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moderated Re: android vs ios.

Steve Nutt
 

Totally wrong, my Android phones work with all the Braille displays I have.

All the best

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Csercsics
Sent: 27 June 2020 19:05
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

Braille support on Android is nonexistent. I tried to get this display
working on 3 different Android devices, and got nothing. Yet the OS claimed
it was supported. Braille support on all operating systems is very badly
tested, and is of a poorer quality than speech support, which is sad times,
but at least it's usable on everything else except Android. So if you need
portable braille, you're pretty much stuck with Apple, sadly. Android has
some nice options, and I'd prefer it, but I like to read a lot, so that
doesn't work.


moderated Re: android vs ios.

Steve Nutt
 

Any OS is more intuitive to you if that’s the one you use.  iOS is less intuitive to me, and I like the fact that with Android, you can single tap, you don’t have to double or split tap.

 

All the best


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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 27 June 2020 08:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

I also think iOS is just more intuitive and even after all these years when both platforms have matured, iOS is in my view more polished and easier to use.

There is a load of material about iOS and iPhones out there, www.Applevis.com is just one example, Apple has an accessibility support line as well as email address and if you call their support and need help they can even connect to your phone and see what you are doing.

There are email lists for both Android and iOS, the Viphone list is one I have been on for the last 10 years or so since I started using an iPhone.

If you really want to use a keyboard you can actually get Apple's camera connection cable and use it to connect a USB keyboard, but in my opinion a Bluetooth keyboard makes much more sense with a mobile device and there are lots of great options out there from Logitech as well as others.

As for price any high-end Android phone nowadays costs just as much as the high-end iPhones, yes, you can probably pick up a cheap Android phone for $200 or so, but then again the new iPhone SE 2 which was recently released also is not that expensive and from all I heard on the Viphone list as well as in general it's fantastic phone.

I guess it all depends on what you plan to do with the phone, for me being able to transfer information from my PC to the phone by copying and pasting is not very important, I have an Apple Music subscription so I never store mucis on the device any more, I do just about all my audio book listening on Audible and the odd book I have in MP3 I can easily transfer to Voice Dream Reader via Dropbox.

I consider to be a pretty profficient user of my iPhone, but I absolutely don't believe in being able to replace a computer with my iPhone, I don't compose long texts on my phone, if I have to type a longer email or want to have an on-going text chat on Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp or other app I do use my Bluetooth keyboard. I have a Logitech K780 which I use via its USB dongle as my primary keyboard for my laptop and if I want to use it wih my iPhone all I have to do is press FN+F2 and it switches over, when I'm done I press F1 and I'm back on my PC.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

I have both, and in terms of ease of use with regard to the gestures, it is my opinion that the iPhone is much easier to operate.

On the other hand, with Android, I can have Eloquence for the voice, and I can simply copy and paste to and from my computer to the Android phone.

With Android, you can get a USB adapter and plug in a desktop keyboard or anything USB, you can't do that with IOS.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:23 AM

Subject: Re: android vs ios.

 

hi folks,

 

i know that this is not the forum for this question, but maybe one of you good people might have some ideas as to where i should go.

currently, i have an old nokia phone about 300 years of age.

i have decided to take the great leap into the unknown and start using a modern tap screen phone.

i have a samsung android phone with talkback on it, but it is proving to be somewhat of a trouble.

i would say, that it is just because i am new to it, but web sites offering training tips seem to be non existent.

also, the braille keyboard seems to be a bit of a pain. i also dont want to have to attach a keyboard to it, as this defeats the purpose of having a phone you can carry around with you.

on the other hand, i have heard, that apple's voice over is much better.

again, training seems to be the problem. i should be able to get my hands on an ifone.

any thoughts?

anyone prefer one over the other?

cheers,

pat

 


moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Lino Morales
 

Hi. If you have a free account its 40 minutes. Just be sure you don't give out your PID to anyone who shouldn't have it.

On 7/29/2020 5:02 PM, Thabo Baseki wrote:
Hello!

Just a few weeks ago, I had Zoom meetings which lasted for nearly 4 hours consecutively. The meetings were hosted by a pro account holder. With that being said, I guess you should be able to have all the three zoom meetings as planned, from nine, to 10, to 11.

Best

Thabo


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:54:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: How long is a Zoom meeting available?
 
I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow,
one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00.  Do I need to create
three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx





moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Marty Hutchings
 

I could be wrong, but I think that I read that the meeting ID can be used for 24 hours.  If the meeting is set up as a reoccurring meeting, the meeting ID is good for 6 month.
 
Love in Christ
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?
 

Doesn't it depend on your version of Zoom is a paid or free version?  As far as I know, the free version allows for 40 minutes meeting, while the paid version allows for the meeting organizer's discretion as to the meeting's length.  I'm not sure though if there are different paid schemes or plans.  Cheers!

On 30/7/2020 5:09 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
Based on what I've observed, a Zoom meeting is "perpetual" in nature.  The link, and ability to use it, remains in place until and unless the original organizer closes/deletes the meeting (and not having actually gone through that process, I don't know what it is).

