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Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?
Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Chuck & Virgil,
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Below is an article that talks about screen reader reading speeds. *** Listening Speeds Approximation with Window-Eyes and JAWS Screen Reader Practice Text Documents Listening Speeds Approximation with Window-Eyes and JAWS Methodology In order to determine an approximate words-per-minute test for a screen reader, we used this process: 1. The screen reader's speed was set to a chosen percentage. 2. A long document was selected of sufficient length for the "Read All" command to be invoked without running out of text in a two-minute reading session. 3. A timer was set for two minutes. 4. The timer and the "Read All" command were invoked at the same time. 5. The "Read All" command was stopped when the timer expired. 6. The rest of the document was selected and deleted. 7. The Microsoft Word "Word Count" command was invoked. 8. The number of characters without spaces were found. 9. This number was placed into Windows Calculator. 10. The number was divided by 5 to obtain an approximate average length of five characters. (Five characters is the average word length in American English.) 11. The result of this was divided by two to obtain average words per minute. 12. The deleted text was restored and the process repeated for another speed rate. Known factors which influence speed outcomes: 1. By default, the screen reader pauses for a fraction of a second at sentence punctuation marks, such as commas and periods, in order to give a better reading experience. This would tend to give a slightly slower average speed for each percentage. 2. In calculating the number of characters, punctuation of all kinds, including quotation marks, dashes, and sentence punctuation and other printable characters were included (spaces were excluded). This would tend to give a higher character count, and therefore, a higher average speed. Though this has not been tested, the assumption is that the two variables tend to cancel out one another. 3. Different versions of the Eloquence synthesizer have yielded different results. Both Window-Eyes and JAWS have included a proprietary version of Eloquence within their screen reader in recent releases. These versions have yielded higher rates from the nonproprietary versions. 4. Probably related to the previous point, we found that current versions of these two screen readers produced markedly different reading rates at the same percentages. The test was performed for Window-Eyes 7 and JAWS 11 with their own proprietary version of Eloquence. Comparison Tables Percent Window-Eyes 7 JAWS 11 60% 346.3 524.7 50% 251.6 437.4 40% 196.5 344.5 30% 135.3 284.1 20% 107.8 224 Percent NVDA 95% 400 58% 300 27% 200 NVDA: Non-Visual Desktop Access Hope this helps. Take care. Mike
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From: ckrugman@... To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:47 PM Subject: Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read? as I stated previously JAWS used to show the actual rate and I recall thatat rate 95 ]\= 50% and when it actually showed the word count it was at 350 WPM. If you have any earlier versions of JAWS you might go back to them and experiment with the settings under voices in the options menu to find out more about word rates. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:03 AM Subject: RE: How Fast do People use JAWS to read? > How do you determine the WPM, since the rate is shown in percentages? > > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] > On Behalf Of ckrugman@... > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:09 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list > Subject: Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read? > > I use it at about 350wpm and sometimes a bit higher. > Chuck > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@...> > To: "JAWS Information List" <jfw@...> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:52 AM > Subject: How Fast do People use JAWS to read? > > >> Dear elf, >> Oh my, you mean you can read JAWS at 500 words per minute? >> >> I know the 300 Words Per Minute I am currently using was not as fast as I >> could use JAWS and comprehend pretty well, Perhaps I might go 400 Words >> per minute and with Practice be able to comprehend pretty well, but 500 >> words per minute? >> Never! >> >> And yes, I was sighted and I do not think I ever read at 400 words a >> minute with eyesight. >> >> Just for my information, which I will gratefully appreciate, how fast do >> most of you fine folks use JAWS? >> At Home? >> At Work? >> >> Thanks for any input! >> >> With Best Regards, >> Alan >> Miami, Florida >> Alan Dicey, President >> United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA >> "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!" >> United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: >> http://AmericanBlindChess.org >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "inthane" <inthaneelf@...> >> To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this? >> >> >>> having been fully sighted I can answer this, the sighted world doesn't >>> know how to handle multiple inputs! simple and to the point... >>> >>> for the main part everything in the "normal" world is based on the >>> written word, it doesn't matter for the main part that not everyone >>> learns well from the written word, that's the way its done. >>> >>> so much so that I wasn't hearing half of what was going on around me >>> sound wise when I had my site, and had to relearn how to focus on sound >>> in order to get past the noise filters I had developed in my mind. >>> luckily the human body will assist you with that when its deprived of >>> its > >>> main sensory input. >>> >>> and I was a mechanic, so was used to "using my ears" in assistance to >>> diagnosing problems with gas and diesel engines >>> >>> not well done, but its how it's done out there >>> >>> so they have no motivation, nor the trained in capacity to use the >>> "additional" input presented by programs like jaws and such, absolutely >>> none, another bad point is at the rate of reading I had, which was about >>> 500 words a minute, I would not have been able to make much sense out of >>> what would have been coming out of the speakers if the speech program >>> was > >>> trying to keep up with my visual reading speed >>> >>> elf >>> . Moderator, Blind Access Help. >>> . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises >>> "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" >>> www.alacorncomputer.com >>> . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag >>> for blind computer users and Programmers! >>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brandon Keith (Biggs)" <brandonboy13@...> >>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@...> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this? >>> >>> >>>> Yeah, because Jaws doesn't even write by itself... >>>> If Jaws can't complete it, it's because your fingers are unable to move >>>> over the keys to complete it... >>>> And anyone on this list should be able to identify the difference >>>> between "Text to speech" and "Speech to text." JFW is the first one! :) >>>> I'm wondering why can't or don't sighted people use JFW regularly? It's >>>> so much faster using Jaws to read than it is to use your eyes. I'd >>>> think > >>>> using both your eyes and your ears would make for extraordinary speeds >>>> on the computer... >>>> Also when reading books, I can get through one and a half 400 page book >>>> in a day if I just read on my travel time, so why couldn't products for >>>> the blind get legalized for sighted people and mainstreamed? >>>> Just a random question that I've never been able to comprehend never >>>> being sighted... >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Brandon Keith Biggs >>>> >>>> Check out >>>> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brandonkeithbiggs >>>> Also add me on facebook! >>>> brandonkeith >>>> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=675097942 >>>> And for my resume go to: >>>> http://www.sfcasting.com/brandonkeith >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...> >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 3:10 PM >>>> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'" >>>> <jfw@...> >>>> Subject: RE: [Bulk] what is this? >>>> >>>>> I think he's using jaw bridge or that voice recognition programs and >>>>> jfw >>>>> simultaneously. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: jfw-bounces@... >>>>> [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] >>>>> On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:13 PM >>>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list >>>>> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this? >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps it's one of those great universal puzzles that we're just not >>>>> suppose to ever comprehend. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> >>>>> To: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>; "The Jaws for Windows >>>>> support mailing list" <jfw@...> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:58 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Bulk] what is this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That's a lot more polite than what I was thinking about that >>>>>> particular message. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/28/11, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote: >>>>>>> And we are supposed to understand what you wrote? Are you writing in >>>>>>> a language that is even terrestrial? Get a grip and try again to >>>>>>> write something intelligent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio >>>>>>> Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "rbl.gulftel.com" <rbl@...> >>>>>>> To: <Jfw@...> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:48 >>>>>>> Subject: [Bulk] what is this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> really confusing, jaws does not give me a chance a chance cannot >>>>>>> even >>>>>>> comp;lete this because jaws can't understand me >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Jfw mailing list >>>>>>> Jfw@... >>>>>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >>>>>>> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Jfw mailing list >>>>>>> Jfw@... >>>>>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >>>>>>> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Soronel Haetir >>>>>> soronel.haetir@... >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Jfw mailing list >>>>>> Jfw@... >>>>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >>>>>> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jfw mailing list >>>>> Jfw@... >>>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >>>>> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Jfw mailing list >>>>> Jfw@... >>>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >>>>> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Jfw mailing list >>>> Jfw@... >>>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >>>> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Jfw mailing list >>> Jfw@... >>> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >>> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> Jfw@... >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com >> Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > Jfw@... > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com > Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > Jfw@... > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/jfw-the-jdh.com > Unsubscribe by email: jfw-unsubscribe@... _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: clarification please. a friend in uk said the international list wasonce in australia, well I know we have had a couple of moves but I have been assuming weare nicely settled in Usa, if I am wrong do please let me know
inthane <inthaneelf@...>
the site seems to be in Canada, so the "list" can be said to be in Canada
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of course my site is off a canadian server as well so my sites could be said to be in canada! elf elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
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From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:03 PM Subject: clarification please. a friend in uk said the international list wasonce in australia,well I know we have had a couple of moves but I have been assuming weare nicely settled in Usa, if I am wrong do please let me know
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Re: tried to install WebvisumRe: Fw: Webvisum-discuss Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4
inthane <inthaneelf@...>
there is a link for FF4.0 download on my grab bag site (address/link under my name) that I just put up yesterday.
