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Re: saved documents in word
Justin Williams
None of that worked.
I tried to recover versions, but it said no other versions exist. .
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 11:38 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: saved documents in word
I’m guessing that you tried the undo command with control Z. Other than that, may be close Microsoft word and if it asks to save, say no. And then you can re-open it.
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Annabelle Susan Morison
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They are Cakewalk Project files.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders? That sounds like a CakeWalk file type, which is the mother company of
Sonar.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the
bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break
the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending
it.)" - Edward
Herbert On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
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NFB Lab 4
I’m guessing that you tried the undo command with control Z. Other than that, may be close Microsoft word and if it asks to save, say no. And then you can re-open it.
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On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:
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saved documents in word
Justin Williams
All my text in a word document disappeared. As there anyway to recover the previous saved version?
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Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
Richard Turner
Well, Do they know you are blind?
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Hopefully.
You could point out that you need the Jaws screen reader is necessary to do your job.
You will need someone with administrator rights to install it.
The good news is if you want to save them having to buy Jaws, you should be able to install it under your license.
Then, arrange to uninstall it whenever you leave the job down the road.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Jul 22, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:
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Re: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
Glenn / Lenny
They probably have a tech person who takes care of
their computers.
I would ask them to install Jaws for you and give
them the Jaws key to put onto it.
Glenn
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From: Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:51 PM
Subject: How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on
a PC they're giving me for my job? Hi.
I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job. For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.
First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.
My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?
I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning. The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.
Thanks in advance.
Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly
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How do I approach an employer regarding installing JAWS on a PC they're giving me for my job?
Kevin Minor
Hi.
I’ve just been hired as a customer service representative, a work from home job. For my work, I’ll be using a PC that they’re providing. I’d try to convince them to allow me to use my laptop, but I have to use their headset to do my job, and I suspect it wouldn’t work on my system. I think it uses Windows 10, but I don’t know the version. With all this in mind, I’m hoping to install JAWS on it. I do, however, have some questions to ask.
First, how do I approach them regarding installing JAWS on the PC? I don’t know much about Narrator, and I do know more about JAWS, so that would make me more productive from the start. I would rather not bring up the A.D.A. unless I have to.
My other concern is installing JAWS itself. Since this PC is specifically for work, I suspect they have limited what can be installed on it. What do I need to tell them I need to install it?
I get this PC on Friday, and my training begins on Monday morning. The good news is I have all weekend to sort this out. The bad news is I think there won’t be people who can help me that work there over the weekend. This is why I’m writing this note tonight. I have all day tomorrow to get advice and ideas.
Thanks in advance.
Kevin, my girlfriend Valerie, and furry Jilly
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Glenn / Lenny
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I'm sure that programs that do that look for
similar files and can group them accordingly, perhaps using the fragment time to
know which is which.
Glenn
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From: Annabelle
Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To
Screenreaders? I also have .cwp files that are fragmented. These are the ones
I've recovered with ICare Data Recovery Pro, which categorized them as "Lost
Files". I wonder if any of those programs can merge 46 fragments of a .cwp file
together. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders? It seems odd to have both weav and midi files in the same project, though
the midi files might be the same music but the music notation files for the same
passage as one before it?
I never dealt with Sonar enough to know.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the
bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break
the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending
it.)" - Edward
Herbert On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Richard Turner
I am rather sure GoldWave won't know what a CWP file is.
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That sounds like a CakeWalk file type, which is the mother company of Sonar.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Annabelle Susan Morison
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I also have .cwp files that are fragmented. These are the ones
I've recovered with ICare Data Recovery Pro, which categorized them as "Lost
Files". I wonder if any of those programs can merge 46 fragments of a .cwp file
together.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders? It seems odd to have both weav and midi files in the same project, though
the midi files might be the same music but the music notation files for the same
passage as one before it?
I never dealt with Sonar enough to know.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the
bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break
the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending
it.)" - Edward
Herbert On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Richard Turner
I do not think Goldwave handles midi files, but I'm not sure.
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It seems odd to have both weav and midi files in the same project, though the midi files might be the same music but the music notation files for the same passage as one before it?
