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Re: Windows 10 question
Maybe not. Maybe it just need someone to have a quick look at its
Windows Update screen, or the event logger. I can do some of that
for you via a screenreader connection, JAWS Tandem or NVDA Remote,
your choice. I can't guarantee a solution, but another pair of
ears on a problem is never a bad thing.
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On 7/14/2020 10:23 PM, Gary Ketler
wrote:
I did mean 2004. I guess I will have to
hire someone to fix this problem. The 2004 update is not here.
This computer was bought new in 2018.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
19-09 update? Don't you mean 20-04?
Try this:
1. Press Windows Key + Shift +I to open the Windows Settings
pane.
2. In the search field, type update and press the Down Arrow
Key until you hear "Windows update," then press ENTER.
You're now in the dialog where you can do things like check
for updates, pause updates for seven days, etc.
If you press the "Check for updates" button and your system
tells you you're up to date, then there's something either on
or in your system that can't be updated to the latest version
of Windows 10, or any later versions than your current version
for that matter.
You also may not be getting updated because during the hours
you've chosen for those updates to be applied, your computer
is off or offline. You can force the update(s) to happen by
tabbing through the updates dialog and finding a list of
available updates chosen for your system, then tabbing to the
download or "install" button immediately after that list.
HTH
On 7/14/2020 6:17 PM, Gary Ketler wrote:
I never received the 1909 updates. I
guess I’m out of luck.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
There's nothing to check. Updates are
no longer an option in Windows 10.
That is, you can't say you don't want
them. The best you can cd is pause
them for seven days.
On 7/14/2020 4:23 PM, Madison Martin
wrote:
> How do I check to see if automatic
updates are inabled?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
> Sent: July 14, 2020 3:21 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 question
>
> Hi,
> The fastest way to find out what
Windows 10 release you are using is: Start
> menu, type "winver" (without
quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line that
> starts with "Version".
> As for automatic updates: yes, it
is advised to keep this enabled. In the past,
> people gave conflicting advice in
regards to keeping automatic updates on or
> off, mainly because of concern
that you may find yourself upgraded to more
> recent Windows 10 release (termed
"feature updates"). Times have changed since
> then - Microsoft will not install
new Windows 10 feature updates (releases)
> unless your system (hardware and
software) is deemed compatible with the new
> update.
> Although the following will not
directly address automatic updates question
> posed, it provides a short
overview on what is happening with feature updates
> (source: the Win10 forum I
mentioned earlier):
> https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu
> re+updates,100,2,0,74554449
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Madison Martin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11
PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Windows 10 question
>
> Hi again all,
> Can someone please tell me how to
find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm
> running? Just curious to know
that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates
> turned on? Thanks Madison
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Re: duck duck go browser
Thanks.
Margaret
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On 7/15/2020 5:39 AM, fenderwal@sbcglobal.net wrote: Nothing more is needed to use duck duck go.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret
Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: duck duck go browser
Steve, Judy and All:
I dug up my Chrome tutorial and was able to make DuckDuckGo the search
engine.Am I done or do I need to download anything from DuckDuckGo?
Thank you,
Margaret
On 7/14/2020 9:10 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
Thanks, Judy. I saw Steve's post before yours and Google Chrome is my
default browser. I think Google is currently the search engine, but
must double check.
Margaret
On 7/14/2020 8:37 PM, Judy wrote:
Hi, Duck duck go is not a browser, it is a search engine. I use
google chrome as my browser and duck duck tgo as my search engine.
Judy
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent:
Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re:
duck duck go browser
Mike and All:
It's been a long morning and I'm probably missing something obvious,
but using the link in the post, I'm not finding a way of downloading
DuckDuckGo as a browser on Windows 10 Pro with JAWS 2020.
Google Chrome is my default browser. Am I correct that if, I want
to make Chrome more private, I should get the DuckDuckGo Chrome
extension? And it's at the Chrome store? And I don't need an
extension for DuckDuckGo as a browser?
Any help straightening me out will be greatly appreciated.