My partner has been joining the same Zoom meeting on Wednesday afternoons for something like 8 to 10 weeks now.  Of course, if you're the first arrival at any given time you'll have to wait for the next person to join.

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moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

 

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 06:08 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Doesn't it depend on your version of Zoom is a paid or free version?
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It almost certainly does.  And it's almost certainly not possible with the free version.  But who knows what might be up during Life in the Time of COVID-19?
 
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moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Jaffar Sidek
 

Doesn't it depend on your version of Zoom is a paid or free version?  As far as I know, the free version allows for 40 minutes meeting, while the paid version allows for the meeting organizer's discretion as to the meeting's length.  I'm not sure though if there are different paid schemes or plans.  Cheers!

On 30/7/2020 5:09 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
Based on what I've observed, a Zoom meeting is "perpetual" in nature.  The link, and ability to use it, remains in place until and unless the original organizer closes/deletes the meeting (and not having actually gone through that process, I don't know what it is).

My partner has been joining the same Zoom meeting on Wednesday afternoons for something like 8 to 10 weeks now.  Of course, if you're the first arrival at any given time you'll have to wait for the next person to join.

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moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

 

The one thing I'll add is that your decision should be partially driven by "how private" any one of those meetings is in terms of someone not hanging around and listening in.

If you know that you only want specific people to attend, then separate meetings might be a good idea, since only those chosen attendees would be given the link for their specific meeting.

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moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

 

Ann,

Provided you have a Zoom account that allows meetings in excess of 40
minutes when attended by more than two people, I'd save yourself the
administrative grief and schedule one meeting.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow, one at
9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need to create three separate
meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx


moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

 

Based on what I've observed, a Zoom meeting is "perpetual" in nature.  The link, and ability to use it, remains in place until and unless the original organizer closes/deletes the meeting (and not having actually gone through that process, I don't know what it is).

My partner has been joining the same Zoom meeting on Wednesday afternoons for something like 8 to 10 weeks now.  Of course, if you're the first arrival at any given time you'll have to wait for the next person to join.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

Do you have a license for Zoom? If you have a license for Zoom, check the
Zoom website about your plan and its features. You might be able to have all
three hours without setting up new rooms for each hour.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow, one at
9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need to create three separate
meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx


moderated Re: How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...>
 

Hello!

Just a few weeks ago, I had Zoom meetings which lasted for nearly 4 hours consecutively. The meetings were hosted by a pro account holder. With that being said, I guess you should be able to have all the three zoom meetings as planned, from nine, to 10, to 11.

Best

Thabo


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:54:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: How long is a Zoom meeting available?
 
I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow,
one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00.  Do I need to create
three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx





moderated Re: conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

 

Why not just use conventional conversation view, which uses date, and make the sort order newest to oldest?

Very conventional, very common, and gets you to the very message you want, every time, if you've either read the earlier ones or deleted them.  Otherwise you'll land on the first most recent unread one, I think.  I tend to clean out what comes in very quickly when it comes to business related messages, so I don't often have anything but the most recent one in a given conversation when the next message arrives to begin with.

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moderated How long is a Zoom meeting available?

Ann Byrne
 

I have three Zoom meetings with almost all the same people tomorrow, one at 9:00, one at 10:00, and one at 11:00. Do I need to create three separate meetings, or can we all reconvene thrice at the same link?

Thx


moderated conversations withjaws in outlook 2013

William Windels
 

Hello,

 

Since not everything is accessible in ms outlook, like the treadview in outlook 2010, I was wondering If I am missing something.

 

My question:

I have several mail messages from always the same sender and sometimes the same subject and I want just to have always

Only the newest mail with that subject.

This messages come from the 4me ticketing system as notification so, the subject starts with request #  and then a number and after it, the subject of the ticket.

 

Since every change in the ticket generates a new mailmessage and only the last message is important for me, I would like that outlook cleans all old messages so that only the newest message from each ticket stays in the inbox.

 

Making treads and cleam up them , does not work perhaps it’s not a discussion and/or , all mails are from the same sender.

 

I need a rule like this:

Remove all the mails inwith the same subject that are older then the newest one.

 

Any hint is very welcome

 

Kind regards,

William Windels

 

 

 

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moderated Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

Mark Fisher
 


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I've found using WebEx Teams desktop app good however sometimes their can be alot of tabbing. Meetings through WebEx Teams allows muting vidoe with a keystroke but this is not in the WebEx Meeting browser app. Also, in the browser app, their is no keystroke to raise your hand - I've raised this with Cisco WebEx Accessibility. We can schedule our WebEx meetings internally through Outlook which works well and allows people    to join internally by the app or WebEx Meetings. I agree that the desktop app is more accessible at this point from my experience.
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moderated Update on Chrome and Jaws Download

Les Kriegler
 

I tried the download again and discovered the following message: google cannot securely download this file. I chose the discard button. My settings are at their defaults since I just re-installed Chrome.

