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moderated Re: Getting to attachments

NFB Lab 4
 

When you open the message. Shift tab once to the list of attachments. When you highlight the one you want, copy it with control C, then go to where you want it pasted and hit control V.

Hope this helps

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 5:54 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Getting to attachments

 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Getting to attachments

Laura Richardson
 

Hello,

 

Is there another way other than pressing alt plus a to get to an email attachment?  I’m using Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016.

 

Laura

 


moderated Re: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

Van Lant, Robin
 

Another hack I do is to select all the text in Word and do a control x to cut it. Then, from the context menu, select Paste with text only. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

 

Hello,

 

I’m using most recent version of windows10 (2004), most recent version of Jaws2020 and MS word 2016.

 

I scaned a document using Jaws OCR. In the results document the text shows up not in tables. I copied the text and pasted it into a MS word document. The text is then put into tables.

 

Would it be possible to remove the tables and the text remain?

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

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moderated Re: Edge browser and favorites

 

Now that NVDA is reinstalled, I find that I can't use first letter navigation in Favorites manager.  It's much faster to use the search feature to limit what shows up in the right side pane.  

It's very, very much like file explorer in layout, and if you know what you're looking for a couple of characters in the search box tends to really cut down on what's available in the actual favorites list in the right pane.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Edge browser and favorites

 

Klaus,

           My recommendation for screen reader users is that they use the bookmarks manager (called favorites manager in Edge only, all other Chromium-based browsers use the term bookmarks), which can be invoked by CTRL+SHIFT+O.

           After that's open, you can use either the search function with the first few characters of the shortcut name, or you can tab over into the list of shortcuts and use first letter navigation (I think, NVDA is being cranky at the moment and I'm in the middle of doing an uninstall/reinstall).
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Edge browser and favorites

Klaus Vielhauer
 

Thanks Brian,


I was refering to the Edge favorites folder. Previously with theIE folder on the desktop it was much easier to acces a saved link.

Therefor for now I still use the old "Internet explorer folder" which then opens in Edge. However it is no longer updated with new links generated with Edge.

Opening Edge an tabbing to favorites and tabbing to the saved links needs much more key presses.

And even worse, when in the favorites list you cannot jump to a given link by keyboard letter presses.

Or? do I miss something?


Klaus


On 7/5/2020 5:57 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 07:28 AM, Klaus Vielhauer wrote:
with internet explorer I put a shortcut for favorites on my desktop.
Do you mean a shortcut to the Favorites file?  If so, then no, the equivalent does not exist for modern browsers.

If you mean shortcuts that allow you to activate them and open certain websites that are your favorites, then yes, that can still be done.  If you're using Edge as your default browser, then the easiest way (at least to me) is to copy the URL for which you want a desktop shortcut out of the address bar, then use the New,Shortcut option from the Desktop context menu to create one.  You also have the option of using Google Chrome for desktop shortcut creation (which will still open in whatever you have set as your default browser) by opening the URL under Chrome or Brave, then using its More Tools, Create Shortcut option to place the shortcut on your desktop.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: google calendar

Cristóbal
 

I’ve found schedule view to be the most accessible. Everything else is accessible enough. There’s a create event button or whatever it’s called as well.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 10:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: google calendar

 

I’d like pointers for using the Google Calendar with JAWS 2020. Google recommends procedures and hotkeys with virtual cursor off, but you still need to turn it on to read details. If anybody uses this extensively, I’d love suggestions. I can’t, for instance, figure out how to create an event while in month view and have the correct event date filled in automatically.

 

Thanks.

 

Dean

 


moderated Re: how do you group messages by conversation in outlook 2019?

 

This has not changed, to my knowledge, over a very great many versions of Outlook.  I think it's been this way since Office 2007.

ALT+V, AB,D   [View Tab/Ribbon, Arrange By option, Date (conversations)]

If that alone doesn't do it, then you need to make sure that both the Show in Groups option is on (and it's a toggle) if you want the groups to show (e.g., Today, Yesterday, etc., before the conversations themselves):
ALT+V,AB,W

and/or Group by Conversations is on (and that's the default state).  ALT+V,AB,V  (the V is View Settings, which will bring up that dialog) then, in the dialog navigate to the Group by button and make sure it's set for Conversation (ascending), and then navigate to the Sort by button, and set that to Date, with the descending option checked if you want conversations with the newest messages to appear at the top of your inbox, or ascending if you want oldest conversations first with newest at the bottom of the inbox.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated getting jaws to say unread

Marvin Kotler
 

Good  afternoon listers; first, using jaws 2020                      and windows 10 1909 and windows 10 mail.  When I arrow down my message list, jaws says the date instead of unread.  I do not use e mail much, so, if anyone could tell me how to get jaws to say unread, I would appreciate it.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Matching answers - quiz

romance's prince
 

hello dears

i'm studying  course on udacity eLearning,
many quizzes use matching the correct answer
 do you know any trick to do this by jaws?
i tried to drag item from choices to be front of its phrase but failled to do this.

could you explain how i use mouce curser inside vertual curser on web? / drag object if it will solve it?

  any help will be appreciated.
  thanks
 


moderated Re: modify spoken symbols #jaws

romance's prince
 

hello dears

i able to solve the problem
jaws didn't pronounce the symbol if we omet these 8 digits 11111111, or any digits but not 00000000.
and these 8 digit change jaws tone as i noticed.
but, any reference to manage this number by correct way?
 i sent to jaws tech support, but not get reply till now, if you can help me?
  thanks


moderated how do you group messages by conversation in outlook 2019?