Margaret
On 6/24/2020 12:04 PM, Mike B wrote:
Here you go: https://duckduckgo.com/install
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. I don't know the key to
success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. -----
Original Message ----- *From:* kevin meyers
<mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:06
AM *Subject:* duck duck go browser
Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t
able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser.
Cheers, Kevin
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Re: duck duck go browser
Nothing more is needed to use duck duck go.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: duck duck go browser Steve, Judy and All: I dug up my Chrome tutorial and was able to make DuckDuckGo the search engine.Am I done or do I need to download anything from DuckDuckGo? Thank you, Margaret On 7/14/2020 9:10 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote: Thanks, Judy. I saw Steve's post before yours and Google Chrome is my
default browser. I think Google is currently the search engine, but
must double check.
Margaret
On 7/14/2020 8:37 PM, Judy wrote:
Hi, Duck duck go is not a browser, it is a search engine. I use
google chrome as my browser and duck duck tgo as my search engine.
Judy
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent:
Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re:
duck duck go browser
Mike and All:
It's been a long morning and I'm probably missing something obvious,
but using the link in the post, I'm not finding a way of downloading
DuckDuckGo as a browser on Windows 10 Pro with JAWS 2020.
Google Chrome is my default browser. Am I correct that if, I want
to make Chrome more private, I should get the DuckDuckGo Chrome
extension? And it's at the Chrome store? And I don't need an
extension for DuckDuckGo as a browser?
Any help straightening me out will be greatly appreciated.
Margaret
On 6/24/2020 12:04 PM, Mike B wrote:
Here you go: https://duckduckgo.com/install
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. I don't know the key to
success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. -----
Original Message ----- *From:* kevin meyers
<mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:06
AM *Subject:* duck duck go browser
Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t
able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser.
Cheers, Kevin
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Creating a Facebook Business Page with JAWS
Hi All Does anyone know of a way to create a business page on Face Book that works with JAWS? If so, any tips or advice is much appreciated. Thanks Debbie
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Creating a Facebook Business Page with JAWS
Hi All Does anyone know of a way to create a business page on Face Book that works with JAWS? If so, any tips or advice is much appreciated. Thanks Debbie
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Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?
Brian Blair <brianblair@...>
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On 7/14/2020 2:35 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi where can you get the beta from?
On 7/14/2020 4:52 PM, Brian Blair
wrote:
Eric also suggested that if we don't want to wait till
version 79 comes out at the end of the month that we could
download version 79 beta. I did that and so far, so good. No
crashes.
Brian
On 7/14/2020 12:38 PM, Steve
Matzura wrote:
It's up to 78.0.2, and it's real broke even on JAWS 2020.
Doesn't work any better with NVDA or Narrator, so I'm not
all-fired sure it's a JAWS problem.
On 7/14/2020 4:23 PM, Alan Lemly
wrote:
According to Eric Damery and
Glen Gordon in today's NFB meeting on JAWS, Mozilla is
aware of this issue which was caused inadvertently by
them in the Firefox 78.x update and it should be fixed
when version 79 is released on the 28th of this month.
Alan Lemly
I'm thinking 78.0.2 is crashing less than 78.0.1 but
still definitely not good! I'm using Chrome a lot more
now, or else using Firefox with NVDA. I tried Jaws 2019
and 2020 and they both crash often with latest Firefox.
On 7/12/2020 8:42 AM, Richard
Turner wrote:
78.02 which is now the latest
version, also crashes, I mostly use the new Chromium
based Edge for the most part.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others
breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break
the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is
notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
It crashed occasionally before
78.0.1 but it was a tolerable level of wankiness.
This update is definitely unveiling something nasty.
Mozilla apparently had a twitter back and forth
trying to reproduce this bug and it was a tricky one
to both find and solve. I guess we wait for next
update, which with FF…should be soon.
For what it’s worth, I have JAWS
2020 and I have stopped using Firefox for the most
part because it crashes frequently. I spoke with
tech support at Freedom Scientific who told me they
are well aware of it.
Shirley Tracy
From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Any thoughts on getting latest
version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with
older JFW (2018)?
Hey folks.
