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moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Dave Durber
 

Tom:

Jonnathan Mosen is offering his tutorial on Zoom, free of charge.

HTH

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?


Thanks, Milton.

I've been thinking about acquiring the book, although I think I only need some basic commands and info at this point.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...




moderated Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

William Windels
 

Thx Robin,

Thsi is something that can be used but it takes manual work to do this with every message that can have a other mail-message with the same subject

 

 

William Windels

 

Incident Manager SWF

02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdagnamiddag)

 

Van: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] Namens Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Verzonden: donderdag 30 juli 2020 16:36
Aan: main@jfw.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

I have not seen an option in Outlook rules to do what you want. Microsoft Accessibility might have an idea.  Here is an idea that I think could help you.  If you have your inbox sorted so that that newest is on top, you can move to the first message by a given person, Then, hit the application key while you are still in the inbox.  Hit F to jump to the “Find related” menu option. A submenu will open and the first option, on which you’ll already have focus, is called messages in this conversation.  It will display all the related messages with the same subject line and you can delete the older ones and/or read just the top message you need.  You may need to use F6 or Control Tab to bring focus to the list of messages. 

 

I have never used the cleanup conversation option, so I don’t know the ins and outs of that feature.

 

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

Hi Brian, 

The traditional conversation view doesn't work. It works well if there is a real conversation so, every body in the discussion replys on the other mail.

In my situation, the messages are send separately and have no connection to each other except that de subject and the sender are the same.

But this critheria are not enough to determine it as a conversation.

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

 

Op 29 jul. 2020 om 22:54 heeft Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> het volgende geschreven:

Why not just use conventional conversation view, which uses date, and make the sort order newest to oldest?

Very conventional, very common, and gets you to the very message you want, every time, if you've either read the earlier ones or deleted them.  Otherwise you'll land on the first most recent unread one, I think.  I tend to clean out what comes in very quickly when it comes to business related messages, so I don't often have anything but the most recent one in a given conversation when the next message arrives to begin with.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

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moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Milton Ota
 

Don't forget that the Mosen book is FREE and he devotes a whole chapter on setting up meetings.



And, you can just listen to the chapter on setting up meetings by playing the specific mp3 file which covers that topic.

There is one other book that recently came out and its available through the Carol Center for the Blind, it cost $18.000.

Brian Hartgen who wrote the scripts which is available with the latest version of JAWS also did a webinar and you can purchase the recording of the 3-part webinar from his site at https://hartgen.org/


Milton

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Thanks, Milton.

I've been thinking about acquiring the book, although I think I only need some basic commands and info at this point.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...




moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Milton.

I've been thinking about acquiring the book, although I think I only need some basic commands and info at this point.

Thanks!

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...




moderated Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

Van Lant, Robin
 

I have not seen an option in Outlook rules to do what you want. Microsoft Accessibility might have an idea.  Here is an idea that I think could help you.  If you have your inbox sorted so that that newest is on top, you can move to the first message by a given person, Then, hit the application key while you are still in the inbox.  Hit F to jump to the “Find related” menu option. A submenu will open and the first option, on which you’ll already have focus, is called messages in this conversation.  It will display all the related messages with the same subject line and you can delete the older ones and/or read just the top message you need.  You may need to use F6 or Control Tab to bring focus to the list of messages. 

 

I have never used the cleanup conversation option, so I don’t know the ins and outs of that feature.

 

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

Hi Brian, 

The traditional conversation view doesn't work. It works well if there is a real conversation so, every body in the discussion replys on the other mail.

In my situation, the messages are send separately and have no connection to each other except that de subject and the sender are the same.

But this critheria are not enough to determine it as a conversation.

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone



Op 29 jul. 2020 om 22:54 heeft Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> het volgende geschreven:

Why not just use conventional conversation view, which uses date, and make the sort order newest to oldest?

