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moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Hank William Merchant
 

 
Hello Kevin,
 
Sorry that I am off topic with this email. Way to go on this new work from home job that you start on Monday! If I can ask, what is the name of this company and where are they located that you have obtained at this work from home customer service representative job that you start training forr on Monday? Any help with this would be so very much appreciated. Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help with this.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
All the best,
Kind regards,
 
Hank
 
 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
 
Well if that is of concern, I would use my own license and contact either the state agency first, or a private assistance provider, such as Easter Seals.  They can use "ticket to work" and if you aren't interested in giving the job to the state agency, let one of the private agencies use the ticket to work program.
Whoever provides it, other than the employer, gets reimbursed for their work with you.
The company may be able to benefit from tax incentives as well if they provide it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Weiss via groups.io
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
 
Also, let’s not push our rights back into the dark ages.  What if you required a refreshable Braille Display.  Would you fork over $5,000 and purchase your own?  We have every right to have the equipment to perform our jobs!  We have fought long and hard for this right, don’t shove it out the door.  If you purchase your own license of JAWS you set a precedent for every single person with a disability that this company hires in the future.
Jim Weiss
National Federation of the Blind of Ohio - Board of Directors
Cuyahoga County Chapter - President




 
jimweiss72@...
 
 
The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:08 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:
 
That is an excellent point. 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
Several people have suggested avoiding paying for a Professional copy of JAWS and use a home use license.  The home use license is for just that, not for work.  Don’t forget that JAWS reaches out to the license server every time it is started.  You don’t know what type of information is being sent to the license server.  By using JAWS home annual license for work purposes is strictly forbidden and you take the chance of losing your license.  You may take your personal laptop to the office and use it for non-work related tasks, but if you are performing a job and using JAWS it really needs to be the Professional license.
Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@...

“Failure is simply an opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.” | Henry Ford



On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:54 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io<REALMAN02@...> wrote:
Here’s how I would approach my employer.
Tell them you’re thrilled to be working for them and you want to hit the ground running as far as being productive. In order to do this, you need to have JAWS, a “screen reader” (you may have to explain what that means) on the work laptop you’ll be using. 
If you are going to use your own personal copy of JAWS, tell them that and say you would like to install your own copy of JAWS on the computer (that means they won’t have to pay for a copy of JAWS). Emphasize that, if u’r eusing your own personal copy, they won’t have to pay anything.  If you want them to buy the program, you’ll need to tell them that and stress that it’s a reasonable accommodation you need in order to do the job. You don’t necessarily need to use ADA specifically. 
I urge you to get in touch with them immediately. 
Stress the positive nature of you being ready and eager to start  working; all you need is this one small reasonable accommodation, etc etc. 
Hope this helps. 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.
On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.
I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kevin Minor
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM
Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
Hi.
I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.
First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.
My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?
I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.
Thanks in advance.
Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly

 
moderated Finding my version of excel

brian albriton
 

What’s the best way to find my version of excel. I want to send a message to support and give them accurate information.

The one I’m familiar with is insert -control- v

According to that command I have version 16.

All the best, Brian

 

 
moderated Re: Route jaws to PC no longer working

JM Casey
 

It doesn’t sound crazy at all. Keyboards can short out very easily and that’s one of the primary symptoms – some of the keys will not work. A good reason not to eat and drink in front of your computer I guess *grins*…

But before we go there – what happens when you press jaws key + minus then? Does jaws announce anything? Or is it silent? DO other jaws key combinations work? What if you turn keyboard help on—can you use the combinationt hen?

Finally, you tried just restarting jaws and/or the computer?

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: July 23, 2020 6:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Route jaws to PC no longer working

 

This might sound crazy, but test with another keyboard if you have an extra. I had a keyboard quit working with the Escape and numpad delete key. Different keyboard, back to working.

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: David Reynolds <david@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 4:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Route jaws to PC no longer working

 

Hi,

Using jaws key numpad minus to route jaws to pc is no longer working.

I’m using the latest version of JAWS, and I’m hoping that this is something I’ve messed up rather than a bug in jaws.