Yes, I know JAWS 2018 is behind the curve, now,
and that an upgrade would be beneficial. However,
I’m not in a position to upgrade at this time. At
the risk of running a huge struggle to continue
using outdated software, I would like to know if
anybody has any ideas of configuration settings
that might make Firefox less crashy using this
screen-reader. I know its’ an issue between
interaction with JAWS and firefox and, frankly,
always has been since the advent of Quantum. I
tested this with nVDA (2019.3 and 2020.1) and it’s
a lot less crashy. In fact I have failed to make
Firefox crash even once using this other
screen-reader. I know some users of JAWS 2020 have
reported crashes, too, but I’m unable to test that
currently and at a guess, newer versions of JFW
should probably work better as well as NVDA.
Anyway, since I’m not looking to downgrade firefox
and not quite ready to either upgrade or give up
JFW for the web browsing experience, in part
because it works so nicely with my Focus braille
display, just wondering if there are any
flags/options I can alter in about:preferences or
about:config
(firefox’s “hidden” advanced settings page
containing literally thousands of configurable
options) that might help me have a smoother
experience. Right now, since FF updated to 78.0.1
a week or two ago, everything from wikipedia pages
to my old wisp’s webmail is crashing tabs. This
only happens when jFW is running.
NB: I’m aware
of other browsers and use them, so no need to
suggest just switching browsers. Thanks!!
--
Casey
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Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Maybe we could give you better advise. On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:51:16 -0400, Rick Miller wrote:
So would that mean I would have to purchase a webcamera?
Rick Miller
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view
In the Zoom book from Carol Center it gives the keystrokes alt+f2,
and to switch to speaker view is alt+f1. You can also tab to these
settings, a third one being full screen. the book points out that if
video is turned off, so are gallery view and speaker view.
At 03:47 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
I tried that too, but it didn't work.
Rick Miller
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom
I read somewhere that ctrl+f2 would do it.
At 01:26 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
Okay, but does anybody know how to get into the Gallery view?
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom
Hi. I can answer a couple of your questions.
First, you get to the participant list by pressing alt-U. You have
to tab around until you get to the list of names; then you can arrow
up and down. This is somewhat buggy. They claim they're going to fix
it so that every time you get into the participant list you'll be
put in the list of names by default, but they haven't fixed it yet.
To chat with a participant, you have to open the chat panel. You do
this by pressing alt-H. That opens the chat panel. You then tab
around until you find the names of participants and press enter on
the name of the person you want to chat with. By default it's set to
send a chat to everyone.
Hope this helps.
John Riehl
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Zoom
Dear Listers:
I am taking part in a class at church via Zoom. I know how to join
a meeting and how to mute and unmute my microphone, but there are a
few things I am having problems with. First, when you join a
meeting, how do you get to the Gallery view using JAWS? Also, when
I get to the list of participants JAWS won't read the list whenever
I arrow up and down. Also, I know there is a spot where it says,
"Find a participant." I assume you enter the person's name and then
the person's name will show. But if you want to send a message to
that participant, how do you do it? Whenever I find the "Find
Participant," link and enter the person's name, when I tab again it
just gives me the option to either clear the search or cancel. So
what does this mean?
Rick Miller
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Windows 10 question
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:12 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Do NOT force Version 2004 (May 2020 Update) on your system unless you have clear justifications.