I never dealt with Sonar enough to know.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Jul 22, 2020, at 3:54 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
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Re: restoring settings
Mike B
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Here you go:
How to Import Your Exported settings
list of 6 items
1. Launch your JAWS context menu by pressing the JAWS key and J on your laptop. 2. Use the arrow keys and find utilities.
3. Find and click on the Import/Export settings
menu
4. Click on the Import Settings…
5. A dialogue will appear which says “a backup
file”.
6. Press next
list end Thabo
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
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From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:28 PM
Subject: restoring settings along with the settings to get to work again. I have a backup file of my settings but don't know how to use it to restore my settings. Can anyone give me step by step instructions to do this? Thanks
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restoring settings
Don H
So for some reason my Jaws 2020 got corrupted and I had to uninstall it along with the settings to get to work again. I have a backup file of my settings but don't know how to use it to restore my settings. Can anyone give me step by step instructions to do this?
Thanks
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Annabelle Susan Morison
I think this ended up as a duplicate
email.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders? Well, are they in an odd format, or standard mp3 or .wav or windows media, etc.? If so, GoldWave has a nice file merge feature that is completely accessible. You would use the Tools menu and select File Merge and then add the folder and if they are in order already, it can put them into one file for you. There is a fully functional demo, or if you decide to use it on an ongoing basis it is only $50, or so.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Hi, it's Annabelle. I've been thinking about this for a while, and I wonder, are any of these programs accessible to screenreaders like JAWS? These are freewares that are used for splitting and merging files. The reason why I ask this is because I have these files I'm trying to recover, specifically Sonar projects that I didn't get the chance to back up, and what I notice is that each big file has been divided into 46 fragments, all sequentially numbered. This happened on a hard drive that my friend, Markus and I formatted quite by accident in 2015, the first time when we were restoring my machine back to working order. I've used ICare Data Recovery Pro, which I purchased for $71.99 from http://www.icare-recovery.com, and that is where I discovered these files and folders I'm trying to recover are in 46 fragments. Or should I leave this recovery job to Drivesavers? https://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/file-splitters.shtml
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Annabelle Susan Morison
Some are .wav, some are .mid.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders? Well, are they in an odd format, or standard mp3 or .wav or windows media, etc.? If so, GoldWave has a nice file merge feature that is completely accessible. You would use the Tools menu and select File Merge and then add the folder and if they are in order already, it can put them into one file for you. There is a fully functional demo, or if you decide to use it on an ongoing basis it is only $50, or so.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Hi, it's Annabelle. I've been thinking about this for a while, and I wonder, are any of these programs accessible to screenreaders like JAWS? These are freewares that are used for splitting and merging files. The reason why I ask this is because I have these files I'm trying to recover, specifically Sonar projects that I didn't get the chance to back up, and what I notice is that each big file has been divided into 46 fragments, all sequentially numbered. This happened on a hard drive that my friend, Markus and I formatted quite by accident in 2015, the first time when we were restoring my machine back to working order. I've used ICare Data Recovery Pro, which I purchased for $71.99 from http://www.icare-recovery.com, and that is where I discovered these files and folders I'm trying to recover are in 46 fragments. Or should I leave this recovery job to Drivesavers? https://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/file-splitters.shtml
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Re: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Richard Turner
Well, are they in an odd format, or standard mp3 or .wav or windows media, etc.? If so, GoldWave has a nice file merge feature that is completely accessible. You would use the Tools menu and select File Merge and then add the folder and if they are in order already, it can put them into one file for you. There is a fully functional demo, or if you decide to use it on an ongoing basis it is only $50, or so.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Are Any Of These Accessible To Screenreaders?
Hi, it's Annabelle. I've been thinking about this for a while, and I wonder, are any of these programs accessible to screenreaders like JAWS? These are freewares that are used for splitting and merging files. The reason why I ask this is because I have these files I'm trying to recover, specifically Sonar projects that I didn't get the chance to back up, and what I notice is that each big file has been divided into 46 fragments, all sequentially numbered. This happened on a hard drive that my friend, Markus and I formatted quite by accident in 2015, the first time when we were restoring my machine back to working order. I've used ICare Data Recovery Pro, which I purchased for $71.99 from http://www.icare-recovery.com, and that is where I discovered these files and folders I'm trying to recover are in 46 fragments. Or should I leave this recovery job to Drivesavers? https://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/file-splitters.shtml
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Re: Identifying emojis with braille displays?