 

Very grateful for any help with this,

 

David.
moderated Re: Route jaws to PC no longer working

David Reynolds <david@...>
 

Hi,

 

I notice it works fine when I use shift+dots 4-6 on my focus 80.

No, numlock is off and it used to work fine with this keyboard,

Route PC to jaws works fine,

Thanks,

 

David.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: 23 July 2020 23:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Route jaws to PC no longer working

 

Works for me and I’m on same version. You didn’t accidentally turn numlock on, did you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Reynolds
Sent: July 23, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Route jaws to PC no longer working

 

Hi,

Using jaws key numpad minus to route jaws to pc is no longer working.

I’m using the latest version of JAWS, and I’m hoping that this is something I’ve messed up rather than a bug in jaws.

 

Very grateful for any help with this,

 

David.
moderated Re: Route jaws to PC no longer working

Don Mauck
 

This might sound crazy, but test with another keyboard if you have an extra. I had a keyboard quit working with the Escape and numpad delete key. Different keyboard, back to working.

 

 

Regards:

 

Don Mauck | Senior Accessibility Evangelist | Accessibility Program Office |  (APO)

 

303.334.4184

Don.mauck@...

 

From: David Reynolds <david@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 4:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Route jaws to PC no longer working

 

Hi,

Using jaws key numpad minus to route jaws to pc is no longer working.

I’m using the latest version of JAWS, and I’m hoping that this is something I’ve messed up rather than a bug in jaws.

 

Very grateful for any help with this,

 

David.
moderated Re: Route jaws to PC no longer working

James Homuth
 

Works for me and I’m on same version. You didn’t accidentally turn numlock on, did you?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Reynolds
Sent: July 23, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Route jaws to PC no longer working

 

Hi,

Using jaws key numpad minus to route jaws to pc is no longer working.

I’m using the latest version of JAWS, and I’m hoping that this is something I’ve messed up rather than a bug in jaws.

 

Very grateful for any help with this,

 

David.
moderated Route jaws to PC no longer working

David Reynolds <david@...>
 

Hi,

Using jaws key numpad minus to route jaws to pc is no longer working.

I’m using the latest version of JAWS, and I’m hoping that this is something I’ve messed up rather than a bug in jaws.

 

Very grateful for any help with this,

 

David.
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Glenn / Lenny
 


Well if that is of concern, I would use my own license and contact either the state agency first, or a private assistance provider, such as Easter Seals.  They can use "ticket to work" and if you aren't interested in giving the job to the state agency, let one of the private agencies use the ticket to work program.
Whoever provides it, other than the employer, gets reimbursed for their work with you.
The company may be able to benefit from tax incentives as well if they provide it.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Also, let’s not push our rights back into the dark ages.  What if you required a refreshable Braille Display.  Would you fork over $5,000 and purchase your own?  We have every right to have the equipment to perform our jobs!  We have fought long and hard for this right, don’t shove it out the door.  If you purchase your own license of JAWS you set a precedent for every single person with a disability that this company hires in the future.
Jim Weiss
National Federation of the Blind of Ohio - Board of Directors
Cuyahoga County Chapter - President







The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:08 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:

That is an excellent point. 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
Several people have suggested avoiding paying for a Professional copy of JAWS and use a home use license.  The home use license is for just that, not for work.  Don’t forget that JAWS reaches out to the license server every time it is started.  You don’t know what type of information is being sent to the license server.  By using JAWS home annual license for work purposes is strictly forbidden and you take the chance of losing your license.  You may take your personal laptop to the office and use it for non-work related tasks, but if you are performing a job and using JAWS it really needs to be the Professional license.
Jim Weiss

“Failure is simply an opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.” | Henry Ford