Les


moderated Downloading Jaws

Les Kriegler
 

Hi All,

I wished to download the latest version of Jaws2020 this morning using Chrome. It didn’t finish the download, and I saw a file starting with the word unconfirmed in my downloads folder. Eventually, I tried the same download with Microsoft Edge and was able to complete the download as expected. So I uninstalled and re-installed Chrome. I tried the download again using Chrome and could not complete the download. Any ideas as to why this is happening?

Best Regards,

 

Les


moderated Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

Abraham Sweiss
 

I thought it opened in the app, but could be wrong.

Before using the app, I always had trouble logging into a webex session.

Once I started using the app, it was easier for me to log into webex.

Everytime someone enters in a comment to the chat, jaws reads it out, only issue is when the chat is rather active.jaws gets noisey.

 

I use short cut keys to navigate

https://help.webex.com/en-us/7wr87q/Cisco-Webex-Teams-Keyboard-Navigation-and-Shortcuts

 

and

 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/collaboration/CWMS/3_0/Managing_Meetings/cwms_b_managing-meetings-cwms-release-3-0/cwms_b_managing-cwms-release-3-0_chapter_011.pdf

 

have some good information.

 

Thanks, Abraham            

 

From: Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

 

Abraham,

I am trying to figure out the desktop app.  If I open the app, I see   a list of my meetings, a button to start or create a new meeting and some unlabeled buttons.  From your experience, does a meeting load in the app if you launch it from a meeting in your list?  I’m trying to understand if it’s launching a browser window or a special meeting window that is in the app.  I launched a meeting from the list yesterday and did not feel like the experience of navigating was that different, so I’m wondering if it really loaded in the app.  I’ll try logging into a couple additional meetings today. 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

 

I am saying it is more accessible than the browser.

 

Thanks,abraham 

 

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:31 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:



Hi

 

Are you saying that the desktop app is accessible? I was under the impression that WebX wasn’t that accessible at all.

 

Thanks

Debbie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2020 2:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: is chat function in Webex accessible?

 

I would suggest using the desktop app.

The browser tends to be problematic with regards to accessibility.

 

Thanks,abraham 



On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Anyone figured out how to use chat in Webex?  JAWS will read some of the chats as they come in, but I cannot figure out how to get to that area and/or type a message.  I’m using Google Chrome to access meetings and JAWS 2020.

 

 

 

 

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moderated Re: Now, I've Lost Word from my Desktop

Ward Dudley
 

Hi Brian,


I haven't had it happen since I have updated to 2004, yet but holding my breath.  LOL  I saw it on some tech list months ago when it started.  I don't remember which one now.  Getting old.


Ward



On 7/28/2020 4:02 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 02:34 PM, Ward Dudley wrote:
It's been a ongoing problem for several months now.  Things just disappear from the desktop. 
Just as a counter data point, I have had not a single call to this effect and complaints of same have not been making the rounds of any of the computer technical forums I frequent.

If this is happening repeatedly, and you are certain that you have done nothing to remove something, then if you are on Version 1909 or earlier and already have the ISO file for that version, or are on Version 2004 and need to download it, you could try Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

 

 
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moderated Re: Now, I've Lost Word from my Desktop

Ward Dudley
 

Shirley,


Nope it wasn't you.  LOL  I thought the same thing.  Then I thought that something had gotten into my computer.  I did all kings of scans and even called Microsoft line but there was nothing. 


Computers have to love them but sometimes GRRRRRRR!. 


Ward



On 7/28/2020 2:55 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

I was afraid it was me. I kept asking myself what I had done. But the thing is, Word was on my desktop, and the next time I turned on my computer, it was gone. It wasn’t in the Recycle Bin, either.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Ward Dudley
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 2:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Now, I've Lost Word from my Desktop

 

It's been a ongoing problem for several months now.  Things just disappear from the desktop. 

 

Ward

 

 

On 7/28/2020 11:09 AM, David Ingram wrote:

What caused this to happen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Jul 28, 2020 10:40 AM
To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
Subject: Re: Now, I've Lost Word from my Desktop

Hi Tim,

 

Your instructions worked perfectly. Thank you so much. Word is back on desktop and it only says “Word.” I won’t have to rename it.

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Timothy Appleby
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 11:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Now, I've Lost Word from my Desktop

 

Hi there. Here’s how to retrieve something from the ether, especially, an icon that’s usually on the desktop. If it’s not in the Recycle Bin, you can locate  it using the search field on the Start Menu, click on the item you have searched, E.G. “Word”, right click on it, choose Open File Location, Word should show up there, right click on that, arrow down to Send to Desktop as a shortcut, boom, you should have Word back on your desktop.

 

I hope this information helps.

 

Tim Appleby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 11:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Now, I've Lost Word from my Desktop

 

Hi Listers,

 

It’s beyond my skills to understand why this happens, but Word is no longer showing up on my desktop. How do I get it back? It’s still in my computer, just not where I want to grab it.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy