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moderated Odd new behavior with selectable controls on Web pages

Steve Matzura
 

I haven't yet figured out whether this is a JAWS problem or a browser problem, but it happens in both Firefox version 79.0 and Chrome version 84.4147.105, both the latest version for each browser. If I open a combo box or radio button to select something, I can't close it and move to the next control. I've noticed this happens on Amazon and groups.io. Has anyone else noticed this, and if so, what's the workaround or fix?


Thanks in advance.


moderated Re: Zoom meeting question

Ann Byrne
 

When the 40 minutes is up, the meeting will disconnect. Just redo the original link and you're back in business.

At 01:38 PM 7/30/2020, you wrote:
Hey guys,

So here's a question. With the free zoom plan, i know they limit you
to a 40 minute meeting. Can you keep using that same link once the
meeting expires, and just start over, or do you have to create a new
meeting.
I've got some stuff that i need to have some meetings for, and was
just curious about this.

Cheers,

Jed


moderated Re: Downloading Jaws

Mike B
 

Hi Les,
 
You could check your Security settings, but no matter which setting I used to download the Jaws file I didn't get any of my downloads blocked.  When you get a blocked download I believe that if you tab you'll find a More actions option that can be opened and I believe you'll have an option that you can press enter on to download anyways if for any download that Chrome is identifying as possibly being bad.  Below are steps to check your download and other security settings.
 
Open Chrome and press, Alt + F, to open the menu and up arrow to Settings and press enter.
 
Down arrow to, Privacy and Security, press enter.
 
Tab to, Security link, press enter.
 
Tab to a group of 3 radio buttons, it's about 3 tabs after pressing enter on, Security link.  These 3 radio buttons are, 1. Enhanced, 2. Standard and 3. No protection.
As you up / down arrow on these 3 radio button Jaws will read you a description of each of them.  These are your protection settings for downloads and much more.
 
If you change a setting it takes place immediately, but personally I would close and restart Chrome to make sure.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:12 AM
Subject: Downloading Jaws

Hi All,

I wished to download the latest version of Jaws2020 this morning using Chrome. It didn’t finish the download, and I saw a file starting with the word unconfirmed in my downloads folder. Eventually, I tried the same download with Microsoft Edge and was able to complete the download as expected. So I uninstalled and re-installed Chrome. I tried the download again using Chrome and could not complete the download. Any ideas as to why this is happening?

Best Regards,

 

Les


moderated Re: android vs ios.

JM Casey
 

And in response to the response to this, which I already deleted – you don’t *have* to do either, which I think is the point (I use double tap, myself)

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: July 29, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

Any OS is more intuitive to you if that’s the one you use.  iOS is less intuitive to me, and I like the fact that with Android, you can single tap, you don’t have to double or split tap.

 

All the best


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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 27 June 2020 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

I also think iOS is just more intuitive and even after all these years when both platforms have matured, iOS is in my view more polished and easier to use.

There is a load of material about iOS and iPhones out there, www.Applevis.com is just one example, Apple has an accessibility support line as well as email address and if you call their support and need help they can even connect to your phone and see what you are doing.

There are email lists for both Android and iOS, the Viphone list is one I have been on for the last 10 years or so since I started using an iPhone.

If you really want to use a keyboard you can actually get Apple's camera connection cable and use it to connect a USB keyboard, but in my opinion a Bluetooth keyboard makes much more sense with a mobile device and there are lots of great options out there from Logitech as well as others.

As for price any high-end Android phone nowadays costs just as much as the high-end iPhones, yes, you can probably pick up a cheap Android phone for $200 or so, but then again the new iPhone SE 2 which was recently released also is not that expensive and from all I heard on the Viphone list as well as in general it's fantastic phone.

I guess it all depends on what you plan to do with the phone, for me being able to transfer information from my PC to the phone by copying and pasting is not very important, I have an Apple Music subscription so I never store mucis on the device any more, I do just about all my audio book listening on Audible and the odd book I have in MP3 I can easily transfer to Voice Dream Reader via Dropbox.

I consider to be a pretty profficient user of my iPhone, but I absolutely don't believe in being able to replace a computer with my iPhone, I don't compose long texts on my phone, if I have to type a longer email or want to have an on-going text chat on Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp or other app I do use my Bluetooth keyboard. I have a Logitech K780 which I use via its USB dongle as my primary keyboard for my laptop and if I want to use it wih my iPhone all I have to do is press FN+F2 and it switches over, when I'm done I press F1 and I'm back on my PC.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

I have both, and in terms of ease of use with regard to the gestures, it is my opinion that the iPhone is much easier to operate.

