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Which works best with jaws13, office 07 or 10?

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Hi all I think the subject says it all, I want to know which office
works best with jaws 13, is it 2007 or 2010? I mostly use outlook and
word but also use excel. I currently have 2007 and have the option to
upgrade to 2010 with no cost to me, but don't want to update if 2010
doesn't work properly.


Re: Which works best with jaws13, office 07 or 10?

Allen Stutts <astutts@...>
 

Essentially they both work the same, but I have an issue with the Jaws dictionary not working for a specific entry in Word 2010 that it did work for in both Word XP and Word 2007 which has been escalated to the development department at FS.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Nokia N95 <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Feb 28, 2012 11:54 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Which works best with jaws13, office 07 or 10?

Either.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Which works best with jaws13, office 07 or 10?
From: Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com>
Date: 02-28-2012 08:29

Hi all I think the subject says it all, I want to know which office
works best with jaws 13, is it 2007 or 2010? I mostly use outlook and
word but also use excel. I currently have 2007 and have the option to
upgrade to 2010 with no cost to me, but don't want to update if 2010
doesn't work properly.


Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Dave...
 

I stand corrected -- upright, of course. Thank you for the clear correction
to my error.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 20:18
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


Not in XP. Go to start menu with the Windows key or control+escape, then
press escape by itself. The tab key will take you to the task bar. Arrowing
up or down lists the running programs, and you can press enter on the one
you want. No need to minimize all windows.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Nokia N95
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

That presumes that all the wimdows are minimized.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 02-27-2012 17:27

Or use the task bar.
At 06:51 PM 2/27/2012, you wrote:
Sorry! I just sent a message asking about how to do this. Cool! Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Being Himself"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Adrian,

Yes, the process of Window order is always a hassle, even for me who
knows what's going on. I guess the better solution if you have several
Windows open, is to get used to using the Insert +F10 key to bring up
the list of all open Windows.

Quite frankly I forget to use it, and lose lots of time searching for
an open Window amongst 10 or more during my workday.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:31
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when
they delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message
list, it turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your
previous rotation cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out",
but that wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means
"First In First Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when
you reverse tab you go back to the previous window before going beyond
to a different window. So I guess I was actually very wrong -- it is
really more LIFO which is "Last In First Out".


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message----- From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab
vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking
Shift+Alt+of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: "Claudia"
<cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab
back and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Adrian Spratt
 

Not in XP. Go to start menu with the Windows key or control+escape, then
press escape by itself. The tab key will take you to the task bar. Arrowing
up or down lists the running programs, and you can press enter on the one
you want. No need to minimize all windows.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Nokia N95
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

That presumes that all the wimdows are minimized.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 02-27-2012 17:27

Or use the task bar.
At 06:51 PM 2/27/2012, you wrote:
Sorry! I just sent a message asking about how to do this. Cool! Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Being Himself"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Adrian,

Yes, the process of Window order is always a hassle, even for me who
knows what's going on. I guess the better solution if you have several
Windows open, is to get used to using the Insert +F10 key to bring up
the list of all open Windows.

Quite frankly I forget to use it, and lose lots of time searching for
an open Window amongst 10 or more during my workday.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
<Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:31
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when
they delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message
list, it turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your
previous rotation cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out",
but that wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means
"First In First Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when
you reverse tab you go back to the previous window before going beyond
to a different window. So I guess I was actually very wrong -- it is
really more LIFO which is "Last In First Out".


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message----- From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab
vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking
Shift+Alt+of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western
United States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: "Claudia"
<cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab
back and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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Re: bypass

Soronel Haetir
 

I wonder if the TypeKey function is capable of generating a pure ctrl
key event. There's also SimulateKey and DoNativeKey.

On 2/27/12, CM54 <crismunoz54@gmail.com> wrote:
If they have to be concecutive and you know that there isn't anything else
you have to do inbetween, why don't you unload and reload Jaws once you're
done exicuting the two commands? I know that there's also the silence Jaws
layerd keystroke command, but I don't know if doing that instead would also
enable you to bypass the Jaws stuff or if it's really just to shut Jaws up.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: bypass

Good question!

I want to pass 2 keystrokes, which need to be delivered in rapid succession
through.
To activate a feature in a programme, I need to press ctrl twice quickly.
Obviously, jaws interprets ctrl as silence.

However, I'm concerned that pressing ins + 3 after the first ctrl has been
passed through will prevent the prog from recognizing the command.

Help please

On 2/23/12, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,



I know about the bypass key insert+3. But is there anyway to turn this
bypass feature on so it stays on until I turn it off?

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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Dave...
 

That presumes that all the wimdows are minimized.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 02-27-2012 17:27

Or use the task bar.
At 06:51 PM 2/27/2012, you wrote:
Sorry! I just sent a message asking about how to do this. Cool! Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Being Himself"
<dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Adrian,

Yes, the process of Window order is always a hassle, even for me who knows
what's going on. I guess the better solution if you have several Windows
open, is to get used to using the Insert +F10 key to bring up the list of
all open Windows.

Quite frankly I forget to use it, and lose lots of time searching for an
open Window amongst 10 or more during my workday.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:31
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when they
delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message list, it
turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your previous rotation
cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In First
Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab you go
back to the previous window before going beyond to a different window. So I
guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which is "Last In
First Out".


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message----- From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: "Claudia" <cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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Re: screen resolution

Dave...
 

Soronel, you may have hit on something there. My Dell has an HDMI port and also a docking port that each could use a mirror driver.tif I don't see any significant improvement in performance, I'll chalk it up to just a learning experience. No doubt the next upgrade will put back that driver.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: Re: screen resolution
From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
Date: 02-27-2012 17:18

It occurs to me that the reason there might be three is that FS might
be attaching them to the display ports rather than the cards. My
video board does in fact have three possible outputs. I wouldn't even
be surprised if a modern laptop had that many (the screen plus either
s-vga or s-video and hdmi).

On 2/27/12, Farfar Being Himself <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Adrian,

Working just fine so far. I still need to run CCleaner to see if I can cut
out all instances of that Dame Dameware driver.

Of course I haven't seen JAWS magically improve, either. but so far, so
good.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:26
Subject: RE: screen resolution


Dave, please let us know the results of your experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

David,

Very interesting. I went to look, and I had one copy of Dameware Mirror
Driver (which I've always exorcised as soon as I detect it), and two copies
of Freedom Scientific. So I've deleted the Dameware and one of the Freedom
Scientifics. Let's see how things go. Nice bit of sleuthing!


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 13:23
Subject: RE: screen resolution


Hello there;

Speaking of screen resolution,
I found something interesting on one of my clients computer today.

I went into the device manager,
Display drivers,
And I found 3 instances of the freedom scientific mirror drivers.
Well, I deleted 2, and, just like that,
All the stuttering, disappeared.
I set her screen resolution to 50%
And crossing my fingers, all will go well.
Why would there be 3 copies of the mirror drivers?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

The list I gave you are standard resolutions, not specific to JAWS users,
and I haven't seen any documentation by FS on this issue since the days of
CRT monitors, which is what I still have, by the way.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: screen resolution


Hey Bill,

Thanks for the excellent list.

Are those generic recommendations (including sighted users), or are they
specific to people using JAWS?

I've seen manufacturers provide monitor drivers that run at "preferred"
resolutions (laptop screen drivers can be particularly aggressive in
insisting on running at their "native" optimal resolution).

It may just be "lore" in the accessible tech community, but I heard a
consultant say that if one is having problems with JAWS, that changing to a
"standard" monitor resolution, or even using a monitor that has its "native"

resolution at 1280x1024 is "better".

Do you know if FS has any useful documentation on this issue?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:40:14 -0800
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Bill White"
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>)
Subject: Re: screen resolution
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

It depends on the size of your monitor. Here are some common ones.

Monitor size

Recommended resolution (in pixels)

19-inch standard ratio LCD monitor
1280 × 1024
...


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Re: bypass

Cristóbal
 

If they have to be concecutive and you know that there isn't anything else
you have to do inbetween, why don't you unload and reload Jaws once you're
done exicuting the two commands? I know that there's also the silence Jaws
layerd keystroke command, but I don't know if doing that instead would also
enable you to bypass the Jaws stuff or if it's really just to shut Jaws up.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: bypass

Good question!

I want to pass 2 keystrokes, which need to be delivered in rapid succession
through.
To activate a feature in a programme, I need to press ctrl twice quickly.
Obviously, jaws interprets ctrl as silence.

However, I'm concerned that pressing ins + 3 after the first ctrl has been
passed through will prevent the prog from recognizing the command.

Help please

On 2/23/12, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,



I know about the bypass key insert+3. But is there anyway to turn this
bypass feature on so it stays on until I turn it off?

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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Ann Byrne
 

Or use the task bar.

