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Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Chuck & Virgil,

Below is an article that talks about screen reader reading speeds.
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Listening Speeds Approximation with Window-Eyes and JAWS Screen Reader
Practice Text Documents


Listening Speeds Approximation with Window-Eyes and JAWS

Methodology

In order to determine an approximate words-per-minute test for a screen
reader, we used this process:

1. The screen reader's speed was set to a chosen percentage.

2. A long document was selected of sufficient length for the "Read All"

command to be invoked without running out of text in a two-minute reading
session.

3. A timer was set for two minutes.

4. The timer and the "Read All" command were invoked at the same time.

5. The "Read All" command was stopped when the timer expired.

6. The rest of the document was selected and deleted.

7. The Microsoft Word "Word Count" command was invoked.

8. The number of characters without spaces were found.

9. This number was placed into Windows Calculator.

10. The number was divided by 5 to obtain an approximate average length of
five characters. (Five characters is the average word length in American
English.)

11. The result of this was divided by two to obtain average words per
minute.

12. The deleted text was restored and the process repeated for another
speed
rate.

Known factors which influence speed outcomes:

1. By default, the screen reader pauses for a fraction of a second at
sentence punctuation marks, such as commas and periods, in order to give a
better reading experience. This would tend to give a slightly slower average
speed for each percentage.

2. In calculating the number of characters, punctuation of all kinds,
including quotation marks, dashes, and sentence punctuation and other
printable characters were included (spaces were excluded). This would tend
to give a higher character count, and therefore, a higher average speed.
Though this has not been tested, the assumption is that the two variables
tend to cancel out one another.

3. Different versions of the Eloquence synthesizer have yielded different
results. Both Window-Eyes and JAWS have included a proprietary version of
Eloquence within their screen reader in recent releases. These versions have
yielded higher rates from the nonproprietary versions.

4. Probably related to the previous point, we found that current versions
of these two screen readers produced markedly different reading rates at the
same percentages.

The test was performed for Window-Eyes 7 and JAWS 11 with their own
proprietary version of Eloquence.

Comparison Tables

Percent

Window-Eyes 7

JAWS 11

60%

346.3

524.7

50%

251.6

437.4

40%

196.5

344.5

30%

135.3

284.1

20%

107.8

224


Percent

NVDA

95%

400

58%

300

27%

200

NVDA: Non-Visual Desktop Access

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: ckrugman@...
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?


as I stated previously JAWS used to show the actual rate and I recall
thatat
rate 95 ]\= 50% and when it actually showed the word count it was at 350
WPM. If you have any earlier versions of JAWS you might go back to them
and
experiment with the settings under voices in the options menu to find out
more about word rates.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?