Jim Rawls
 

I am using jaws 2020 on a windows ten computer. I would appreciate any help anyone can give me. Thanks. Jim


moderated Re: Edge browser and favorites

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 07:28 AM, Klaus Vielhauer wrote:
with internet explorer I put a shortcut for favorites on my desktop.
Do you mean a shortcut to the Favorites file?  If so, then no, the equivalent does not exist for modern browsers.

If you mean shortcuts that allow you to activate them and open certain websites that are your favorites, then yes, that can still be done.  If you're using Edge as your default browser, then the easiest way (at least to me) is to copy the URL for which you want a desktop shortcut out of the address bar, then use the New,Shortcut option from the Desktop context menu to create one.  You also have the option of using Google Chrome for desktop shortcut creation (which will still open in whatever you have set as your default browser) by opening the URL under Chrome or Brave, then using its More Tools, Create Shortcut option to place the shortcut on your desktop.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 09:27 AM, kevin meyers wrote:
I scaned a document using Jaws OCR. In the results document the text shows up not in tables. I copied the text and pasted it into a MS word document. The text is then put into tables.
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When you paste the text, are you using the "Text Only" option?   That generally avoids both carrying existing formatting with, or generating automatic word formatting for, the text being pasted.

You can also set "Text Only" as your default paste option if that's what you're generally looking to do.  The default is "Keep Source Formatting."  I changed my default to match the destination formatting quite a while back, as that's generally what I'm looking to do.
 
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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

Richard Turner
 

You could have saved as plain text out of Openbook; or as was suggested, copy and paste into NotePad and then copy and paste that into Word, and no tables.




Richard
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On Jul 5, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

When I wrote Vispero about this, the recommendation was to paste the information into notepad, which removes all the formatting.  To remove table formatting in Word, while in the table press alt+j, then l, then v.  In either event, the formatting of the original document is lost.
At 08:27 AM 7/5/2020, you wrote:
Hello,

I'm using most recent version of windows10 (2004), most recent version of Jaws2020 and MS word 2016.

I scaned a document using Jaws OCR. In the results document the text shows up not in tables. I copied the text and pasted it into a MS word document. The text is then put into tables.

Would it be possible to remove the tables and the text remain?

Thanks,

Kevin







moderated Re: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

Ann Byrne
 

When I wrote Vispero about this, the recommendation was to paste the information into notepad, which removes all the formatting. To remove table formatting in Word, while in the table press alt+j, then l, then v. In either event, the formatting of the original document is lost.

At 08:27 AM 7/5/2020, you wrote:
Hello,

I'm using most recent version of windows10 (2004), most recent version of Jaws2020 and MS word 2016.

I scaned a document using Jaws OCR. In the results document the text shows up not in tables. I copied the text and pasted it into a MS word document. The text is then put into tables.

Would it be possible to remove the tables and the text remain?

Thanks,

Kevin


moderated Re: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

Dean Martineau
 

Yes, use the Convert Table to Text function in Word. You can find it with Alt+Q, add it to the Quick Access Tool Bar, or add a keyboard shortcut for the function, whichever you prefer. Alt+q is the easiest approach.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

 

Hello,

 

I’m using most recent version of windows10 (2004), most recent version of Jaws2020 and MS word 2016.

 

I scaned a document using Jaws OCR. In the results document the text shows up not in tables. I copied the text and pasted it into a MS word document. The text is then put into tables.

 

Would it be possible to remove the tables and the text remain?

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 


moderated Eliminating tables in MS word 2016

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

 

I’m using most recent version of windows10 (2004), most recent version of Jaws2020 and MS word 2016.

 

I scaned a document using Jaws OCR. In the results document the text shows up not in tables. I copied the text and pasted it into a MS word document. The text is then put into tables.

 

Would it be possible to remove the tables and the text remain?

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 


moderated Edge browser and favorites

Klaus Vielhauer
 

Hello,


with internet explorer I put a shortcut for favorites on my desktop.

Now with the the new Edge browser I have found no way to accomplish this.

Any idea?

Klaus


moderated Re: Mapping braille display keys

Sean Murphy
 

Anne,

Jaws and the FS focus uses dot8 plus spacebar with dot 1 through to dot 6. For example: dot 8 and dot 4 is the window key. Dot 8, dot 6 is the alt key. They are also called layer keys meaning you have to issue dot 8, dot 6 with spacebar, then a alpha key like f to activate alt f. I have not done deep dive to see how this is actually done with the FS focus.

The reason for sharing the above is it should be possible with any braille display without script work. First I would suggest you read the FS documentation on the FS braille display to understand the commands. Then try them out with the keyboard help. This will give you the script name. Then you can look this up in the keyboard manager.

Otherwise you will have to create a script in the default.jss file. When you issue a keyboard command, you are sending the relevant command you want. There is a function for sending keys to the OS.

This is just a quick note to let you know the two possibilities. If I had more time, I would dig deeper for you.

The worse case situation the above commands are drive based which I would find very surprising.


Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 10:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mapping braille display keys

Hi folks,


Would it involve fancy scripting or is there anyway of mapping keys on a braille display to certain functions, like the F1 through F12 keys, setting keystrokes for an Alt_F4 function, ETC? I just learned that Orbit has not even developed these commands for Jaws and there display, though they did put the commands in the User guide. They've promised an updated user guide, but no word whether they will implement the F1 through F12 key commands yet. In fact, there are a lot of keys on the Orbit that don't seem to be mapped to any functions in Remote mode at all.


Thanks for any advice,

~Ann