Date   

moderated My Account

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

My account is no longer bouncing.

Thanks,

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Edge Question

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

That's the way I founnd it to be.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge Question

 

There may be a button but it happened so fast it’s more like a banner it is just telling me I have downloaded a file and how I can get to the download. That’s been my experience with the alert I’m sure there are others. take care, Dan



On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...> wrote:



Sometimes Jaws says alert, but I don';'t know how to get to the message or buttton.

This happens when I am using Edge Chromium.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Jaws2020 facebook live

Vaughn Brown
 

Thank you very much. These steps were helpful. I am not fully familiar
with the new key commands with JFW 2020 even though I am using it.
LOL.

On 8/26/20, CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@blind.training> wrote:
The controls you want to access are buttons. Navigate buttons in a couple
ways:



JAWS for Windows Navigation Quick Keys B and SHIFT-B

Display a list of buttons CTRL-JAWS KEY-B, select a button, and press ENTER



Here are the steps you need:



1. Open the Facebook Home Page www.facebook.com
<http://www.facebook.com>
2. Locate the "What's on your mind" button and press SPACEBAR to
activate it



The new post page opens.



1. Navigate to the "More" button and press SPACEBAR to activate it
2. This opens a small dialog with more buttons
3. Navigate to the "Live Video" button and activate it with SPACEBAR



That opens the Live producer. This is where you can create a live video.



CathyAnne





CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

<mailto:cathy@blind.training> cathy@blind.training

<http://www.blind.training/> www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 facebook live



I guess nobody have any answer or suggestion for me.

Addison



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 12:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Jaws2020 facebook live



Hello All

I have jaws 2020 and laptop computer window10 !! I want to know if anyone
of you ever try to do facebook live video with yourself on
www.facebook.com <http://www.facebook.com> on google chrome or internet
explorer website ? If so how do you do it step by step ? Because my friend
was helping me and I call microsoft disability support on yesterday so my
friend can tell support what she see on website to tell them to send me
instruction on google chrome website !! Here what the lady support told
me
below and I try to press insert f7 it not saying what the lady support
say
instruction so I have to keep tabbing

How to do facebook live:

1. Log in to you facebook account.
2. On the Home page, keep on pressing tab until you heard more post
option then press enter.
3. Keep on pressing tab until you hear live video then press enter.

Keep pressing tab until you heared go live then enter

I will appreciate if any answer from anyone and thank you

Addison







moderated Re: Edge Question

Dan Longmore
 

There may be a button but it happened so fast it’s more like a banner it is just telling me I have downloaded a file and how I can get to the download. That’s been my experience with the alert I’m sure there are others. take care, Dan


On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...> wrote:



Sometimes Jaws says alert, but I don';'t know how to get to the message or buttton.

This happens when I am using Edge Chromium.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Jaws2020 facebook live

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

The controls you want to access are buttons. Navigate buttons in a couple ways:

 

JAWS for Windows Navigation Quick Keys B and SHIFT-B

Display a list of buttons CTRL-JAWS KEY-B, select a button, and press ENTER

 

Here are the steps you need:

 

  1. Open the Facebook Home Page www.facebook.com
  2. Locate the “What’s on your mind” button and press SPACEBAR to activate it

 

The new post page opens.

 

  1. Navigate to the “More” button and press SPACEBAR to activate it
  2. This opens a small dialog with more buttons
  3. Navigate to the “Live Video” button and activate it with SPACEBAR

 

That opens the Live producer. This is where you can create a live video.

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 955-6611

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2020 facebook live

 

I guess nobody have any answer or suggestion for me.

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 12:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 facebook live

 

Hello All

I have jaws 2020 and laptop computer window10 !!  I want to know if anyone of you ever try to do facebook live video  with yourself  on www.facebook.com  on google chrome  or internet explorer  website ? If so how do you do it step by step ? Because my friend was helping me and I call microsoft disability support on yesterday so my friend can tell support what she see on website to tell them to send me instruction  on google chrome  website !! Here what the lady support told me below  and I try to press insert f7  it not saying what the lady support say instruction  so I have to keep tabbing 

How to do facebook live:

  1. Log in to you facebook account.
  2. On  the Home page, keep on pressing  tab until you heard more post option then press enter.
  3. Keep on pressing  tab until you hear live video then press enter.