Very conventional, very common, and gets you to the very message you want, every time, if you've either read the earlier ones or deleted them.  Otherwise you'll land on the first most recent unread one, I think.  I tend to clean out what comes in very quickly when it comes to business related messages, so I don't often have anything but the most recent one in a given conversation when the next message arrives to begin with.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

You can find clear and concise instructions from Jonathan Mosens book "Meet Me in the Cloud". And you can get it for free from Mosen.org.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...




moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Tom Behler
 

Hello.

If anyone has a set of instructions or tips for inviting people to a Zoom meeting, hosting a Zoom meeting, etc., please post to the list.

I have been somewhat successful with these processes, based on what I've been able to figure out so far with a bit of trial and error, but a nice clear set of instructions would help.


I'm sure that I, and others, would benefit from this.

Thanks!

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with
jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this
would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for
any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which
the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as
long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let
the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the
same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure
you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need
to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice
at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...




moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Tom Behler
 

Hank:

It depends on what you want to do, but general meeting access with Zoom is
actually quite easy.

If you are sent a meeting link, it's easy to join a meeting and participate.

You first have to download and install the Zoom app.

A list of most-used Zoom key strokes can be obtained via Alt H--the help
menu.

I hope this helps at least a little.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William
Merchant
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have never used
zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with jaws to join and be
part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this would be so very much
appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the same link.

If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which the system creates
for you then no. And those links are available as long as you want them for.

If you're using a meeting ID that you let the system create for you. And if
you want them to convene with the same link, just scheduled a meeting for
three hours. And I'm for sure you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow,
one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need to create
three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx




moderated Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

Then consider creating a manually run rule that looks for messages with subject containing what you need to get rid of that are older than today, and kicking that off as needed.

You might be able to do that same thing with a rule for when something is received with the subject you want to nuke, but it would also require custom VBA scripting to avoid nuking the message you just received based upon what I can find in the Rules Wizard.

I'd just create a rule that deletes all messages with that subject that you can run after having read the latest one that arrives that you can kick off after having read the latest one and don't need it anymore.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Milton Ota
 

Hello,

My first suggestion to you is that you update your JAWS version to 2020.
Freedom Scientific is offering a discount to upgrade for the price that
cannot be beat. Go to their website and look for the information about the
summer convention offerings. This special will end on July 31. You have
another option and that is to install the latest version of JAWS for free
and this offering as of now will end on August 31. Again, you can find
information about this on their website. Go to:
https://freedomscientific.com

When you install the latest version of Zoom, it will install spripts that
will give you better functionality in combination between JAWS and Zoom. The
scripts were written by Brian Hartgen and given to Freedom Scientific. If
you are wanting more functionality you might want to purchase a set of more
advance scripts from Brian Hartgen. To find out more about Brian's scripts
for purchase go to:
https://hartgen.org/

There are two books that are available to help you learn about all the
things you can do along with the keyboard commands. The first is "Meet Me In
The Cloud". This books is an audio book in MP3 files, available free from
https://mosen.org/ and is a bit old but still will help. The author is
Jonathan Mosen.

The second book is available either from the Carol Center for the Blind and
I don't remember the title of this book at the moment. I think you can also
get this book from National Braille Press at https://nbp.org/ This book was
priced at $18.00 for an MS Word file.

Lastly, you can also find some keyboard commands on the Zoom website.

Downloading Zoom is Free if you are just joining a group conference. If you
are intending to host a group conference the free version will give you 40
minutes access. Zoom offers different pricing plans that you can purchase so
check their website at https://zoom.us/

Hope this helps.

Milton

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William
Merchant
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 3:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have never used
zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with jaws to join and be
part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this would be so very much
appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the same link.

If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which the system creates
for you then no. And those links are available as long as you want them for.

If you're using a meeting ID that you let the system create for you. And if
you want them to convene with the same link, just scheduled a meeting for
three hours. And I'm for sure you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
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On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow,
one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need to create
three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx




moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

James English
 

Hi,

Zoom is so accessible it's like it's been made especially with blind
users in mind. There is literally nothing I've not been able to work
out how to do. I'm happy to give any tips.