At 06:51 PM 2/27/2012, you wrote:
Sorry! I just sent a message asking about how to do this. Cool! Thanks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Being Himself" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Adrian,

Yes, the process of Window order is always a hassle, even for me who knows
what's going on. I guess the better solution if you have several Windows
open, is to get used to using the Insert +F10 key to bring up the list of
all open Windows.

Quite frankly I forget to use it, and lose lots of time searching for an
open Window amongst 10 or more during my workday.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:31
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when they
delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message list, it
turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your previous rotation
cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In First
Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab you go
back to the previous window before going beyond to a different window. So I
guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which is "Last In
First Out".


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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message ----- From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message----- From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
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Re: volume

Dondi
 

Hi David,

Thanks, for all the help this worked for me and I was able to even get
sndvol on to my task bar this way.

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of David
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: volume

Hello there;

Well, not sure why you can't do it the way I suggested, So give this a try;

1, desktop,

2, ctrl+spacebar to unselect any icon,

3, press application key,
Down arrow and enter on,
New sub menu,
Now arrow and choose shortcut,
Now type in,
Sndvol.exe
Tab next enter,
You will see, sndvol.exe
Tab finish enter.
Now try the shortcut which should be on desktop.

Same steps apply to create hotkey.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: volume

did so, I only get copy cut and paste unavailable.
Nothing else. Use application key.
-----Original Message-----
From: David
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:03 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: volume

Hello there;

Well,
Here's a way you can put sndvol on the desktop,

1, windows-key your placed in the search edit field,


2, type;
Sndvol

3, you will hear sndvol,
Press applications key,
Up arrow to SendTo,sub-menu,
Either press enter or right arrow to open, Down arrow and enter on desktop
create shortcut.
You now have icon on desktop,
Now, yu can create hotkey by highlighting Sndvol, Bring up properties,
Alt+enter,
Tab over to,
Shortcut key none,
And for example, you could type, the letter "v"=volume, And then press
enter.

Now, by pressing the alt+ctrl+v,
The volume mixer will open.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 5:50 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: volume

did so did not work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dondi
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:26 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: volume

Hi David,

Do you know how I can get sndvol as a shortcut on my start menu? I can
launch sndvol from start menu search edit box but it never appears as a
shortcut on the start menu. I'm using Windows 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:26 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Re: volume

Hi Holger,
to pin the volume mixer to the taskbar:
1. open the start menu, and type sndvol.
2. press the application key to open the context menu of the selected
shortcut of sndvol on the start menu 3. choose pin to taskbar from the menu.

David.

original message:
Hi,How do I pin volume to the task next to IE, window media player? Using
jaws 13, window home 64.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: screen resolution

Soronel Haetir
 

It occurs to me that the reason there might be three is that FS might
be attaching them to the display ports rather than the cards. My
video board does in fact have three possible outputs. I wouldn't even
be surprised if a modern laptop had that many (the screen plus either
s-vga or s-video and hdmi).

On 2/27/12, Farfar Being Himself <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Adrian,

Working just fine so far. I still need to run CCleaner to see if I can cut
out all instances of that Dame Dameware driver.

Of course I haven't seen JAWS magically improve, either. but so far, so
good.

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:26
Subject: RE: screen resolution


Dave, please let us know the results of your experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

David,

Very interesting. I went to look, and I had one copy of Dameware Mirror
Driver (which I've always exorcised as soon as I detect it), and two copies
of Freedom Scientific. So I've deleted the Dameware and one of the Freedom
Scientifics. Let's see how things go. Nice bit of sleuthing!


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----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 13:23
Subject: RE: screen resolution


Hello there;

Speaking of screen resolution,
I found something interesting on one of my clients computer today.

I went into the device manager,
Display drivers,
And I found 3 instances of the freedom scientific mirror drivers.
Well, I deleted 2, and, just like that,
All the stuttering, disappeared.
I set her screen resolution to 50%
And crossing my fingers, all will go well.
Why would there be 3 copies of the mirror drivers?


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

The list I gave you are standard resolutions, not specific to JAWS users,
and I haven't seen any documentation by FS on this issue since the days of
CRT monitors, which is what I still have, by the way.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: screen resolution


Hey Bill,

Thanks for the excellent list.

Are those generic recommendations (including sighted users), or are they
specific to people using JAWS?

I've seen manufacturers provide monitor drivers that run at "preferred"
resolutions (laptop screen drivers can be particularly aggressive in
insisting on running at their "native" optimal resolution).

