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Re: clock question
Marty Hutchings
I changed a battery in a Dell about 8 years ago. I did it with the power cord unplugged, because I am not messing around inside a piece of gear with power connected and never lost anything as far as settings goes. It worked fine when plugged in and I was able to set the clock.
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Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
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From: Dave Durber Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 7:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: clock question Tapp the Windows Key, then type: Date, followed by ENTER. If you or, someone else decide to change the lythium backup battery, do not remove the power cable, when the old lythium battery is removed, because, if you do remove the power cable with no backup battery inserted, all the bios settings will be lost. HTH Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:07 PM Subject: Re: clock question I can't find date and time in the control panel... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: July 14, 2020 2:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: clock question press the windows key and go to the search box and type in control panel. then go to date and time. go to the internet settings and set it to get the time from the server. -----Original Message----- From: Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: clock question How do I get to Windows settings? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: clock question You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings. If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may be going out because it shouldn't slow down. You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so it syncs with the internet. I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand and launch Narrator. HTH, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: clock question Hi all, Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
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Re: Question for those using One Drive at home
Dan Longmore
I really like one drive and find it easier than dropbox. I can access my files and make them available off-line if I wish. The one drive account is always available on the computer from which I said it up and I can access the one drive files from any device once I sign into OneDrive from that other device such as my phone.
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On Jul 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:
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reading pdf documents with jaws.
Patrick Murphy
Hi,
I am using excel and ms word. When i save files as pdf, jaws reads out text even if it cannot be seen. I had my son look at a particular document, and this is basically what he told me.
I had 8 cells of excel merged. In this i had “if you have any questions in relation to this, please contact the company using the details above”. When i look at it in excel, jaws reads out the entire thing. When i save it as a pdf, jaws reads out the entire thing. However, when my son looks at the pdf, he only sees the text as far as the word “using”. Everything after this is truncated. With regard to word, if i create a table, and things are not properly presented in the columns, jaws just reads it as if everything is ok. For example, if there is too much text in a column of a table, to the eye, it looks like it is “pushed” up. At least, thats the way my son explained it to me. However, as i said, jaws reads it just fine in word and as a pdf. I suppose, basically what i am trying to get at here, is: Does anyone know of a way, to have jaws just read out what someone with sight would actually see? To have jaws speaking text that is hidden from the eye, is causing problems.
Regards,
pat
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Re: Windows 10 question
Hi, Usually this indicates an incompatible driver or app version in use, as there are reports that removing OneDrive prior to applying Version 2004 will work on some cases. Let’s discuss this further on a more specialized list. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:53 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows 10 question
Just as a data point, it does appear that Microsoft has now built-in "hardware readiness checking" to the Feature Update process. Several people have reported that they had the update work on some of their computers, and fail on others, with a message given that the machine could not update to Windows 10. The "can't update to Windows 10" part is inaccurate as they are already on Windows 10, so I hope they eventually change the wording to say something like, "can't apply this feature update to Windows 10 on this computer." I intentionally attempted to force the update on a spare laptop I have where the Windows Update Pane is stating that it's "not quite ready" for the feature update, just to see if one could actually force it or if it would stop itself. It goes far further into the process of applying the update than makes sense to me if it's going to later call a halt on it, but I don't design when the checks occur, Microsoft does. This PC can't be upgraded to Windows 10. Your PC settings aren't supported yet on this version of Windows 10. Microsoft is working to support your settings soon. No action is needed. Windows Update will offer this version of Windows 10 automatically when these settings are supported. Learn More Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Windows 10 question
Just as a data point, it does appear that Microsoft has now built-in "hardware readiness checking" to the Feature Update process. Several people have reported that they had the update work on some of their computers, and fail on others, with a message given that the machine could not update to Windows 10. The "can't update to Windows 10" part is inaccurate as they are already on Windows 10, so I hope they eventually change the wording to say something like, "can't apply this feature update to Windows 10 on this computer." I intentionally attempted to force the update on a spare laptop I have where the Windows Update Pane is stating that it's "not quite ready" for the feature update, just to see if one could actually force it or if it would stop itself. It goes far further into the process of applying the update than makes sense to me if it's going to later call a halt on it, but I don't design when the checks occur, Microsoft does.
