Date   

moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Richard Turner
 

I think Mike was referring to the labeled graphics, but poking around in the various graphics settings, have you double checked the minimum and maximum graphics sizes to make sure what you are trying to grab are not outside of those parameters?

It is a setting called Graphic recognition dimensions.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

What setting are yu referring to?

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 14:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Change the setting just to see if it helps.  Nothing ventured....


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Ye, that might work, if only I could actually label the graphic.

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Have you tried settings your graphics settings to, Labeled graphics, in either quick settings, Insert + V, or in the application settings center, just to see if this would read the graphics better?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:16 AM

Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

 

What setting are yu referring to?

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 14:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Change the setting just to see if it helps.  Nothing ventured....


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Ye, that might work, if only I could actually label the graphic.

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Have you tried settings your graphics settings to, Labeled graphics, in either quick settings, Insert + V, or in the application settings center, just to see if this would read the graphics better?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:16 AM

Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Mike B
 

Change the setting just to see if it helps.  Nothing ventured....

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Ye, that might work, if only I could actually label the graphic.

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Have you tried settings your graphics settings to, Labeled graphics, in either quick settings, Insert + V, or in the application settings center, just to see if this would read the graphics better?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:16 AM

Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

Chris
 

Remove the PIN or fingerprint or face sign in options

 

Then it should be possible to to use the netplwiz user dialog options to automatically sign in again

From: Dave Durber
Sent: 22 July 2020 13:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

 

Hello Chris:

 

The stupid thing is, if you upgrade to 20-04 in Windows 10 the "users must enter a username and password to use this computer", is still available in the N E T P L W I Z applet.

 

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:40 PM

Subject: Re: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

 

Apparently you have to turn off windows hello for this option to be available once again

 

https://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-removes-user-autologin-in-windows-10-version-2004/

 

 

 

 

From: Dave Durber
Sent: 22 July 2020 12:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

 

Hello Everyone:

 

Uptoo, and including Windows 10, 19-09, to disable the log on screen, the simplest way to do that, was to open the dialogue window in the N E T P L W I Z (without the spaces), applet, and uncheck the check box on the option which says: "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. You would enter the password in the 2 following fields, click on the Apply button to accept the change, then click on the OK button, to close the dialog window. After that, whenever you started the computer or, restarted the computer, the computer would bypass the log on screen, and go straight to the desktop.

 

I have just performed a fresh installation of Windows 10, using the 20-04 version. in the N E T P L W I Z applet, the option, "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer", is no longer there. Does anyone on this list, know of another way to disable the log on screen. If they do, will you please give step-by-step instructions.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Dave Durber

 

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Patrick Murphy
 

Ye, that might work, if only I could actually label the graphic.

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Have you tried settings your graphics settings to, Labeled graphics, in either quick settings, Insert + V, or in the application settings center, just to see if this would read the graphics better?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:16 AM

Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Patrick Murphy
 

I tried routing the pc to jaws cursor and using left click.

Didn’t work.

I have read that the latest version of firefox is unstable.

Don’t want to mess up the computer just for custom label.

 

Cheers,

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Attempt it with the new firefox.

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Ye, tried both of these.

I don’t have a Braille display.

 

Cheers,

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Maybe  if you have a braille display, you can try that.

 

Try another version of JAWs, or turn off the virtual cursor.

 

I'll bet you that you have tried these options already, but that is where I would start.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Mike B
 

Have you tried settings your graphics settings to, Labeled graphics, in either quick settings, Insert + V, or in the application settings center, just to see if this would read the graphics better?

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

Dave Durber
 


Hello Chris:
 
The stupid thing is, if you upgrade to 20-04 in Windows 10 the "users must enter a username and password to use this computer", is still available in the N E T P L W I Z applet.
 
Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

Apparently you have to turn off windows hello for this option to be available once again

 

https://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-removes-user-autologin-in-windows-10-version-2004/

 

 

 

 

From: Dave Durber
Sent: 22 July 2020 12:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

 

Hello Everyone:

 

Uptoo, and including Windows 10, 19-09, to disable the log on screen, the simplest way to do that, was to open the dialogue window in the N E T P L W I Z (without the spaces), applet, and uncheck the check box on the option which says: "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. You would enter the password in the 2 following fields, click on the Apply button to accept the change, then click on the OK button, to close the dialog window. After that, whenever you started the computer or, restarted the computer, the computer would bypass the log on screen, and go straight to the desktop.

 

I have just performed a fresh installation of Windows 10, using the 20-04 version. in the N E T P L W I Z applet, the option, "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer", is no longer there. Does anyone on this list, know of another way to disable the log on screen. If they do, will you please give step-by-step instructions.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Dave Durber

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Justin Williams
 

Attempt it with the new firefox.

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Ye, tried both of these.

I don’t have a Braille display.

 

Cheers,

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Maybe  if you have a braille display, you can try that.

 

Try another version of JAWs, or turn off the virtual cursor.

