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Re: Tricky PDF and JAWS issue
Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
www.crackmypdf.com can do password protected PDF's. The problem is most likely that the PDF is a bunch of images and not actual text so it cant read it. OCR'ing a text book for a class is very problematic since it always has errors and this can make it impossible to use in a school environment.
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On 9/14/2020 7:17 PM, netbat66 wrote:
i think there is also a setting to turn off protected mode. but i never had to go that far.
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Re: Tricky PDF and JAWS issue
netbat66
i think there is also a setting to turn off protected mode. but i never had to go that far.
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this probibly won't work if it has a password to copy the content of the files. but you could try importing them into openbook or docuscan if you have them. you could also try to convert them on line with https://www.robobraille.org/ they don't say if they can convert protected files though.
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From: Jim Portillo Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 6:44 PM To: Jim Portillo Subject: Tricky PDF and JAWS issue Greetings, I’ll attempt to explain my issue. I signed up to take a class, and the instructor is suggesting we have a specific book and workbook. I contacted the publisher, and he said that although he didn’t make the book available to people electronically, he would make it available to me provided I agree to some pretty sensible logistics. He has the original files used to print the books, and they are PDFs. These files are password protected, so I can view the files but not edit or change them. I guess there is another password, if I need it, for copying or printing. I tried reading the file with Adobe Acrobat Reader, but at first, I must not have had some screen reader settings turned on. I went ahead and set them up and tried rereading the book. Once it was done processing and I tried reading it, I just kept hearing “blank” whenever I scrolled down. I had an AIRA agent look at my screen, and he said there were definitely pages of text on my screen, but I guess JAWS wasn’t reading them. I tried doing a JAWS convenient OCR command, but when I tried putting in the password, it didn’t like it. I already paid for these files, so I can’t very well return or ask for my money back. I’m just wondering if I’m doing something wrong or if there’s something else I can try to get these two books to read. I was also going to try copying and pasting some of the material into a Word file, but I guess I’ll need the second password for that. I didn’t think I would. Is there perhaps some other setting in Adobe? I remember having a similar problem in the past, but that particular PDF wasn’t locked. I still couldn’t get it to read; although, I was able to get JAWS OCR to read most of it. If anyone has any ideas, I’d appreciate them. Thanks much. Jim
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Re: Tricky PDF and JAWS issue
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Another thought is to useWindows Explorer, and bring up the context menu and select recognize with Jaws, or whatever it is called and see if it will ask for the password and let you put it in then do the OCR process.
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You may have to dig through the settings in Adobe to find if there is another accessibility setting that should be set.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Sep 14, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote:
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Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
This may be hard to solve. If you have Microsoft 365, use Open with or SendTo and try opening the PDF in Word. Less likely, try opening it in K1000 if you happen to have that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 9:44 PM To: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@...> Subject: Tricky PDF and JAWS issue
Greetings,
I’ll attempt to explain my issue. I signed up to take a class, and the instructor is suggesting we have a specific book and workbook. I contacted the publisher, and he said that although he didn’t make the book available to people electronically, he would make it available to me provided I agree to some pretty sensible logistics. He has the original files used to print the books, and they are PDFs. These files are password protected, so I can view the files but not edit or change them. I guess there is another password, if I need it, for copying or printing. I tried reading the file with Adobe Acrobat Reader, but at first, I must not have had some screen reader settings turned on. I went ahead and set them up and tried rereading the book. Once it was done processing and I tried reading it, I just kept hearing “blank” whenever I scrolled down. I had an AIRA agent look at my screen, and he said there were definitely pages of text on my screen, but I guess JAWS wasn’t reading them. I tried doing a JAWS convenient OCR command, but when I tried putting in the password, it didn’t like it. I already paid for these files, so I can’t very well return or ask for my money back. I’m just wondering if I’m doing something wrong or if there’s something else I can try to get these two books to read. I was also going to try copying and pasting some of the material into a Word file, but I guess I’ll need the second password for that. I didn’t think I would. Is there perhaps some other setting in Adobe? I remember having a similar problem in the past, but that particular PDF wasn’t locked. I still couldn’t get it to read; although, I was able to get JAWS OCR to read most of it. If anyone has any ideas, I’d appreciate them. Thanks much. Jim
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Tricky PDF and JAWS issue
Jim Portillo
Greetings,
I’ll attempt to explain my issue. I signed up to take a class, and the instructor is suggesting we have a specific book and workbook. I contacted the publisher, and he said that although he didn’t make the book available to people electronically, he would make it available to me provided I agree to some pretty sensible logistics. He has the original files used to print the books, and they are PDFs. These files are password protected, so I can view the files but not edit or change them. I guess there is another password, if I need it, for copying or printing. I tried reading the file with Adobe Acrobat Reader, but at first, I must not have had some screen reader settings turned on. I went ahead and set them up and tried rereading the book. Once it was done processing and I tried reading it, I just kept hearing “blank” whenever I scrolled down. I had an AIRA agent look at my screen, and he said there were definitely pages of text on my screen, but I guess JAWS wasn’t reading them. I tried doing a JAWS convenient OCR command, but when I tried putting in the password, it didn’t like it. I already paid for these files, so I can’t very well return or ask for my money back. I’m just wondering if I’m doing something wrong or if there’s something else I can try to get these two books to read. I was also going to try copying and pasting some of the material into a Word file, but I guess I’ll need the second password for that. I didn’t think I would. Is there perhaps some other setting in Adobe? I remember having a similar problem in the past, but that particular PDF wasn’t locked. I still couldn’t get it to read; although, I was able to get JAWS OCR to read most of it. If anyone has any ideas, I’d appreciate them. Thanks much. Jim
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Re: Email from Amazon regarding a return
Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...>
Kevin,
I have not done this with the most recent Jaws2020 update but have with the previous version of Jaws 2020. The rest of my setup is same as yours. I have never had to forward to my iPhone as my Gmail account is on both my computer as well as iPhone. Can you install the email address you receive on your computer on your iPhone?
Alan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 6:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Email from Amazon regarding a return
Hello, I’m using windows10, Outlook 2016 and the most recent version of Jaws2020. When an item is returned to Amazon and email is sent with a QR code. Jaws doesn’t recognize the code. In the past I would print out the email and or forward it to my IPhone. This recent return the code doesn’t show up when I print it. Also it doesn’t appear in the email I forwarded to my IPhone. Is there something in Outlook that could be causing the code to disappear? I should say that when I look at the email on my IPhone, it says image removed by sender. I didn’t remove anything. Any thoughts? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Email from Amazon regarding a return
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Here is the text from the web site Brian provided: How to Download All Images Automatically You can allow Outlook to download images automatically by following these easy steps:
These steps work for Outlook 2019, 2016, 2013, and 2010 versions. If you are using the 2007 version, things are a little different. Here is how to set the automatic image download for this version:
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Email from Amazon regarding a return
How To Automatically Download Images In OutlookAlthough the "message removed by sender" does not seem to be consistent with an issue related to an image not downloading. I've encountered this on very rare occasions, but have never been able to determine a root cause, so don't be surprised
if Microsoft won't, either. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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How To Automatically Download Images In OutlookAlthough the "message removed by sender" does not seem to be consistent with an issue related to an image not downloading. I've encountered this on very rare occasions, but have never been able to determine a root cause, so don't be surprised if Microsoft won't, either.-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Email from Amazon regarding a return
Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
Make sure the images are loading because I guarantee it's a gif or some sort of picture. Usually in the email itself I often see a link saying load all images look for something like that and click on it.
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Randy Barnett
On Sep 14, 2020, at 3:46 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
It is an email from Amazon. I did talk to Amazon and they had no idea of why this happens. I will call Microsoft accessibility. Thanks, Kevin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
First, make sure it is really from Amazon.
The sender would be Amazon, not you.
I don’t know if Outlook has a setting to block images in email. I’d either call Microsoft Accessibility, or call Amazon customer service to see if they can help.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using windows10, Outlook 2016 and the most recent version of Jaws2020. When an item is returned to Amazon and email is sent with a QR code. Jaws doesn’t recognize the code. In the past I would print out the email and or forward it to my IPhone. This recent return the code doesn’t show up when I print it. Also it doesn’t appear in the email I forwarded to my IPhone. Is there something in Outlook that could be causing the code to disappear? I should say that when I look at the email on my IPhone, it says image removed by sender. I didn’t remove anything. Any thoughts? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Email from Amazon regarding a return
kevin meyers
It is an email from Amazon. I did talk to Amazon and they had no idea of why this happens. I will call Microsoft accessibility. Thanks, Kevin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 5:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Email from Amazon regarding a return
First, make sure it is really from Amazon.
The sender would be Amazon, not you.
I don’t know if Outlook has a setting to block images in email. I’d either call Microsoft Accessibility, or call Amazon customer service to see if they can help.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using windows10, Outlook 2016 and the most recent version of Jaws2020. When an item is returned to Amazon and email is sent with a QR code. Jaws doesn’t recognize the code. In the past I would print out the email and or forward it to my IPhone. This recent return the code doesn’t show up when I print it. Also it doesn’t appear in the email I forwarded to my IPhone. Is there something in Outlook that could be causing the code to disappear? I should say that when I look at the email on my IPhone, it says image removed by sender. I didn’t remove anything. Any thoughts? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Email from Amazon regarding a return
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
First, make sure it is really from Amazon.
The sender would be Amazon, not you.
I don’t know if Outlook has a setting to block images in email. I’d either call Microsoft Accessibility, or call Amazon customer service to see if they can help.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
kevin meyers
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 3:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Email from Amazon regarding a return
Hello, I’m using windows10, Outlook 2016 and the most recent version of Jaws2020. When an item is returned to Amazon and email is sent with a QR code. Jaws doesn’t recognize the code. In the past I would print out the email and or forward it to my IPhone. This recent return the code doesn’t show up when I print it. Also it doesn’t appear in the email I forwarded to my IPhone. Is there something in Outlook that could be causing the code to disappear? I should say that when I look at the email on my IPhone, it says image removed by sender. I didn’t remove anything. Any thoughts? Cheers, Kevin
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Email from Amazon regarding a return
kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using windows10, Outlook 2016 and the most recent version of Jaws2020. When an item is returned to Amazon and email is sent with a QR code. Jaws doesn’t recognize the code. In the past I would print out the email and or forward it to my IPhone. This recent return the code doesn’t show up when I print it. Also it doesn’t appear in the email I forwarded to my IPhone. Is there something in Outlook that could be causing the code to disappear? I should say that when I look at the email on my IPhone, it says image removed by sender. I didn’t remove anything. Any thoughts? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Is "Telehealth" a standardized app, and is it accessible?
Ward Dudley
Hi Richard,
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Whatever my doctors use works here with Jaws. Ward
On 9/14/2020 1:56 PM, Abraham Sweiss wrote:
Hi Richard,
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Re: Is "Telehealth" a standardized app, and is it accessible?
Cristóbal
Telehealth is more a term rather than a platform. I own a language interpreting agency and when we book interpreters for remote sessions it’s considered a telehealth appointment, but the platforms are usually Doxi.me, Facetime, Zoom or some other video conferencing platform. More often than not, it’ll be Doxi.me. You’ll likely end up getting a link that you click on where you’ll then be able to interact with your physician via video chat in your browser. I can’t speak to general accessibility stuff, since I broker out my work and haven’t actually done any of these assignments myself. I’d imagine though that accessibility shouldn’t be an issue. You can always reach out to your provider to let them know that you use assistive technology and your concerns. Maybe they can give you a test/dummy link to play with.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 11:32 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Is "Telehealth" a standardized app, and is it accessible?
Hi!
I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, all updated. Soon, I have a doctor who wants to do Telehealth with me. Is Telehealth a standardized app? That is, is it the same app that would be used by all doctors; like Zoom? Also, is it accessible with JAWS?
Thanks, Richard
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Abraham Sweiss
Hi Richard,
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Unfortunately no. Hopefully you’ll be able to work with your doctor and test their system out before your appointment. Thanks,abraham
On Sep 14, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
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Is "Telehealth" a standardized app, and is it accessible?
Richard B. McDonald
Hi!
I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020, all updated. Soon, I have a doctor who wants to do Telehealth with me. Is Telehealth a standardized app? That is, is it the same app that would be used by all doctors; like Zoom? Also, is it accessible with JAWS?
Thanks, Richard
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Re: Zoom and sharing computer sound
Van Lant, Robin
Maybe another option is to turn JAWS to speech on demand when you want to share the audio content. This is done with insert Spacebar, then s. The same keystrokes toggle speech back on. I do this is someone calls me via the softphone in my computer when I do not have headphones in.
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Robin
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shai Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 11:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Zoom and sharing computer sound Hello Afik, Thank you for your reply. If the devices were the same in JAWS and Zoom, then the sound of JAWS would be emitted on the other person's computer if I shared computer sound. I am trying not to have JAWS heard on the other side and just the audio of the music or occasionally video from Youtube that I would be playing. On 9/12/20, Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...> wrote:
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Re: Quick Books
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Exactly, and companies like Intuit certainly would take security very seriously and their measures to protect your data not just from unauthorized access but also from corruption due to a faulty drive are probably better than what most users do. They would have multiple failsafes in place, redundant backups etc.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Quick Books The same could be said for Apple with your iPhone, or Google for Android. At some point, you have to trust someone. For example, if you back up to iCloud, or to Google Drive, what is to say your data is not being compromised? What about your contacts? Most of us store them in the cloud. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@... W: https://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: 12 September 2020 18:32 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Quick Books I guess that is fine if you trust Intuit to not share your data, not get breached and to secure things properly, but how do you know all these things are so? On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:13:14 -0400, Steve Nutt wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@...
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Re: Quick Books
Steve Nutt
The same could be said for Apple with your iPhone, or Google for Android.
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At some point, you have to trust someone. For example, if you back up to iCloud, or to Google Drive, what is to say your data is not being compromised? What about your contacts? Most of us store them in the cloud. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@... W: https://www.comproom.co.uk
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: 12 September 2020 18:32 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Quick Books I guess that is fine if you trust Intuit to not share your data, not get breached and to secure things properly, but how do you know all these things are so? On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:13:14 -0400, Steve Nutt wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@...
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Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Windows 10 has adopted the same language as phones. So Apps, in Microsoft's world, are somewhat synonymous with programs.
Here are steps from another member:
Here is the steps to tell Windows to let you install non Windows Store apps This will fix your problem. 1. Click Start > Click Settings. 2. In the Settings window, click Apps. 3. In Apps & Features, change “Choose where to get apps” from The Microsoft Store only (recommended) to Anywhere. 4. Close the Settings window. The change will only take effect when you close the window. I noticed there are four options, 1. only from the Microsoft Store, 2. anywhere, but warn me if tit is not from the Microsoft store, 3. anywhere but let me know if there is a comparable app in the Microsoft store, and 4. Anywhere.HTH,.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Sep 13, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:
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