- James

On 7/30/20, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom
with jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help
with this would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in
advance for any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights
which the system creates for you then no. And those links are
available as long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting
ID that you let the system create for you. And if you want them
to convene with the same link, just scheduled a meeting for three
hours. And I'm for sure you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I
need to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene
thrice at the same link?

Thx








--
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How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...




moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

John Covici
 

You might want to update to Jaws 2020, but zoom is quite accessible.
There is a zoom training course and some scripts by Hartgen consulting
which are very useful.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:34:14 -0400,
Hank William Merchant wrote:


Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have
never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom
with jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help
with this would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in
advance for any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the
same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights
which the system creates for you then no. And those links are
available as long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting
ID that you let the system create for you. And if you want them
to convene with the same link, just scheduled a meeting for three
hours. And I'm for sure you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people
tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I
need to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene
thrice at the same link?

Thx








--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated place-marckers on websites with jaws 2019

William Windels
 

Hello,

 

I work with chrome and jaws 2019.

 

On some webpages, not all defined marckers on a webpage are shown (from top to bottom) with letter k but, with shift plus k at the end of the page, the missed marckers are shown?

 

What I do:

first, i press ctrl plus home, then k,k,k,k... and then, athe end, i do shift plus k

 

Vispero said about that:

“The order is based on page position, not which marker you set first. It cannot be changed.

The order of place markers cannot be changed as to how they appear on a web site.”

 

So, with this comments from vispero: I should reach all marckers with tab if I go from top (ctrl+home) to bottom?

But this doesn’t happen.

Any idea’s?

 

 

William Windels

 

Incident Manager SWF

02/506 0 487 / 0477 88 4276 (ik werk niet op maandag- en vrijdagnamiddag)

 


moderated Re: how user friendly is zoom with jaws?

Hank William Merchant
 

Hello,

I am a jaws18 user using the latest 2004 release of Win10. I have never used zoom, so i am wondering how easy is it to use zoom with jaws to join and be part of scheduled meetings? Any help with this would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help with this.








Kindest regards,

Hank


From: Joseph Hudson
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx




moderated Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

William Windels
 

Hi Brian, 
The traditional conversation view doesn't work. It works well if there is a real conversation so, every body in the discussion replys on the other mail.
In my situation, the messages are send separately and have no connection to each other except that de subject and the sender are the same.
But this critheria are not enough to determine it as a conversation.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 29 jul. 2020 om 22:54 heeft Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> het volgende geschreven:

Why not just use conventional conversation view, which uses date, and make the sort order newest to oldest?

Very conventional, very common, and gets you to the very message you want, every time, if you've either read the earlier ones or deleted them.  Otherwise you'll land on the first most recent unread one, I think.  I tend to clean out what comes in very quickly when it comes to business related messages, so I don't often have anything but the most recent one in a given conversation when the next message arrives to begin with.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: android vs ios.

Marty Hutchings
 

I prefer the double tap, because it is more intentional as with a single tap, accidents happen.



Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

Totally wrong, my Android phones work with all the Braille displays I have.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: 27 June 2020 19:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

Braille support on Android is nonexistent. I tried to get this display
working on 3 different Android devices, and got nothing. Yet the OS claimed
it was supported. Braille support on all operating systems is very badly
tested, and is of a poorer quality than speech support, which is sad times,
but at least it's usable on everything else except Android. So if you need
portable braille, you're pretty much stuck with Apple, sadly. Android has
some nice options, and I'd prefer it, but I like to read a lot, so that
doesn't work.


moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Joseph Hudson
 

Hello, after using a personal meeting ID they're always using the same link. If you schedule them under separate meeting nights which the system creates for you then no. And those links are available as long as you want them for. If you're using a meeting ID that you let the system create for you. And if you want them to convene with the same link, just scheduled a meeting for three hours. And I'm for sure you'll be good to go.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Jul 29, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx




moderated Re: android vs ios.

Steve Nutt
 

Totally wrong, my Android phones work with all the Braille displays I have.