On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:54 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io<REALMAN02@...> wrote:
Here’s how I would approach my employer.
Tell them you’re thrilled to be working for them and you want to hit the ground running as far as being productive. In order to do this, you need to have JAWS, a “screen reader” (you may have to explain what that means) on the work laptop you’ll be using. 
If you are going to use your own personal copy of JAWS, tell them that and say you would like to install your own copy of JAWS on the computer (that means they won’t have to pay for a copy of JAWS). Emphasize that, if u’r eusing your own personal copy, they won’t have to pay anything.  If you want them to buy the program, you’ll need to tell them that and stress that it’s a reasonable accommodation you need in order to do the job. You don’t necessarily need to use ADA specifically. 
I urge you to get in touch with them immediately. 
Stress the positive nature of you being ready and eager to start  working; all you need is this one small reasonable accommodation, etc etc. 
Hope this helps. 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.
On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.
I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM
Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
Hi.
I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.
First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.
My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?
I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.
Thanks in advance.
Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly
moderated Re: filling out PDFs

Brian Vogel
 

Word 2013, if that's what you have, can definitely open PDF files:

How to edit a PDF document in Word 2013 - TechRepublic

How to Open PDF in Word: 15 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow

Opening PDFs in Word - Word

 

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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
moderated Re: filling out PDFs

Madison Martin
 

2013 I think.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 23, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: filling out PDFs

 

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 10:38 AM, Madison Martin wrote:

guess my version of Word is too old.

What version of Word are you using?
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
moderated Re: filling out PDFs

Brian Vogel
 

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 10:38 AM, Madison Martin wrote:
guess my version of Word is too old.
What version of Word are you using?
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Brian Vogel
 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:42 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:
assuming you have Microsoft 365 on your system, is to set them up to open in Word.
And, to add to that, it need not be Office 365.  The ability to open PDF files within Word, where it converts them, has been around since at least Word 2013.  It may even have been available in Word 2010, but I no longer have a system with Office 2010 to double-check that on.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Brian Vogel
 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 11:23 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
It is your write (sic) under the AdA.
Your right under the ADA is to have a screen reader if that's what you need to do your job.  That screen reader need not be JAWS.  And I expect that as time progresses, and more employers accept NVDA and Narrator pushes further into the scene, that's what will end up being offered.

That being said, many larger companies that already have experience hiring employees who are blind or visually-impaired have volume licensing arrangements in place with Freedom Scientific.  So it absolutely makes sense to inquire about having JAWS, Fusion, or ZoomText (though I realize JAWS is what's wanted in this case) if that's what you prefer.  But if they say, "No, we expect you to use {insert other screen reader here}," that's perfectly within the bounds of the law.  In the immortal lyrics of the Rolling Stones, which apply here, "You can't always get what you want, but you get what you need."
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
moderated Re: likign on facebook

Justin Williams
 

Okay,

Thanks,

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chantal Ferreira
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: likign on facebook

Good afternoon Justin

I think you would probably have to go to the page and like it there.

Hope this helps.

Chantal

On 7/23/20, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:
When you get an e-mail message asking you to like a page, is it enough
for you to just use insert f7 for the links list, and like it?



Or, do you have to go onto the page and click the like button?



I did both.



Justin









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Kind regards

Chantal
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Justin Williams
 

Yes, approach them through a written even letter if you want to make it more formal.

 

Or, just call them and tell them.

It is your write under the AdA.

 

And besides, if you don't use JAwS, how will you get the job done?

 

Justin

 

              

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

Also, let’s not push our rights back into the dark ages.  What if you required a refreshable Braille Display.  Would you fork over $5,000 and purchase your own?  We have every right to have the equipment to perform our jobs!  We have fought long and hard for this right, don’t shove it out the door.  If you purchase your own license of JAWS you set a precedent for every single person with a disability that this company hires in the future.

Jim Weiss
National Federation of the Blind of Ohio - Board of Directors
Cuyahoga County Chapter - President



 

 

 

The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.



On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:08 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:

 

That is an excellent point. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

Several people have suggested avoiding paying for a Professional copy of JAWS and use a home use license.  The home use license is for just that, not for work.  Don’t forget that JAWS reaches out to the license server every time it is started.  You don’t know what type of information is being sent to the license server.  By using JAWS home annual license for work purposes is strictly forbidden and you take the chance of losing your license.  You may take your personal laptop to the office and use it for non-work related tasks, but if you are performing a job and using JAWS it really needs to be the Professional license.