Keep pressing  tab until you heared go live then enter

I will appreciate if any answer from anyone  and thank you

Addison


moderated Re: Jaws2020 facebook live

Vaughn Brown
 

Hi Addison,

You may have better luck with using spacebar instead of enter. These
steps looks correct. What is your issue? Explain and I will try
helping.

Google Chrome seems to work well for this.

Vaughn

On 8/26/20, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess nobody have any answer or suggestion for me.

Addison



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 12:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 facebook live



Hello All

I have jaws 2020 and laptop computer window10 !! I want to know if anyone
of you ever try to do facebook live video with yourself on
www.facebook.com on google chrome or internet explorer website ? If so
how do you do it step by step ? Because my friend was helping me and I call
microsoft disability support on yesterday so my friend can tell support
what
she see on website to tell them to send me instruction on google chrome
website !! Here what the lady support told me below and I try to press
insert f7 it not saying what the lady support say instruction so I have
to
keep tabbing

How to do facebook live:

1. Log in to you facebook account.

2. On the Home page, keep on pressing tab until you heard more post
option then press enter.

3. Keep on pressing tab until you hear live video then press enter.

Keep pressing tab until you heared go live then enter

I will appreciate if any answer from anyone and thank you

Addison







moderated Re: Jaws2020 facebook live

O.Addison Gethers
 

I guess nobody have any answer or suggestion for me.

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 12:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws2020 facebook live

 

Hello All

I have jaws 2020 and laptop computer window10 !!  I want to know if anyone of you ever try to do facebook live video  with yourself  on www.facebook.com  on google chrome  or internet explorer  website ? If so how do you do it step by step ? Because my friend was helping me and I call microsoft disability support on yesterday so my friend can tell support what she see on website to tell them to send me instruction  on google chrome  website !! Here what the lady support told me below  and I try to press insert f7  it not saying what the lady support say instruction  so I have to keep tabbing 

How to do facebook live:

1.       Log in to you facebook account.

2.       On  the Home page, keep on pressing  tab until you heard more post option then press enter.

3.       Keep on pressing  tab until you hear live video then press enter.

Keep pressing  tab until you heared go live then enter

I will appreciate if any answer from anyone  and thank you

Addison


moderated Edge Question

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Sometimes Jaws says alert, but I don';'t know how to get to the message or buttton.

This happens when I am using Edge Chromium.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Copy From Web page

Richard Turner
 

Its my day for brain-farts.

Thanks for catching that.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Hi Richard,

 

Slight typo, to add a temp placemarker the keystroke is, Control, Windows key + K.

Selecting Between the Temporary PlaceMarker and the Cursor Position

 

To select text between a temporary PlaceMarker and your current position in a Web page, HTML document, or Word document, do the following:

1. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+k to set a temporary PlaceMarker.


2. Navigate to another location on the Web page or document, then press, INSERT + SPACEBAR, then press the letter, M. All text between the temporary PlaceMarker and your current
cursor position is selected and ready to be copied to the Clipboard.

 

3. Press, Control + C, to copy and now paste wherever you like.



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:20 PM

Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

I am probably late to this thread, but are you using the temporary marker hot key control+windows+m? then insert+space followed by m, then control+c?

 

I have never had it not copy.

I have had it copy more than I wanted.

If it isn’t going to work, I get a message that it couldn’t place the temporary marker.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Yes, same issue here and not on all occasions.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Copy From Web page

 

I have found some occassions where JAWS will not allow me to copy portions of a web page.

 

hat happens is I select what I want to copy, or I think that I do, then I attempt to copy it.

 

Even though I selected what I want to copy, it will not copy it. This does not happen all of the time but it is enough to be annoying.


moderated Re: Copy From Web page

Mike B.
 

Hi Richard,
 
Slight typo, to add a temp placemarker the keystroke is, Control, Windows key + K.
Selecting Between the Temporary PlaceMarker and the Cursor Position
 
To select text between a temporary PlaceMarker and your current position in a Web page, HTML document, or Word document, do the following:
1. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+k to set a temporary PlaceMarker.