> How do you determine the WPM, since the rate is shown in percentages?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
> On Behalf Of ckrugman@...
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:09 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
> Subject: Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?
>
> I use it at about 350wpm and sometimes a bit higher.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@...>
> To: "JAWS Information List" <jfw@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:52 AM
> Subject: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?
>
>
>> Dear elf,
>> Oh my, you mean you can read JAWS at 500 words per minute?
>>
>> I know the 300 Words Per Minute I am currently using was not as fast as
I
>> could use JAWS and comprehend pretty well, Perhaps I might go 400 Words
>> per minute and with Practice be able to comprehend pretty well, but 500
>> words per minute?
>> Never!
>>
>> And yes, I was sighted and I do not think I ever read at 400 words a
>> minute with eyesight.
>>
>> Just for my information, which I will gratefully appreciate, how fast
do
>> most of you fine folks use JAWS?
>> At Home?
>> At Work?
>>
>> Thanks for any input!
>>
>> With Best Regards,
>> Alan
>> Miami, Florida
>> Alan Dicey, President
>> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
>> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
>> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
>> http://AmericanBlindChess.org
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>
>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?
>>
>>
>>> having been fully sighted I can answer this, the sighted world doesn't
>>> know how to handle multiple inputs! simple and to the point...
>>>
>>> for the main part everything in the "normal" world is based on the
>>> written word, it doesn't matter for the main part that not everyone
>>> learns well from the written word, that's the way its done.
>>>
>>> so much so that I wasn't hearing half of what was going on around me
>>> sound wise when I had my site, and had to relearn how to focus on
sound
>>> in order to get past the noise filters I had developed in my mind.
>>> luckily the human body will assist you with that when its deprived of
>>> its
>
>>> main sensory input.
>>>
>>> and I was a mechanic, so was used to "using my ears" in assistance to
>>> diagnosing problems with gas and diesel engines
>>>
>>> not well done, but its how it's done out there
>>>
>>> so they have no motivation, nor the trained in capacity to use the
>>> "additional" input presented by programs like jaws and such,
absolutely
>>> none, another bad point is at the rate of reading I had, which was
about
>>> 500 words a minute, I would not have been able to make much sense out
of
>>> what would have been coming out of the speakers if the speech program
>>> was
>
>>> trying to keep up with my visual reading speed
>>>
>>> elf
>>> . Moderator, Blind Access Help.
>>> . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>> "own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>> . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
>>> for blind computer users and Programmers!
>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
>>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list"
<jfw@...>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, because Jaws doesn't even write by itself...
>>>> If Jaws can't complete it, it's because your fingers are unable to
move
>>>> over the keys to complete it...
>>>> And anyone on this list should be able to identify the difference
>>>> between "Text to speech" and "Speech to text." JFW is the first one!
:)
>>>> I'm wondering why can't or don't sighted people use JFW regularly?
It's
>>>> so much faster using Jaws to read than it is to use your eyes. I'd
>>>> think
>
>>>> using both your eyes and your ears would make for extraordinary
speeds
>>>> on the computer...
>>>> Also when reading books, I can get through one and a half 400 page
book
>>>> in a day if I just read on my travel time, so why couldn't products
for
>>>> the blind get legalized for sighted people and mainstreamed?
>>>> Just a random question that I've never been able to comprehend never
>>>> being sighted...
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>
>>>> Check out
>>>> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs
>>>> Also add me on facebook!
>>>> brandonkeith
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=675097942
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>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:10 PM
>>>> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'"
>>>> <jfw@...>
>>>> Subject: RE: [Bulk] what is this?
>>>>
>>>>> I think he's using jaw bridge or that voice recognition programs and
>>>>> jfw
>>>>> simultaneously.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: jfw-bounces@...
>>>>> [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:13 PM
>>>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it's one of those great universal puzzles that we're just
not
>>>>> suppose to ever comprehend.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
>>>>> To: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>; "The Jaws for
Windows
>>>>> support mailing list" <jfw@...>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a lot more polite than what I was thinking about that
>>>>>> particular message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/28/11, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
>>>>>>> And we are supposed to understand what you wrote? Are you writing
in
>>>>>>> a language that is even terrestrial? Get a grip and try again to
>>>>>>> write something intelligent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my
Audio
>>>>>>> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "rbl.gulftel.com" <rbl@...>
>>>>>>> To: <Jfw@...>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:48
>>>>>>> Subject: [Bulk] what is this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> really confusing, jaws does not give me a chance a chance cannot
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> comp;lete this because jaws can't understand me
>>>>>>>
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Re: clarification please. a friend in uk said the international list wasonce in australia, well I know we have had a couple of moves but I have been assuming weare nicely settled in Usa, if I am wrong do please let me know

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

the site seems to be in Canada, so the "list" can be said to be in Canada

of course my site is off a canadian server as well so my sites could be said to be in canada!

elf
elf
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. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
www.alacorncomputer.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:03 PM
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Re: tried to install WebvisumRe: Fw: Webvisum-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

there is a link for FF4.0 download on my grab bag site (address/link under my name) that I just put up yesterday.

elf
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www.alacorncomputer.com
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for blind computer users and Programmers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
Cc: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: tried to install WebvisumRe: Fw: Webvisum-discuss Digest, Vol 4,Issue 4


I tried downloading FF5.0 from my Downloads folder and got the notification that Webvisum was disabled; also I found the Tools\Options\Manage Addons less accessible and had trouble finding the addon I wanted to modify. Then I downloaded FF3.6.19 from a message sent by another lister, went to Webvisum and tried downloading the plugin, but still the plugin wasn't activated.
If you have a link to Firefox 4 please send it, but last spring I got this message regarding some of its drawbacks:
Gone are the layers of tool bars, status bars, the bookmark bar. Instead there is a row of tabs-much like Chrome. Interestingly, Mozilla is sticking to the more traditional address box on the left and search box on the right like IE and Safari. Chrome has combined the search box and address box into one.
Have these issues been resolved yet? Thanks again for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: tried to install WebvisumRe: Fw: Webvisum-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4


If you have FF3 installed why not just do the normal install? That
should still work fine as far as I know. I was only having problems
because I did upgrade to FF5 when it was offered, not realizing that
the upgrade would kill webvisum. It was working fine even with FF4.

On 7/16/11, Douglas Richard Dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:
I hit Install, restarted Firefox and checked one of the notification/alert
options but find no sign of the plugin working--no clicking sound or login
alert upon opening Firefox. Perhaps I should try installing Firefox 5, but
I might risk losing 3. Thanks anyway.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: tried to install WebvisumRe: Fw: Webvisum-discuss Digest, Vol
4, Issue 4


You don't need a new invitation. I have no idea whether it will work
with FF3.6. And yes, I got the same warning and just sucked it up and
installed anyway.

On 7/16/11, Douglas Richard Dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:
I tried to install from the link you sent but got the following warning:
Software Installation
Install add-ons only from authors whom you trust.
Malicious software can damage your computer or violate your privacy.
You have asked to install the following item:
webvisum-0.8-fx6.xpi (Author not verified)
http://fux.zuhage.de/ext/exchange/webvisum-0.8-fx6.xpi
Install Now Cancel
Also after I opened the link I heard Jaws say "install 4
unavailable"--not
sure it was 4 or for? I'm still using FF3.6; will this version of the
plugin only work on 5.0 or later? Do I need a new invitation or new
account
with Webvisum? Thanks.
Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>; "The Jaws for
Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Webvisum-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4


Okay, I downloaded and installed the XPI from that page (not the
easiest thing to find due to the page being in German and eloquence
continually switching to German pronunciation). It actually works
better than indicated for me (win7 pro 64bit, jaws 12), I even get the
speech notices when a challenge has been submitted and solved (the
only operation I use webvisum for). Thanks

The direct URL is:
http://fux.zuhage.de/ext/exchange/webvisum-0.8-fx6.xpi

On 7/16/11, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
On 7/8/11, Douglas Richard Dexheimer <drichardd@...> wrote:
Got the following from a Webvisum list member; not sure it will work
for
those (including me) who don't use Linux, or if it's worth the trouble
if
there's no captcha solution notification. Thanks for your feedback.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
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1. Re: Webvisum and Firefox 5 (Jakob Herrmann)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:34:15 +0200
From: Jakob Herrmann <jhlists@...>
To: webvisum-discuss@...
Subject: Re: [Webvisum-discuss] Webvisum and Firefox 5
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Hi,

look here:
http://www.camp-firefox.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=91070
and try to install Webvisum from the xpi linked there.
* Works without trouble with FF5 (at least under Linux) and is
supposed
to work with 6 either.
* You obviously won't get any notifications from Webvisum (e.g. when
a
captcha is solved), at least I cannot see any, might be a
screenreader
issue.
* Just mail me if the link is down; in this case I would provide an
alternative.

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Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?

Charles Krugman
 

as I stated previously JAWS used to show the actual rate and I recall thatat rate 95 ]\= 50% and when it actually showed the word count it was at 350 WPM. If you have any earlier versions of JAWS you might go back to them and experiment with the settings under voices in the options menu to find out more about word rates.
Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?


How do you determine the WPM, since the rate is shown in percentages?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of ckrugman@...
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?

I use it at about 350wpm and sometimes a bit higher.
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@...>
To: "JAWS Information List" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:52 AM
Subject: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?


Dear elf,
Oh my, you mean you can read JAWS at 500 words per minute?

I know the 300 Words Per Minute I am currently using was not as fast as I
could use JAWS and comprehend pretty well, Perhaps I might go 400 Words
per minute and with Practice be able to comprehend pretty well, but 500
words per minute?
Never!

And yes, I was sighted and I do not think I ever read at 400 words a
minute with eyesight.

Just for my information, which I will gratefully appreciate, how fast do
most of you fine folks use JAWS?
At Home?
At Work?

Thanks for any input!

With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org



----- Original Message -----
From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?


having been fully sighted I can answer this, the sighted world doesn't
know how to handle multiple inputs! simple and to the point...

for the main part everything in the "normal" world is based on the
written word, it doesn't matter for the main part that not everyone
learns well from the written word, that's the way its done.

so much so that I wasn't hearing half of what was going on around me
sound wise when I had my site, and had to relearn how to focus on sound
in order to get past the noise filters I had developed in my mind.
luckily the human body will assist you with that when its deprived of its
main sensory input.

and I was a mechanic, so was used to "using my ears" in assistance to
diagnosing problems with gas and diesel engines

not well done, but its how it's done out there

so they have no motivation, nor the trained in capacity to use the
"additional" input presented by programs like jaws and such, absolutely
none, another bad point is at the rate of reading I had, which was about
500 words a minute, I would not have been able to make much sense out of
what would have been coming out of the speakers if the speech program was
trying to keep up with my visual reading speed

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?