On the other hand, with Android, I can have Eloquence for the voice, and I can simply copy and paste to and from my computer to the Android phone.

With Android, you can get a USB adapter and plug in a desktop keyboard or anything USB, you can't do that with IOS.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:23 AM

Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

hi folks,

 

i know that this is not the forum for this question, but maybe one of you good people might have some ideas as to where i should go.

currently, i have an old nokia phone about 300 years of age.

i have decided to take the great leap into the unknown and start using a modern tap screen phone.

i have a samsung android phone with talkback on it, but it is proving to be somewhat of a trouble.

i would say, that it is just because i am new to it, but web sites offering training tips seem to be non existent.

also, the braille keyboard seems to be a bit of a pain. i also dont want to have to attach a keyboard to it, as this defeats the purpose of having a phone you can carry around with you.

on the other hand, i have heard, that apple's voice over is much better.

again, training seems to be the problem. i should be able to get my hands on an ifone.

any thoughts?

anyone prefer one over the other?

cheers,

pat

 


moderated Re: dictation software

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

I like the built in Speech Dictation in Windows 10.  Like the Word “Dictate” add in it is just a basic program but responds well and is pretty accurate.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Rinehart
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: dictation software

 

Hello everyone,

 

I have a client who wishes to use some dictation software with JAWS.  We have tried the new Dictate add-in with Word and JAWS.  It works reasonably well, but seems to lack some of the “bells and whistles” like literal numbers or word and correction.  But for get thoughts on a page and going back and “cleaning up, it is a good choice.

 

I get very mixed reviews on Dragon Naturally speaking and JAWS.  I read everything from it works well to they don’t play nice together and it is difficult to set up.

 

Wondering about experiences anyone may have had trying to use Dragon with JAWS.  My person is running JAWS 2020, and Office 365 on a Windows 10 computer.  If it does work what do we have to do to make it so?  Also a question of a headset mic vs tabletop.  My client doesn’t care for headsets, but if a must have, a recommendation for a reasonably priced one.

 

Thanks

 

Jim

 

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Indianapolis, IN 46205

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Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


moderated Re: Zoom meeting question

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

First, if you have a room ID as a Free Registered user, after the first 40-minutes you would have to restart the meeting and resend everyone in the group the invite. Anyone, correct me if I'm wrong.

Milton

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Zoom meeting question

Hey guys,

So here's a question. With the free zoom plan, i know they limit you to a 40 minute meeting. Can you keep using that same link once the meeting expires, and just start over, or do you have to create a new meeting.
I've got some stuff that i need to have some meetings for, and was just curious about this.

Cheers,

Jed


moderated Re: Zoom meeting question

Richard Turner
 

As far as I know, you could just start again.
It would be worth trying.



Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:38 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Zoom meeting question

Hey guys,

So here's a question. With the free zoom plan, i know they limit you to a 40 minute meeting. Can you keep using that same link once the meeting expires, and just start over, or do you have to create a new meeting.
I've got some stuff that i need to have some meetings for, and was just curious about this.

Cheers,

Jed


moderated Zoom meeting question

Jed Barton
 

Hey guys,

So here's a question. With the free zoom plan, i know they limit you
to a 40 minute meeting. Can you keep using that same link once the
meeting expires, and just start over, or do you have to create a new
meeting.
I've got some stuff that i need to have some meetings for, and was
just curious about this.

Cheers,

Jed


moderated Re: dictation software

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

The best combination, allowing for power and accuracy, is Dragon 15.3, JAWS and J-Dictate from Hartgen Consultancy. Without J-Dictate, you don’t have good access to the correction procedures and to the echoing of dictating text.

 

Dean

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Rinehart
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: dictation software

 

Hello everyone,

 

I have a client who wishes to use some dictation software with JAWS.  We have tried the new Dictate add-in with Word and JAWS.  It works reasonably well, but seems to lack some of the “bells and whistles” like literal numbers or word and correction.  But for get thoughts on a page and going back and “cleaning up, it is a good choice.

 

I get very mixed reviews on Dragon Naturally speaking and JAWS.  I read everything from it works well to they don’t play nice together and it is difficult to set up.

 

Wondering about experiences anyone may have had trying to use Dragon with JAWS.  My person is running JAWS 2020, and Office 365 on a Windows 10 computer.  If it does work what do we have to do to make it so?  Also a question of a headset mic vs tabletop.  My client doesn’t care for headsets, but if a must have, a recommendation for a reasonably priced one.