2. Navigate to another location on the Web page or document, then press, INSERT + SPACEBAR, then press the letter, M. All text between the temporary PlaceMarker and your current
cursor position is selected and ready to be copied to the Clipboard.
 
3. Press, Control + C, to copy and now paste wherever you like.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

I am probably late to this thread, but are you using the temporary marker hot key control+windows+m? then insert+space followed by m, then control+c?

 

I have never had it not copy.

I have had it copy more than I wanted.

If it isn’t going to work, I get a message that it couldn’t place the temporary marker.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Yes, same issue here and not on all occasions.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Copy From Web page

 

I have found some occassions where JAWS will not allow me to copy portions of a web page.

 

hat happens is I select what I want to copy, or I think that I do, then I attempt to copy it.

 

Even though I selected what I want to copy, it will not copy it. This does not happen all of the time but it is enough to be annoying.


moderated Re: Copy From Web page

Richard <thegothot@...>
 

Hi Richard,
Did you mean control+Windows+K?

HTH,
Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@outlook.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page


I am probably late to this thread, but are you using the temporary marker
hot key control+windows+m? then insert+space followed by m, then control+c?

I have never had it not copy.
I have had it copy more than I wanted.
If it isn't going to work, I get a message that it couldn't place the
temporary marker.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

Yes, same issue here and not on all occasions.
Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of clarence carter
via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io<mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Copy From Web page

I have found some occassions where JAWS will not allow me to copy portions
of a web page.

What happens is I select what I want to copy, or I think that I do, then I
attempt to copy it.

Even though I selected what I want to copy, it will not copy it. This does
not happen all of the time but it is enough to be annoying.


moderated Re: Copy From Web page

Richard Turner
 

I am probably late to this thread, but are you using the temporary marker hot key control+windows+m? then insert+space followed by m, then control+c?

 

I have never had it not copy.

I have had it copy more than I wanted.

If it isn’t going to work, I get a message that it couldn’t place the temporary marker.

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Yes, same issue here and not on all occasions.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Copy From Web page

 

I have found some occassions where JAWS will not allow me to copy portions of a web page.

 

What happens is I select what I want to copy, or I think that I do, then I attempt to copy it.

 

Even though I selected what I want to copy, it will not copy it. This does not happen all of the time but it is enough to be annoying.


moderated Re: Copy From Web page

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, same issue here and not on all occasions.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:35 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Copy From Web page

 

I have found some occassions where JAWS will not allow me to copy portions of a web page.

 

What happens is I select what I want to copy, or I think that I do, then I attempt to copy it.

 

Even though I selected what I want to copy, it will not copy it. This does not happen all of the time but it is enough to be annoying.


moderated Re: Using Facebook

JM Casey
 

Well..i sort of agree with you actually, but I think that's really a matter of both perspective and what exactly you want to make of facebook. If you really want the full facebook experience, the mobile site just won't do. But I expect it's good enough for most of us.

I haven't received comment notifications by email in a long time so I can't really check on that..I used to be able to click on a link from the e-mail and go straight to the comment. It was nice but I was getting too many e-mails from facebook so turned the feature off.
As for a friends list, which I saw was mentioned:
Go to your "wall" or "profile" page -- not the news feed. That means, click on the link that is your username. From there, click "friends". You will see a list that shows your recent message contacts first. It will scrolll onwards when you hit "see more" -- which you'll have to do again and again if you have a lot of friends, or just use the search field to look for a specific person.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: August 25, 2020 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Facebook

I definately would use the mobile version. I use it heavily every day and it works great. The full facebook site is a nightmare.


On 8/25/20, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
I read the comments here and…

While I too use m.facebook.com because it’s not much of an obnoxious
setup, it is a somewhat buggy and very stripped down way of accessing facebook.
There are just some things that you either can’t do or that are very
inconvenient.

If you have a list of stuff, for instance, like your friends, you’ll
have to keep hitting ‘see more” over and over again just to see a few
more entries appear. It is very annoying if say you have hundreds of
friends and you want to go through them all to perhaps take out the
trash, if you know what I mean.



Anyway, I can’t tell from these messages what it is exactly you want to do?
What things are giving you the most issues/frustrating you the most,
that yout hink you should be able to do or have seen others do? Maybe
that’s a good starting point.



As for docs, I’m not sure there really are any except the help
available from facebook itself. Look for “help centre”; it should be
near the bottom of just about every m.facebook.com page. Alt-shift-0
is supposed to be a quick way of getting there and indeed it works for
me, but it might not for you depending on your setup – I personally
like these kind of web-page specific hotkeys sometimes but not
everyone does and obviously mobile browsers and such don’t support
them, so some developers consider them a “bad accessibility crutch”.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: August 24, 2020 8:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Facebook



I already do.

Any further advice?

Many thanks.

Ron



From: Loy

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 20:42

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Using Facebook



try using the mobile version at M.facebook.com, it works somewhat
better with JAWS

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Kolesar

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: Using Facebook



I can agree with this.

I too have a huge time getting around out on face book via both JAWS
and or NVDA.

Even though my brother who’s also a jaws user, has a better time out
on face book than I do.

I’ve been thinking of pulling my face book account down, since I don’t
use it all that much.

But, if I can get some advice from a fellow JAWS user to make it more
accessible, than I’ll probably use it more often.

Just my two cents on this topic.

Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG



From: Kevin meyers

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 10:16

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Using Facebook



Hello,



I’m using windows 10 and Jaws 2020 most recent versions. I have been
looking for Facebook documentation. Does anyone know of any thing will
help? I’m always having problems finding the list of my friends. Or
viewing a comment someone makes which I get through an email.



Thanks,



Kevin



In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards
and or Best Whishes,From Ron Kolesar Volunteer Certified Licensed
Emergency Communications Station And Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham
Radio Station With the Call Sign of KR3DOG







moderated Re: Using Facebook

Jed Barton
 

I definately would use the mobile version. I use it heavily every day
and it works great. The full facebook site is a nightmare.

On 8/25/20, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
I read the comments here and…

While I too use m.facebook.com because it’s not much of an obnoxious setup,
it is a somewhat buggy and very stripped down way of accessing facebook.
There are just some things that you either can’t do or that are very
inconvenient.

If you have a list of stuff, for instance, like your friends, you’ll have to
keep hitting ‘see more” over and over again just to see a few more entries
appear. It is very annoying if say you have hundreds of friends and you want
to go through them all to perhaps take out the trash, if you know what I
mean.



Anyway, I can’t tell from these messages what it is exactly you want to do?
What things are giving you the most issues/frustrating you the most, that
yout hink you should be able to do or have seen others do? Maybe that’s a
good starting point.



As for docs, I’m not sure there really are any except the help available
from facebook itself. Look for “help centre”; it should be near the bottom
of just about every m.facebook.com page. Alt-shift-0 is supposed to be a
quick way of getting there and indeed it works for me, but it might not for
you depending on your setup – I personally like these kind of web-page
specific hotkeys sometimes but not everyone does and obviously mobile
browsers and such don’t support them, so some developers consider them a
“bad accessibility crutch”.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: August 24, 2020 8:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Facebook



I already do.

Any further advice?

Many thanks.

Ron



From: Loy

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 20:42

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Using Facebook



try using the mobile version at M.facebook.com, it works somewhat better
with JAWS

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Kolesar

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: Using Facebook



I can agree with this.

I too have a huge time getting around out on face book via both JAWS and or
NVDA.

Even though my brother who’s also a jaws user, has a better time out on face
book than I do.

I’ve been thinking of pulling my face book account down, since I don’t use
it all that much.

But, if I can get some advice from a fellow JAWS user to make it more
accessible, than I’ll probably use it more often.

Just my two cents on this topic.

Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG



From: Kevin meyers

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 10:16

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Using Facebook



Hello,



I’m using windows 10 and Jaws 2020 most recent versions. I have been looking
for Facebook documentation. Does anyone know of any thing will help? I’m
always having problems finding the list of my friends. Or viewing a comment
someone makes which I get through an email.



Thanks,



Kevin



In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or
Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG







moderated Re: Using Facebook

JM Casey
 

I read the comments here and…

While I too use m.facebook.com because it’s not much of an obnoxious setup, it is a somewhat buggy and very stripped down way of accessing facebook. There are just some things that you either can’t do or that are very inconvenient.

If you have a list of stuff, for instance, like your friends, you’ll have to keep hitting ‘see more” over and over again just to see a few more entries appear. It is very annoying if say you have hundreds of friends and you want to go through them all to perhaps take out the trash, if you know what I mean.

 

Anyway, I can’t tell from these messages what it is exactly you want to do? What things are giving you the most issues/frustrating you the most, that yout hink you should be able to do or have seen others do? Maybe that’s a good starting point.

 

As for docs, I’m not sure there really are any except the help available from facebook itself.  Look for “help centre”; it should be near the bottom of just about every m.facebook.com page. Alt-shift-0 is supposed to be a quick way of getting there and indeed it works for me, but it might not for you depending on your setup – I personally like these kind of web-page specific hotkeys sometimes but not everyone does and obviously mobile browsers and such don’t support them, so some developers consider them a “bad accessibility crutch”.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
Sent: August 24, 2020 8:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Facebook

 

I already do.

Any further advice?

Many thanks.

Ron

 

From: Loy

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 20:42

Subject: Re: Using Facebook

 

try using the mobile version at M.facebook.com, it works somewhat better with JAWS

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: Using Facebook

 

I can agree with this.

I too have a huge time getting around out on face book via both JAWS and or NVDA.

Even though my brother who’s also a jaws user, has a better time out on face book than I do.

I’ve been thinking of pulling my face book account down, since I don’t use it all that much.

But, if I can get some advice from a fellow JAWS user to make it more accessible, than I’ll probably use it more often.

Just my two cents on this topic.

Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG

 

From: Kevin meyers

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 10:16

Subject: Using Facebook

 

Hello,

 

I’m using windows 10 and Jaws 2020 most recent versions. I have been looking for Facebook documentation. Does anyone know of any thing will help? I’m always having problems finding the list of my friends. Or viewing a comment someone makes  which I get through an email.

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG


moderated Re: Copy From Web page

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

It works for me in Edge Cgromium.

On 8/24/2020 3:13 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:

No, not in Microsoft Edge either.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

I just tried this and couldn't find it either...

On 8/24/2020 8:41 AM, Tom Behler wrote:

Mike and all:

 

I was able to follow your instructions for specifying how to copy content from web pages in Firefox, but could not find the virtual cursor options in the Jaws quick settings to make the change in Google Chrome.

 

Here are the steps I used, as copied from yesterday’s e-mails:

 

1. Open your web browser of choice.

 

2. Press, Insert + V, to open Jaws Quick Settings.

 

3. Press the down arrow key to find the option for select and copy. This is found under the virtual cursor options.

 

4. When you find the select and copy option, you can press the tab key to move to the help window. Use the say all command to read the help
information for the select and copy option.

 

5. Use, Shift + Tab, to move back to the tree view. Press the space bar to toggle the Select and Copy options.  Your options are, From virtual cursor,
and, Full content using on screen highlight.  Repeated pressing of the spacebar enables you to alternate between the two choices. When you hear the one you want, stop pressing the spacebar and go to the next step.

 

6. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

Can anyone tell me why the virtual cursor options don’t seem to be available in Google Chrome?

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Dell Windows 10 laptop here.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Hi Sharon,

 

When making this settings change in a browser and using the Jaws quick settings feature, this should only effect the way text is copied while on the internet using this particular browser.  Each browser needs to be set-up individually using the same steps.

 

Making this settings change in a browser shouldn't change the way text is copied from a program like Word, but should only effect the way text is pasted into a program like Word since only the text is copied and then pasted.

 

Whenever you use the Jaws quick settings feature, Insert + V, while in any application this settings change is application specific to only this application and should not effect any others.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

It’s interesting.

I went into google and changed to virtual view.

Now all of a sudden, all my issues with copying, cutting, and deleting text in a web browser and in Word went away.

This setting seems to work on all programs; is this correct?

I’m using Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 latest update.

 

Using Jaws 2018, copy, cut, and delete seemed to work, without my changing any setting.

But in 2020 the other setting does not work at all, but virtual viewer does.

This seems to have solved many issues with cutting, copying and deleting text.

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Mike is saying that repeated pressing of the spacebar enables you to alternate between the two choices. When you hear the one you want, stop pressing the spacebar and go to the next step.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Mike:

 

These instructions are quite useful, and I’ll save them for future reference.

 

However, I do have one question:

 

Here is what you said in step 5:

 

5. “Use, Shift + Tab, to move back to the tree view. Press the space bar to toggle the Select and Copy options.  Your options are, From virtual cursor,
and, Full content using on screen highlight.
Stop on the, From virtual cursor, option.”

 

Let’s say I choose “full content using on screen highlight”.

 

I’m not sure what you mean by your next statement that says:  “stop on the virtual cursor option”.

 

Can you clarify?

 

Thank you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 9:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Hi Clarence and Abraham,

 

Here's a setting that you might want to switch to in Jaws quick settings if you haven't already.

 

Note, just to clarify:  If you choose the, From Virtual Cursor option, this will copy the text without formatting.
If you choose the, Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight  option, this copies the text with formatting. 
 
 
You can change this option in Jaws Quick Settings, Insert + V, while in your browser.

 

To make the change, do the following:
1. Open your web browser of choice.
2. Press, Insert + V, to open Jaws Quick Settings.
3. Press the down arrow key to find the option for select and copy. This is found under the virtual cursor options.

 

4. When you find the select and copy option, you can press the tab key to move to the help window. Use the say all command to read the help
information for the select and copy option.
5. Use, Shift + Tab, to move back to the tree view. Press the space bar to toggle the Select and Copy options.  Your options are, From virtual cursor,
and, Full content using on screen highlight.
Stop on the, From virtual cursor, option.
 
6. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 5:50 PM

Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

I think I will give them a call. If they have a fix, maybe they might share it.

 

Thanks Again.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

I run into the same problem with both chrome and Firefox.

When I contact freedom scientific support and they  tandem into my computer, it starts working all of a sudden.

 

 

Thanks,abraham 

 

On Aug 23, 2020, at 8:35 PM, clarence carter via groups.io <clcarter@...> wrote:



I have found some occassions where JAWS will not allow me to copy portions of a web page.

 

What happens is I select what I want to copy, or I think that I do, then I attempt to copy it.

 

Even though I selected what I want to copy, it will not copy it. This does not happen all of the time but it is enough to be annoying.


moderated Re: Using Facebook

Ron Kolesar
 

I already do.
Any further advice?
Many thanks.
Ron
 

From: Loy
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 20:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Facebook
 
try using the mobile version at M.facebook.com, it works somewhat better with JAWS
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Kolesar
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Using Facebook
 
I can agree with this.
I too have a huge time getting around out on face book via both JAWS and or NVDA.
Even though my brother who’s also a jaws user, has a better time out on face book than I do.
I’ve been thinking of pulling my face book account down, since I don’t use it all that much.
But, if I can get some advice from a fellow JAWS user to make it more accessible, than I’ll probably use it more often.
Just my two cents on this topic.
Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
 
From: Kevin meyers
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 10:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Facebook
 

Hello,

 

I’m using windows 10 and Jaws 2020 most recent versions. I have been looking for Facebook documentation. Does anyone know of any thing will help? I’m always having problems finding the list of my friends. Or viewing a comment someone makes  which I get through an email.

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
Volunteer Certified Licensed Emergency Communications Station
And
Volunteer Certified Licensed Ham Radio Station
With the Call Sign of KR3DOG


moderated Re: JAWS stops talking

Ray Lough
 

My system is a dell Inspiron 3400 high performance desktop with an I5 processor

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jon Nixey
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 3:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS stops talking

 

I was having this problem with a Windows 10 laptop that was only just better than the minimum specifications required to run Jaws 2020.

 

I decided to splash out on a laptop with an intel I-7 processer and 16 GB of ram, and the difference is astonishing. I can count on one hand the number of times this has happened over the past 4 months, previously it was happening every day, several times a day.

 

Cheers, Jon

 


moderated Re: Copy From Web page

clarence carter
 

Thanks!

I think that will work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 6:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Make sure the virtual cursor is turned on, Insert + Z, is the toggle keystroke.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 3:13 PM

Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

No, not in Microsoft Edge either.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 6:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

I just tried this and couldn't find it either...

On 8/24/2020 8:41 AM, Tom Behler wrote:

Mike and all:

 

I was able to follow your instructions for specifying how to copy content from web pages in Firefox, but could not find the virtual cursor options in the Jaws quick settings to make the change in Google Chrome.