Yeah, because Jaws doesn't even write by itself...
If Jaws can't complete it, it's because your fingers are unable to move
over the keys to complete it...
And anyone on this list should be able to identify the difference
between "Text to speech" and "Speech to text." JFW is the first one! :)
I'm wondering why can't or don't sighted people use JFW regularly? It's
so much faster using Jaws to read than it is to use your eyes. I'd think
using both your eyes and your ears would make for extraordinary speeds
on the computer...
Also when reading books, I can get through one and a half 400 page book
in a day if I just read on my travel time, so why couldn't products for
the blind get legalized for sighted people and mainstreamed?
Just a random question that I've never been able to comprehend never
being sighted...
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

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From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:10 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'"
<jfw@...>
Subject: RE: [Bulk] what is this?

I think he's using jaw bridge or that voice recognition programs and
jfw
simultaneously.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
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On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?

Perhaps it's one of those great universal puzzles that we're just not
suppose to ever comprehend.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...>
To: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>; "The Jaws for Windows
support mailing list" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this?


That's a lot more polite than what I was thinking about that
particular message.

On 5/28/11, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
And we are supposed to understand what you wrote? Are you writing in
a language that is even terrestrial? Get a grip and try again to
write something intelligent.

Dave
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Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rbl.gulftel.com" <rbl@...>
To: <Jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:48
Subject: [Bulk] what is this?


really confusing, jaws does not give me a chance a chance cannot even
comp;lete this because jaws can't understand me

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Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp

Dave...
 

Work just fine for JAWS 12 and Winamp 5.51.

Dave Carlson
Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software.

-original message-
Subject: RE: [Bulk] book marking in winamp
From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...>
Date: 07-18-2011 15:32

Hanks but I am not using any scripts as the ones on Jfwlite are really
outdated.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp

If you're using the scripts found on www.jfwlite.com in the programs area
then I think it's Alt+i to create a bookmark. Insert+h will bring up a whole
list of hotkeys and their functions.


Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 13:58
Subject: [Bulk] book marking in winamp


Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book?
Thanks and have a great day.




-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re:

Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british
accent?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM


Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a
fan.
This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but
his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2
grown
sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his
draw
whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in
hoep, I told friend the move was in fact to Canada,he said it must have
been
a really big job for the moderator and shame on those who had hysterical
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

and don't forget that there are my helpful notes (loads of them) off my grab bag site: (address/link under my name)
there are some audio training files on blind cool tech:
www.blindcooltech.com

and also some superb ones on the blind-geek-zone website:


and this from Microsoft itself:
List, here is the direct link to the Microsoft web site for the article to help get you oriented to windows 7 entitled
"Accessibility-transitioning to windows 7".
It is 20 pages long, has excellent descriptions and includes a very usable
set of tables with short cut keys that we all need to know and use if we
cannot access the mouse.

Have fun.
John
http://www.microsoft.com/enable/products/windows7/transition.aspx

hope these are helpful,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa D Porter" <lisaporter429@...>
To: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


Hi,
I've been using 7 for almost a year and don't really notice many differences between it and Vista. I really like it aside from a few things I wish I could find out how to do. And, this is said from the lady that came into Windows from Unix kicking and screaming. LOL I think you'd be OK with 7 unless you use a lot of old programs that aren't compatible with it. I've only found one that I couldn't find a good replacement yet for.
Good luck and email me privately if you need or want any help.
Lisa D Porter
lisaporter429@...

On 7/15/2011 5:50 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote:
I may be soon migrating (disassociating?) to Windows 7 on my work machine as
it's time for a new laptop. Do any of you feel it incumbent to stop me
before I do something regretful? I do have the option of having my new
laptop fitted with XP Pro, 32-bit. Henceforth my request for your sage
advice, everyone.

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
care about readers of my mail. From my soon-to-not-be Dell Latitude 630 in
the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco
Bay Area.


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Re: [Bulk] JAWS not reading message in windows live mail

inthane <inthaneelf@...>
 

this is a common happening (the announcement of "outlook express") and comes from the code used to create windows mail and... windows live mail, it was a talked about item when folks just started using windows 7 and WLM.

so the problem lies else where, make sure she has all windows maximized, and that the preview pain is turned off (there are notes on doing all of this in the information package for windows 7 and the one for WLM on my grabbag site, see address/link under my name)

take care and good luck,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] JAWS not reading message in windows live mail


Jimmy,

Sounds like having Outlook Express on that machine is confusing things. It
needs to be removed, since it does not run on Windows 7 (or so I've been
told).

