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moderated Re: JAWS2020 June Update, Build 2006.12 + What's New

Pastor Gilbert Pries
 

Thanks Mike.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2020 June Update, Build 2006.12 + What's New

 

Hi,

 

I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled.

 

I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:40 PM
To: JList
Subject: JAWS2020 June Update, Build 2006.12 + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

Below you'll find the direct download link and what's new in this J2020.2006.12 release.


32 & 64 Bit download link:

 

 


What's new in this release:

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2020 release and the June 2020 update.

 

Updated Braille and Text Viewers

 

For many years, the JAWS Braille Viewer has been a very helpful tool for visually displaying on screen, the textual representation of exactly what JAWS
is outputting on a refreshable braille display. This is very useful for sighted instructors, script writers, and testers who do not read braille or have
limited or no access to an actual braille device. The Braille Viewer represents the number of cells on the currently connected braille display. For example,
if a Focus 80 or Focus 14 is connected, you will see 80 or 14 cells on the screen. If a physical display is not in use, the Braille Viewer will represent
a 40 cell display including status cells.

 

In JAWS and Fusion 2020, we have made several much needed updates including improved support for displaying contracted braille, the ability to show braille
text as well as the actual braille dot patterns, and a visual connection so a sighted person can see which dot patterns are used to represent characters
and words. We have also added Layered keystrokes to simulate display panning which will really benefit sighted script writers.

 

To activate the Braille Viewer, navigate to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Enable Braille
Viewer. You can also now press the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by V, and then B to toggle the Braille Viewer on or off. The following
braille navigation commands are also available after pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, V:

 

list of 4 items
• Pan left: LEFT ARROW
• Pan right: RIGHT ARROW
• Prior line: UP ARROW
• Next line: DOWN ARROW
list end

 

The popular Text Viewer utility has also been brought over to JAWS and Fusion. This will be a welcome addition especially for those who previously used
MAGic.

 

The Text Viewer displays a continuous line of text across the top or bottom of your screen. It provides clarity and ease of reading by allowing you to
work in a live application while referencing normalized text in the Text Viewer window. You control the text formatting (font styles and colors) that displays
in the window so that it is easier for you to read documents, e-mails, Web pages, and more. This is very useful when you encounter text that is difficult
to read because of its formatting, varying sized text, and contrasting colors used in the application.

 

The text shown in the Text Viewer window follows your navigation within Windows. For example, if the cursor is moved, the text at the cursor position displays
in the Text Viewer window. Likewise, if you navigate with the mouse, the text that comes in contact with the mouse displays in the Text Viewer window.
When used in Fusion, Text Viewer eliminates the need to adjust the magnification level of the screen when trying to follow along with what Fusion is reading.
This is especially helpful when reading with Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW).

 

To activate the Text Viewer, go to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Enable Text Viewer.
You can also press the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by V, and then T to toggle the Text Viewer on or off. The Text Viewer also provides
easy right and left line panning keystrokes. After pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, V to enter the Braille and Text Viewer layer, press CTRL+RIGHT ARROW or CTRL+LEFT
ARROW.

 

The Braille Viewer/Text Viewer is a visual only option and the PC focus does not move to this window. Once activated, it will automatically start whenever
JAWS or Fusion is restarted. The Braille and Text Viewer window resizes your application windows to avoid covering anything someone may need to work with,
and when closed, the windows go back to full screen. You can place the windows on the top or bottom of the screen as well as customize the font, point
size, and the background and foreground colors for displayed text. The Braille and Text Viewer even works in a multiple monitor setup. To configure these
options, go to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Settings.

 

Note: Fusion must be running in Full Window Mode in order to use the Braille and Text Viewer. If a user switches to Lens or Split View while the Braille
or Text viewer is active, it will be suspended until you return to Full Window magnification.

 

New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking

 

Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS
now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will
remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature, open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load
the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards."

 

Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the Audio
Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while JAWS speaks.

 

Other Changes
list of 13 items
• When connecting to a remote computer using remote access software (Remote Desktop, Citrix, VMware Horizon, or Amazon WorkSpaces), JAWS and Fusion can
now get its remote authorization from a license installed locally on the remote computer if it is running a work station operating system like Windows
10 Professional. For example, you have a JAWS Professional license with remote access authorization on a Windows 10 computer at your office which you sometimes
connect to from home using Remote Desktop, but you only have a Home Annual license with no remote authorization on your personal computer. When you establish
a remote connection between your home and work computers, as long as you are running the June 2020 release or later of your Freedom Scientific software,
JAWS will use the license on your work computer to enable the remote access flag.
If connecting to a remote computer running a server operating system like Windows Server 2019 which supports multiple user connection, JAWS and Fusion
will continue to only use the license on the client or a Freedom Scientific network license server for authorization.
• To address reported issues with removing ILM timed licenses, new options have been added to the License sub menu located in the JAWS Help menu. Select
Remove current activation to remove the JAWS activation key or select Remove all products activation to remove any activation keys for JAWS, Fusion, ZoomText,
or MAGic installed on your computer. If you perform a full install of the June 2020 update or later, a new Remove all products ILM activation shortcut
is also added to the Utilities folder.
• Beginning with the June 2020 release, if you perform a clean install, the option to send anonymous usage data as you use JAWS and Fusion is now enabled
by default. If you install as an update, you will be asked if you want to turn this feature on if it is not already enabled. Having this feature on is
necesary to use certain features such as Picture Smart. See our
Anonymous Data Collection Policy
 for more information about what we collect.
• When installing JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion, there is now a link to view the End User License Agreement on the Freedom Scientific website.
• In Excel, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in the Sort By combo box.
• Removed the Stock Quotes Research It lookup source as this information could no longer be retrieved due to significant changes to the NASDAQ website.
• Pressing ENTER no longer turns off Forms Mode in edit fields. Forms Mode now only deactivates when focus moves away from an edit field when using Auto
or Semi-Auto or when you press ESC or the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD PLUS or CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON).
• The option to have JAWS and Fusion announce nesting levels for list items in web-based editors like Google Docs is now enabled by default to be consistent
with Microsoft Word. If you do not want to hear this information when reading bulleted or numbered lists, open Quick Settings (INSERT+V) and turn off List
Nesting Level Announcement.
• Improved JAWS indication of ARIA group names for check boxes and list items.
• Resolved an issue using JAWS with the about:config page in Firefox which allows you to configure advanced preferences or experimental features.
• Addressed an issue where button labels were being announced twice when using INSERT+B to read the contents of some dialog boxes.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not announcing indentation in the Visual Studio Code application.
• Added a new JAWS dictionary entry for TPGi.
list end