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elf . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
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From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...> To: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> Cc: <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: tried to install WebvisumRe: Fw: Webvisum-discuss Digest, Vol 4,Issue 4 I tried downloading FF5.0 from my Downloads folder and got the notification that Webvisum was disabled; also I found the Tools\Options\Manage Addons less accessible and had trouble finding the addon I wanted to modify. Then I downloaded FF3.6.19 from a message sent by another lister, went to Webvisum and tried downloading the plugin, but still the plugin wasn't activated.
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Re: How Fast do People use JAWS to read?
Charles Krugman
as I stated previously JAWS used to show the actual rate and I recall thatat rate 95 ]\= 50% and when it actually showed the word count it was at 350 WPM. If you have any earlier versions of JAWS you might go back to them and experiment with the settings under voices in the options menu to find out more about word rates.
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Chuck
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From: "Virgil Cook" <vcook@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'" <jfw@...> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:03 AM Subject: RE: How Fast do People use JAWS to read? How do you determine the WPM, since the rate is shown in percentages?
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Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp
Dave...
Work just fine for JAWS 12 and Winamp 5.51.
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Dave Carlson Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software. -original message- Subject: RE: [Bulk] book marking in winamp From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...> Date: 07-18-2011 15:32 Hanks but I am not using any scripts as the ones on Jfwlite are really outdated.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:00 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp If you're using the scripts found on www.jfwlite.com in the programs area then I think it's Alt+i to create a bookmark. Insert+h will bring up a whole list of hotkeys and their functions. Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 13:58 Subject: [Bulk] book marking in winamp Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book? Thanks and have a great day. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british accent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!
inthane <inthaneelf@...>
and don't forget that there are my helpful notes (loads of them) off my grab bag site: (address/link under my name)
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there are some audio training files on blind cool tech: www.blindcooltech.com and also some superb ones on the blind-geek-zone website: and this from Microsoft itself: List, here is the direct link to the Microsoft web site for the article to help get you oriented to windows 7 entitled "Accessibility-transitioning to windows 7". It is 20 pages long, has excellent descriptions and includes a very usable set of tables with short cut keys that we all need to know and use if we cannot access the mouse. Have fun. John http://www.microsoft.com/enable/products/windows7/transition.aspx hope these are helpful, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
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From: "Lisa D Porter" <lisaporter429@...> To: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 3:12 PM Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! Hi,
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Re: [Bulk] JAWS not reading message in windows live mail
inthane <inthaneelf@...>
this is a common happening (the announcement of "outlook express") and comes from the code used to create windows mail and... windows live mail, it was a talked about item when folks just started using windows 7 and WLM.
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so the problem lies else where, make sure she has all windows maximized, and that the preview pain is turned off (there are notes on doing all of this in the information package for windows 7 and the one for WLM on my grabbag site, see address/link under my name) take care and good luck, inthane . Moderator, Blind Access Help. . Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com . proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] JAWS not reading message in windows live mail Jimmy,
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Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp
Kerri <shalom75@...>
Hanks but I am not using any scripts as the ones on Jfwlite are really
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outdated.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:00 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp If you're using the scripts found on www.jfwlite.com in the programs area then I think it's Alt+i to create a bookmark. Insert+h will bring up a whole list of hotkeys and their functions. Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 13:58 Subject: [Bulk] book marking in winamp Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book? Thanks and have a great day. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british accent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: [Bulk] book marking in winamp
Dave...
If you're using the scripts found on www.jfwlite.com in the programs area
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then I think it's Alt+i to create a bookmark. Insert+h will bring up a whole list of hotkeys and their functions. Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
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From: "Kerri" <shalom75@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 13:58 Subject: [Bulk] book marking in winamp Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book? Thanks and have a great day. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british accent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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book marking in winamp
Kerri <shalom75@...>
Hello, all. How does one book mark in winamp for example, in an audio book?