 

I'll bet you that you have tried these options already, but that is where I would start.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Justin Williams
 

You might can try using just the JAWS cursor and see what you get.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Patrick Murphy
 

Ye, tried both of these.

I don’t have a Braille display.

 

Cheers,

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 13:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Maybe  if you have a braille display, you can try that.

 

Try another version of JAWs, or turn off the virtual cursor.

 

I'll bet you that you have tried these options already, but that is where I would start.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Justin Williams
 

Maybe  if you have a braille display, you can try that.

 

Try another version of JAWs, or turn off the virtual cursor.

 

I'll bet you that you have tried these options already, but that is where I would start.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 6:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi Dave,

 

I have a windows 10 del computer. Granted, it is quite old, and doesn’t have the ability to use finger printing face recognition etc.

However, there is only one user account on this machine, and it doesn’t have a password or pin.

When I power it up, it just goes straight to the desktop.

 

Don’t know if this will help you.

 

Cheers,

 

pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday 22 July 2020 12:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

 

Hello Everyone:

 

Uptoo, and including Windows 10, 19-09, to disable the log on screen, the simplest way to do that, was to open the dialogue window in the N E T P L W I Z (without the spaces), applet, and uncheck the check box on the option which says: "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. You would enter the password in the 2 following fields, click on the Apply button to accept the change, then click on the OK button, to close the dialog window. After that, whenever you started the computer or, restarted the computer, the computer would bypass the log on screen, and go straight to the desktop.

 

I have just performed a fresh installation of Windows 10, using the 20-04 version. in the N E T P L W I Z applet, the option, "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer", is no longer there. Does anyone on this list, know of another way to disable the log on screen. If they do, will you please give step-by-step instructions.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Dave Durber


moderated Re: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

Chris
 

Apparently you have to turn off windows hello for this option to be available once again

 

https://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-removes-user-autologin-in-windows-10-version-2004/

 

 

 

 

From: Dave Durber
Sent: 22 July 2020 12:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

 

Hello Everyone:

 

Uptoo, and including Windows 10, 19-09, to disable the log on screen, the simplest way to do that, was to open the dialogue window in the N E T P L W I Z (without the spaces), applet, and uncheck the check box on the option which says: "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. You would enter the password in the 2 following fields, click on the Apply button to accept the change, then click on the OK button, to close the dialog window. After that, whenever you started the computer or, restarted the computer, the computer would bypass the log on screen, and go straight to the desktop.

 

I have just performed a fresh installation of Windows 10, using the 20-04 version. in the N E T P L W I Z applet, the option, "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer", is no longer there. Does anyone on this list, know of another way to disable the log on screen. If they do, will you please give step-by-step instructions.

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Dave Durber

 


moderated Bypassing the log on screen in Windows 10 20-04

Dave Durber
 

Hello Everyone:
 
Uptoo, and including Windows 10, 19-09, to disable the log on screen, the simplest way to do that, was to open the dialogue window in the N E T P L W I Z (without the spaces), applet, and uncheck the check box on the option which says: "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer. You would enter the password in the 2 following fields, click on the Apply button to accept the change, then click on the OK button, to close the dialog window. After that, whenever you started the computer or, restarted the computer, the computer would bypass the log on screen, and go straight to the desktop.
 
I have just performed a fresh installation of Windows 10, using the 20-04 version. in the N E T P L W I Z applet, the option, "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer", is no longer there. Does anyone on this list, know of another way to disable the log on screen. If they do, will you please give step-by-step instructions.
 
Thank you in anticipation.
 
Dave Durber


moderated Re: assigning custom label with jaws.

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

 

I have tried this with both jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

My windows 10 is also totally up to date, as just checked this morning.

I have a buffalo link station that i am using for storage.

When you try to shut it down, or remove an external usb disk, a confirmation number is asked for.

There are four numbers in total that you have to enter, e.g. 1234.

The numbers present themselves on the screen as graphics.

They are read by jaws as:

“graphic number_1” “graphic_number2” “graphic_number3” and “graphic_number4”.

Obviously, these are pictures. This has been confirmed by my son.

The number sequence changes, it is not always the same number, but given that, so does the picture, as it has a different number.

In the old internet explorer, i was able to assign a custom label to these numbers.

Once my son helped me to go through each number from 0 to 9, the graphics were read out correctly, no matter what sequence they appeared in.

Now, with google chrome, ms edge and brave, there does not seem to be any way to set a custom label.

Jaws is telling me that this cannot be done.

It could be that the pictures are not clickable or something like that.

Can you only create a custom label for an element on a web page that is actionable?

If so, why would internet explorer allow this, and no chrome based browser will?

From what i have read, jaws should be able to create a custom label for anything whether it is actionable or not.

Surely, this is the point of these. If there is a graphic on a web site that you just want to know what it is, a custom label should be creatable.

Am i wrong?

If so, can anyone provide an idea as to how to overcome this?