And I'll second that advice!! The only reason I would force an update to Version 2004 at this point in time is if I had a machine that somehow never updated beyond 1803. At the moment Versions 1809, 1903, and 1909 remain in support. If you have Version 1809, when it is announced as officially going out of support (its length of support was extended secondary to the global pandemic) I would then manually trigger an update to Version 2004. For all others, either wait until: 1. The version you are on is announced as going out of support and you have not yet had the Version 2004 update apply. 2. Microsoft announces that Version 2004 is officially "good to go for everyone." I suspect it will be some months until this happens. Several of us have given the advice in the numbered list above for each and every feature update, just substituting the appropriate version number in place of 2004. Once the second feature update of 2020 is officially released, the advice will apply to triggering that update as well. The easiest way to think of this is there is absolutely no reason to rush a feature update if there is not a very good reason for doing so, and there is absolutely no reason not to force a feature update if for some reason your machine "became stuck" on a Windows 10 version that is going out of support (which circles back to creating a very good reason for triggering a feature update manually - as something about Windows Update on the machine that hasn't presented a feature update to the user over several feature updates is definitely broken). --
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss
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Re: Windows 10 question
Hi, A few weeks ago I wrote the following to members of a certain Windows 10 list: Do NOT force Version 2004 (May 2020 Update) on your system unless you have clear justifications. If you do check for updates and you get a message that your system isn’t quite ready for Version 2004, take the advice as is. May 2020 Update is still being deployed as Microsoft expands availability based on feedback and telemetry from early adopters. At the moment May 2020 Update is blocked on devices with certain software and hardware configurations. Also, there are reports that if you do upgrade using installation media, some people will get a message that the system being upgraded isn’t compatible with Version 2004. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Ketler Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows 10 question I did mean 2004. I guess I will have to hire someone to fix this problem. The 2004 update is not here. This computer was bought new in 2018. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 19-09 update? Don't you mean 20-04? Try this: 1. Press Windows Key + Shift +I to open the Windows Settings pane. 2. In the search field, type update and press the Down Arrow Key until you hear "Windows update," then press ENTER. You're now in the dialog where you can do things like check for updates, pause updates for seven days, etc. If you press the "Check for updates" button and your system tells you you're up to date, then there's something either on or in your system that can't be updated to the latest version of Windows 10, or any later versions than your current version for that matter. You also may not be getting updated because during the hours you've chosen for those updates to be applied, your computer is off or offline. You can force the update(s) to happen by tabbing through the updates dialog and finding a list of available updates chosen for your system, then tabbing to the download or "install" button immediately after that list. HTH On 7/14/2020 6:17 PM, Gary Ketler wrote: I never received the 1909 updates. I guess I’m out of luck. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 There's nothing to check. Updates are no longer an option in Windows 10. That is, you can't say you don't want them. The best you can cd is pause them for seven days. On 7/14/2020 4:23 PM, Madison Martin wrote: > How do I check to see if automatic updates are inabled? > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee > Sent: July 14, 2020 3:21 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Windows 10 question > > Hi, > The fastest way to find out what Windows 10 release you are using is: Start > menu, type "winver" (without quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line that > starts with "Version". > As for automatic updates: yes, it is advised to keep this enabled. In the past, > people gave conflicting advice in regards to keeping automatic updates on or > off, mainly because of concern that you may find yourself upgraded to more > recent Windows 10 release (termed "feature updates"). Times have changed since > then - Microsoft will not install new Windows 10 feature updates (releases) > unless your system (hardware and software) is deemed compatible with the new > update. > Although the following will not directly address automatic updates question > posed, it provides a short overview on what is happening with feature updates > (source: the Win10 forum I mentioned earlier): > https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu > re+updates,100,2,0,74554449 > Cheers, > Joseph > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Windows 10 question > > Hi again all, > Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm > running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates > turned on? Thanks Madison
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Re: Windows 10 question
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:54 PM, Gary Ketler wrote:
I guess I will have to hire someone to fix this problem.
