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moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Pat Seed
 

Hi Larry and All,
Like you said, Larry, before installing any new version of JAWS, I always change the shortcut of the older version to be:
(control alt 0) for JAWS 2020,
(control alt 9) if it is JAWS 2019,
(control alt 8) if it is JAWS 2018, and so on.
 
Then I install the updated JAWS, which then, can use the
(control alt j).
 
This numbering system works great for using older versions of JAWS, because it is easy to remember, should I like to use an older version for something in particular.
 
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

David,

Does she have other versions of JAWS on her PC that might be sharing that shortcut.

It has happened to me.

I had to check each version to see what the shortcut key was.

Sometimes you have to change it in older versions that might be on the computer in order for the version you are using to work properly.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

kevin meyers
 

I checjked how mine was set as it wasn't working with control alt j. It was
set to none. The only other options were control alt up or control alt down.
Is there a way to set it to control alt J?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that
it is still assigned.
1. Go to the desktop.
2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter.
3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties.
4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j.
5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an
administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the
change.
6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure
it worked.

Good luck!

At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open
JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open
NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and
she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the
problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or
something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David
moderated Re: Creating a Facebook Business Page with JAWS

Dan Longmore
 

I would recommend using the Facebook pages app to create the page. Then you can access it from your regular Facebook profile if you were attaching it to your profile. I can’t speak for jaws but Facebook pages is really accessible with Apple’s voiceover. Hopefully that means it is also accessible with other screen readers.


On Jul 15, 2020, at 3:33 AM, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@...> wrote:



Hi All

 

Does anyone know of a way to create a business page on Face Book that works with JAWS? If so, any tips or advice is much appreciated.

 

Thanks

Debbie
moderated Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

Dan Longmore
 

Yes, you are correct with pricing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

I think for a one person subscription it is around $70 per year, for up to
five it is around $100 per year.
That gives you access to all of the Microsoft Office programs that you can
download rather than use the web versions.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

You can get a small amount of space without a subscription. With a
subscription you get a terabyte of space and other family members can share
in your subscription each getting their own program copies and one terabyte
of space.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

Does OneDrive require subscription to Office 365?
At 06:54 PM 7/15/2020, you wrote:
I too, prefer using one drive over drop box. I used drop box mainly to
send files to people. Then I found out I could do the same with one
drive just by providing a link to my one drive and the item they
needed. Drop box was costing me $150 per year for 2 or 3 Tbs, far more
then what I needed, one drive gives you 1 TB of storage and is included
in office 365, which only cost $119. Per year.
moderated Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

Richard Turner
 

I think for a one person subscription it is around $70 per year, for up to five it is around $100 per year.
That gives you access to all of the Microsoft Office programs that you can download rather than use the web versions.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

You can get a small amount of space without a subscription. With a subscription you get a terabyte of space and other family members can share in your subscription each getting their own program copies and one terabyte of space.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

Does OneDrive require subscription to Office 365?
At 06:54 PM 7/15/2020, you wrote:
I too, prefer using one drive over drop box. I used drop box mainly to
send files to people. Then I found out I could do the same with one
drive just by providing a link to my one drive and the item they
needed. Drop box was costing me $150 per year for 2 or 3 Tbs, far more
then what I needed, one drive gives you 1 TB of storage and is included
in office 365, which only cost $119. Per year.
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

I’ve never had to reset the hot keys in older versions.  They have always worked for me.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi,

  The shortcut keys for JAWS are slow to make the program respond however they usually work.  With older JAWS versions the shortcut keys had to be reset after an update.

 

Dan  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned.
1. Go to the desktop.
2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter.
3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties.
4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j.
5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the change.
6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked.

Good luck!

At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David
moderated Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

Dan Longmore
 

You can get a small amount of space without a subscription. With a
subscription you get a terabyte of space and other family members can share
in your subscription each getting their own program copies and one terabyte
of space.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

Does OneDrive require subscription to Office 365?
At 06:54 PM 7/15/2020, you wrote:
I too, prefer using one drive over drop box. I used drop box mainly to
send files to people. Then I found out I could do the same with one
drive just by providing a link to my one drive and the item they
needed. Drop box was costing me $150 per year for 2 or 3 Tbs, far more
then what I needed, one drive gives you 1 TB of storage and is included
in office 365, which only cost $119. Per year.
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Les Kriegler
 

David,

In addition to what Larry has stated, I’ve noticed that for whatever reason, the shortcut stops working. I’ve had to go into the Jaws version I wish it assigned, and set it up again.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Gassman
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

David,

Does she have other versions of JAWS on her PC that might be sharing that shortcut.

It has happened to me.

I had to check each version to see what the shortcut key was.

Sometimes you have to change it in older versions that might be on the computer in order for the version you are using to work properly.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

David,

Does she have other versions of JAWS on her PC that might be sharing that shortcut.

It has happened to me.

I had to check each version to see what the shortcut key was.

Sometimes you have to change it in older versions that might be on the computer in order for the version you are using to work properly.

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Richard Turner
 

From a fellow sufferer of this bug, I’m guessing she is running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, or 2019 on Windows 10.  I reported this bug last year to FS and discovered that only a few people had this issue.

Eric Damery did a tandem session with me and he could observe it on my machine, this  was still with Jaws 2019.

They thought they had solved it in 2020, which did work fine for about 4 days.

Then, I lost the ability to use the shortcuts I had created.

So, I switched to using the pin to task bar, I think it is called, where Windows Key plus 1 launches the first program in the order pinned, etc.

 

I am the only user of this machine, I have admin rights up the ying yang, yet, they do not seem to know what causes this.

This is a Del Inspiron  57 something or other, laptop.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  The shortcut keys for JAWS are slow to make the program respond however they usually work.  With older JAWS versions the shortcut keys had to be reset after an update.

 

Dan  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: JAWS 2020: Speech and Sounds Manager/Editing a Scheme: What Happened to the HTML Tab?

Mike B
 


It's gone on both my Win-7 and 10 computers.  Don't know when they removed it, but it's definitely gone.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: JAWS 2020: Speech and Sounds Manager/Editing a Scheme: What Happened to the HTML Tab?

When editing a speech and sounds scheme there used to be an HTML tab
right before the last Misc tab. I've noticed that this tab is gone in
the latest build of JAWS 2020. Does anyone know if this is a bug or if
it was deliberately removed?
moderated JAWS 2020: Speech and Sounds Manager/Editing a Scheme: What Happened to the HTML Tab?

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

When editing a speech and sounds scheme there used to be an HTML tab right before the last Misc tab. I've noticed that this tab is gone in the latest build of JAWS 2020. Does anyone know if this is a bug or if it was deliberately removed?
moderated Re: getting jaws to say unread

fenderwal@...
 

Hi, Marv. I don't know if someone helped you off list, or, if you managed to figure out a solution on your own, but I thought I'd send this anyway just in case.
 
Lou N.

Creating a Graphic Label Manually

To practice creating a Graphic Label, use HJPad. To launch HJPad go to Start, All Programs, JAWS X (where X is the JAWS version number), Run HJPad.

Using the Graphics Labeler is easy, but before you start ensure that JAWS is set to speak graphics. Follow these steps to be sure:

  1. With HJPad open, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings.
  2. In the Search box, type the term "graphics" (without the quotes), and then press DOWN ARROW to move to the Graphics option in the tree view.
  3. Press the SPACEBAR until you hear JAWS say, "All."
  4. Next, press ENTER to accept the change, and then close Quick Settings.

Now that all graphics will be spoken, you are ready to find a graphic to label.

  1. Press the NUM PAD MINUS key to activate the JAWS cursor.

Tip:    To navigate to the toolbar, first press PAGE UP to move to the top of the window, and then press HOME to move to the top, left.

  1. Use the ARROW Keys to move to the first toolbar button. You will hear, "Graphic XXX." XXX can indicate any number.
  2. Press INSERT+G to open the Graphics Labeler.
  3. When the Graphics Labeler is opened, the focus is in the edit field, where you should enter the label for the graphic. It will contain the graphic and the number that is assigned to it. Type the name for your graphic.
  4. Press the TAB key to move to the braille label field. Here you can enter a label for a braille display.
  5. Next press the TAB key to move to a group of radio buttons that will let you determine where you want to save the label, in the application file, default file, or both files.
  6. Press ENTER to activate your graphic label.

Note: To edit a graphic label, use the same procedure that you would to create a new graphic label, and just change the name of the label in the Graphics Labeler when it opens. To delete a graphic label, do the same, but delete the name in the Graphics Labeler.




From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marvin Kotler
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io Calendar; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting jaws to say unread

Good  afternoon listers; first, using jaws 2020                      and windows 10 1909 and windows 10 mail.  When I arrow down my message list, jaws says the date instead of unread.  I do not use e mail much, so, if anyone could tell me how to get jaws to say unread, I would appreciate it.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 
moderated Re: reading pdf documents with jaws.

Patrick Murphy
 

Thanks for that. It still reads the text, but at least, it tells me whether
or not it expands over the cell or it is cropped.

