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moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Shan Noyes
 

Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market.  But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.  Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.

 

Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM
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Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett


On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.

 

On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 

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moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Richard Turner
 

Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com

 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.



On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett


On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.



On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Dan Longmore
 

It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> wrote:

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett

On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Marty Hutchings
 

Knowing how Apple is about their stuff, could it be that they won’t work with FS to create JAWS scripts for iCloud or iTunes?  These are 2 pretty big main stream programs, and it is a little surprising at the lack of outcry for better accessibility.  I can get iTunes to work, although it is clunky, but iCloud is useless to me.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Using iCloud.com
 
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett

On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Randy Barnett
 

Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…

Randy Barnett

On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Moving Between Sections in a Word Document

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

When quick keys is enabled in JAWS you can press S to move to the next section and shift-s to move to the previous section.

Pressing insert-z toggles Quick Keys on and off.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 9/7/2020 11:04 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Two thoughts.

First, the symbol marking a new section is ^k. Type these two characters into an MS Word search ()control-f), not a JAWS search (JAWS key-control-f) and press enter. You should be taken to the beginning of a new section. For the record, I haven't tried it because I don't divide documents this way.

Second, there may be another symbol to use when you go into quick navigation mode with JAWS key-z. In this mode, pressing h will take you to the next heading, etc. I haven't looked into whether there's such a symbol for sections.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 8:45 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Moving Between Se`ctions in a Word Document

Hi, Everyone.
Using JFW2018 and Word2016 with Win10. I have a large document with multiple sections that I need to look through. When I do an Ins+F1 JFW tells me what section I'm on and describes its margins; it also tells me how many sections my document has. But it seems there is no keystroke to move between sections. Is that right?

Thanks,
Dani




moderated Re: I can't figure out how to set up the brave browser. help please.

Chris Hill
 

It sounds like you somehow got to the ad-ons page.  You should be able to hit ctrl-l and type in whatever url you want to go to.  The only real setup is whether you want to set as default and turn on rewards.  That is what first came up when i installed it, and I just hit close.  If you want to import bookmarks or do any of that stuff, it should be in the menus.



On 9/9/2020 18:22, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all, I know you aren't supposed to cross post, but I am frustrated, and can't figure out what to do. first of all, I am running jaws 2020 on a windows ten computer. I have downloaded and installed the brave browser. Now that I have done that, I can't figure out how to set it up,. Frown. When I go to the brave browser icon on my desk top, and hit enter I HEAR jaws say the following.https://support.google.com/chrome_webstore/#topic=6243095obviously I should hear something differentgt.so how to set up the brave browser? And now that I have done it, is it really worth it, or is chrome just the same as brave? I would appreciate any help on setting up the brave browser. An thanks for your help. Jim


moderated Describing the contents of a region?

Mark
 

Is there a command or script that would make JAWS describe the contents of a region?  For example, it might say that the main region has 3 headings, 4 lists, 10 links, and so on. It could save time from figuring it out more manually.


moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Jim Weiss
 

Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.


On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:



Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated I can't figure out how to set up the brave browser. help please.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, I know you aren't supposed to cross post, but I am frustrated, and can't figure out what to do. first of all, I am running jaws 2020 on a windows ten computer. I have downloaded and installed the brave browser. Now that I have done that, I can't figure out how to set it up,. Frown. When I go to the brave browser icon on my desk top, and hit enter I HEAR jaws say the following.https://support.google.com/chrome_webstore/#topic=6243095obviously I should hear something differentgt.so how to set up the brave browser? And now that I have done it, is it really worth it, or is chrome just the same as brave? I would appreciate any help on setting up the brave browser. An thanks for your help. Jim


moderated Re: Question About accessible web pages

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Sorry, quick settings for JAWS. insert-V.


On Sep 8, 2020, at 19:54, clarence carter via groups.io <clcarter@...> wrote:

Thanks Jonathin, I am using Chrome. Where are the click settings? Or is it a function of JAWS?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question About accessible web pages

 

That is truely horrible. Can I share with the accessibility community? To try and resolve, try changing the click behaviour for that web page. Look for the word simulate in quick settings and find the setting for that site (the results should show up twice, once for general and once for specific site) and then toggle the setting.

Feel free to reply directly to me!