- Not necessarily. I know of very few who can't follow these instructions: Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file --
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss
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Re: Windows 10 question
I did mean 2004. I guess I will have to hire someone to fix this problem. The 2004 update is not here. This computer was bought new in 2018. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Steve MatzuraSent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.ioSubject: Re: Windows 10 question 19-09 update? Don't you mean 20-04? Try this: 1. Press Windows Key + Shift +I to open the Windows Settings pane. 2. In the search field, type update and press the Down Arrow Key until you hear "Windows update," then press ENTER. You're now in the dialog where you can do things like check for updates, pause updates for seven days, etc. If you press the "Check for updates" button and your system tells you you're up to date, then there's something either on or in your system that can't be updated to the latest version of Windows 10, or any later versions than your current version for that matter. You also may not be getting updated because during the hours you've chosen for those updates to be applied, your computer is off or offline. You can force the update(s) to happen by tabbing through the updates dialog and finding a list of available updates chosen for your system, then tabbing to the download or "install" button immediately after that list. HTH On 7/14/2020 6:17 PM, Gary Ketler wrote: I never received the 1909 updates. I guess I’m out of luck. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 There's nothing to check. Updates are no longer an option in Windows 10. That is, you can't say you don't want them. The best you can cd is pause them for seven days. On 7/14/2020 4:23 PM, Madison Martin wrote: > How do I check to see if automatic updates are inabled? > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee > Sent: July 14, 2020 3:21 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: Windows 10 question > > Hi, > The fastest way to find out what Windows 10 release you are using is: Start > menu, type "winver" (without quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line that > starts with "Version". > As for automatic updates: yes, it is advised to keep this enabled. In the past, > people gave conflicting advice in regards to keeping automatic updates on or > off, mainly because of concern that you may find yourself upgraded to more > recent Windows 10 release (termed "feature updates"). Times have changed since > then - Microsoft will not install new Windows 10 feature updates (releases) > unless your system (hardware and software) is deemed compatible with the new > update. > Although the following will not directly address automatic updates question > posed, it provides a short overview on what is happening with feature updates > (source: the Win10 forum I mentioned earlier): > https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu > re+updates,100,2,0,74554449 > Cheers, > Joseph > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Windows 10 question > > Hi again all, > Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm > running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates > turned on? Thanks Madison
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Re: duck duck go browser
Steve, Judy and All:
I dug up my Chrome tutorial and was able to make DuckDuckGo the search engine.Am I done or do I need to download anything from DuckDuckGo?
Thank you,
Margaret
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On 7/14/2020 9:10 PM, Margaret Thomas wrote: Thanks, Judy. I saw Steve's post before yours and Google Chrome is my default browser. I think Google is currently the search engine, but must double check.
Margaret
On 7/14/2020 8:37 PM, Judy wrote:
Hi, Duck duck go is not a browser, it is a search engine. I use
google chrome as my browser and duck duck tgo as my search engine.
Judy
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent:
Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re:
duck duck go browser
Mike and All:
It's been a long morning and I'm probably missing something obvious,
but using the link in the post, I'm not finding a way of downloading DuckDuckGo as a browser on Windows 10 Pro with JAWS 2020.
Google Chrome is my default browser. Am I correct that if, I want
to make Chrome more private, I should get the DuckDuckGo Chrome
extension? And it's at the Chrome store? And I don't need an
extension for DuckDuckGo as a browser?
Any help straightening me out will be greatly appreciated.
Margaret
On 6/24/2020 12:04 PM, Mike B wrote:
Here you go: https://duckduckgo.com/install
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. I don't know the key to
success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. -----
Original Message ----- *From:* kevin meyers
<mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:06
AM *Subject:* duck duck go browser
Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t
able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser.
Cheers, Kevin
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Re: duck duck go browser
Thanks, Judy. I saw Steve's post before yours and Google Chrome is my default browser. I think Google is currently the search engine, but must double check.
Margaret
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On 7/14/2020 8:37 PM, Judy wrote: Hi, Duck duck go is not a browser, it is a search engine. I use
google chrome as my browser and duck duck tgo as my search engine.
Judy
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent:
Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re:
duck duck go browser
Mike and All:
It's been a long morning and I'm probably missing something obvious,
but using the link in the post, I'm not finding a way of downloading DuckDuckGo as a browser on Windows 10 Pro with JAWS 2020.
Google Chrome is my default browser. Am I correct that if, I want
to make Chrome more private, I should get the DuckDuckGo Chrome
extension? And it's at the Chrome store? And I don't need an
extension for DuckDuckGo as a browser?
Any help straightening me out will be greatly appreciated.
Margaret
On 6/24/2020 12:04 PM, Mike B wrote:
Here you go: https://duckduckgo.com/install
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. I don't know the key to
success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* kevin meyers
<mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:06
AM *Subject:* duck duck go browser
Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t
able to find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser.
Cheers, Kevin
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Re: duck duck go browser
Thank you, Steve. I'm running a version of Firefox before 78 and with all the Firefox problems, I think it's best not to add anything to it in case it makes things worse. Chrome is my default browser. Before I try to do the Chrome equivalent of your instructions should I get the DuckDuckGo extension for Chrome? It looked like the extension was at the Google store and not on the DuckDuckGo page when I looked this morning. Is this correct?
Your help is very much appreciated.
Margaret
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On 7/14/2020 8:19 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: That's because it's not a browser. It's a search engine. The instructions talk about clicking on a magnifying glass in a search bar, but none of that is accessible to us screenreader user types. So instead, do this in Firefox, or the applicable thing in your Web browser of choice:
1. Open Firefox.
2. Open the Tools menu with Alt plus T.
3. In the search field type:
search engine
and press ENTER. You could type just the word "search," but that yields too many choices.
4. If you like, read the resulting page, or just shortcut the whole process by finding the combo box that shows your current default search engine.
5. To change it, tap the space bar or press ENTER, then use the vertical (Up/Down) arrow keys to select Duck Duck Go, and press ENTER to close the combo box, which will save your change.
All done.
On 7/14/2020 11:12 AM, Margaret Thomas wrote:
Mike and All:
It's been a long morning and I'm probably missing something obvious, but using the link in the post, I'm not finding a way of downloading DuckDuckGo as a browser on Windows 10 Pro with JAWS 2020.
Google Chrome is my default browser. Am I correct that if, I want to make Chrome more private, I should get the DuckDuckGo Chrome extension? And it's at the Chrome store? And I don't need an extension for DuckDuckGo as a browser?
Any help straightening me out will be greatly appreciated.
Margaret
On 6/24/2020 12:04 PM, Mike B wrote:
Here you go:
https://duckduckgo.com/install
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: Braille Display still on while the computer is off
I just discovered that. ![JAWS Certified, 2019]()
Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia www.nfbv.org Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
www.hadley.edu
I think you lost some of your message, or I'm just too tired to understand what you are asking.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting
grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
forward to hear from you.
Best regards
Michael Munn
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Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view
So would that mean I would have to purchase a webcamera?
Rick Miller
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view In the Zoom book from Carol Center it gives the keystrokes alt+f2, and to switch to speaker view is alt+f1. You can also tab to these settings, a third one being full screen. the book points out that if video is turned off, so are gallery view and speaker view. At 03:47 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote: I tried that too, but it didn't work.
Rick Miller
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom
I read somewhere that ctrl+f2 would do it.
At 01:26 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
Okay, but does anybody know how to get into the Gallery view?
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom
Hi. I can answer a couple of your questions.
First, you get to the participant list by pressing alt-U. You have
to tab around until you get to the list of names; then you can arrow
up and down. This is somewhat buggy. They claim they're going to fix
it so that every time you get into the participant list you'll be
put in the list of names by default, but they haven't fixed it yet.
To chat with a participant, you have to open the chat panel. You do
this by pressing alt-H. That opens the chat panel. You then tab
around until you find the names of participants and press enter on
the name of the person you want to chat with. By default it's set to
send a chat to everyone.
Hope this helps.
John Riehl
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Zoom
Dear Listers:
I am taking part in a class at church via Zoom. I know how to join
a meeting and how to mute and unmute my microphone, but there are a
few things I am having problems with. First, when you join a
meeting, how do you get to the Gallery view using JAWS? Also, when
I get to the list of participants JAWS won't read the list whenever
I arrow up and down. Also, I know there is a spot where it says,
"Find a participant." I assume you enter the person's name and then
the person's name will show. But if you want to send a message to
that participant, how do you do it? Whenever I find the "Find
Participant," link and enter the person's name, when I tab again it
just gives me the option to either clear the search or cancel. So
what does this mean?