Here is the exact text of the message that follows the big, "Attention" banner: This PC can't be upgraded to Windows 10. Your PC settings aren't supported yet on this version of Windows 10. Microsoft is working to support your settings soon. No action is needed. Windows Update will offer this version of Windows 10 automatically when these settings are supported. Learn MoreSo it appears that Microsoft has now made it impossible to force update machines that it deems are "not quite ready" for a given Feature Update. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Question for those using One Drive at home
Richard Turner
I use oneDrive at home with my Microsoft 365 plan. I believe you have a choice to store everything on your local drive, but even if it is in the cloud, you can opt to make it available off line. In fact, if it is in the cloud and you open it locally, it gets made available off line automatically I think. I’ve not notice any lag in opening files or anything. I can access my files from my iPhone anywhere this way, which I like. And after the latest DropBox update, I’m inclined to just use OneDrive. I get 1 TB of storage with my Microsoft 365 and likely won’t ever come close to that amount. My wife, who also is using the Microsoft 365 subscription also has her own 1 TB of space from the one subscription.
I think it works great and is easier than the current DropBox on my computer.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:21 AM To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Question for those using One Drive at home
Hi All, Microsoft keeps prompting me to think about using One Drive on my home laptop. We just started using it at work. Can someone explain to me if One Drive is like DropBox in that I can store my files on my hard drive and choose which files to move to One Drive. Or, if I enable One Drive, will all my files be transitioned to One Drive and I’ll have to flag which ones I want to keep offline copies of? The latter is how we do it at work, but since I didn’t set it up on my work laptop, I’m not sure if I have a choice on my personal laptop as to how One Drive works. Just a little flustered about changing how I do things and being able to find my files.
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Question for those using One Drive at home
Van Lant, Robin
Hi All, Microsoft keeps prompting me to think about using One Drive on my home laptop. We just started using it at work. Can someone explain to me if One Drive is like DropBox in that I can store my files on my hard drive and choose which files to move to One Drive. Or, if I enable One Drive, will all my files be transitioned to One Drive and I’ll have to flag which ones I want to keep offline copies of? The latter is how we do it at work, but since I didn’t set it up on my work laptop, I’m not sure if I have a choice on my personal laptop as to how One Drive works. Just a little flustered about changing how I do things and being able to find my files.
Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank 720-304-1060
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Re: Creating a Facebook Business Page with JAWS
Vaughn Brown
Hello,
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You can start creating your business page by going to create page or start new page. As you go through the steps you should see a drop-down menu to select the tpe of page you want. I am going by memory but I think this is how you start. The rest should be self explainatory -- name of business, contact information, hours of operation etc. Warmly, Vaughn
On 7/15/20, Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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Re: Windows 10 question
Mario
thanks Steve and Bill. I appreciate your answers. right to the point.
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From: Steve Matzura [mailto:number6@noisynotes.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 8:32 PM Subject: Windows 10 question From https://insider.windows.com/en-us/articles/were-listening-to-you: As many of you know, the feature updates for Windows 10 occur twice a year. A feature update includes upgrading Windows to the latest version with enhanced features, security improvements, and more. A feature update is different from the quality updates that are release on Patch Tuesday. Quality updates are mostly security fixes and are installed after one reboot, whereas feature updates are installed in steps that require more than one reboot to complete. There are four phases in a feature update installation. Online phases occur while the device is being used and the operating system is running, which means tasks are happening in the background without disrupting you. Offline phases on the other hand can disrupt you, since the device can’t be used. For the Creators Update in April 2017, the average offline time for a user was about 82 minutes. On 7/14/2020 7:28 PM, Mario wrote: what is the difference between feature updates and quality updates? -------- Original Message -------- From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 5:37 PM Subject: Windows 10 question On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 05:19 PM, Mario wrote: isn't it a bit redundant? At this point in time, and with the changes to how Feature Updates are applied, the answer to that is, "Yes." But, if one wishes to postpone other Windows Updates (and I think that critical updates are never able to be delayed) one can use those settings. The Pause for 7 days is just the default pause. It says right beneath if you wish to have a longer period then use the advanced features to set the time span (up to 35 days). In advanced settings you also have the option to postpone Feature Updates from even being presented for up to 1 year (365 days) and quality updates from being downloaded and applied for up to a month (30 days). .
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Re: clock question
Dave Durber
Tapp the Windows Key, then type: Date, followed by ENTER.
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If you or, someone else decide to change the lythium backup battery, do not remove the power cable, when the old lythium battery is removed, because, if you do remove the power cable with no backup battery inserted, all the bios settings will be lost. HTH Dave Durber
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From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin@mymts.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:07 PM Subject: Re: clock question I can't find date and time in the control panel... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66 Sent: July 14, 2020 2:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: clock question press the windows key and go to the search box and type in control panel. then go to date and time. go to the internet settings and set it to get the time from the server. -----Original Message----- From: Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: clock question How do I get to Windows settings? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: July 14, 2020 2:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: clock question You can go to the windows settings, date and time settings. If you have automatically adjust the time then as someone said, your battery may be going out because it shouldn't slow down. You can get into those settings and adjust it manually, but I just leave mine so it syncs with the internet. I also find it is easier to cope with settings if I put Jaws in Speech on Demand and launch Narrator. HTH, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: clock question Hi all, Can someone please tell me how to change the time on my computer so that it stays? It's off by at least 15 minutes which is rather annoying. I'm running Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
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Re: Windows 10 question
Steve Matzura
Maybe not. Maybe it just need someone to have a quick look at its Windows Update screen, or the event logger. I can do some of that for you via a screenreader connection, JAWS Tandem or NVDA Remote, your choice. I can't guarantee a solution, but another pair of ears on a problem is never a bad thing.