 

Thanks

 

Jim

 

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Assistive Technology Specialist

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Indianapolis, IN 46205

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--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


moderated Re: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

John Skyner
 

Hi Jim

 

I use control and the delete key, this will delete all the messages in that thread. After using this command make sure the screen has updated, cursor arrow down and up again.

 

Cheers

 

John

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls via groups.io
Sent: 26 July 2020 20:48
To: jazzpiano@...
Subject: in outlook 2019, how do you delete messages with one subject at once if you aren't interested in them?

 

Hi, all, for example, there are messages in my in box that the subject line begins, might be interest stop control panel...  how can I delete all those messages at once? I am running windows ten, jaws 2020, and outlook 2019. Thanks for your help. Jim


moderated Re: Using JAWS to Send Private Message during Zoom Meeting

Rick Miller
 

Or, couldn’t you also use the Alt+H keystroke to get to the chat function?  I’ve tried this.  When the box has opened I have tabbed to the list, but when I get to the list this way JAWS won’t read it.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to Send Private Message during Zoom Meeting

 

Hi Rick,

 

If you want to send a private chat message, you need to tab past the participant list to the chat function. Hit enter there, and then go to the list of participants in the chat function. Once you find the person you want to message, hit enter and you will be able to enter text to send a private message. Finally, when you have typed the message, just hit the enter key to send the message. Hope this is helpful.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to Send Private Message during Zoom Meeting

 

Dear Listers:

 

I have just recently become acquainted with Zoom and am still learning how to use it.  I know how to join a meeting both via a computer and via phone.  After I join a meeting, I know how to tab over to the list of participants.  I know that when I come to the list to press the Enter key and the list will appear and you can go through it with JAWS.  I know that in a Zoom meeting you can send a message either to everyone or privately to someone, and it is the second of these which I don’t know how to do.  When I have found a participant I want to send a private message to I have hit the Enter key to select that participant, but then when I either tab or Alt-Tab to the chat window there is always a message in it that says, “Find a Participant,” instead of showing it is a message from me to the participant.  I assume I must be doing something wrong, but I can’t figure out what.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated dictation software

James Rinehart
 

Hello everyone,

 

I have a client who wishes to use some dictation software with JAWS.  We have tried the new Dictate add-in with Word and JAWS.  It works reasonably well, but seems to lack some of the “bells and whistles” like literal numbers or word and correction.  But for get thoughts on a page and going back and “cleaning up, it is a good choice.

 

I get very mixed reviews on Dragon Naturally speaking and JAWS.  I read everything from it works well to they don’t play nice together and it is difficult to set up.

 

Wondering about experiences anyone may have had trying to use Dragon with JAWS.  My person is running JAWS 2020, and Office 365 on a Windows 10 computer.  If it does work what do we have to do to make it so?  Also a question of a headset mic vs tabletop.  My client doesn’t care for headsets, but if a must have, a recommendation for a reasonably priced one.

 

Thanks

 

Jim

 

James Rinehart, MA, ATP, CWDP
Assistive Technology Specialist

4740 Kingsway Drive
Indianapolis, IN 46205

P 317.466.1000 x2527 • F 317.466.2000
jrinehart@...

eastersealscrossroads.org

 

     


        

 


--
Was wondering if anyone has knowledge if Spark Instant Messenger is compatible with JAWS 2018?

Thanks

Jim Rinehart


moderated Re: Using JAWS to Send Private Message during Zoom Meeting

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi Rick,

 

If you want to send a private chat message, you need to tab past the participant list to the chat function. Hit enter there, and then go to the list of participants in the chat function. Once you find the person you want to message, hit enter and you will be able to enter text to send a private message. Finally, when you have typed the message, just hit the enter key to send the message. Hope this is helpful.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to Send Private Message during Zoom Meeting

 

Dear Listers:

 

I have just recently become acquainted with Zoom and am still learning how to use it.  I know how to join a meeting both via a computer and via phone.  After I join a meeting, I know how to tab over to the list of participants.  I know that when I come to the list to press the Enter key and the list will appear and you can go through it with JAWS.  I know that in a Zoom meeting you can send a message either to everyone or privately to someone, and it is the second of these which I don’t know how to do.  When I have found a participant I want to send a private message to I have hit the Enter key to select that participant, but then when I either tab or Alt-Tab to the chat window there is always a message in it that says, “Find a Participant,” instead of showing it is a message from me to the participant.  I assume I must be doing something wrong, but I can’t figure out what.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Using JAWS to Send Private Message during Zoom Meeting

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

I have just recently become acquainted with Zoom and am still learning how to use it.  I know how to join a meeting both via a computer and via phone.  After I join a meeting, I know how to tab over to the list of participants.  I know that when I come to the list to press the Enter key and the list will appear and you can go through it with JAWS.  I know that in a Zoom meeting you can send a message either to everyone or privately to someone, and it is the second of these which I don’t know how to do.  When I have found a participant I want to send a private message to I have hit the Enter key to select that participant, but then when I either tab or Alt-Tab to the chat window there is always a message in it that says, “Find a Participant,” instead of showing it is a message from me to the participant.  I assume I must be doing something wrong, but I can’t figure out what.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Dave Durber
 

Tom:

Jonnathan Mosen is offering his tutorial on Zoom, free of charge.