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
care about readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Jones" <jawsstudent@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:22
Subject: [Bulk] JAWS not reading message in windows live mail


Good afternoon,



I am trying to help someone with WLM. She has been reading her mail with
JAWS 12 but today although WLM shows the message list it doesn't read the
message when it is opened.



I noticed that when she opens WLM JAWS says something about outlook Express.
She tells me she had programs from her old computer transferred to her new
window seven, but that was some time ago.



Thanks for any help you can provide.



Jimmy



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Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp

Kerri <shalom75@...>
 

Hanks but I am not using any scripts as the ones on Jfwlite are really
outdated.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp

If you're using the scripts found on www.jfwlite.com in the programs area
then I think it's Alt+i to create a bookmark. Insert+h will bring up a whole
list of hotkeys and their functions.


Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 13:58
Subject: [Bulk] book marking in winamp


Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book?
Thanks and have a great day.




-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re:

Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british
accent?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM


Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a
fan.
This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but
his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2
grown
sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his
draw
whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in
hoep, I told friend the move was in fact to Canada,he said it must have
been
a really big job for the moderator and shame on those who had hysterical
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Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp

Dave...
 

If you're using the scripts found on www.jfwlite.com in the programs area
then I think it's Alt+i to create a bookmark. Insert+h will bring up a whole
list of hotkeys and their functions.


Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 13:58
Subject: [Bulk] book marking in winamp


Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book?
Thanks and have a great day.




-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re:

Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british
accent?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM


Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a
fan.
This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but
his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2
grown
sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his
draw
whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in
hoep, I told friend the move was in fact to Canada,he said it must have
been
a really big job for the moderator and shame on those who had hysterical
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book marking in winamp

Kerri <shalom75@...>
 

Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book?
Thanks and have a great day.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re:

Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british
accent?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM


Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a
fan.
This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but
his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2
grown
sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his
draw
whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in
hoep, I told friend the move was in fact to Canada,he said it must have
been
a really big job for the moderator and shame on those who had hysterical
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Re:

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

No I was typing over a dreadful noise as builders were only feet away on
this Hill! But I was of course saying dave is pretty clever and would soon
pick up windows 7, and maybe use Jaws 12,incidentally whoever's email I
read easily I note he or she was using 64 bit and jws12 and IE.9, but were
not in San frncisco overlooking a bay and was using a Dell that was not hell
regards Dorothy!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: 18 July 2011 19:14
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re:

Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british
accent?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM


Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a
fan.
This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but
his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2
grown
sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his
draw
whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Adrian Spratt
 

Dave,

Dorothy is confusing Karen's obviously accidental posting with Londa's post.
I suggest we all let this error go, as well as Karen's. Lots of people
accidentally click reply to the list when they don't intend to post.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

It cut off for me. Same place, just the letter n.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


Dave her letter did not cut off for me,she says she had no problems at all
and has used it for a year,she encourages you dave Dorothy!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: 18 July 2011 17:23
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Karen,

Your message cut off with the letter "n". Did you intend to send more?

Dave Carlson
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empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the
general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:55
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


n
----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...>
To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows
support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love
it
and have no problems. I don't even have many of the problems others have
said that they do. I am using the 64-bit version. I'm using IE9 with no
trouble as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:51 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

I may be soon migrating (disassociating?) to Windows 7 on my work machine
as

it's time for a new laptop. Do any of you feel it incumbent to stop me
before I do something regretful? I do have the option of having my new
laptop fitted with XP Pro, 32-bit. Henceforth my request for your sage
advice, everyone.

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
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in
the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San
Francisco

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Re:

Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@...>
 

Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british accent?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM


Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a fan.
This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but
his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2 grown
sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his draw
whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in
hoep, I told friend the move was in fact to Canada,he said it must have been
a really big job for the moderator and shame on those who had hysterical
fits and threatened the list with Spam! Dorothy


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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@...>
 

It cut off for me. Same place, just the letter n.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


Dave her letter did not cut off for me,she says she had no problems at all
and has used it for a year,she encourages you dave Dorothy!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: 18 July 2011 17:23
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Karen,

Your message cut off with the letter "n". Did you intend to send more?

