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moderated Re: Using grubhub

tina sohl
 

good to know about grubhub. I haven't tried it with jaws. The last time I tried it with a different screen reader on my laptop it didn't work out so well so we'll have to try it with jaws sometime. Sent for my Samsung Galaxy


On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 6:09 PM Charles Krugman <ckrugman@...> wrote:

I use it all the time on the computer and have not encountered any difficulties. I don’t recall coming across the captcha feature you are referring to.

Chuck

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using grubhub

 

Hello, I’m using Jaws 202 and windows most recent versions. The browser is Chrome and I just installed it the other day. Has anyone used Grubhub? I’m having a problem turning on the I’m not a robot. I do press the space bar and it doesn’t tell me it is checked. I did start over and pressed that one time thinking I turned it on. I then had to listen to audio  and enter the words. I was able to do it. Yet I couldn’t get off that page. There was no error message saying something was wrong. I do have an account. I cleared out browser data and still the same problems. Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin




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moderated Re: Using grubhub

Charles Krugman
 

I use it all the time on the computer and have not encountered any difficulties. I don’t recall coming across the captcha feature you are referring to.

Chuck

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 5:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using grubhub

 

Hello, I’m using Jaws 202 and windows most recent versions. The browser is Chrome and I just installed it the other day. Has anyone used Grubhub? I’m having a problem turning on the I’m not a robot. I do press the space bar and it doesn’t tell me it is checked. I did start over and pressed that one time thinking I turned it on. I then had to listen to audio  and enter the words. I was able to do it. Yet I couldn’t get off that page. There was no error message saying something was wrong. I do have an account. I cleared out browser data and still the same problems. Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin




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moderated Re: Using grubhub

Andy
 

I tend to use the iPhone apps for these kinds of services.  in general I have found that the apps are much easier to use than the web sites.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 5:37 PM
Subject: Using grubhub

Hello, I’m using Jaws 202 and windows most recent versions. The browser is Chrome and I just installed it the other day. Has anyone used Grubhub? I’m having a problem turning on the I’m not a robot. I do press the space bar and it doesn’t tell me it is checked. I did start over and pressed that one time thinking I turned it on. I then had to listen to audio  and enter the words. I was able to do it. Yet I couldn’t get off that page. There was no error message saying something was wrong. I do have an account. I cleared out browser data and still the same problems. Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Using grubhub

kevin meyers
 

Hello, I’m using Jaws 202 and windows most recent versions. The browser is Chrome and I just installed it the other day. Has anyone used Grubhub? I’m having a problem turning on the I’m not a robot. I do press the space bar and it doesn’t tell me it is checked. I did start over and pressed that one time thinking I turned it on. I then had to listen to audio  and enter the words. I was able to do it. Yet I couldn’t get off that page. There was no error message saying something was wrong. I do have an account. I cleared out browser data and still the same problems. Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Jaws extension to read math content

Leo
 

Hello everyone!

 

Someone shared in other list this info, and I thought it may be useful for some of you. In a nutshell, the following website in github  provides extensions for screen readers to read math content. Have a look at

https://github.com/tseykovets/nvmathviewer

 

 

--
Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,


moderated Re: I have a stubborn Bluetooth speaker that doesn't cooperate with the JAWS feature to not cut off speech or let it start without cutting off the beginning of speech.

Cohn, Jonathan
 

This sounds like possibly a speaker setting if there are any. Early MP3 players used to behave like this to make it sound like you were listening to a radio station where the DJ fades in one song as the previous song is ending.
Something at least to research!
Jonathan Cohn


On Sep 11, 2020, at 23:35, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:

Hi.

 

I have a Polaroid Bluetooth speaker that starts with a low volume when trying to listen to speech. I thought the new feature of JAWS would solve this problem, but it doesn’t.

 

Any ideas? It has decent sound, and the battery life is good. I’d like to take this speaker into my bedroom to listen to music to sleep with, and I guess it’s good enough for that, but I’d also like JAWS to work so I could check email if I want with my Bluetooth keyboard. Is there any hope for this, or am I stuck?

 

Thanks in advance.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin and Jilly



moderated Re: Isue with setting up an older braille display with JAWS and Pc.

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Well can't you just connect to PC?

On 9/12/2020 9:49 AM, Justin Mcdevitt wrote:

Hello group,

 

Earlier today, I initiated the process of setting up my apex with JAWS and Windows to use as a braille display with my home Pc.

Prior to this, I had wondered if given when the Apex came onto the market, that its compatibility with Windows10 might be an issue. It turns out that it is indeed a problem.

One of the Technical reps from Human ware suggested that I purchase a Bluetooth Dongle which might resolve the compatibility issue, though he was not certain of this. He also couldn't suggest a specific Dongal, as there are any number of types to choose from.

I understand that Apex technology is ageing out. However, at this point, I do not have $5K to purchase a Braillenote.