 

Here are the steps I used, as copied from yesterday’s e-mails:

 

1. Open your web browser of choice.

 

2. Press, Insert + V, to open Jaws Quick Settings.

 

3. Press the down arrow key to find the option for select and copy. This is found under the virtual cursor options.

 

4. When you find the select and copy option, you can press the tab key to move to the help window. Use the say all command to read the help
information for the select and copy option.

 

5. Use, Shift + Tab, to move back to the tree view. Press the space bar to toggle the Select and Copy options.  Your options are, From virtual cursor,
and, Full content using on screen highlight.  Repeated pressing of the spacebar enables you to alternate between the two choices. When you hear the one you want, stop pressing the spacebar and go to the next step.

 

6. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

 

Can anyone tell me why the virtual cursor options don’t seem to be available in Google Chrome?

 

I’m using the latest build of Jaws 2020 on a Dell Windows 10 laptop here.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Behler

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Hi Sharon,

 

When making this settings change in a browser and using the Jaws quick settings feature, this should only effect the way text is copied while on the internet using this particular browser.  Each browser needs to be set-up individually using the same steps.

 

Making this settings change in a browser shouldn't change the way text is copied from a program like Word, but should only effect the way text is pasted into a program like Word since only the text is copied and then pasted.

 

Whenever you use the Jaws quick settings feature, Insert + V, while in any application this settings change is application specific to only this application and should not effect any others.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Sharon

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

It’s interesting.

I went into google and changed to virtual view.

Now all of a sudden, all my issues with copying, cutting, and deleting text in a web browser and in Word went away.

This setting seems to work on all programs; is this correct?

I’m using Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 latest update.

 

Using Jaws 2018, copy, cut, and delete seemed to work, without my changing any setting.

But in 2020 the other setting does not work at all, but virtual viewer does.

This seems to have solved many issues with cutting, copying and deleting text.

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Mike is saying that repeated pressing of the spacebar enables you to alternate between the two choices. When you hear the one you want, stop pressing the spacebar and go to the next step.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Mike:

 

These instructions are quite useful, and I’ll save them for future reference.

 

However, I do have one question:

 

Here is what you said in step 5:

 

5. “Use, Shift + Tab, to move back to the tree view. Press the space bar to toggle the Select and Copy options.  Your options are, From virtual cursor,
and, Full content using on screen highlight.
Stop on the, From virtual cursor, option.”

 

Let’s say I choose “full content using on screen highlight”.

 

I’m not sure what you mean by your next statement that says:  “stop on the virtual cursor option”.

 

Can you clarify?

 

Thank you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 9:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

Hi Clarence and Abraham,

 

Here's a setting that you might want to switch to in Jaws quick settings if you haven't already.

 

Note, just to clarify:  If you choose the, From Virtual Cursor option, this will copy the text without formatting.
If you choose the, Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight  option, this copies the text with formatting. 
 
 
You can change this option in Jaws Quick Settings, Insert + V, while in your browser.

 

To make the change, do the following:
1. Open your web browser of choice.
2. Press, Insert + V, to open Jaws Quick Settings.
3. Press the down arrow key to find the option for select and copy. This is found under the virtual cursor options.

 

4. When you find the select and copy option, you can press the tab key to move to the help window. Use the say all command to read the help
information for the select and copy option.
5. Use, Shift + Tab, to move back to the tree view. Press the space bar to toggle the Select and Copy options.  Your options are, From virtual cursor,
and, Full content using on screen highlight.
Stop on the, From virtual cursor, option.
 
6. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 5:50 PM

Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

I think I will give them a call. If they have a fix, maybe they might share it.

 

Thanks Again.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Copy From Web page

 

I run into the same problem with both chrome and Firefox.

When I contact freedom scientific support and they  tandem into my computer, it starts working all of a sudden.

 

 

Thanks,abraham 

 

On Aug 23, 2020, at 8:35 PM, clarence carter via groups.io <clcarter@...> wrote:



I have found some occassions where JAWS will not allow me to copy portions of a web page.

 

What happens is I select what I want to copy, or I think that I do, then I attempt to copy it.

 

Even though I selected what I want to copy, it will not copy it. This does not happen all of the time but it is enough to be annoying.

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