Jim Weiss

 

 

“Failure is simply an opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.” | Henry Ford




On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:54 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io<REALMAN02@...> wrote:

 

Here’s how I would approach my employer.

Tell them you’re thrilled to be working for them and you want to hit the ground running as far as being productive. In order to do this, you need to have JAWS, a “screen reader” (you may have to explain what that means) on the work laptop you’ll be using. 

If you are going to use your own personal copy of JAWS, tell them that and say you would like to install your own copy of JAWS on the computer (that means they won’t have to pay for a copy of JAWS). Emphasize that, if u’r eusing your own personal copy, they won’t have to pay anything.  If you want them to buy the program, you’ll need to tell them that and stress that it’s a reasonable accommodation you need in order to do the job. You don’t necessarily need to use ADA specifically. 

I urge you to get in touch with them immediately. 

Stress the positive nature of you being ready and eager to start  working; all you need is this one small reasonable accommodation, etc etc. 

Hope this helps. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.

 

On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.

I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message ----- 

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM

Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

Hi.

 

I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.

 

First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.

 

My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?

 

I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly

 

 
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Jim Weiss
 

Also, let’s not push our rights back into the dark ages.  What if you required a refreshable Braille Display.  Would you fork over $5,000 and purchase your own?  We have every right to have the equipment to perform our jobs!  We have fought long and hard for this right, don’t shove it out the door.  If you purchase your own license of JAWS you set a precedent for every single person with a disability that this company hires in the future.
Jim Weiss
National Federation of the Blind of Ohio - Board of Directors
Cuyahoga County Chapter - President







The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation’s blind. Every day we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.


On Jul 23, 2020, at 9:08 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:

That is an excellent point. 
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
 
Several people have suggested avoiding paying for a Professional copy of JAWS and use a home use license.  The home use license is for just that, not for work.  Don’t forget that JAWS reaches out to the license server every time it is started.  You don’t know what type of information is being sent to the license server.  By using JAWS home annual license for work purposes is strictly forbidden and you take the chance of losing your license.  You may take your personal laptop to the office and use it for non-work related tasks, but if you are performing a job and using JAWS it really needs to be the Professional license.
Jim Weiss

 

 

“Failure is simply an opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.” | Henry Ford



On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:54 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io<REALMAN02@...> wrote:
 
Here’s how I would approach my employer.
Tell them you’re thrilled to be working for them and you want to hit the ground running as far as being productive. In order to do this, you need to have JAWS, a “screen reader” (you may have to explain what that means) on the work laptop you’ll be using. 
If you are going to use your own personal copy of JAWS, tell them that and say you would like to install your own copy of JAWS on the computer (that means they won’t have to pay for a copy of JAWS). Emphasize that, if u’r eusing your own personal copy, they won’t have to pay anything.  If you want them to buy the program, you’ll need to tell them that and stress that it’s a reasonable accommodation you need in order to do the job. You don’t necessarily need to use ADA specifically. 
I urge you to get in touch with them immediately. 
Stress the positive nature of you being ready and eager to start  working; all you need is this one small reasonable accommodation, etc etc. 
Hope this helps. 
 
 
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
 
I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.
 
On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.
I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM
Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
 
Hi.
 
I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.
 
First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.
 
My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?
 
I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly
 
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

JOHN RIEHL
 

That is an excellent point.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

Several people have suggested avoiding paying for a Professional copy of JAWS and use a home use license.  The home use license is for just that, not for work.  Don’t forget that JAWS reaches out to the license server every time it is started.  You don’t know what type of information is being sent to the license server.  By using JAWS home annual license for work purposes is strictly forbidden and you take the chance of losing your license.  You may take your personal laptop to the office and use it for non-work related tasks, but if you are performing a job and using JAWS it really needs to be the Professional license.