It may just be "lore" in the accessible tech community, but I heard a
consultant say that if one is having problems with JAWS, that changing to a
"standard" monitor resolution, or even using a monitor that has its "native"

resolution at 1280x1024 is "better".

Do you know if FS has any useful documentation on this issue?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:40:14 -0800
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Bill White"
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>)
Subject: Re: screen resolution
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

It depends on the size of your monitor. Here are some common ones.

Monitor size

Recommended resolution (in pixels)

19-inch standard ratio LCD monitor
1280 × 1024
...


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Re: bypass

wogg le4 <woggle4@...>
 

Good question!

I want to pass 2 keystrokes, which need to be delivered in rapid
succession through.
To activate a feature in a programme, I need to press ctrl twice quickly.
Obviously, jaws interprets ctrl as silence.

However, I'm concerned that pressing ins + 3 after the first ctrl has
been passed through will prevent the prog from recognizing the
command.

Help please

On 2/23/12, Dondi <zidnod63@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone,



I know about the bypass key insert+3. But is there anyway to turn this
bypass feature on so it stays on until I turn it off?

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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Dave...
 

Not that I know about. They stack in the order you first open them, the
newest window always stacking on top. Then as you Alt tab and Shift Alt Tab
around the order gets totally messed up.


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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:50
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Before this thread I didn't even realize you could cycle in the opposite
direction with control shift tab. What I'm wondering now is this... Is
there any way to arrange where in the rotation programs show up? For
instance, if you have several different windows open at once, is there any
way to make certain ones appear first as you move from window to window,
forward or backward?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when they
delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message list, it
turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your previous rotation
cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but
that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In
First
Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab you
go
back to the previous window before going beyond to a different window. So
I
guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which is "Last
In
First Out".


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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab
vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

deadcatbounce <JAWS@...>
 

Sorry! I just sent a message asking about how to do this. Cool! Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Adrian,

Yes, the process of Window order is always a hassle, even for me who knows
what's going on. I guess the better solution if you have several Windows
open, is to get used to using the Insert +F10 key to bring up the list of
all open Windows.

Quite frankly I forget to use it, and lose lots of time searching for an
open Window amongst 10 or more during my workday.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:31
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when they
delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message list, it
turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your previous rotation
cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In First
Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab you go
back to the previous window before going beyond to a different window. So I
guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which is "Last In
First Out".


Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudia" <cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

deadcatbounce <JAWS@...>
 

Before this thread I didn't even realize you could cycle in the opposite direction with control shift tab. What I'm wondering now is this... Is there any way to arrange where in the rotation programs show up? For instance, if you have several different windows open at once, is there any way to make certain ones appear first as you move from window to window, forward or backward?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when they
delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message list, it
turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your previous rotation
cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In First
Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab you go
back to the previous window before going beyond to a different window. So I
guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which is "Last In
First Out".


Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudia" <cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Dave...
 

Adrian,

Yes, the process of Window order is always a hassle, even for me who knows
what's going on. I guess the better solution if you have several Windows
open, is to get used to using the Insert +F10 key to bring up the list of
all open Windows.

Quite frankly I forget to use it, and lose lots of time searching for an
open Window amongst 10 or more during my workday.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:31
Subject: RE: Tabbing with JFW!


But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when they
delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message list, it
turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your previous rotation
cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In First
Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab you go
back to the previous window before going beyond to a different window. So I
guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which is "Last In
First Out".


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudia" <cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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Re: screen resolution

Dave...
 

Adrian,

Working just fine so far. I still need to run CCleaner to see if I can cut
out all instances of that Dame Dameware driver.

Of course I haven't seen JAWS magically improve, either. but so far, so
good.

Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 16:26
Subject: RE: screen resolution


Dave, please let us know the results of your experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

David,

Very interesting. I went to look, and I had one copy of Dameware Mirror
Driver (which I've always exorcised as soon as I detect it), and two copies
of Freedom Scientific. So I've deleted the Dameware and one of the Freedom
Scientifics. Let's see how things go. Nice bit of sleuthing!


Dave Carlson
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States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 13:23
Subject: RE: screen resolution


Hello there;

Speaking of screen resolution,
I found something interesting on one of my clients computer today.

I went into the device manager,
Display drivers,
And I found 3 instances of the freedom scientific mirror drivers.
Well, I deleted 2, and, just like that,
All the stuttering, disappeared.
I set her screen resolution to 50%
And crossing my fingers, all will go well.
Why would there be 3 copies of the mirror drivers?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

The list I gave you are standard resolutions, not specific to JAWS users,
and I haven't seen any documentation by FS on this issue since the days of
CRT monitors, which is what I still have, by the way.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: screen resolution


Hey Bill,

Thanks for the excellent list.