Rick Miller
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Re: duck duck go browser
Hi, Duck duck go is not a browser, it is a search engine. I use google
chrome as my browser and duck duck tgo as my search engine. Judy
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-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: duck duck go browser Mike and All: It's been a long morning and I'm probably missing something obvious, but using the link in the post, I'm not finding a way of downloading DuckDuckGo as a browser on Windows 10 Pro with JAWS 2020. Google Chrome is my default browser. Am I correct that if, I want to make Chrome more private, I should get the DuckDuckGo Chrome extension? And it's at the Chrome store? And I don't need an extension for DuckDuckGo as a browser? Any help straightening me out will be greatly appreciated. Margaret On 6/24/2020 12:04 PM, Mike B wrote: Here you go:
https://duckduckgo.com/install
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to
please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* kevin meyers <mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 24, 2020 6:06 AM
*Subject:* duck duck go browser
Hello, Is duck duck go only an extension to a browser? I wasn’t able to
find the duck duck go browser that is just the browser. Cheers, Kevin
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Re: JAWS and Zoom
The book is
Getting Started with Zoom Meetings:
A Guide for JAWS, NVDA, and iPhone VoiceOver Users
By Heather Thomas
It costs $18, and is very helpful.
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Re: Windows 10 question
From https://insider.windows.com/en-us/articles/were-listening-to-you:As many of you know, the feature updates for Windows 10 occur twice a year. A feature update includes upgrading Windows to the latest version with enhanced features, security improvements, and more. A feature update is different from the quality updates that are release on Patch Tuesday. Quality updates are mostly security fixes and are installed after one reboot, whereas feature updates are installed in steps that require more than one reboot to complete. There are four phases in a feature update installation. Online phases occur while the device is being used and the operating system is running, which means tasks are happening in the background without disrupting you. Offline phases on the other hand can disrupt you, since the device can’t be used. For the Creators Update in April 2017, the average offline time for a user was about 82 minutes.
On 7/14/2020 7:28 PM, Mario wrote: what is the difference between feature updates and quality updates?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 5:37 PM
Subject: Windows 10 question
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 05:19 PM, Mario wrote:
isn't it a bit redundant?
At this point in time, and with the changes to how Feature Updates are
applied, the answer to that is, "Yes."
But, if one wishes to postpone other Windows Updates (and I think that
critical updates are never able to be delayed) one can use those
settings. The Pause for 7 days is just the default pause. It says
right beneath if you wish to have a longer period then use the advanced
features to set the time span (up to 35 days).
In advanced settings you also have the option to postpone Feature
Updates from even being presented for up to 1 year (365 days) and
quality updates from being downloaded and applied for up to a month (30
days).
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Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view
In the Zoom book from Carol Center it gives the keystrokes alt+f2, and to switch to speaker view is alt+f1. You can also tab to these settings, a third one being full screen. the book points out that if video is turned off, so are gallery view and speaker view.
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At 03:47 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote: I tried that too, but it didn't work.
Rick Miller
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom
I read somewhere that ctrl+f2 would do it.
At 01:26 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
Okay, but does anybody know how to get into the Gallery view?
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom
Hi. I can answer a couple of your questions.
First, you get to the participant list by pressing alt-U. You have
to tab around until you get to the list of names; then you can arrow
up and down. This is somewhat buggy. They claim they're going to fix
it so that every time you get into the participant list you'll be
put in the list of names by default, but they haven't fixed it yet.
To chat with a participant, you have to open the chat panel. You do
this by pressing alt-H. That opens the chat panel. You then tab
around until you find the names of participants and press enter on
the name of the person you want to chat with. By default it's set to
send a chat to everyone.
Hope this helps.
John Riehl
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Zoom
Dear Listers:
I am taking part in a class at church via Zoom. I know how to join
a meeting and how to mute and unmute my microphone, but there are a
few things I am having problems with. First, when you join a
meeting, how do you get to the Gallery view using JAWS? Also, when
I get to the list of participants JAWS won't read the list whenever
I arrow up and down. Also, I know there is a spot where it says,
"Find a participant." I assume you enter the person's name and then
the person's name will show. But if you want to send a message to
that participant, how do you do it? Whenever I find the "Find
Participant," link and enter the person's name, when I tab again it
just gives me the option to either clear the search or cancel. So
what does this mean?
Rick Miller
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