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moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Andrew Law
 

Hi Laura, when I was using Outlook 2016, there was a time when the attachments section was collapsed and I couldn’t navigate to the attachments. I cant remember how it was brought back, I had IT do it remotely. I am on 2019 now so I cant recreate it, but there should be something there to click on, or get some sighted help or as someone else suggested, call Microsoft helpdesk.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 9:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 

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moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Richard Turner
 

Whomever said alt-a was mistaken. It's Insert-a then alt-downarrow to open the options for whichever attachment you are focused on.
But, if she is using JAWS 18, and not 2018, that could be an issue.
I never used that combination with Outlook 2016 and Windows 10.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 6, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Laura,

          Were I you, I would call the folks at Microsoft Windows & Office Accessibility Support on (800) 936-5900 and have them take a look.

           ALT+A does not work for me, SHIFT+TAB does.   If I customize the read window such that the Attachments tab shows, then ALT+Y will throw me to the controls, but it seems to me you're asking about getting focus on the individual attachments that are attached to the message.

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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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moderated Re: Getting to attachments

 

Laura,

          Were I you, I would call the folks at Microsoft Windows & Office Accessibility Support on (800) 936-5900 and have them take a look.

           ALT+A does not work for me, SHIFT+TAB does.   If I customize the read window such that the Attachments tab shows, then ALT+Y will throw me to the controls, but it seems to me you're asking about getting focus on the individual attachments that are attached to the message.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Richard Turner
 

Hi again,

If you are using Jaws 18, instead of 2018, that could be the problem.

I just tested with Jaws 2018, outlook 2016, Windows 10 and insert+a works as always.

 

If you are using Jaws 2018, maybe a shut down and restart will help.

 

Otherwise, I do not know if Jaws 18 still supports outlook 2016 and Windows 10.

 

You may need to call Freedom Scientific.

 

I hope you get it resolved.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Pressing insert plus a is how I usually get to the attachments.  That is not working now which is why I asked if there was another way to get to attachments.  Pressing shift tab is not working either.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

In Outlook, while in the message, pressing insert+a puts the focus on the attachments, then alt+down arrow lets you decide if you want to open, save, etc.

Or as Andrew pointed out, you can use the file menu and select save all attachments or just save attachment.

If you select save all attachments, you will get an OK button and then you can navigate to the folder where you want all the attachments to be saved and hit enter.

Then, use Windows explorer (file explorer) to go to that folder to open them.

Note, if it is a Word document, you will probably have to Enable editing as outlook by default puts documents into protected mode.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Madison,

 

Thank you for responding.  I tried your suggestion without success.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Laura,

Once you’re in the message that has the attachment (s), just shift + tab and that will take you to the attachment. Hope this helps!

Madison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 6, 2020 4:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Laura Richardson
 

Pressing insert plus a is how I usually get to the attachments.  That is not working now which is why I asked if there was another way to get to attachments.  Pressing shift tab is not working either.

 

Laura

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

In Outlook, while in the message, pressing insert+a puts the focus on the attachments, then alt+down arrow lets you decide if you want to open, save, etc.

Or as Andrew pointed out, you can use the file menu and select save all attachments or just save attachment.

If you select save all attachments, you will get an OK button and then you can navigate to the folder where you want all the attachments to be saved and hit enter.

Then, use Windows explorer (file explorer) to go to that folder to open them.

Note, if it is a Word document, you will probably have to Enable editing as outlook by default puts documents into protected mode.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Madison,

 

Thank you for responding.  I tried your suggestion without success.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Laura,

Once you’re in the message that has the attachment (s), just shift + tab and that will take you to the attachment. Hope this helps!

Madison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 6, 2020 4:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Madison Martin
 

Hi Laura,

Sorry that didn’t work, try Andy’s methoid, it worked for me, hope it works for you too!!!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 6, 2020 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Madison,

 

Thank you for responding.  I tried your suggestion without success.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Laura,

Once you’re in the message that has the attachment (s), just shift + tab and that will take you to the attachment. Hope this helps!

Madison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 6, 2020 4:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Laura Richardson
 

I’m using Outlook 2016, Jaws 18 and Windows 10.  The problem is not being able to get to the attachment.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Are you working with outlook?  I haven’t followed this but, I am using Jaws 20 along with Windows 10 and Outlook 19..  If that is what you are, hit enter to read the message, and press alt f for file, arrow down until you hear save attachments.  You will have the option to take all attachments and save them to whatever you wish.  Please let me know if that helped.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

I opened the message.  I then pressed shift tab but had to do that several times until I heard anything about attachments …… Jaws said “attachments button, to activate press the space bar”.  I pressed the space bar and nothing happened.  I also tried pressing enter with the same result …… nothing.  Still can’t get to the attachments.

 

Laura

    

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

When you open the message. Shift tab once to the list of attachments. When you highlight the one you want, copy it with control C, then go to where you want it pasted and hit control V.

Hope this helps

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Richard Turner
 

In Outlook, while in the message, pressing insert+a puts the focus on the attachments, then alt+down arrow lets you decide if you want to open, save, etc.

Or as Andrew pointed out, you can use the file menu and select save all attachments or just save attachment.

If you select save all attachments, you will get an OK button and then you can navigate to the folder where you want all the attachments to be saved and hit enter.

Then, use Windows explorer (file explorer) to go to that folder to open them.

Note, if it is a Word document, you will probably have to Enable editing as outlook by default puts documents into protected mode.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Madison,

 

Thank you for responding.  I tried your suggestion without success.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Laura,

Once you’re in the message that has the attachment (s), just shift + tab and that will take you to the attachment. Hope this helps!

Madison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 6, 2020 4:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Are you working with outlook?  I haven’t followed this but, I am using Jaws 20 along with Windows 10 and Outlook 19..  If that is what you are, hit enter to read the message, and press alt f for file, arrow down until you hear save attachments.  You will have the option to take all attachments and save them to whatever you wish.  Please let me know if that helped.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

I opened the message.  I then pressed shift tab but had to do that several times until I heard anything about attachments …… Jaws said “attachments button, to activate press the space bar”.  I pressed the space bar and nothing happened.  I also tried pressing enter with the same result …… nothing.  Still can’t get to the attachments.

 

Laura

    

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

When you open the message. Shift tab once to the list of attachments. When you highlight the one you want, copy it with control C, then go to where you want it pasted and hit control V.

Hope this helps

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Laura Richardson
 

Hi Madison,

 

Thank you for responding.  I tried your suggestion without success.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

Hi Laura,

Once you’re in the message that has the attachment (s), just shift + tab and that will take you to the attachment. Hope this helps!

Madison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 6, 2020 4:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Laura Richardson
 

I opened the message.  I then pressed shift tab but had to do that several times until I heard anything about attachments …… Jaws said “attachments button, to activate press the space bar”.  I pressed the space bar and nothing happened.  I also tried pressing enter with the same result …… nothing.  Still can’t get to the attachments.

 

Laura

    

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

When you open the message. Shift tab once to the list of attachments. When you highlight the one you want, copy it with control C, then go to where you want it pasted and hit control V.

Hope this helps

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

JOHN RIEHL
 

Press insert (on the six-pack of keys, the one on the upper left of the top three keys) and a.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of NFB Lab 4
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2020 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Getting to attachments

 

When you open the message. Shift tab once to the list of attachments. When you highlight the one you want, copy it with control C, then go to where you want it pasted and hit control V.

Hope this helps

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

Madison Martin
 

Hi Laura,

Once you’re in the message that has the attachment (s), just shift + tab and that will take you to the attachment. Hope this helps!

Madison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: July 6, 2020 4:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Getting to attachments

NFB Lab 4
 

When you open the message. Shift tab once to the list of attachments. When you highlight the one you want, copy it with control C, then go to where you want it pasted and hit control V.

Hope this helps

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Getting to attachments

Laura Richardson
 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

Van Lant, Robin
 

Another hack I do is to select all the text in Word and do a control x to cut it. Then, from the context menu, select Paste with text only. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

 

Hello,

 

I’m using most recent version of windows10 (2004), most recent version of Jaws2020 and MS word 2016.

 

I scaned a document using Jaws OCR. In the results document the text shows up not in tables. I copied the text and pasted it into a MS word document. The text is then put into tables.

 

Would it be possible to remove the tables and the text remain?

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

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moderated Re: Edge browser and favorites

 

Now that NVDA is reinstalled, I find that I can't use first letter navigation in Favorites manager.  It's much faster to use the search feature to limit what shows up in the right side pane.  

It's very, very much like file explorer in layout, and if you know what you're looking for a couple of characters in the search box tends to really cut down on what's available in the actual favorites list in the right pane.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Edge browser and favorites

 

Klaus,

           My recommendation for screen reader users is that they use the bookmarks manager (called favorites manager in Edge only, all other Chromium-based browsers use the term bookmarks), which can be invoked by CTRL+SHIFT+O.

           After that's open, you can use either the search function with the first few characters of the shortcut name, or you can tab over into the list of shortcuts and use first letter navigation (I think, NVDA is being cranky at the moment and I'm in the middle of doing an uninstall/reinstall).
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Edge browser and favorites

Klaus Vielhauer
 

Thanks Brian,


I was refering to the Edge favorites folder. Previously with theIE folder on the desktop it was much easier to acces a saved link.

Therefor for now I still use the old "Internet explorer folder" which then opens in Edge. However it is no longer updated with new links generated with Edge.

Opening Edge an tabbing to favorites and tabbing to the saved links needs much more key presses.

And even worse, when in the favorites list you cannot jump to a given link by keyboard letter presses.

Or? do I miss something?


Klaus


On 7/5/2020 5:57 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 07:28 AM, Klaus Vielhauer wrote:
with internet explorer I put a shortcut for favorites on my desktop.
Do you mean a shortcut to the Favorites file?  If so, then no, the equivalent does not exist for modern browsers.

If you mean shortcuts that allow you to activate them and open certain websites that are your favorites, then yes, that can still be done.  If you're using Edge as your default browser, then the easiest way (at least to me) is to copy the URL for which you want a desktop shortcut out of the address bar, then use the New,Shortcut option from the Desktop context menu to create one.  You also have the option of using Google Chrome for desktop shortcut creation (which will still open in whatever you have set as your default browser) by opening the URL under Chrome or Brave, then using its More Tools, Create Shortcut option to place the shortcut on your desktop.
 
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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: google calendar

Cristóbal
 

I’ve found schedule view to be the most accessible. Everything else is accessible enough. There’s a create event button or whatever it’s called as well.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: google calendar

 

I’d like pointers for using the Google Calendar with JAWS 2020. Google recommends procedures and hotkeys with virtual cursor off, but you still need to turn it on to read details. If anybody uses this extensively, I’d love suggestions. I can’t, for instance, figure out how to create an event while in month view and have the correct event date filled in automatically.

 

Thanks.

 

Dean

 

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