HTH

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?


Thanks, Milton.

I've been thinking about acquiring the book, although I think I only need some basic commands and info at this point.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
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On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








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moderated Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

William Windels
 

Thx Robin,

Thsi is something that can be used but it takes manual work to do this with every message that can have a other mail-message with the same subject

 

 

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Van: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] Namens Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Verzonden: donderdag 30 juli 2020 16:36
Aan: main@jfw.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

I have not seen an option in Outlook rules to do what you want. Microsoft Accessibility might have an idea.  Here is an idea that I think could help you.  If you have your inbox sorted so that that newest is on top, you can move to the first message by a given person, Then, hit the application key while you are still in the inbox.  Hit F to jump to the “Find related” menu option. A submenu will open and the first option, on which you’ll already have focus, is called messages in this conversation.  It will display all the related messages with the same subject line and you can delete the older ones and/or read just the top message you need.  You may need to use F6 or Control Tab to bring focus to the list of messages. 

 

I have never used the cleanup conversation option, so I don’t know the ins and outs of that feature.

 

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

Hi Brian, 

The traditional conversation view doesn't work. It works well if there is a real conversation so, every body in the discussion replys on the other mail.

In my situation, the messages are send separately and have no connection to each other except that de subject and the sender are the same.

But this critheria are not enough to determine it as a conversation.

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

 

Op 29 jul. 2020 om 22:54 heeft Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> het volgende geschreven:

Why not just use conventional conversation view, which uses date, and make the sort order newest to oldest?

Very conventional, very common, and gets you to the very message you want, every time, if you've either read the earlier ones or deleted them.  Otherwise you'll land on the first most recent unread one, I think.  I tend to clean out what comes in very quickly when it comes to business related messages, so I don't often have anything but the most recent one in a given conversation when the next message arrives to begin with.

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moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Milton Ota
 

Don't forget that the Mosen book is FREE and he devotes a whole chapter on setting up meetings.



And, you can just listen to the chapter on setting up meetings by playing the specific mp3 file which covers that topic.

There is one other book that recently came out and its available through the Carol Center for the Blind, it cost $18.000.

Brian Hartgen who wrote the scripts which is available with the latest version of JAWS also did a webinar and you can purchase the recording of the 3-part webinar from his site at https://hartgen.org/


Milton

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Thanks, Milton.

I've been thinking about acquiring the book, although I think I only need some basic commands and info at this point.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








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you spend it?

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moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Milton.

I've been thinking about acquiring the book, although I think I only need some basic commands and info at this point.

Thanks!

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...




moderated Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

Van Lant, Robin
 

I have not seen an option in Outlook rules to do what you want. Microsoft Accessibility might have an idea.  Here is an idea that I think could help you.  If you have your inbox sorted so that that newest is on top, you can move to the first message by a given person, Then, hit the application key while you are still in the inbox.  Hit F to jump to the “Find related” menu option. A submenu will open and the first option, on which you’ll already have focus, is called messages in this conversation.  It will display all the related messages with the same subject line and you can delete the older ones and/or read just the top message you need.  You may need to use F6 or Control Tab to bring focus to the list of messages. 

 

I have never used the cleanup conversation option, so I don’t know the ins and outs of that feature.

 

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

Hi Brian, 

The traditional conversation view doesn't work. It works well if there is a real conversation so, every body in the discussion replys on the other mail.

In my situation, the messages are send separately and have no connection to each other except that de subject and the sender are the same.

But this critheria are not enough to determine it as a conversation.

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone



Op 29 jul. 2020 om 22:54 heeft Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> het volgende geschreven:

Why not just use conventional conversation view, which uses date, and make the sort order newest to oldest?

Very conventional, very common, and gets you to the very message you want, every time, if you've either read the earlier ones or deleted them.  Otherwise you'll land on the first most recent unread one, I think.  I tend to clean out what comes in very quickly when it comes to business related messages, so I don't often have anything but the most recent one in a given conversation when the next message arrives to begin with.

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moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...