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:55
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


n
----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...>
To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows
support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love it
and have no problems. I don't even have many of the problems others have
said that they do. I am using the 64-bit version. I'm using IE9 with no
trouble as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:51 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

I may be soon migrating (disassociating?) to Windows 7 on my work machine
as

it's time for a new laptop. Do any of you feel it incumbent to stop me
before I do something regretful? I do have the option of having my new
laptop fitted with XP Pro, 32-bit. Henceforth my request for your sage
advice, everyone.

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
care about readers of my mail. From my soon-to-not-be Dell Latitude 630 in
the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San
Francisco

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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Dave her letter did not cut off for me,she says she had no problems at all
and has used it for a year,she encourages you dave Dorothy!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: 18 July 2011 17:23
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Karen,

Your message cut off with the letter "n". Did you intend to send more?

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:55
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


n
----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...>
To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows
support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love it
and have no problems. I don't even have many of the problems others have
said that they do. I am using the 64-bit version. I'm using IE9 with no
trouble as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:51 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

I may be soon migrating (disassociating?) to Windows 7 on my work machine
as

it's time for a new laptop. Do any of you feel it incumbent to stop me
before I do something regretful? I do have the option of having my new
laptop fitted with XP Pro, 32-bit. Henceforth my request for your sage
advice, everyone.

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
care about readers of my mail. From my soon-to-not-be Dell Latitude 630 in
the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San
Francisco

Bay Area.


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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Dave...
 

Karen,

Your message cut off with the letter "n". Did you intend to send more?

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:55
Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


n
----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...>
To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows
support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love it
and have no problems. I don't even have many of the problems others have
said that they do. I am using the 64-bit version. I'm using IE9 with no
trouble as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:51 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

I may be soon migrating (disassociating?) to Windows 7 on my work machine
as

it's time for a new laptop. Do any of you feel it incumbent to stop me
before I do something regretful? I do have the option of having my new
laptop fitted with XP Pro, 32-bit. Henceforth my request for your sage
advice, everyone.

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
care about readers of my mail. From my soon-to-not-be Dell Latitude 630 in
the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San
Francisco

Bay Area.


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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

Karen Hughes <khughes8@...>
 

n

----- Original Message -----
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...>
To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!


I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love it
and have no problems. I don't even have many of the problems others have
said that they do. I am using the 64-bit version. I'm using IE9 with no
trouble as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 5:51 PM
To: JFW Mailing List
Subject: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!

I may be soon migrating (disassociating?) to Windows 7 on my work machine as

it's time for a new laptop. Do any of you feel it incumbent to stop me
before I do something regretful? I do have the option of having my new
laptop fitted with XP Pro, 32-bit. Henceforth my request for your sage
advice, everyone.

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
care about readers of my mail. From my soon-to-not-be Dell Latitude 630 in
the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco

Bay Area.


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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's

Dave...
 

Then it may be one aspect of "cloud" computing?

Dave Carlson
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care about readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:17
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's


Out of curiosity, I looked up "NAS" on google. It means network attached
storage. Synology sells NAS systems.

That doesn't answer the query, but maybe it will enable someone else to give
advice.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's

What is a NAS?

Dave Carlson
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care about readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
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To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 23:20
Subject: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's


Hi everyone,

I have a very frustrating problem with a NAS from the company called
Synology:
Unfortunately the webinterfaces where you for one thing could create new
users et cetera is not accessible for JAWS-users. Synology told me that it
is very hard for them to make a new webinterface, so they refer me to
contact my dealer and ask for refunding of my money.

Therefore I will ask on this list:
Have any person experience with a NAS where the webinterface is accessible
with JAWS?

Very thanks for the answer.

Regards,
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Re: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's

Adrian Spratt
 

Out of curiosity, I looked up "NAS" on google. It means network attached
storage. Synology sells NAS systems.

That doesn't answer the query, but maybe it will enable someone else to give
advice.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's

What is a NAS?

Dave Carlson
Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I
care about readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general
vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 23:20
Subject: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's


Hi everyone,

I have a very frustrating problem with a NAS from the company called
Synology:
Unfortunately the webinterfaces where you for one thing could create new
users et cetera is not accessible for JAWS-users. Synology told me that it
is very hard for them to make a new webinterface, so they refer me to
contact my dealer and ask for refunding of my money.

Therefore I will ask on this list:
Have any person experience with a NAS where the webinterface is accessible
with JAWS?

Very thanks for the answer.

Regards,
Anders


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Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a fan.
This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but
his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2 grown
sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his draw
whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in
hoep, I told friend the move was in fact to Canada,he said it must have been
a really big job for the moderator and shame on those who had hysterical
fits and threatened the list with Spam! Dorothy