Jim Weiss

 

 

“Failure is simply an opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.” | Henry Ford



On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:54 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:

 

Here’s how I would approach my employer.

Tell them you’re thrilled to be working for them and you want to hit the ground running as far as being productive. In order to do this, you need to have JAWS, a “screen reader” (you may have to explain what that means) on the work laptop you’ll be using. 

If you are going to use your own personal copy of JAWS, tell them that and say you would like to install your own copy of JAWS on the computer (that means they won’t have to pay for a copy of JAWS). Emphasize that, if u’r eusing your own personal copy, they won’t have to pay anything.  If you want them to buy the program, you’ll need to tell them that and stress that it’s a reasonable accommodation you need in order to do the job. You don’t necessarily need to use ADA specifically. 

I urge you to get in touch with them immediately. 

Stress the positive nature of you being ready and eager to start  working; all you need is this one small reasonable accommodation, etc etc. 

Hope this helps. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.

 

On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.

I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message ----- 

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM

Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

Hi.

 

I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.

 

First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.

 

My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?

 

I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly

 
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Jim Weiss
 

Several people have suggested avoiding paying for a Professional copy of JAWS and use a home use license.  The home use license is for just that, not for work.  Don’t forget that JAWS reaches out to the license server every time it is started.  You don’t know what type of information is being sent to the license server.  By using JAWS home annual license for work purposes is strictly forbidden and you take the chance of losing your license.  You may take your personal laptop to the office and use it for non-work related tasks, but if you are performing a job and using JAWS it really needs to be the Professional license.
Jim Weiss



“Failure is simply an opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently.” | Henry Ford


On Jul 23, 2020, at 8:54 AM, JOHN RIEHL via groups.io <REALMAN02@...> wrote:

Here’s how I would approach my employer.
Tell them you’re thrilled to be working for them and you want to hit the ground running as far as being productive. In order to do this, you need to have JAWS, a “screen reader” (you may have to explain what that means) on the work laptop you’ll be using. 
If you are going to use your own personal copy of JAWS, tell them that and say you would like to install your own copy of JAWS on the computer (that means they won’t have to pay for a copy of JAWS). Emphasize that, if u’r eusing your own personal copy, they won’t have to pay anything.  If you want them to buy the program, you’ll need to tell them that and stress that it’s a reasonable accommodation you need in order to do the job. You don’t necessarily need to use ADA specifically. 
I urge you to get in touch with them immediately. 
Stress the positive nature of you being ready and eager to start  working; all you need is this one small reasonable accommodation, etc etc. 
Hope this helps. 
 
 
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
 

I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.

 

On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.
I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM
Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
 
Hi.
 
I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.
 
First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.
 
My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?
 
I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

JOHN RIEHL
 

Here’s how I would approach my employer.

Tell them you’re thrilled to be working for them and you want to hit the ground running as far as being productive. In order to do this, you need to have JAWS, a “screen reader” (you may have to explain what that means) on the work laptop you’ll be using.

If you are going to use your own personal copy of JAWS, tell them that and say you would like to install your own copy of JAWS on the computer (that means they won’t have to pay for a copy of JAWS). Emphasize that, if u’r eusing your own personal copy, they won’t have to pay anything.  If you want them to buy the program, you’ll need to tell them that and stress that it’s a reasonable accommodation you need in order to do the job. You don’t necessarily need to use ADA specifically.

I urge you to get in touch with them immediately.

Stress the positive nature of you being ready and eager to start  working; all you need is this one small reasonable accommodation, etc etc.

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.

 

On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.

I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM

Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

 

Hi.

 

I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.

 

First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.

 

My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?

 

I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly
moderated Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Steve Matzura
 

I'd ask them to install JAWS, but leave4 the licensing and configuring to you, unless they're providing the license, in which case, let them license it and then hand it over to you for the rest.


On 7/22/2020 10:58 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
They probably have a tech person who takes care of their computers.
I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give them the Jaws key to put onto it.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM
Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?

Hi.

 

I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job.  For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.

 

First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.

 

My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?

 

I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning.  The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly