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moderated Re: Accessible typing test?

Jim Fettgather
 

Here is a free version of Talking Typer from APH, it is called Home
Typer Online, is free, and operates within your web browser.
It uses your screen reader's voice to speak the words and sentences,
and seems to work quite well. It is worth a try:

https://typer-beta.aphtech.org/lessons/

On 9/21/20, Betsy Binney <Meandbastet@gmail.com> wrote:
I typically use Talking Typer to test my clients. APH SELLS IT.

Betsy R. Binney
meandbastet@gmail.com
262-490-0109

On Sep 21, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Can anyone please suggest a typing speed test that can be used with
JAWS?

thanks a lot,

Ann










moderated Re: Accessible typing test?

Mario
 

if a simpler, more basic program is needed, check out Rocky's Audio Typing TutorV2

http://www.rockywaters.co.uk/softwarePage.php

I found it a few years ago, and it works quite well, very intuitive to use, and it's menu driven. I think it uses whatever screen reader you're using, or it maybe self voicing. I don't know if it works in Windows 10 as well as it did in Windows 7.

On 9/21/2020 4:04 PM, Betsy Binney wrote:
I typically use Talking Typer to test my clients. APH SELLS IT.
Betsy R. Binney
meandbastet@gmail.com
262-490-0109

On Sep 21, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Can anyone please suggest a typing speed test that can be used with JAWS?

thanks a lot,

Ann





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moderated Re: Accessible typing test?

Marty Hutchings
 

I believe that APH also has a program called Keystroke, which is free.



Love in Christ
Marty
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-----Original Message-----
From: Betsy Binney
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible typing test?

I typically use Talking Typer to test my clients. APH SELLS IT.

Betsy R. Binney
meandbastet@gmail.com
262-490-0109

On Sep 21, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Can anyone please suggest a typing speed test that can be used with JAWS?

thanks a lot,

Ann






moderated Re: synthesizer versus voice

David Diamond
 

I was chatting with someone from New Zealand and she told me some of her compatriots were mimicking the  U S accent. Thus it is not just the screen reader voices, it is Different nations voices.  Example, apparently Canadians and United States persons say aboot instead of about, according to the woman in N Z.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 21, 2020 9:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: synthesizer versus voice

 

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:20 PM, JM Casey wrote:

and this "uncanny valley" aspect is probably already nonexistent for some people.

-
I'd be one of those people, at least for certain voices under certain synthesizers.

It also really depends on just precisely what is being said.  There are voices that, to me, are "virtual perfection" in mimicking human speech until you get to one specific word that's seldom used or an inflection.  But even then, what sounds "normal" to me may very well sound "weird" to someone else.  One experiences that sensation quite often when listening to different human speakers.  (And I'm ignoring "as a second language" issues and regional accents for that sensation.)
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Dave Durber
 

Robin:

It is, CTRL+SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+J,to open the JAWS Menue.

Dave

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To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout


Dave, I don't see the conflict as a JAWS issue to fix. Because laptop layout assumes you do not have a numpad and uses the Caps lock key to allow your right hand on the QWERTY keys to act like a numpad for JAWS navigation, you would eliminate some of that functionality by repurposing the CAPS lock and J keys to open the JAWS menu. I ten to open the JAWS menu by going to the JAWS icon in the system tray and then using the application key to open the context menu. Now that I know of caps lock, shift control option suggested in earlier messages, I think that will become my new norm.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi Daniel,

This is one I learned from this list just a couple of days ago. The keystroke is Control + shift + caps lock to get to the menus from the JAWS laptop layout.

I also have a JAWS shortcut on my desktop, and if you just press enter on that you get into the menus. I also put JAWS in the tray, so I know this works.

I hope this helps.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel












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moderated Re: [External] Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Dave Durber
 

Steve:

DAA, I completely forgot about that. My old brain must have slipped a gear and got stuck.

Thanks for reminding me.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cook, Steve" <Steve.Cook@sccb.sc.gov>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [External] Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout


In laptop mode, caps lock key reads previous word. That's why it can't be used.

Thank You,
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951

www.sccb.state.sc.us



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Debbie:

I realize that CTRL+SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+J, will open the JAWS menue, when you have JAWS set to use the laptop keyboard layout but, why make it so complicated, when CAPS LOCK+J, would be so much simplar. I am not aware of any situation, where CAPS LOCK+J, is used to perform any function for Windows or any third-party software package.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Debby Hill" <dm-hill@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout


Hi Daniel,

This is one I learned from this list just a couple of days ago. The
keystroke is Control + shift + caps lock to get to the menus from the JAWS
laptop layout.

I also have a JAWS shortcut on my desktop, and if you just press enter on
that you get into the menus. I also put JAWS in the tray, so I know this
works.

I hope this helps.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the
system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the
only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that
instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is
different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel






















moderated Re: Accessible typing test?

Betsy Binney
 

I typically use Talking Typer to test my clients. APH SELLS IT.

Betsy R. Binney
meandbastet@gmail.com
262-490-0109

On Sep 21, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Can anyone please suggest a typing speed test that can be used with JAWS?

thanks a lot,

Ann






moderated Re: [External] Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Dave Durber
 

Steve:

The correct keystroke is, CTRL+SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+J, to open the JAWS menue.

HTH

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cook, Steve" <Steve.Cook@sccb.sc.gov>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [External] Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout


Press control shift and caps lock key HTH

Thank You,
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951

www.sccb.state.sc.us



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel











moderated Free accessible typing test?

Ann Byrne
 

I am resending this with Outlook because Eudora seems to have swallowed it.  If it arrives twice, sorry about that.

 

Can anyone please recommend a free typing test that is accessible with JAWS

 

Thanks,

 


moderated Free accessible typing test?

Ann Byrne
 

Can anyone recommend a free accessible typing test?

Thanks,


moderated Accessible typing test?

Ann Byrne
 

Can anyone please suggest a typing speed test that can be used with JAWS?

thanks a lot,

Ann


moderated Re: Excel and JAWS Question

Van Lant, Robin
 

This may be a case for using AIRA or asking the person who sent the file for a basic overview.  For example, my manager’s main file she uses for tracking each year’s group of interns has a list of all interns and multiple columns of data across the bottom, but the top of the worksheet has small tables where she is calculating various things like metrics on of hires by gender and school.  It took me a while to navigate around and try to determine each section of information.

 

Also note  I have found certain JAWS commands do not work if freeze panes is turned on.  Many sighted users use this feature to keep the left column visible as they navigate through the various columns to the right.  Similarly, they might turn this on to keep column headers visible.  JAWS wasn’t able to show me all cell comments while freze panes was on.  There must be a technical reason for this, as JAWS actually told me to unfreeze panes to make it work.  I need to email Vispero and ask why this is. 

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Daniel
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel and JAWS Question

 

Mike,

 

Spreadsheets can be written in formats from the sublime to the ridiculous.  As a totally blind user, I try to write down the headings and so get an idea of the organization of the spreadsheet.  However, since your co-worker is looking at a full screen and you are accessing the spreadsheet cell by cell, what you can learn depends entirely on the complexity of the spreadsheet itself.  No matter how you choose to learn about the functions of the spreadsheet, it’s going to take you longer than it would take a sighted person.  For complicated financial spreadsheets, even looking at the screen can be a daunting experience.

 

Greg

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 12:42 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Excel and JAWS Question

 

Hi,

 

What is the fastest way to get familiar with a large spreadsheet for the first time using JAWS, if you have no idea what is in it? My co-worker told me that as soon as she opens a spreadsheet, she can immediately see everything she needs to know on screen. I am trying to learn if there is a way to use a computer as fast as someone who can see in every situation. I am totally blind.

 

Thanks,

Mike

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moderated Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Excel and JAWS Question

Walker, Michael E
 

Thank you all for your responses. This makes sense about trying different keyboard shortcuts, to figure out what is best.

 

Mike

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Excel and JAWS Question

 

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Try moving down column A. Then using insert up arrow to read each line. Some of the smaller spreadsheets make it easier to understand that way.



On Sep 19, 2020, at 1:12 AM, Bob Kennedy <intheshop@...> wrote:




As far as being able to compete with a sighted user, the quick answer is no. You can get close if you have a fantastic memory and can remember all of the Jaws commands for reading. Don't mean to be discouraging, I'm being honest, which a lot of people don't like.

On Friday, September 18, 2020, 12:42:14 PM EDT, Walker, Michael E <michael.e.walker3@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi,

 

What is the fastest way to get familiar with a large spreadsheet for the first time using JAWS, if you have no idea what is in it? My co-worker told me that as soon as she opens a spreadsheet, she can immediately see everything she needs to know on screen. I am trying to learn if there is a way to use a computer as fast as someone who can see in every situation. I am totally blind.

 

Thanks,

Mike


moderated Re: synthesizer versus voice

 

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:20 PM, JM Casey wrote:
and this "uncanny valley" aspect is probably already nonexistent for some people.
-
I'd be one of those people, at least for certain voices under certain synthesizers.

It also really depends on just precisely what is being said.  There are voices that, to me, are "virtual perfection" in mimicking human speech until you get to one specific word that's seldom used or an inflection.  But even then, what sounds "normal" to me may very well sound "weird" to someone else.  One experiences that sensation quite often when listening to different human speakers.  (And I'm ignoring "as a second language" issues and regional accents for that sensation.)
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Van Lant, Robin
 

Dave, I don't see the conflict as a JAWS issue to fix. Because laptop layout assumes you do not have a numpad and uses the Caps lock key to allow your right hand on the QWERTY keys to act like a numpad for JAWS navigation, you would eliminate some of that functionality by repurposing the CAPS lock and J keys to open the JAWS menu. I ten to open the JAWS menu by going to the JAWS icon in the system tray and then using the application key to open the context menu. Now that I know of caps lock, shift control option suggested in earlier messages, I think that will become my new norm.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi Daniel,

This is one I learned from this list just a couple of days ago. The keystroke is Control + shift + caps lock to get to the menus from the JAWS laptop layout.

I also have a JAWS shortcut on my desktop, and if you just press enter on that you get into the menus. I also put JAWS in the tray, so I know this works.

I hope this helps.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel












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moderated Re: [External] Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Cook, Steve
 

In laptop mode, caps lock key reads previous word. That's why it can't be used.

Thank You,
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Debbie:

I realize that CTRL+SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+J, will open the JAWS menue, when you have JAWS set to use the laptop keyboard layout but, why make it so complicated, when CAPS LOCK+J, would be so much simplar. I am not aware of any situation, where CAPS LOCK+J, is used to perform any function for Windows or any third-party software package.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Debby Hill" <dm-hill@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout


Hi Daniel,

This is one I learned from this list just a couple of days ago. The
keystroke is Control + shift + caps lock to get to the menus from the JAWS
laptop layout.

I also have a JAWS shortcut on my desktop, and if you just press enter on
that you get into the menus. I also put JAWS in the tray, so I know this
works.

I hope this helps.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the
system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the
only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that
instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is
different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel


moderated Re: [External] Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Cook, Steve
 

Press control shift and caps lock key HTH

Thank You,
Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel


moderated Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Dave Durber
 


David:
 
If some of the INSERT+key keystrokes cannot be used by CAPS LOCK+key keystrokes, it would be nice to know why the CAPS LOCK cannot be substituted for the INSERT key. I would be curious as to why these substitutions cannot be made.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi Daniel,

 

There are a few commands for which the Insert and Caps Lock keys are not substitutable in laptop mode. Insert J to get to the JAWS menus is one of them, so you must hit Insert J, not Caps Lock J. Other keystrokes where you must use the Insert key are Insert W to get Windows keystroke help and Insert H to get JAWS keystroke help.

 

David


moderated Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Dave Durber
 

Debbie:

I realize that CTRL+SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+J, will open the JAWS menue, when you have JAWS set to use the laptop keyboard layout but, why make it so complicated, when CAPS LOCK+J, would be so much simplar. I am not aware of any situation, where CAPS LOCK+J, is used to perform any function for Windows or any third-party software package.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Debby Hill" <dm-hill@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout


Hi Daniel,

This is one I learned from this list just a couple of days ago. The keystroke is Control + shift + caps lock to get to the menus from the JAWS laptop layout.

I also have a JAWS shortcut on my desktop, and if you just press enter on that you get into the menus. I also put JAWS in the tray, so I know this works.

I hope this helps.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 6:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel


moderated Re: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout

Dave Durber
 

Daniel:

Not being able to access the JAWS menue with the CAPS LOCK+J key combination, has never been addressed by the programmers of JAWS, with the result that it has never been fixed. I do not know about other users of JAWS but, I have suggested they fix the problem several times over the years. Seemingly, they think there is not enough cudos and self-praise for them, in fixing such a small problem.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Wolak" <danielwolak97@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 11:24 AM
Subject: Accessing jaws menu in laptop layout


Hi all,

I have occasion to use the laptop layout with Jaws 2020.

However, I'm unable to access the jaws menu as I prefer to run it from the system tray.

When I use the keyboard shortcut of jaws key (capslock in this case)+j, the only thing that's announced is blank.

Interestingly, when I plug in a keyboard that has an insert key and use that instead of capslock it works perfectly.

Does anyone know if the key to access the jaws menu from system tray is different in laptop layout?

Jaws help doesn't seem to have the answer.

Thanks,


Daniel




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