Has anyone here encountered this same issue with respect to the Apex, or other braille displays. Whether yes or no, any input is appreciated.

 

Best to all, Justin


moderated Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

Richard Turner
 

Thank you Loy,

I noticed there are four options, 1. only from the Microsoft Store, 2.  anywhere, but warn me if tit is not from the Microsoft store, 3.  anywhere but let me know if there is a comparable app in the Microsoft store, and 4.  Anywhere.

 

That should help in the future.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

 

Here is the steps to tell Windows to let you install non Windows Store apps  This will fix your problem.

1.    Click Start > Click Settings.

2.    In the Settings window, click Apps.

3.    In Apps & Features, change “Choose where to get apps” from The Microsoft Store only (recommended) to Anywhere.

4.    Close the Settings window. The change will only take effect when you close the window.

----- Original Message -----

From: Randy Meyer

Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:26 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

 

Dear Listers:

 

I understand that  the new JAWS 2021 Beta version has just come out.  I am trying to install it.  I am using a Desktop computer, Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.  I have downloaded and saved the application for the new Beta version but when I go to the folder where it is and hit the Enter key after locating it, instead of giving me the option to install it I am getting a dialog that just says “get app from store.”  I know apps are only used with phones and I don’t know how to handle apps as I have only a cell phone, not an i-phone, so I don’t know how to rectify this problem and download the Beta version to my Desktop.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

Here is the steps to tell Windows to let you install non Windows Store apps  This will fix your problem.
  1. Click Start > Click Settings.
  2. In the Settings window, click Apps.
  3. In Apps & Features, change “Choose where to get apps” from The Microsoft Store only (recommended) to Anywhere.
  4. Close the Settings window. The change will only take effect when you close the window.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:26 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

 

Dear Listers:

 

I understand that  the new JAWS 2021 Beta version has just come out.  I am trying to install it.  I am using a Desktop computer, Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.  I have downloaded and saved the application for the new Beta version but when I go to the folder where it is and hit the Enter key after locating it, instead of giving me the option to install it I am getting a dialog that just says “get app from store.”  I know apps are only used with phones and I don’t know how to handle apps as I have only a cell phone, not an i-phone, so I don’t know how to rectify this problem and download the Beta version to my Desktop.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2021 Beta Install freezes

Richard Turner
 

Have you tried unloading jaws immediately after hitting the install?

That lets the jaws runtime version take over speech.

Or, Maybe try running Narrator instead of leaving Jaws running when trying to install the beta?

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 Beta Install freezes

 

When installing the JAWS 2021 beta, the install froze at 50 percent on one of my computers.  It installed no problem on the other.  They are both running windows 10.

 

Does anyone have any thoughts?  Trying to reinstall just freezes at 50 percent repeatedly.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Quicken accessibility

 

I am a long time user of Quicken.

I always thought that Quicken accessibility was not good.

 

I am aware that Quicken and QuickBooks are now managed by different companies.

 

Is Quicken accessibility as good as what has been written recently in this discussion list as QuickBooks?

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

 

That should open the program as maximized, but a friend had the same problem and he only had to press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize and it took care of the problem.  I guess sometimes the screen won't maximize on its own like it's supposed to.  At least that was the problem in his case, maybe it won't work for you but it's only something to try.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Onwardbob

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

 

Mike I have Outlook maxed in propertys. Is that what you mean?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Bob,
 
Make sure the screen is maximized.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Not for me using Outlook 2010

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

I just installed the beta and in Outlook 2016 from Microsoft 365 it reads
who it is from, subject, etc., just like always.

Did you migrate your settings from the release version?

 


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

When using 2021 the up and down arrows are moving up and down through my
E-mail but not reading as it does. Insert up arrow reads.???

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:29 AM
To: JList
Subject: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Hi All,
 
Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit systems, what's new
in this release and a link to the FSCast that has demonstrations.
 
 
Download Link 32 & 64 Bit:
 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjaws2021.v
fo.digital%2F2021.2009.13.400%2F7B55F25C-8F3C-4D14-AB6F-7EEBF4&amp;data=02%7
C01%7C%7C3a75e8bce8e44fdd49b508d855d6822a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
%7C1%7C0%7C637353727071695181&amp;sdata=sTXlkUbOIsRxAdswjmg%2FFnx37O%2B2TsV2
%2BPgj%2BQW2xmA%3D&amp;reserved=0
ACAC57/J2021.2009.13.400-any.exe
 

. FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features
in the upcoming 2021 release.
 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.freed
omscientific.com%2Farchive-of-fsopenline-from-august-2020%2F&amp;data=02%7C0
1%7C%7C3a75e8bce8e44fdd49b508d855d6822a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7
C1%7C0%7C637353727071695181&amp;sdata=v%2BMQHGsmvqrQqlZRprJxnvGWQQtg9gylSR0x
K8Vuwx4%3D&amp;reserved=0
 
 
. New Features in 2021
 
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 PictureSmart
Improvements
 
Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to choose a
photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then
displayed in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture Smart layer. You can
then press A to describe a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed
scanner, F to describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to
describe the current control, or B to describe an image on the Windows
Clipboard.
 
JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering several
improvements including:
 
list of 3 items
. Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image that is part of a
web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed
by C now describes the photo.
. Submitting images to multiple services to help improve accuracy: By
default, images are submitted to Microsoft for analyzing. However, the
Results Viewer now contains a More Results link which submits the image
again to additional services for analyzing and displays an updated
description. You can also add SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use
multiple services. For example,
INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B.
. Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are using JAWS or Fusion
in a language other than English and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS
and Fusion will use machine translation to display descriptions in the
particular language. You can also manually choose from 38 languages for
displaying results, configurable using the new Picture Smart Language option
in Settings Center.
list end
 
Please note that these changes, especially the machine translation for other
languages, is still experimental, so things may not always work as expected.
Results will improve as we continue refining this functionality.
 
For more information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by
QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help.
 
OCR Text Directly into a Word Document
 
The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature has been enhanced
to support sending recognized text directly to Word. Convenient OCR enables
you to access images containing text that is part of the image and displays
this information in the Results Viewer. This includes onscreen images such
as the graphical setup screen for an application, an inaccessible PDF opened
in Adobe Reader, a currently selected image file in Windows Explorer, or a
document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner.
 
If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can now:
 
list of 2 items
. Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R to perform OCR on a
selected image file in File Explorer or the Desktop and place the recognized
text directly into a Word document. You can also press the APPLICATIONS key
and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS or Fusion from the context menu.
. Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of the Results
Viewer once the OCR process is complete.
list end
 
For more information about using Convenient OCR, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O
followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS
help.
 
New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Commands
and Features
 
The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS, ZoomText, and
Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input. Supported languages include
English, Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out with
various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech. This means that the
same action can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a
single predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS Settings
Center, you could say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike
keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands
are an easier way to interact with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using
voice input to control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain
conditions which prevent them from using a keyboard effectively.
 
The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you can
talk to it using an external microphone or headset. To tell the Voice
Assistant to begin listening for a specific command, there are three
options:
 
list of 2 items
. Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for
ZoomText and Fusion).
. Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to begin listening for
a voice command, similar to using an Alexa or Google Home device. The wake
word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion. Speak this
word followed by a specific JAWS or ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list
links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level."
list end
 
Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth
microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the
voice command.
 
list of 1 items
. From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the Utilities menu, expand
the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk to JAWS. From the ZoomText
or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText.
list end
 
When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a short audio
indicator plays, and a visual indicator is displayed. After hearing a voice
command, a different audio indicator plays until the command is processed.
After processing, the visual indicator is removed, a different, short, audio
indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is performed.
 
If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message, "Sorry, I didn't
hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice Assistant does not understand or if
the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I didn't catch
that" is spoken.
 
Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed over the Internet
using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there will be a slight delay
depending on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different
commands. This is a new technology being added to our software products and
will continue to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions
and feedback.
 
To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as whether or
not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake word or to turn off the sounds, do
one of the following:
 
list of 2 items
. For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant
submenu, and then select Settings.
. For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press DOWN ARROW on the
Voice Assistant drop down button, and select Settings.
list end
 
To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for specific
actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You can also select Getting
Started from the Voice Assistant menu.
 
Here are a few commands you can try to help you get started.
 
For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before
speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
. Help
. Talk faster
. Talk slower
. Change settings
. Command search
. What time is it
. OCR PDF
. List links
. List headings
. List spelling errors
list end
 
For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press CAPS
LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
. Increase zoom level
. Zoom out
. Set zoom level to 5
. Where is my focus
. What time is it
. Activate speech
. Talk faster
. Open Reader app view
. Launch finder
. Change the color enhancement scheme
list end
 
Improved Microsoft Teams Support
list of 6 items
. If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list which opens the
inaccessible document viewer, you can now press ESC to return to the files
list. You are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open the
document in the desktop application, which is the suggested method.
. You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to the first five tab
pages.
. Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates the back button from
anywhere in Teams.
. You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress.
. You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree view, if visible.
Note that it is usually only visible if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the
teams and channels list. The screen should also be maximized to ensure this
control is visible.
. Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting.
list end
 
Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate windows with
fewer controls. To do this, press CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select
the check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New meetings and
calls will open in separate windows. Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS
specific keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split mode,
Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review by pressing
CTRL+PERIOD.
 
New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level
 
You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle through the four
punctuation levels which controls how much punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak
while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and All. Similar
to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the
punctuation level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or
Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level, use the JAWS
Startup Wizard or Settings Center.
 
Announce Most Recent Windows Notification
 
You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by N to
have JAWS repeat the last notification that was spoken. Notifications
include an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new email
in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille display, you can also press
RIGHT
SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows
SHIFT+notifications,
use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A.
 
FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information
 
The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects information about your
computer and sends a report to our Technical Support and Software
Development teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be experiencing
while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will typically be asked to run
this utility during a technical support session if it is determined that
additional details about your system are needed. Some information that is
collected
includes:
 
list of 9 items
. System information such as processor, RAM, operating system, architecture,
and more . Event logs . Version of Adobe Reader (if installed) . Versions of
all installed web browsers . Information on installed Microsoft Office
applications . Crash dumps . Installation logs . Currently running system
processes . User settings list end
 
The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS, or the
Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you through collecting and
submitting a report.
 
Announce Accessible Notification Events
 
By default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows generated accessible
event notifications in both speech and braille. These types of notifications
are found in a variety of places including business bars in Microsoft
Office. If you do not want to hear these announcements, open Settings Center
and clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check box.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!














moderated JAWS 2021 Beta Install freezes

Randy Meyer
 

When installing the JAWS 2021 beta, the install froze at 50 percent on one of my computers.  It installed no problem on the other.  They are both running windows 10.

 

Does anyone have any thoughts?  Trying to reinstall just freezes at 50 percent repeatedly.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Quicken accessibility

 

I am a long time user of Quicken.

I always thought that Quicken accessibility was not good.

 

I am aware that Quicken and QuickBooks are now managed by different companies.

 

Is Quicken accessibility as good as what has been written recently in this discussion list as QuickBooks?

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

 

That should open the program as maximized, but a friend had the same problem and he only had to press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize and it took care of the problem.  I guess sometimes the screen won't maximize on its own like it's supposed to.  At least that was the problem in his case, maybe it won't work for you but it's only something to try.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Onwardbob

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

 

Mike I have Outlook maxed in propertys. Is that what you mean?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Bob,
 
Make sure the screen is maximized.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Not for me using Outlook 2010

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

I just installed the beta and in Outlook 2016 from Microsoft 365 it reads
who it is from, subject, etc., just like always.

Did you migrate your settings from the release version?

 


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

When using 2021 the up and down arrows are moving up and down through my
E-mail but not reading as it does. Insert up arrow reads.???

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:29 AM
To: JList
Subject: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Hi All,
 
Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit systems, what's new
in this release and a link to the FSCast that has demonstrations.
 
 
Download Link 32 & 64 Bit:
 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjaws2021.v
fo.digital%2F2021.2009.13.400%2F7B55F25C-8F3C-4D14-AB6F-7EEBF4&amp;data=02%7
C01%7C%7C3a75e8bce8e44fdd49b508d855d6822a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa
%7C1%7C0%7C637353727071695181&amp;sdata=sTXlkUbOIsRxAdswjmg%2FFnx37O%2B2TsV2
%2BPgj%2BQW2xmA%3D&amp;reserved=0
ACAC57/J2021.2009.13.400-any.exe
 

. FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features
in the upcoming 2021 release.
 
https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.freed
omscientific.com%2Farchive-of-fsopenline-from-august-2020%2F&amp;data=02%7C0
1%7C%7C3a75e8bce8e44fdd49b508d855d6822a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7
C1%7C0%7C637353727071695181&amp;sdata=v%2BMQHGsmvqrQqlZRprJxnvGWQQtg9gylSR0x
K8Vuwx4%3D&amp;reserved=0
 
 
. New Features in 2021
 
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 PictureSmart
Improvements
 
Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to choose a
photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then
displayed in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture Smart layer. You can
then press A to describe a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed
scanner, F to describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to
describe the current control, or B to describe an image on the Windows
Clipboard.
 
JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering several
improvements including:
 
list of 3 items
. Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image that is part of a
web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed
by C now describes the photo.
. Submitting images to multiple services to help improve accuracy: By
default, images are submitted to Microsoft for analyzing. However, the
Results Viewer now contains a More Results link which submits the image
again to additional services for analyzing and displays an updated
description. You can also add SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use
multiple services. For example,
INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B.
. Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are using JAWS or Fusion
in a language other than English and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS
and Fusion will use machine translation to display descriptions in the
particular language. You can also manually choose from 38 languages for
displaying results, configurable using the new Picture Smart Language option
in Settings Center.
list end
 
Please note that these changes, especially the machine translation for other
languages, is still experimental, so things may not always work as expected.
Results will improve as we continue refining this functionality.
 
For more information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by
QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help.
 
OCR Text Directly into a Word Document
 
The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature has been enhanced
to support sending recognized text directly to Word. Convenient OCR enables
you to access images containing text that is part of the image and displays
this information in the Results Viewer. This includes onscreen images such
as the graphical setup screen for an application, an inaccessible PDF opened
in Adobe Reader, a currently selected image file in Windows Explorer, or a
document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner.
 
If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can now:
 
list of 2 items
. Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R to perform OCR on a
selected image file in File Explorer or the Desktop and place the recognized
text directly into a Word document. You can also press the APPLICATIONS key
and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS or Fusion from the context menu.
. Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of the Results
Viewer once the OCR process is complete.
list end
 
For more information about using Convenient OCR, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O
followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS
help.
 
New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Commands
and Features
 
The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS, ZoomText, and
Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input. Supported languages include
English, Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out with
various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech. This means that the
same action can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a
single predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS Settings
Center, you could say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike
keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands
are an easier way to interact with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using
voice input to control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain
conditions which prevent them from using a keyboard effectively.
 
The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you can
talk to it using an external microphone or headset. To tell the Voice
Assistant to begin listening for a specific command, there are three
options:
 
list of 2 items
. Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for
ZoomText and Fusion).
. Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to begin listening for
a voice command, similar to using an Alexa or Google Home device. The wake
word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion. Speak this
word followed by a specific JAWS or ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list
links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level."
list end
 
Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth
microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the
voice command.
 
list of 1 items
. From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the Utilities menu, expand
the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk to JAWS. From the ZoomText
or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText.
list end
 
When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a short audio
indicator plays, and a visual indicator is displayed. After hearing a voice
command, a different audio indicator plays until the command is processed.
After processing, the visual indicator is removed, a different, short, audio
indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is performed.
 
If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message, "Sorry, I didn't
hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice Assistant does not understand or if
the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I didn't catch
that" is spoken.
 
Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed over the Internet
using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there will be a slight delay
depending on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different
commands. This is a new technology being added to our software products and
will continue to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions
and feedback.
 
To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as whether or
not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake word or to turn off the sounds, do
one of the following:
 
list of 2 items
. For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant
submenu, and then select Settings.
. For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press DOWN ARROW on the
Voice Assistant drop down button, and select Settings.
list end
 
To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for specific
actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You can also select Getting
Started from the Voice Assistant menu.
 
Here are a few commands you can try to help you get started.
 
For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before
speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
. Help
. Talk faster
. Talk slower
. Change settings
. Command search
. What time is it
. OCR PDF
. List links
. List headings
. List spelling errors
list end
 
For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press CAPS
LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
. Increase zoom level
. Zoom out
. Set zoom level to 5
. Where is my focus
. What time is it
. Activate speech
. Talk faster
. Open Reader app view
. Launch finder
. Change the color enhancement scheme
list end
 
Improved Microsoft Teams Support
list of 6 items
. If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list which opens the
inaccessible document viewer, you can now press ESC to return to the files
list. You are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open the
document in the desktop application, which is the suggested method.
. You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to the first five tab
pages.
. Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates the back button from
anywhere in Teams.
. You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress.
. You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree view, if visible.
Note that it is usually only visible if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the
teams and channels list. The screen should also be maximized to ensure this
control is visible.
. Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting.
list end
 
Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate windows with
fewer controls. To do this, press CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select
the check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New meetings and
calls will open in separate windows. Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS
specific keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split mode,
Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review by pressing
CTRL+PERIOD.
 
New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level
 
You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle through the four
punctuation levels which controls how much punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak
while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and All. Similar
to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the
punctuation level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or
Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level, use the JAWS
Startup Wizard or Settings Center.
 
Announce Most Recent Windows Notification
 
You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by N to
have JAWS repeat the last notification that was spoken. Notifications
include an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new email
in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille display, you can also press
RIGHT
SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows
SHIFT+notifications,
use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A.
 
FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information
 
The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects information about your
computer and sends a report to our Technical Support and Software
Development teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be experiencing
while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will typically be asked to run
this utility during a technical support session if it is determined that
additional details about your system are needed. Some information that is
collected
includes:
 
list of 9 items
. System information such as processor, RAM, operating system, architecture,
and more . Event logs . Version of Adobe Reader (if installed) . Versions of
all installed web browsers . Information on installed Microsoft Office
applications . Crash dumps . Installation logs . Currently running system
processes . User settings list end
 
The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS, or the
Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you through collecting and
submitting a report.
 
Announce Accessible Notification Events
 
By default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows generated accessible
event notifications in both speech and braille. These types of notifications
are found in a variety of places including business bars in Microsoft
Office. If you do not want to hear these announcements, open Settings Center
and clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check box.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!















moderated Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

Randy Meyer
 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:26 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

 

Dear Listers:

 

I understand that  the new JAWS 2021 Beta version has just come out.  I am trying to install it.  I am using a Desktop computer, Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.  I have downloaded and saved the application for the new Beta version but when I go to the folder where it is and hit the Enter key after locating it, instead of giving me the option to install it I am getting a dialog that just says “get app from store.”  I know apps are only used with phones and I don’t know how to handle apps as I have only a cell phone, not an i-phone, so I don’t know how to rectify this problem and download the Beta version to my Desktop.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Quick Books

John Covici
 

I guess that is fine if you trust Intuit to not share your data, not
get breached and to secure things properly, but how do you know all
these things are so?