All the best

Steve

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77 Exeter Close
Stevenage
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: 27 June 2020 19:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

Braille support on Android is nonexistent. I tried to get this display
working on 3 different Android devices, and got nothing. Yet the OS claimed
it was supported. Braille support on all operating systems is very badly
tested, and is of a poorer quality than speech support, which is sad times,
but at least it's usable on everything else except Android. So if you need
portable braille, you're pretty much stuck with Apple, sadly. Android has
some nice options, and I'd prefer it, but I like to read a lot, so that
doesn't work.


moderated Re: android vs ios.

Steve Nutt
 

Any OS is more intuitive to you if that’s the one you use.  iOS is less intuitive to me, and I like the fact that with Android, you can single tap, you don’t have to double or split tap.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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E: steve@...

W: https://www.comproom.co.uk

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 27 June 2020 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

I also think iOS is just more intuitive and even after all these years when both platforms have matured, iOS is in my view more polished and easier to use.

There is a load of material about iOS and iPhones out there, www.Applevis.com is just one example, Apple has an accessibility support line as well as email address and if you call their support and need help they can even connect to your phone and see what you are doing.

There are email lists for both Android and iOS, the Viphone list is one I have been on for the last 10 years or so since I started using an iPhone.

If you really want to use a keyboard you can actually get Apple's camera connection cable and use it to connect a USB keyboard, but in my opinion a Bluetooth keyboard makes much more sense with a mobile device and there are lots of great options out there from Logitech as well as others.

As for price any high-end Android phone nowadays costs just as much as the high-end iPhones, yes, you can probably pick up a cheap Android phone for $200 or so, but then again the new iPhone SE 2 which was recently released also is not that expensive and from all I heard on the Viphone list as well as in general it's fantastic phone.

I guess it all depends on what you plan to do with the phone, for me being able to transfer information from my PC to the phone by copying and pasting is not very important, I have an Apple Music subscription so I never store mucis on the device any more, I do just about all my audio book listening on Audible and the odd book I have in MP3 I can easily transfer to Voice Dream Reader via Dropbox.

I consider to be a pretty profficient user of my iPhone, but I absolutely don't believe in being able to replace a computer with my iPhone, I don't compose long texts on my phone, if I have to type a longer email or want to have an on-going text chat on Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp or other app I do use my Bluetooth keyboard. I have a Logitech K780 which I use via its USB dongle as my primary keyboard for my laptop and if I want to use it wih my iPhone all I have to do is press FN+F2 and it switches over, when I'm done I press F1 and I'm back on my PC.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

I have both, and in terms of ease of use with regard to the gestures, it is my opinion that the iPhone is much easier to operate.

On the other hand, with Android, I can have Eloquence for the voice, and I can simply copy and paste to and from my computer to the Android phone.

With Android, you can get a USB adapter and plug in a desktop keyboard or anything USB, you can't do that with IOS.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:23 AM

Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

hi folks,

 

i know that this is not the forum for this question, but maybe one of you good people might have some ideas as to where i should go.

currently, i have an old nokia phone about 300 years of age.

i have decided to take the great leap into the unknown and start using a modern tap screen phone.

i have a samsung android phone with talkback on it, but it is proving to be somewhat of a trouble.

i would say, that it is just because i am new to it, but web sites offering training tips seem to be non existent.

also, the braille keyboard seems to be a bit of a pain. i also dont want to have to attach a keyboard to it, as this defeats the purpose of having a phone you can carry around with you.

on the other hand, i have heard, that apple's voice over is much better.

again, training seems to be the problem. i should be able to get my hands on an ifone.

any thoughts?

anyone prefer one over the other?

cheers,

pat

 


moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Lino Morales
 

Hi. If you have a free account its 40 minutes. Just be sure you don't give out your PID to anyone who shouldn't have it.

On 7/29/2020 5:02 PM, Thabo Baseki wrote:
Hello!

Just a few weeks ago, I had Zoom meetings which lasted for nearly 4 hours consecutively. The meetings were hosted by a pro account holder. With that being said, I guess you should be able to have all the three zoom meetings as planned, from nine, to 10, to 11.

Best

Thabo


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:54:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: How long is a Zoom meeting available?
 
I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow,
one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00.  Do I need to create
three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx