is maximized.  When I go to the Shortcut tab and hit the tab key, instead of saying whether or not Chrome is maximized it says, “Target,” and then speaks the location of Chrome on my computer.  It doesn’t say anything at all about maximization.  I am now using Windows 10 and the JAWS Beta release.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

David Kingsbury
 

Hello,

 

Windows and up arrow has always worked to maximize a window. The correct alternative way is Alt and Spacebar together and then X. You said Alt and Tab which is why this did not work.

 

David K.

 


moderated Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

Richard Turner
 

In the shortcut properties if you keep tabbing, you will find a combo box that you can set to run maximized.
Then tab to OK and hit enter.
Then when you run the shortcut it will be maximized.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 13, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:



Dear David:

 

If that is the case, I think that updating the tutorial would be a great idea.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

 

Hello rick! There is now a Windows command that will maximize any window you are in! Now, just open chrome, and make sure your focus is in the chrome window. Now, simply hold down the windows key and tap the up arrow key, and chrome will be maximized right then and there. That Windows command is there it was added after I wrote that tutorial! I should update that tutorial to be more compatible with the latest versions of Windows 10. I do believe you have to be using Windows 10, however! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:20 AM Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:

Dear David:

 

I am reviewing the tutorial you put together about the Chrome browser a little over a year ago.  I am trying to be sure Chrome is maximized.  In the tutorial, you said to go to the Chrome shortcut on your desktop, hit Alt+Enter to get to the Properties page, be sure you are on the Shortcut tab, then tab once to see if Chrome is maximized.  When I go to the Shortcut tab and hit the tab key, instead of saying whether or not Chrome is maximized it says, “Target,” and then speaks the location of Chrome on my computer.  It doesn’t say anything at all about maximization.  I am now using Windows 10 and the JAWS Beta release.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

Rick Miller
 

Dear David:

 

If that is the case, I think that updating the tutorial would be a great idea.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

 

Hello rick! There is now a Windows command that will maximize any window you are in! Now, just open chrome, and make sure your focus is in the chrome window. Now, simply hold down the windows key and tap the up arrow key, and chrome will be maximized right then and there. That Windows command is there it was added after I wrote that tutorial! I should update that tutorial to be more compatible with the latest versions of Windows 10. I do believe you have to be using Windows 10, however! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:20 AM Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:

Dear David:

 

I am reviewing the tutorial you put together about the Chrome browser a little over a year ago.  I am trying to be sure Chrome is maximized.  In the tutorial, you said to go to the Chrome shortcut on your desktop, hit Alt+Enter to get to the Properties page, be sure you are on the Shortcut tab, then tab once to see if Chrome is maximized.  When I go to the Shortcut tab and hit the tab key, instead of saying whether or not Chrome is maximized it says, “Target,” and then speaks the location of Chrome on my computer.  It doesn’t say anything at all about maximization.  I am now using Windows 10 and the JAWS Beta release.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: A Direct Question for David Moore

David Moore
 

Hello rick! There is now a Windows command that will maximize any window you are in! Now, just open chrome, and make sure your focus is in the chrome window. Now, simply hold down the windows key and tap the up arrow key, and chrome will be maximized right then and there. That Windows command is there it was added after I wrote that tutorial! I should update that tutorial to be more compatible with the latest versions of Windows 10. I do believe you have to be using Windows 10, however! David Moore


On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:20 AM Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:

Dear David:

 

I am reviewing the tutorial you put together about the Chrome browser a little over a year ago.  I am trying to be sure Chrome is maximized.  In the tutorial, you said to go to the Chrome shortcut on your desktop, hit Alt+Enter to get to the Properties page, be sure you are on the Shortcut tab, then tab once to see if Chrome is maximized.  When I go to the Shortcut tab and hit the tab key, instead of saying whether or not Chrome is maximized it says, “Target,” and then speaks the location of Chrome on my computer.  It doesn’t say anything at all about maximization.  I am now using Windows 10 and the JAWS Beta release.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated A Direct Question for David Moore

Rick Miller
 

Dear David:

 

I am reviewing the tutorial you put together about the Chrome browser a little over a year ago.  I am trying to be sure Chrome is maximized.  In the tutorial, you said to go to the Chrome shortcut on your desktop, hit Alt+Enter to get to the Properties page, be sure you are on the Shortcut tab, then tab once to see if Chrome is maximized.  When I go to the Shortcut tab and hit the tab key, instead of saying whether or not Chrome is maximized it says, “Target,” and then speaks the location of Chrome on my computer.  It doesn’t say anything at all about maximization.  I am now using Windows 10 and the JAWS Beta release.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Using Google Calendar with JAWS

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

Recently I listened to a Freedom Scientific archived webinar from last year that talked about using JAWS with Google Calendar.  I have decided I want to try to learn to use Google Calendar but every time I go to calendar.google.com JAWS starts speaking to me in a foreign language.  When I called Freedom Scientific Technical Support they told me several other people had had the same problem and said it had something to do with Google settings.  I went to my Google account, signed in using Facebook, found Settings, and when I checked to see what language was the default language it showed English United States, which is just the language setting I thought I had.  Then after discovering that the default language was the correct one I got out of my Google account and opened up Google Chrome, which is my Internet  browser, hit the Alt+L keystroke to open up the addressbar, entered calendar.google.com, and hit the Enter key.  When the page loaded, here is what was on it:

 


Vysúvací panel

Navigačný kalendár

Október 2020

NNedeľaPPondelokUUtorokSStredaŠŠtvrtokPPiatokSSobota

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12, dnes

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Hľadať ľudí

Zoznam kalendárov

Moje kalendáre

·  Richard Miller

·  Narodeniny

·  Pripomenutia

·  Úlohy

Ďalšie kalendáre

·  Holidays in United States

Zmluvné podmienky – Ochrana súkromia

Týždeň – 11. októbra 2020, 2 udalosti

GMT-07

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Žiadne celodenné udalosti, nedeľa, 11. októbra

2 celodenné udalosti, pondelok, 12. októbra, dnes

Columbus DayCelý deň, Columbus Day, Kalendár: Holidays in United States, Prijaté, Bez údajov o mieste, 12. októbra 2020

Indigenous Peoples' DayCelý deň, Indigenous Peoples&#39; Day, Kalendár: Holidays in United States, Prijaté, Bez údajov o mieste, 12. októbra 2020

Žiadne celodenné udalosti, utorok, 13. októbra

Žiadne celodenné udalosti, streda, 14. októbra

Žiadne celodenné udalosti, štvrtok, 15. októbra

Žiadne celodenné udalosti, piatok, 16. októbra

Žiadne celodenné udalosti, sobota, 17. októbra

1 AM

2 AM

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Žiadne udalosti, nedeľa, 11. októbra

Žiadne udalosti, pondelok, 12. októbra

Žiadne udalosti, utorok, 13. októbra

Žiadne udalosti, streda, 14. októbra

Žiadne udalosti, štvrtok, 15. októbra

Žiadne udalosti, piatok, 16. októbra

Žiadne udalosti, sobota, 17. októbra

Načítané

 

 

As you can hear, this is definitely a foreign language. 

 

I am sending a “cc,” of this message to Vispero Support with the hope that either one of you or one of them will be able to put a finger on what is happening and possibly tell me how to rectify this problem and have Google Calendar start speaking in English.

 

Thank you for any help you can give.

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Paul Filpus
 

Hello Guys,

I tried Mike's 4-step procedure and it worked! I'm now able to listen to radio stations using the Chrome browser. I've noted the rest of the replies here, so I can get more good ideas of working with Adblocker.

Thanks to all,
Paul


moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

 

There is no statement from the original poster that there is any ad blocker, hence my comment.  Regardless of which one he may have installed, I'd give the following advice:

1. Ignore the demand it be turned off and try what you're trying to do anyway.  Very often these warnings are given solely because there is a desire to serve up ads, not because the function will not work when an ad blocker is on.  It's always worth trying.

2. As someone already mentioned, you can go to the Chrome Extensions page, ALT+F,L,E [Menu, More Tools option, Extensions], locate your ad block extension and either toggle it off (most likely) or remove it entirely (not a good idea).

3. If you find you do need to have the Ad Blocker disabled, then I'd take the effort to actually have it turn itself off for the site where you need it to be turned off without being disabled entirely.  I no longer use AdBlock Plus, so cannot tell you the exact steps to do this under that extension.  I went to uBlock Origin in all browsers that don't have ad-blocking built in quite a while back.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Mike B.
 


I believe he had installed the extension, Adblock Plus.
 

 
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Have you installed an ad-blocking extension in Chrome?  If not, there's nothing to be done, as Chrome (and most browsers, for that matter) do not have an ad-blocker built-in.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

 

Have you installed an ad-blocking extension in Chrome?  If not, there's nothing to be done, as Chrome (and most browsers, for that matter) do not have an ad-blocker built-in.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Mike B.
 

Hi again Paul,
 
Disregard steps 5 and 6.  This isn't the correct way to change the AdBlock Plus settings and I can't figure out how to do it as of yet.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers, Lakers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 2:39 AM
Subject: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Hello Listers,

 

I tried listening live to a local radio station using Google Chrome, but it said I’d have to disable Add Blocker first. How does one do that? I had no trouble listening to that station using IE.

 

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Mike B.
 

Try the following:
1. Open the menues with, Alt + F, and up arrow to, submenu More Tools, and press enter. 
 
2. Down arrow to, Extensions, and press enter.
 
3. Down arrow to find this AdBlocker extension and when you find it down arrow to the, Details button, and press the spacebar.  Now tab 1 time to, Extension Enabled Toggle button Pressed.
 
4. Press the spacebar so that Jaws reports, Extension Enabled Toggle button Not Pressed.  You might have to tab and shift tab back to it and if Jaws doesn't report, Pressed, it's off.
 
5. If you tab 2 more times you'll find   a list of 3 Ad Block settings that you use your up and down arrow keys to change.  These options are, On click clickable, On specific sites clickable and On all sites
 
6. After making any setting changes they should take place immediately, but closing and restarting Chrome is good to do just to make sure.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers, Lakers & Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 2:39 AM
Subject: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Hello Listers,

 

I tried listening live to a local radio station using Google Chrome, but it said I’d have to disable Add Blocker first. How does one do that? I had no trouble listening to that station using IE.

 

Thanks,

Paul Filpus

 


moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

James English
 

go to your extentions, find your adblocker and click disable.

On 10/12/20, Paul Filpus <Paulfilpus@gmail.com> wrote:
Correction: "ADD BLOCKER" should be spelled "AD BLOCKER".

Paul






moderated Re: How to disable "Add Blocker" in Google Chrom

Paul Filpus
 

Correction: "ADD BLOCKER" should be spelled "AD BLOCKER".

Paul

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