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Thanks and have a great day.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:14 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british accent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re:
Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
No I was typing over a dreadful noise as builders were only feet away on
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this Hill! But I was of course saying dave is pretty clever and would soon pick up windows 7, and maybe use Jaws 12,incidentally whoever's email I read easily I note he or she was using 64 bit and jws12 and IE.9, but were not in San frncisco overlooking a bay and was using a Dell that was not hell regards Dorothy!
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti Sent: 18 July 2011 19:14 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british accent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!
Adrian Spratt
Dave,
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Dorothy is confusing Karen's obviously accidental posting with Londa's post. I suggest we all let this error go, as well as Karen's. Lots of people accidentally click reply to the list when they don't intend to post.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:10 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! It cut off for me. Same place, just the letter n. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! Dave her letter did not cut off for me,she says she had no problems at all _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re:
Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@...>
Desk draw? What is that? Your attempt to say desk drawer with a british accent?
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From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:41 AM Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!
Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@...>
It cut off for me. Same place, just the letter n.
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From: "Dorothy" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:41 PM Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! Dave her letter did not cut off for me,she says she had no problems at all
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!
Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
Dave her letter did not cut off for me,she says she had no problems at all
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and has used it for a year,she encourages you dave Dorothy!
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: 18 July 2011 17:23 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! Karen, Your message cut off with the letter "n". Did you intend to send more? Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:55 Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! n ----- Original Message ----- From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...> To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love it _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!
Dave...
Karen,
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Your message cut off with the letter "n". Did you intend to send more? Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I empathize with readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
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From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:55 Subject: Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! n ----- Original Message ----- From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...> To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love it _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh!
Karen Hughes <khughes8@...>
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From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@...> To: "'Farfar on Laptop'" <dgcarlson@...>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:25 AM Subject: RE: About to go to Windows 7 -- Arrgh! I've used Windows 7 on my notebook for about a year and a half. I love it
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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's
Dave...
Then it may be one aspect of "cloud" computing?
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Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I care about readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:17 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's Out of curiosity, I looked up "NAS" on google. It means network attached storage. Synology sells NAS systems. That doesn't answer the query, but maybe it will enable someone else to give advice. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:25 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's What is a NAS? Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I care about readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen" <english_correspondences@...> To: <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 23:20 Subject: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's Hi everyone, I have a very frustrating problem with a NAS from the company called Synology: Unfortunately the webinterfaces where you for one thing could create new users et cetera is not accessible for JAWS-users. Synology told me that it is very hard for them to make a new webinterface, so they refer me to contact my dealer and ask for refunding of my money. Therefore I will ask on this list: Have any person experience with a NAS where the webinterface is accessible with JAWS? Very thanks for the answer. Regards, Anders _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's
Adrian Spratt
Out of curiosity, I looked up "NAS" on google. It means network attached
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storage. Synology sells NAS systems. That doesn't answer the query, but maybe it will enable someone else to give advice.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:25 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's What is a NAS? Dave Carlson Written with grammatical care, punctuation, and capitalization because I care about readers of my mail. From my Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen" <english_correspondences@...> To: <jfw@...> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 23:20 Subject: [Bulk] Experience with accessible webinterfaces on NAS's Hi everyone, I have a very frustrating problem with a NAS from the company called Synology: Unfortunately the webinterfaces where you for one thing could create new users et cetera is not accessible for JAWS-users. Synology told me that it is very hard for them to make a new webinterface, so they refer me to contact my dealer and ask for refunding of my money. Therefore I will ask on this list: Have any person experience with a NAS where the webinterface is accessible with JAWS? Very thanks for the answer. Regards, Anders _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
Research it ,A friend in Uk says if fs is using any partof his licence
to spend on baseball results, it is a disgrace even if eric damery is a fan. This friend has bought jaws 12, and in fact like me paid for Jaws 13, but his copy of jaws 12 is still in his desk draw, he has sighted family 2 grown sons but, will never put on any upgrade till it has spent a year in his draw whilst"fs deal with the bugs Well I put it on at once always living in hoep, I told friend the move was in fact to Canada,he said it must have been a really big job for the moderator and shame on those who had hysterical fits and threatened the list with Spam! Dorothy
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