Regards,
Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday 15 July 2020 23:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdf documents with jaws.

To be alerted when text is covered up in Excel, in quick settings
(insert-v) check the box for cell text visibility detection.
At 03:18 PM 7/15/2020, you wrote:
Hi Dan,

Yes, this is exactly my problem.
The information is being read even if it cannot be seen.
I am using an old version of office, but i have the latest update for adobe
reader.
Is there any way that you know of, to have only those words read out that
are visible?
My problem is, that when i save something to send to someone else, i think,
that the formatting is all right, as jaws reads everything.
Its only when someone asks "where is my info" that i find out it is not
there.
I tried saving it as a web page, but this is of little use either.
I read somewhere on the web, that if you select the entire work sheet and
then paste it into word, it creates a table.
Yes it does, and jaws reads it out, but if there is too much text in the
table column, it is wrapped in a way, that the first line of text seems to
belong to the column above it.
Again, this can only be verified by someone who can see it.

pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan
Longmore
Sent: Wednesday 15 July 2020 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdf documents with jaws.

The screen reader will always read all of the text in an XL column even if
the column is truncated and the words are not visible.
moderated Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

David Bailes
 

Hi Robin,
you'll find some information on using OneDrive in the OneDrive section of this guide:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-10-Guide.html

David.


On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 05:20 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:

Hi All,

Microsoft keeps prompting me to think about using One Drive on my home laptop.  We just started using it at work.   Can someone explain to me if One Drive is like DropBox in that I can store my files on my hard drive and choose which files to move to One Drive.  Or, if I enable One Drive, will all my files be transitioned to One Drive and I’ll have to flag which ones I want to  keep offline copies of?  The latter is how we do it at work, but since I didn’t set it up on my work laptop, I’m not sure if I have a choice on my personal laptop as to how One Drive works.   Just a little flustered about changing how I do things and being able to find my files.

 

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moderated Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

David Diamond
 

I believe so.  But, I could be wrong it would not be the first time and certainly won’t be the last.  I also use word as before using it my spelling and grammar were atrocious. 

moderated Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

JM Casey
 

Cool; thanks, Alan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: July 14, 2020 4:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

According to Eric Damery and Glen Gordon in today's NFB meeting on JAWS, Mozilla is aware of this issue which was caused inadvertently by them in the Firefox 78.x update and it should be fixed when version 79 is released on the 28th of this month.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Blair
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

I'm thinking 78.0.2 is crashing less than 78.0.1 but still definitely not good! I'm using Chrome a lot more now, or else using Firefox with NVDA. I tried Jaws 2019 and 2020 and they both crash often with latest Firefox.

On 7/12/2020 8:42 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

78.02 which is now the latest version, also crashes, I mostly use the new Chromium based Edge for the most part.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

It crashed occasionally before 78.0.1 but it was a tolerable level of wankiness. This update is definitely unveiling something nasty. Mozilla apparently had a twitter back and forth trying to reproduce this bug and it was a tricky one to both find and solve. I guess we wait for next update, which with FF…should be soon.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: July 12, 2020 4:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

For what it’s worth, I have JAWS 2020 and I have stopped using Firefox for the most part because it crashes frequently. I spoke with tech support at Freedom Scientific who told me they are well aware of it.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

Hey folks. Yes, I know JAWS 2018 is behind the curve, now, and that an upgrade would be beneficial. However, I’m not in a position to upgrade at this time. At the risk of running a huge struggle to continue using outdated software, I would like to know if anybody has any ideas of configuration settings that might make Firefox less crashy using this screen-reader. I know its’ an issue between interaction with JAWS and firefox and, frankly, always has been since the advent of Quantum. I tested this with nVDA (2019.3 and 2020.1) and it’s a lot less crashy. In fact I have failed to make Firefox crash even once using this other screen-reader. I know some users of JAWS 2020 have reported crashes, too, but I’m unable to test that currently and at a guess, newer versions of JFW should probably work better as well as NVDA. Anyway, since I’m not looking to downgrade firefox and not quite ready to either upgrade or give up JFW for the web browsing experience, in part because it works so nicely with my Focus braille display, just wondering if there are any flags/options I can alter in about:preferences or about:config (firefox’s “hidden” advanced settings page containing literally thousands of configurable options) that might help me have a smoother experience. Right now, since FF updated to 78.0.1 a week or two ago, everything from wikipedia pages to my old wisp’s webmail is crashing tabs. This only happens when jFW is running.

 

NB: I’m aware of other browsers  and use them, so no need to suggest just switching browsers. Thanks!!

 

 

 
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