JM Casey
Which makes sense. Can you imagine trying to represent emojis with actual braille symbols? We already have enough obscurity with special typefaces and other things -- iE, "bold", "italics" and such in braille are really just special "brackets" and the print terms themselves are meaningless in braille, but we want to show them anyway (and we should) -- but go too far down that slope and you have endless layers of representation that are just obfuscative and confusing, especailly for beginners.
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Whether emojjis are "spokeN" or not really depends on a lot of different factors -- chiefly the screen-reader being used, but also the software used to isplay those emojis in the first place. Imo emojis are a bit of a dead end, despite what goofy stuff like 'The Emoji Story" might try to tell you.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore Sent: July 22, 2020 4:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Identifying emojis with braille displays? I am a literary braille transcribing student through the NFB. personal experience and the manual both confirm the answer to your question is no. typically anything of that sort must be identified and described in a transcribers special symbols note. hope this helps. Shalom, Bill Tessore On Jul 22, 2020, at 12:57 PM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:
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JAWS2020 Feature for Stopping Jaws from Cutting Off Speech, FSCast 186
Mike B
Hi All,
Thought some of you might be interested in this
FSCast.
Note: The part of the FSCast that pertains only to this
Jaws feature is at the bottom, below the 2 links.
New post on Freedom Scientific Blog
FSCast 186, Blindness consultant Joe Strechay, a new Freedom
Scientific Training podcast, and a demo of the JAWS feature to prevent speech
cut off
by FSCast On FSCast 186, we meet blindness consultant and TV producer
Joe Strechay who helps ensure that blind people are accurately portrayed
in media. There’s
news about the new Freedom Scientific training podcast, and Jonathan Mosen drops in with a demo of the new JAWS feature to prevent speech cut off with Bluetooth headphones and some sound cards. Click this link to listen:
To read the full transcript click the link below:
Jaws feature part of the transcript:
Over the last couple of months we’ve been talking
about the new JAWS feature that prevents speech from being cut off when
listening using Bluetooth headphones
or listening on certain laptops. Fortunately, I don’t have the problem. So it’s been really hard for me to demonstrate it. But turns out that longtime FSCast host Jonathan Mosen does. He has an HP Spectre Folio that shows off this problem really easily. Jonathan was kind enough to send us an excerpt from his Mosen at Large podcast, where he shows off the new JAWS feature at work. So Jonathan, it’s all yours. Excerpt from Jonathan Mosen’s Mosen at Large podcast JONATHAN MOSEN: Let me demonstrate the
problem so you can hear what this is like by just running JAWS without this new
enhancement that I want to show
you enabled. So I’m going to press a shortcut key that I have assigned to JAWS. JAWS VOICE: Ows professional. Desktop. Folder view. List view. Not selected. Recycle bin. One of 33. JONATHAN: There you go. You can actually hear it right away. It sort of said “ows Professional” because I’ve been sitting here with my laptop making no sound, and it just woke up. Even this pause is long enough for me to demonstrate the problem. If I check the window title, “sktop One,” and you can hear that it missed the beginning of “desktop.” So it sort of said “sktop One.” I’m going to run Microsoft Word. JAWS VOICE: tana. JONATHAN: You can really hear it. My soundcard driver has actually recently gotten worse at this issue, and it’s now hibernating very quickly. I have my keyboard echo turned off, which probably exacerbates the problem. But I just don’t need my keys echoing back to me. I’m going to type “This is a test” and now read the current line. JAWS VOICE: “Is a test.” JONATHAN: Right? So you missed the first word entirely there. JAWS VOICE: “Is a test.” JONATHAN: Is a test. If I do it quickly enough, if I read the same line twice quickly... JAWS VOICE: “T H I S. This is a test.” JONATHAN: So as long as I’m quick enough, and I keep the soundcard alive, I can hear what I’m doing. Now, of course if you’re navigating word by word, this is a real issue. I’ll go to the top of the file and now move slightly slowly, word by word. JAWS VOICE: [Indiscernible small portions of each word “this is a test”] . JONATHAN: It’s really difficult to hear; isn’t it. How do we fix this? It’s very easy with the latest build of JAWS to address this. I’m going to go into the Settings Center. And you can do that by pressing the JAWS KEY with F2 to get to the list of managers, if you like. But JAWS seasoned users, or those who just are shortcut ninjas will know that you can go into the Settings Center by pressing the JAWS KEY with the number 6 on your number row. JAWS VOICE: JAWS Setting Center dialog. Search box edit. CTRL+T. JONATHAN: The first thing we need to do is load the default configuration because this setting applies across the board to JAWS. To do that, I’ll press CTRL+SHIFT+D for default. JAWS VOICE: JAWS Setting Center default applications. JONATHAN: We’re now in an edit field where we can search for JAWS settings. You can fossick around the tree view here to your heart’s content, and you’ll find just how configurable JAWS is. But I’m going to type the word “cut,” C U T. That’ll be enough. And I’ll press the TAB key. JAWS VOICE: Search results list box. Avoid speech cutoff when using Bluetooth headphones or some soundcards, not checked. JONATHAN: And there’s an option here called “Avoid speech cutoff.” And I’m going to press TAB, which will get me into the Help for this feature, and do a JAWS Say All to hear the full description. JAWS VOICE: Bluetooth headphones and speakers shut down after a while of not receiving sound to conserve battery. If this checkbox is selected, JAWS will keep them awake by constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. Note that the battery of your headphone/speakers could drain faster if you turn this on. This checkbox is cleared by default. JONATHAN: I must say I have not found anything substantial in the way of battery drain by enabling this feature. The HP Spectre Folio laptop that I have has phenomenal battery life. I mean, depending on what I’m doing, it can be anything from five or six hours if I’m doing really aggressive tasks like audio editing, all the way through to 12, 13, 14 hours or more if I’m just doing a bit of basic word processing. I’ll SHIFT+TAB. JAWS VOICE: Search results list box. Avoid speech cutoff when using Bluetooth headphones and some soundcards, not checked. JONATHAN: And I’ll check this box. And now I’m going to exit Settings Center by pressing ALT+F4. JAWS VOICE: JAWS Settings Center dialog. You have made changes to default application settings. Do you want to save them? Yes button, Alt+y. JONATHAN: Yes, I do. I’ll press ENTER to accept. JAWS VOICE: Document, one word, edit. JONATHAN: Miraculously, now everything has cleared up. Night and day, mate. Night and day. So if I press the JAWS KEY with T to read the window title... JAWS VOICE: Document, one word, print. JONATHAN: And it’s fine. JAWS VOICE: Document, one word, print. JONATHAN: I read a Say line. JAWS VOICE: This is a test. JONATHAN: And everything is working fine. So it’s a very simple thing. It’s just a little checkbox, but it makes the world of difference to people like me who are using particular Realtek sound drivers. One thing to note: There is a tradeoff with this. Because JAWS is sending sound to the soundcard at all times – it’s essentially just sending silence to keep it awake – that means that the soundcard is always on, so audio ducking is affected. You will unfortunately have to make a choice between whether JAWS ducks the audio or whether this feature is on. By “ducking” audio I mean that you can have JAWS now slightly turn down what you’re listening to. If you have music on in the background while you’re working, JAWS will turn that down a little so that you can better hear your speech. You can’t have that and this feature enabled at the same time. For me, the user experience has improved so much by enabling this checkbox that I’m glad to forsake the possibility of audio ducking.
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Re: Identifying emojis with braille displays?
Bill Tessore
I am a literary braille transcribing student through the NFB. personal experience and the manual both confirm the answer to your question is no. typically anything of that sort must be identified and described in a transcribers special symbols note. hope this helps.
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Shalom, Bill Tessore
On Jul 22, 2020, at 12:57 PM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:
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bluetooth keyboard question
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
Hello. Does there exist a Bluetooth keyboard with function keys separated in groups of four, a numeric keypad and a context menu key? In other words, with the functionality and appearance of a good old standard Windows keyboard?
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