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 12:13:14 -0400,
Steve Nutt wrote:

Yep, I use it on Android and iOS.

It's great.

All the best

Steve

--
Computer Room Services
77 Exeter Close
Stevenage
Hertfordshire
SG1 4PW
T: +44(0)1438-742286
M: +44(0)7956-334938
F: +44(0)1438-759589
E: steve@comproom.co.uk
W: https://www.comproom.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 11 September 2020 14:50
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Quick Books

Has anyone used Quick Books on a smart phone?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 6:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Quick Books

Hi,

Quickbooks Online is the best route to go, as it is accessible with any
screen reader.

All the best

Steve

--
Computer Room Services
77 Exeter Close
Stevenage
Hertfordshire
SG1 4PW
T: +44(0)1438-742286
M: +44(0)7956-334938
F: +44(0)1438-759589
E: steve@comproom.co.uk
W:
https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.compro
om.co.uk%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc09446bc4c5d4337505608d85658a9d4%7C84df9e7
fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637354286087617798&amp;sdata=FfrtnUtR6oT
3U9f5%2BjWtSW1t6Dp78GFtaC1r3W9L6ec%3D&amp;reserved=0

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: 02 September 2020 15:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Quick Books

Is quick books accessible with JAWS? When I worked with it years ago, it
was pretty manageable. Is it still?

Thx,

















--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Isue with setting up an older braille display with JAWS and Pc.

Chris Hill
 

I don't think bits matter here;64-bit operating systems can use older 32-bit drivers.  The real problem here likely has to do with bluetooth, and I agree with the other poster, USB is more likely to work.



On 9/12/2020 10:51, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Justin:
 
The question is: if the Apex is to be used as a braille display with a screen reader, can it be used with both 32 BIT and 64 BIT operating systems, given that 32 BIT operating systems, can run on 64 BIT systems?
 
Dave Durber
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 2:49 PM
Subject: Isue with setting up an older braille display with JAWS and Pc.

Hello group,

 

Earlier today, I initiated the process of setting up my apex with JAWS and Windows to use as a braille display with my home Pc.

Prior to this, I had wondered if given when the Apex came onto the market, that its compatibility with Windows10 might be an issue. It turns out that it is indeed a problem.

One of the Technical reps from Human ware suggested that I purchase a Bluetooth Dongle which might resolve the compatibility issue, though he was not certain of this. He also couldn't suggest a specific Dongal, as there are any number of types to choose from.

I understand that Apex technology is ageing out. However, at this point, I do not have $5K to purchase a Braillenote.

Has anyone here encountered this same issue with respect to the Apex, or other braille displays. Whether yes or no, any input is appreciated.

 

Best to all, Justin


moderated Re: Isue with setting up an older braille display with JAWS and Pc.

Dave Durber
 

Hello Justin:
 
The question is: if the Apex is to be used as a braille display with a screen reader, can it be used with both 32 BIT and 64 BIT operating systems, given that 32 BIT operating systems, can run on 64 BIT systems?
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 2:49 PM
Subject: Isue with setting up an older braille display with JAWS and Pc.

Hello group,

 

Earlier today, I initiated the process of setting up my apex with JAWS and Windows to use as a braille display with my home Pc.

Prior to this, I had wondered if given when the Apex came onto the market, that its compatibility with Windows10 might be an issue. It turns out that it is indeed a problem.

One of the Technical reps from Human ware suggested that I purchase a Bluetooth Dongle which might resolve the compatibility issue, though he was not certain of this. He also couldn't suggest a specific Dongal, as there are any number of types to choose from.

I understand that Apex technology is ageing out. However, at this point, I do not have $5K to purchase a Braillenote.

Has anyone here encountered this same issue with respect to the Apex, or other braille displays. Whether yes or no, any input is appreciated.

 

Best to all, Justin


moderated missing sound card in Virtual Recorder

Mario
 

using the portable version of virtual recorder 1.4.0.2 and selecting the sound card as the recording source, I just noticed that the device combo box does not include the mother board built in Realtek sound card. can anyone explain to me why, and more importantly what I can do to fix the issue?


moderated Re: Isue with setting up an older braille display with JAWS and Pc.

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Usually, I have seen bluetooth dongles used the other way around, for bluetooth devices that were being connected to computer that did not have Bluetooth or had an older version of bluetooth. I have used an APEX with Windows  10 but primary stick to connecting with USB. Is USB not a possibility for you? 
Also, were you getting any specific issues, or was pairing just timing out. One thing about notetakers is that they act like both computers and devices when using bluetooth. You can connect a bluetooth speaker to them, but you can also use them as a braille display so you need to carefully follow the pairing instructions.
Jonathan


On Sep 12, 2020, at 09:49, Justin Mcdevitt <jhmcdev@...> wrote:

Hello group,
 
Earlier today, I initiated the process of setting up my apex with JAWS and Windows to use as a braille display with my home Pc.
Prior to this, I had wondered if given when the Apex came onto the market, that its compatibility with Windows10 might be an issue. It turns out that it is indeed a problem.
One of the Technical reps from Human ware suggested that I purchase a Bluetooth Dongle which might resolve the compatibility issue, though he was not certain of this. He also couldn't suggest a specific Dongal, as there are any number of types to choose from.
I understand that Apex technology is ageing out. However, at this point, I do not have $5K to purchase a Braillenote.
Has anyone here encountered this same issue with respect to the Apex, or other braille displays. Whether yes or no, any input is appreciated.
 
Best to all, Justin


moderated Isue with setting up an older braille display with JAWS and Pc.

Justin Mcdevitt
 

Hello group,

 

Earlier today, I initiated the process of setting up my apex with JAWS and Windows to use as a braille display with my home Pc.

Prior to this, I had wondered if given when the Apex came onto the market, that its compatibility with Windows10 might be an issue. It turns out that it is indeed a problem.

One of the Technical reps from Human ware suggested that I purchase a Bluetooth Dongle which might resolve the compatibility issue, though he was not certain of this. He also couldn't suggest a specific Dongal, as there are any number of types to choose from.

I understand that Apex technology is ageing out. However, at this point, I do not have $5K to purchase a Braillenote.

Has anyone here encountered this same issue with respect to the Apex, or other braille displays. Whether yes or no, any input is appreciated.

 

Best to all, Justin


moderated Re: Quicken accessibility

 

I'd suggest anyone using Quicken and having inaccessibility issues to consider Money Talks by APH. It can import Quicken files and is very accessible. I purchased it via telephone from APH over a year ago for under $40 and think it's great.

Alan Lemly  

with Outlook for iOS


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 5:32:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Quicken accessibility
 

Hi Ken: I don’t know about Quickbooks, but Quicken is still quite inaccessible. I can still use Magic and that is the only thing that keeps me going in Quicken.

 

Stan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Quicken accessibility

 

I am a long time user of Quicken.

I always thought that Quicken accessibility was not good.

 

I am aware that Quicken and QuickBooks are now managed by different companies.

 

Is Quicken accessibility as good as what has been written recently in this discussion list as QuickBooks?

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

 

That should open the program as maximized, but a friend had the same problem and he only had to press, Windows key + up arrow, to maximize and it took care of the problem.  I guess sometimes the screen won't maximize on its own like it's supposed to.  At least that was the problem in his case, maybe it won't work for you but it's only something to try.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Onwardbob

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

 

Mike I have Outlook maxed in propertys. Is that what you mean?

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Bob,
 
Make sure the screen is maximized.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Onwardbob <mailto:onwardbob@...
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Not for me using Outlook 2010

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

I just installed the beta and in Outlook 2016 from Microsoft 365 it reads
who it is from, subject, etc., just like always.

Did you migrate your settings from the release version?

 


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

When using 2021 the up and down arrows are moving up and down through my
E-mail but not reading as it does. Insert up arrow reads.???

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:29 AM
To: JList
Subject: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New

Hi All,
 
Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit systems, what's new
in this release and a link to the FSCast that has demonstrations.
 
 
Download Link 32 & 64 Bit:
 
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. FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features
in the upcoming 2021 release.
 
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. New Features in 2021
 
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 PictureSmart
Improvements
 
Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to choose a
photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then
displayed in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture Smart layer. You can
then press A to describe a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed
scanner, F to describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to
describe the current control, or B to describe an image on the Windows
Clipboard.
 
JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering several
improvements including:
 
list of 3 items
. Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image that is part of a
web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed
by C now describes the photo.
. Submitting images to multiple services to help improve accuracy: By
default, images are submitted to Microsoft for analyzing. However, the
Results Viewer now contains a More Results link which submits the image
again to additional services for analyzing and displays an updated
description. You can also add SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use
multiple services. For example,
INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B.
. Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are using JAWS or Fusion
in a language other than English and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS
and Fusion will use machine translation to display descriptions in the
particular language. You can also manually choose from 38 languages for
displaying results, configurable using the new Picture Smart Language option
in Settings Center.
list end
 
Please note that these changes, especially the machine translation for other
languages, is still experimental, so things may not always work as expected.
Results will improve as we continue refining this functionality.
 
For more information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by
QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help.
 
OCR Text Directly into a Word Document
 
The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature has been enhanced
to support sending recognized text directly to Word. Convenient OCR enables
you to access images containing text that is part of the image and displays
this information in the Results Viewer. This includes onscreen images such
as the graphical setup screen for an application, an inaccessible PDF opened
in Adobe Reader, a currently selected image file in Windows Explorer, or a
document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner.
 
If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can now:
 
list of 2 items
. Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R to perform OCR on a
selected image file in File Explorer or the Desktop and place the recognized
text directly into a Word document. You can also press the APPLICATIONS key
and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS or Fusion from the context menu.
. Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of the Results
Viewer once the OCR process is complete.
list end
 
For more information about using Convenient OCR, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O
followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS
help.
 