Jonathan cohn

 



On Sep 7, 2020, at 9:18 PM, clarence carter via groups.io <clcarter@...> wrote:

 

I have run into a problem with a web page. It is set up to change the page formatting when it detects a screen reader. 

 

What happens is that the screen reader will read the page as normal until you try to move to another spot on the page. Then, the page says page downloading. I have added the web page below. If anybody has a way around this I would appreciate your help.

 

 




moderated Re: Using icloud.com

Marty Hutchings
 

Yes Kevin, Me neither.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:57 PM
Subject: Using icloud.com
 

Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Using icloud.com

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Problem downloading August version of Jaws

kevin meyers
 

Thanks and I used FireFox. Never had the problem in the past.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem downloading August version of Jaws

IME, if you open Chrome's downloads with control+j if it isn't open already,
arrow down and you'll find a "keep" link or button. press space bar on it to
complete the download, or just use Firefox to avoid having to do this.

-------- Original Message --------
From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 9:41 AM
Subject: Problem downloading August version of Jaws Hello, I'm using
windows10 and Google chrome. I have tried numerous times to download the
most recent version of Jaws and never completes. I go to the site to
download it. The site never gives me an error message.
I then press alt F4 and get a new screen stating the download is in
progress. I arrow through the screen and there is a message saying "This
file cannot be downloaded securely." I have the option to discard or keep.
Has anyone have this problem?

Thanks,

Kevin


moderated Re: eBook access with JAWS

Ed Culpepper
 

Thorium.com offers download of an e-book reader that I have found to be highly accessible with Jaws 2020 – after some initially frustrating orientation. Learning how and when to open the “Navigation” menu is trial and error at first. I learned about the Thorium reader from this list.

Reading a book with Kindle (or Thorium) try clicking on the chapter number/title when you are in the table of contents in order to go to the chapter text. I have found that I sometimes have to go to the table of contents, click a chapter I want to read, read the chapter, return to the table of contents, and click another chapter in order to keep reading.

 

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: Problem downloading August version of Jaws

Mario
 

IME, if you open Chrome's downloads with control+j if it isn't open already, arrow down and you'll find a "keep" link or button. press space bar on it to complete the download, or just use Firefox to avoid having to do this.

-------- Original Message --------
From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 9:41 AM
Subject: Problem downloading August version of Jaws
Hello, I’m using windows10 and Google chrome. I have tried numerous
times to download the most recent version of Jaws and never completes. I
go to the site to download it. The site never gives me an error message.
I then press alt F4 and get a new screen stating the download is in
progress. I arrow through the screen and there is a message saying “This
file cannot be downloaded securely.” I have the option to discard or
keep. Has anyone have this problem?

Thanks,

Kevin


moderated Re: FS Question And Answer Session

Afik Souffir
 

 

It should be out today or tomorrow

I'll keep you all posted.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 4:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: FS Question And Answer Session

 

No and no. Zoom is used and the public beta is not out out yet. Probably till later on in the month.

On 9/9/2020 7:10 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io wrote:

Hi friends,

 

Just wondering, the recent FS question and answer session where the JAWS 2021 beta was mentioned, is that sesssion run using Microsoft Teams or Zoom?

 

Secondly, is the beta out yet?

 



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moderated Re: FS Question And Answer Session

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

No and no. Zoom is used and the public beta is not out out yet. Probably till later on in the month.

On 9/9/2020 7:10 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io wrote:

Hi friends,

 

Just wondering, the recent FS question and answer session where the JAWS 2021 beta was mentioned, is that sesssion run using Microsoft Teams or Zoom?

 

Secondly, is the beta out yet?

 



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moderated Problem downloading August version of Jaws

kevin meyers
 

 

Hello, I’m using windows10 and Google chrome. I have tried numerous times to download the most recent version of Jaws and never completes. I go to the site to download it. The site never gives me an error message. I then press alt F4 and get a new screen stating the download is in progress. I arrow through the screen and there is a message saying “This file cannot be downloaded securely.” I have the option to discard or keep. Has anyone have this problem?

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated FS Question And Answer Session

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) <steven.hicks@...>
 

Hi friends,

 

Just wondering, the recent FS question and answer session where the JAWS 2021 beta was mentioned, is that sesssion run using Microsoft Teams or Zoom?

 

Secondly, is the beta out yet?

 



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