At the moment, if i want to do anything with my link station, i have to wait until someone who can see is there.

Please do not tell me to get another nas, this is not an option.

 

Kind regards,

 

pat

 


moderated Re: facebook and browsers

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

    Hi when you want to use google with facebook.

Give this site a tryy


mbasic.facebook.com


That is the one I use and it works well for me.

On 7/21/2020 9:50 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

It is me, or does Internet explorer work better than Chrome, even on the mobile site?

 

I have not tested firefox yet.

 

I am using JAWS 2019.

 

Are there any other better working browsers?

 

Isn't there a way to get chrome to work better on facebook?

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

 

 

-- 

Casey


moderated Re: filling out PDFs

Adrian Spratt
 

Tom, I agree with Justin. New to me also. Thanks for posting this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: filling out PDFs

Madison:

If you have a reasonably current version of Microsoft Word, press control
F12 to get into the PDF conversion option.

Then, locate the PDF file you want to convert into a Word document.

Once you've highlighted that document, hit enter, and you will get a message that Microsoft Word will convert the file for you.

Hit ok on this, and the conversion should be done.

You will then be placed into the converted file, which should be an editable Microsoft Word document. Of course, once you have the converted document, you can save where needed.

I've had fairly good results with this, although it does depend on how the original file was prepared before it was converted to a PDF document.

I hope this helps.

Tom Behler
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 4:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: filling out PDFs

Hi all,
I think someone posted the instructions for this a few weeks ago, but I deleted the email by accident. I don't mind reading PDFs in Adobe, but filling them out doesn't work. Can someone please tell me how to change this one PDF into a Word document so that I can fill it in? I tried selecting it and then copying and pasting it into a Word document but that didn't work. I know I could put it into Notepad, but I don't know how to use Notepad. I want to be able to fill it in myself, I don't want to print it out and have someone else fill it in for me.
Thanks
Madison


moderated facebook and browsers

Justin Williams
 

It is me, or does Internet explorer work better than Chrome, even on the mobile site?

 

I have not tested firefox yet.

 

I am using JAWS 2019.

 

Are there any other better working browsers?

 

Isn't there a way to get chrome to work better on facebook?

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: What happened to my desktop?

Bill White
 

Hi, Shirley. There are two settings that you can change to make sure that, in the future, even if Tablet Mode does get turned on, your desktop and task bar won't be hidden.

 

1. Open Settings with Windows key plus I.

2. TAB to the list of Settings categories, and press ENTER on System.

3. Arrow down to Tablet Mode, and press ENTER.

4. Under Tablet Mode, make sure, Hide app icons on the taskbar in tablet mode Button is Off

5. Also under Tablet Mode, make sure, Automatically hide the taskbar in tablet mode Button is Off.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What happened to my desktop?

 

Sieghard ,

 

Thank you! Thank you! I must have done that, but I sure don’t know how. Wow!

 

This list is great when guys like you are willing to respond. I thank everyone who replied…and I truly thank you for coming up with the idea.

 

A very happy Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 2:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What happened to my desktop?

 

Did you somehow turn on Tablet Mode?

Press Windows Key + A and tab until you hear Tablet Mode, if it is checked press the spacebar to uncheck it.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 2:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What happened to my desktop?

 

Hi Mike,

 

Yes, I tried rebooting. I also pressed windows key plus D and also the alt M and even Control M. Nothing happens. I ask Curtana for mail is the way I find it now. I no longer have the normal list. I hope I didn’t get a virus or something.

 

No, I didn’t finish the letter before the Desktop vanished, but I asked Curtana for mail and finished (rewrote) the important email letter. What the letter had to do with everything is that I was rushing to get it sent out before today—long story. In my hurry, I may have pressed the wrong keys somewhere—or been keying too fast--that darn letter took up a lot of my time and brain power. By the time I sent out my plea for help last night, I was exhausted. (smile).

My next plan is to call Microsoft Disability number. Thought I’d pick your brains on the list first.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What happened to my desktop?

 

Did you try rebooting?

 

Did you try pressing, Windows key + D, or M, to take you to the desktop?

 

Did you press, Insert + T, to read the title of the screen you're on?

 

Was your computer doing some sort of update and wanting to reboot?

 

Did you get your letter composed and saved?

 

What relation does composing a letter and not having a desktop have to do with each other?  What I mean is, as above, did you finish the letter, save it, then you couldn't find your desktop?

 

I'm not trying to be an A'Hole, but you're leaving out a lot of things that could of, might of or maybe did!

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Learn a lesson from your dog.  No matter what life brings you, kick some grass over that crap and move on!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:02 PM

Subject: What happened to my desktop?

 

My computer started acting goofy this evening, and I was in a hurry to compose an important letter so may have rushed things along too quickly. Suddenly, my desktop disappeared. I can’t find it. Any ideas? It’s not in the recycle bin. (LOL).

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Shirley Tracy