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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
With Microsoft 365, and probably with stand-alone Word versions for a while, opening in PDF is a free feature. I used to use the SendTo menu to send documents to Word, now I’ve just made it the default.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts thme to word.
I can't remember the name.
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs? Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive. Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Sharon
Copy text through speech history?
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Can you elaborate on how to do so? Sharon
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Only problems in Chrome are: A. Copying text directly is not possible. You have to do it through speech history. B. More importantly, you cannot navigate the document in para-wise form. Either you must go line by line or say all. The paras are not cleanly presented, as they are in Adobe. But still better than Adobe. Rahul On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Dean Martineau <topdot@gmail.com> wrote:
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printing to pdf
Sharon
Why can I print to pdf using Google Chrome sometimes, but not be able to do so on other web pages? Can MS Edge do this as well? Sometimes I want to safe a web page but cannot seem to select all text or if I can select it, copy and paste do not work. Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs? Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive. Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Justin Williams
I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts thme to word.
I can't remember the name.
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs? Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive. Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs? Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive. Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Rahul Bajaj
Only problems in Chrome are:
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A. Copying text directly is not possible. You have to do it through speech history. B. More importantly, you cannot navigate the document in para-wise form. Either you must go line by line or say all. The paras are not cleanly presented, as they are in Adobe. But still better than Adobe. Rahul
On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Dean Martineau <topdot@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
netbat66
i get this sometimes. and i have to go into the properties and the shortcut will be there but will not work until i put it back to none, click on ok to save it and re set it back to control alt j again. then it will start working again.
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From: Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned. 1. Go to the desktop. 2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter. 3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties. 4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j. 5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the change. 6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked. Good luck! At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote: Hi all,
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jaws with internet controls.
Patrick Murphy
Hi,
I have several nas devices on my network with different web interfaces. The buffalo link station is particularly inaccessible. There are various button controls on it, depending on what you are doing. With jaws, there seems to be no way to activate them. I have tried: Using the “enter” key. Pressing “spacebar”. Routing pc to jaws and left-clicking. Same thing but right-clicking. Does anyone have any ideas as to how these controls might be accessed? Buffalo say that they are addressing this, but i wont hold my breath. I have tried it with jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update). Most likely, whoever developed the interface didn’t label anything. It also doesn’t seem to matter what browser is being used. I have tried: Internet explorer, edge (latest version), google chrome (latest version) and brave.
pat
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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
I'm a fan of opening them in Word by default, but Chrome is good also. I'm
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, The best reading experience for PDF files is in Chrome I believe. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@comproom.co.uk W: https://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: 24 June 2020 19:42 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul
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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Tom Behler
Steve:
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I use Google Chrome as my main web browser. How do you get to the PDF reader in Chrome. Right now, I either read PDF's through Adobe Acrobat DC, or convert them to word documents in Microsoft 365. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:58 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, The best reading experience for PDF files is in Chrome I believe. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@comproom.co.uk W: https://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: 24 June 2020 19:42 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul
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Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
Yes, with this key combination, you need to press the letter "J" and tab to
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Okay. Other key combinations like CTRL+SHIFT+ need to be pressed in combination with the letter you choose. So with regard to your example, press alt+enter tab then to the shortcut key and press J And then tab to Okay.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS I checjked how mine was set as it wasn't working with control alt j. It was set to none. The only other options were control alt up or control alt down. Is there a way to set it to control alt J? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned. 1. Go to the desktop. 2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter. 3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties. 4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j. 5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the change. 6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked. Good luck! At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote: Hi all,
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Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
Mario
just press j, the control+alt is automatically assumed unless you want
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From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Friday, July 17, 2020, 10:34 AM Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS I checjked how mine was set as it wasn't working with control alt j. It was set to none. The only other options were control alt up or control alt down. Is there a way to set it to control alt J? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned. 1. Go to the desktop. 2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter. 3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties. 4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j. 5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the change. 6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked. Good luck! At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote: Hi all, I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do? Any assistance is appreciated. Thanks, David .
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Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Steve Nutt
Hi,
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The best reading experience for PDF files is in Chrome I believe. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@comproom.co.uk W: https://www.comproom.co.uk
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: 24 June 2020 19:42 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do? Rahul
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Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
Pat Seed
Hi Larry and
All,
Like you said, Larry, before installing any new
version of JAWS, I always change the shortcut of the older version to
be:
(control alt 0) for JAWS 2020,
(control alt 9) if it is JAWS 2019,
(control alt 8) if it is JAWS 2018, and so
on.
Then I install the updated JAWS, which then, can
use the
(control alt j).
This numbering system works great for using older
versions of JAWS, because it is easy to remember, should I like to use an older
version for something in particular.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat
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Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
kevin meyers
I checjked how mine was set as it wasn't working with control alt j. It was
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set to none. The only other options were control alt up or control alt down. Is there a way to set it to control alt J?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned. 1. Go to the desktop. 2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter. 3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties. 4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j. 5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the change. 6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked. Good luck! At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote: Hi all,
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Re: Creating a Facebook Business Page with JAWS
Dan Longmore
I would recommend using the Facebook pages app to create the page. Then you can access it from your regular Facebook profile if you were attaching it to your profile. I can’t speak for jaws but Facebook pages is really accessible with Apple’s voiceover. Hopefully that means it is also accessible with other screen readers.
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Re: Question for those using One Drive at home
Dan Longmore
Yes, you are correct with pricing.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:16 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home I think for a one person subscription it is around $70 per year, for up to five it is around $100 per year. That gives you access to all of the Microsoft Office programs that you can download rather than use the web versions. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home You can get a small amount of space without a subscription. With a subscription you get a terabyte of space and other family members can share in your subscription each getting their own program copies and one terabyte of space. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home Does OneDrive require subscription to Office 365? At 06:54 PM 7/15/2020, you wrote: I too, prefer using one drive over drop box. I used drop box mainly to
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Re: Question for those using One Drive at home
Richard Turner
I think for a one person subscription it is around $70 per year, for up to five it is around $100 per year.
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That gives you access to all of the Microsoft Office programs that you can download rather than use the web versions. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home You can get a small amount of space without a subscription. With a subscription you get a terabyte of space and other family members can share in your subscription each getting their own program copies and one terabyte of space. Dan -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 8:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Question for those using One Drive at home Does OneDrive require subscription to Office 365? At 06:54 PM 7/15/2020, you wrote: I too, prefer using one drive over drop box. I used drop box mainly to
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Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
I’ve never had to reset the hot keys in older versions. They have always worked for me. Larry
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
Hi, The shortcut keys for JAWS are slow to make the program respond however they usually work. With older JAWS versions the shortcut keys had to be reset after an update.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Hi all,
I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?
Any assistance is appreciated.
Thanks, David
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Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
Ann Byrne
Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned.
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1. Go to the desktop. 2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter. 3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties. 4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j. 5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the change. 6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked. Good luck!
At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote:
Hi all,
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