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Re: duck duck go browser
Margaret Thomas
Thanks.
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On 7/15/2020 5:39 AM, fenderwal@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Nothing more is needed to use duck duck go.
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Re: duck duck go browser
fenderwal@...
Nothing more is needed to use duck duck go.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: duck duck go browser Steve, Judy and All: I dug up my Chrome tutorial and was able to make DuckDuckGo the search engine.Am I done or do I need to download anything from DuckDuckGo? Thank you, Margaret On 7/14/2020 9:10 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote: Thanks, Judy. I saw Steve's post before yours and Google Chrome is my
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Creating a Facebook Business Page with JAWS
Debbie April Yuille
Hi All
Does anyone know of a way to create a business page on Face Book that works with JAWS? If so, any tips or advice is much appreciated.
Thanks Debbie
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Creating a Facebook Business Page with JAWS
Debbie April Yuille
Hi All
Does anyone know of a way to create a business page on Face Book that works with JAWS? If so, any tips or advice is much appreciated.
Thanks Debbie
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Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?
Brian Blair <brianblair@...>
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On 7/14/2020 2:35 PM, Casey wrote:
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Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view
John Covici
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Maybe we could give
you better advise. On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:51:16 -0400, Rick Miller wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Windows 10 question
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:12 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Do NOT force Version 2004 (May 2020 Update) on your system unless you have clear justifications.And I'll second that advice!! The only reason I would force an update to Version 2004 at this point in time is if I had a machine that somehow never updated beyond 1803. At the moment Versions 1809, 1903, and 1909 remain in support. If you have Version 1809, when it is announced as officially going out of support (its length of support was extended secondary to the global pandemic) I would then manually trigger an update to Version 2004. For all others, either wait until: 1. The version you are on is announced as going out of support and you have not yet had the Version 2004 update apply. 2. Microsoft announces that Version 2004 is officially "good to go for everyone." I suspect it will be some months until this happens. Several of us have given the advice in the numbered list above for each and every feature update, just substituting the appropriate version number in place of 2004. Once the second feature update of 2020 is officially released, the advice will apply to triggering that update as well. The easiest way to think of this is there is absolutely no reason to rush a feature update if there is not a very good reason for doing so, and there is absolutely no reason not to force a feature update if for some reason your machine "became stuck" on a Windows 10 version that is going out of support (which circles back to creating a very good reason for triggering a feature update manually - as something about Windows Update on the machine that hasn't presented a feature update to the user over several feature updates is definitely broken). -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Windows 10 question
Hi, A few weeks ago I wrote the following to members of a certain Windows 10 list: Do NOT force Version 2004 (May 2020 Update) on your system unless you have clear justifications. If you do check for updates and you get a message that your system isn’t quite ready for Version 2004, take the advice as is. May 2020 Update is still being deployed as Microsoft expands availability based on feedback and telemetry from early adopters. At the moment May 2020 Update is blocked on devices with certain software and hardware configurations. Also, there are reports that if you do upgrade using installation media, some people will get a message that the system being upgraded isn’t compatible with Version 2004. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Ketler
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows 10 question
I did mean 2004. I guess I will have to hire someone to fix this problem. The 2004 update is not here. This computer was bought new in 2018.
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From: Steve Matzura
19-09 update? Don't you mean 20-04?
Try this:
1. Press Windows Key + Shift +I to open the Windows Settings pane. 2. In the search field, type update and press the Down Arrow Key until you hear "Windows update," then press ENTER.
You're now in the dialog where you can do things like check for updates, pause updates for seven days, etc.
If you press the "Check for updates" button and your system tells you you're up to date, then there's something either on or in your system that can't be updated to the latest version of Windows 10, or any later versions than your current version for that matter.
You also may not be getting updated because during the hours you've chosen for those updates to be applied, your computer is off or offline. You can force the update(s) to happen by tabbing through the updates dialog and finding a list of available updates chosen for your system, then tabbing to the download or "install" button immediately after that list.
HTH
On 7/14/2020 6:17 PM, Gary Ketler wrote:
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Re: Windows 10 question
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:54 PM, Gary Ketler wrote:
I guess I will have to hire someone to fix this problem.- Not necessarily. I know of very few who can't follow these instructions: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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