New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Commands
and Features
 
The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS, ZoomText, and
Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input. Supported languages include
English, Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out with
various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech. This means that the
same action can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a
single predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS Settings
Center, you could say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike
keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands
are an easier way to interact with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using
voice input to control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain
conditions which prevent them from using a keyboard effectively.
 
The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you can
talk to it using an external microphone or headset. To tell the Voice
Assistant to begin listening for a specific command, there are three
options:
 
list of 2 items
. Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for
ZoomText and Fusion).
. Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to begin listening for
a voice command, similar to using an Alexa or Google Home device. The wake
word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion. Speak this
word followed by a specific JAWS or ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list
links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level."
list end
 
Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth
microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the
voice command.
 
list of 1 items
. From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the Utilities menu, expand
the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk to JAWS. From the ZoomText
or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText.
list end
 
When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a short audio
indicator plays, and a visual indicator is displayed. After hearing a voice
command, a different audio indicator plays until the command is processed.
After processing, the visual indicator is removed, a different, short, audio
indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is performed.
 
If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message, "Sorry, I didn't
hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice Assistant does not understand or if
the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I didn't catch
that" is spoken.
 
Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed over the Internet
using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there will be a slight delay
depending on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different
commands. This is a new technology being added to our software products and
will continue to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions
and feedback.
 
To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as whether or
not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake word or to turn off the sounds, do
one of the following:
 
list of 2 items
. For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant
submenu, and then select Settings.
. For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press DOWN ARROW on the
Voice Assistant drop down button, and select Settings.
list end
 
To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for specific
actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You can also select Getting
Started from the Voice Assistant menu.
 
Here are a few commands you can try to help you get started.
 
For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before
speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
. Help
. Talk faster
. Talk slower
. Change settings
. Command search
. What time is it
. OCR PDF
. List links
. List headings
. List spelling errors
list end
 
For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press CAPS
LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
 
list of 10 items
. Increase zoom level
. Zoom out
. Set zoom level to 5
. Where is my focus
. What time is it
. Activate speech
. Talk faster
. Open Reader app view
. Launch finder
. Change the color enhancement scheme
list end
 
Improved Microsoft Teams Support
list of 6 items
. If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list which opens the
inaccessible document viewer, you can now press ESC to return to the files
list. You are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open the
document in the desktop application, which is the suggested method.
. You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to the first five tab
pages.
. Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates the back button from
anywhere in Teams.
. You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress.
. You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree view, if visible.
Note that it is usually only visible if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the
teams and channels list. The screen should also be maximized to ensure this
control is visible.
. Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting.
list end
 
Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate windows with
fewer controls. To do this, press CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select
the check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New meetings and
calls will open in separate windows. Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS
specific keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split mode,
Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review by pressing
CTRL+PERIOD.
 
New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level
 
You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle through the four
punctuation levels which controls how much punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak
while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and All. Similar
to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the
punctuation level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or
Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level, use the JAWS
Startup Wizard or Settings Center.
 
Announce Most Recent Windows Notification
 
You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by N to
have JAWS repeat the last notification that was spoken. Notifications
include an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new email
in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille display, you can also press
RIGHT
SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows
SHIFT+notifications,
use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A.
 
FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information
 
The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects information about your
computer and sends a report to our Technical Support and Software
Development teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be experiencing
while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will typically be asked to run
this utility during a technical support session if it is determined that
additional details about your system are needed. Some information that is
collected
includes:
 
list of 9 items
. System information such as processor, RAM, operating system, architecture,
and more . Event logs . Version of Adobe Reader (if installed) . Versions of
all installed web browsers . Information on installed Microsoft Office
applications . Crash dumps . Installation logs . Currently running system
processes . User settings list end
 
The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS, or the
Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you through collecting and
submitting a report.
 
Announce Accessible Notification Events
 
By default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows generated accessible
event notifications in both speech and braille. These types of notifications
are found in a variety of places including business bars in Microsoft
Office. If you do not want to hear these announcements, open Settings Center
and clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check box.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!















moderated Re: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

When you get this screen you should have the option to “Continue” or “get apps from Microsoft store only”.  If you click continue JAWS should then begin to install.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 10:26 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Install the new JAWS Beta

 

Dear Listers:

 

I understand that  the new JAWS 2021 Beta version has just come out.  I am trying to install it.  I am using a Desktop computer, Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.  I have downloaded and saved the application for the new Beta version but when I go to the folder where it is and hit the Enter key after locating it, instead of giving me the option to install it I am getting a dialog that just says “get app from store.”  I know apps are only used with phones and I don’t know how to handle apps as I have only a cell phone, not an i-phone, so I don’t know how to rectify this problem and download the Beta version to my Desktop.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

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