Are those generic recommendations (including sighted users), or are they
specific to people using JAWS?

I've seen manufacturers provide monitor drivers that run at "preferred"
resolutions (laptop screen drivers can be particularly aggressive in
insisting on running at their "native" optimal resolution).

It may just be "lore" in the accessible tech community, but I heard a
consultant say that if one is having problems with JAWS, that changing to a
"standard" monitor resolution, or even using a monitor that has its "native"

resolution at 1280x1024 is "better".

Do you know if FS has any useful documentation on this issue?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:40:14 -0800
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Bill White"
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>)
Subject: Re: screen resolution
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

It depends on the size of your monitor. Here are some common ones.

Monitor size

Recommended resolution (in pixels)

19-inch standard ratio LCD monitor
1280 × 1024
...


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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Adrian Spratt
 

But, as Bill White pointed out, as soon as you start alt-tabbing, the
sequence changes. I imagine new JAWS users getting very confused when they
delete an email message and instead of focus going to the message list, it
turns, say, to MS Word. Where focus goes depends on your previous rotation
cycle.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In First
Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab you go
back to the previous window before going beyond to a different window. So I
guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which is "Last In
First Out".


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudia" <cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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Re: screen resolution

Adrian Spratt
 

Dave, please let us know the results of your experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Being Himself
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

David,

Very interesting. I went to look, and I had one copy of Dameware Mirror
Driver (which I've always exorcised as soon as I detect it), and two copies
of Freedom Scientific. So I've deleted the Dameware and one of the Freedom
Scientifics. Let's see how things go. Nice bit of sleuthing!


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 13:23
Subject: RE: screen resolution


Hello there;

Speaking of screen resolution,
I found something interesting on one of my clients computer today.

I went into the device manager,
Display drivers,
And I found 3 instances of the freedom scientific mirror drivers.
Well, I deleted 2, and, just like that,
All the stuttering, disappeared.
I set her screen resolution to 50%
And crossing my fingers, all will go well.
Why would there be 3 copies of the mirror drivers?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: screen resolution

The list I gave you are standard resolutions, not specific to JAWS users,
and I haven't seen any documentation by FS on this issue since the days of
CRT monitors, which is what I still have, by the way.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <epierce@surewest.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: screen resolution


Hey Bill,

Thanks for the excellent list.

Are those generic recommendations (including sighted users), or are they
specific to people using JAWS?

I've seen manufacturers provide monitor drivers that run at "preferred"
resolutions (laptop screen drivers can be particularly aggressive in
insisting on running at their "native" optimal resolution).

It may just be "lore" in the accessible tech community, but I heard a
consultant say that if one is having problems with JAWS, that changing to a
"standard" monitor resolution, or even using a monitor that has its "native"

resolution at 1280x1024 is "better".

Do you know if FS has any useful documentation on this issue?

---- Original message ----
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:40:14 -0800
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Bill White"
<billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>)
Subject: Re: screen resolution
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

It depends on the size of your monitor. Here are some common ones.

Monitor size

Recommended resolution (in pixels)

19-inch standard ratio LCD monitor
1280 × 1024
...


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Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Dave...
 

Rik,

Well, at first I would suggest that FIFO means "Farfar Is Far Out", but that
wouldn't be the widespread meaning of that acronym. It means "First In
First Out" and I used it loosely to let you know that when you reverse tab
you go back to the previous window before going beyond to a different
window. So I guess I was actually very wrong -- it is really more LIFO which
is "Last In First Out".


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7

----- Original Message -----
From: <rixmix2009@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 14:47
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!


Sorry.
What is FIFO?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks.
Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar in the Sawdust
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tabbing with JFW!

Not a JAWS problem. Bear in mind that if you switch directions (Alt+Tab vs..
Shift+Alt+Tab) you need to consider the FIFO approach to the stacking of
open applications.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and transmitted from somewhere in the Western United
States, using a Dell Latitude E6520 and Windows 7


----- Original Message -----
From: "Claudia" <cdelreal1973@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 14:40
Subject: Tabbing with JFW!


Hi,

In Jaws 12 and Windows 7, is there a problem with being able to tab back
and forth, from different applications?
It seems that on this particular laptop, Alt Tab does not allow you to
tab from application to application. Is this a known Jaws problem?
Thanks.



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