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

 


moderated Re: Emoji panel

 

Hi,

Actually, partially fixed as JAWS does not announce the first selected emoji yet; JAWS will indeed announce emojis as you move around the panel (the way it works is similar to how Narrator does it; contact me offlist for details).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:00 AM
To: JAWS <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Emoji panel

 

Hi All,

Just to let people know, the Emoji panel has been fixt with the JAWS update.

 

 

 

Andrew


moderated Re: JAWS2020 June Update, Build 2006.12 + What's New

Jessica D
 

Hi,

 

I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled.

 

I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:40 PM
To: JList
Subject: JAWS2020 June Update, Build 2006.12 + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

Below you'll find the direct download link and what's new in this J2020.2006.12 release.


32 & 64 Bit download link:

 

 


What's new in this release:

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2020 release and the June 2020 update.

 

Updated Braille and Text Viewers

 

For many years, the JAWS Braille Viewer has been a very helpful tool for visually displaying on screen, the textual representation of exactly what JAWS
is outputting on a refreshable braille display. This is very useful for sighted instructors, script writers, and testers who do not read braille or have
limited or no access to an actual braille device. The Braille Viewer represents the number of cells on the currently connected braille display. For example,
if a Focus 80 or Focus 14 is connected, you will see 80 or 14 cells on the screen. If a physical display is not in use, the Braille Viewer will represent
a 40 cell display including status cells.

 

In JAWS and Fusion 2020, we have made several much needed updates including improved support for displaying contracted braille, the ability to show braille
text as well as the actual braille dot patterns, and a visual connection so a sighted person can see which dot patterns are used to represent characters
and words. We have also added Layered keystrokes to simulate display panning which will really benefit sighted script writers.

 

To activate the Braille Viewer, navigate to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Enable Braille
Viewer. You can also now press the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by V, and then B to toggle the Braille Viewer on or off. The following
braille navigation commands are also available after pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, V:

 

list of 4 items
• Pan left: LEFT ARROW
• Pan right: RIGHT ARROW
• Prior line: UP ARROW
• Next line: DOWN ARROW
list end

 

The popular Text Viewer utility has also been brought over to JAWS and Fusion. This will be a welcome addition especially for those who previously used
MAGic.

 

The Text Viewer displays a continuous line of text across the top or bottom of your screen. It provides clarity and ease of reading by allowing you to
work in a live application while referencing normalized text in the Text Viewer window. You control the text formatting (font styles and colors) that displays
in the window so that it is easier for you to read documents, e-mails, Web pages, and more. This is very useful when you encounter text that is difficult
to read because of its formatting, varying sized text, and contrasting colors used in the application.

 

The text shown in the Text Viewer window follows your navigation within Windows. For example, if the cursor is moved, the text at the cursor position displays
in the Text Viewer window. Likewise, if you navigate with the mouse, the text that comes in contact with the mouse displays in the Text Viewer window.
When used in Fusion, Text Viewer eliminates the need to adjust the magnification level of the screen when trying to follow along with what Fusion is reading.
This is especially helpful when reading with Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW).

 

To activate the Text Viewer, go to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Enable Text Viewer.
You can also press the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by V, and then T to toggle the Text Viewer on or off. The Text Viewer also provides
easy right and left line panning keystrokes. After pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, V to enter the Braille and Text Viewer layer, press CTRL+RIGHT ARROW or CTRL+LEFT
ARROW.

 

The Braille Viewer/Text Viewer is a visual only option and the PC focus does not move to this window. Once activated, it will automatically start whenever
JAWS or Fusion is restarted. The Braille and Text Viewer window resizes your application windows to avoid covering anything someone may need to work with,
and when closed, the windows go back to full screen. You can place the windows on the top or bottom of the screen as well as customize the font, point
size, and the background and foreground colors for displayed text. The Braille and Text Viewer even works in a multiple monitor setup. To configure these
options, go to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Settings.

 

Note: Fusion must be running in Full Window Mode in order to use the Braille and Text Viewer. If a user switches to Lens or Split View while the Braille
or Text viewer is active, it will be suspended until you return to Full Window magnification.

 

New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking

 

Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS
now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will
remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature, open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load
the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards."

 

Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the Audio
Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while JAWS speaks.

 

Other Changes
list of 13 items
• When connecting to a remote computer using remote access software (Remote Desktop, Citrix, VMware Horizon, or Amazon WorkSpaces), JAWS and Fusion can
now get its remote authorization from a license installed locally on the remote computer if it is running a work station operating system like Windows
10 Professional. For example, you have a JAWS Professional license with remote access authorization on a Windows 10 computer at your office which you sometimes
connect to from home using Remote Desktop, but you only have a Home Annual license with no remote authorization on your personal computer. When you establish
a remote connection between your home and work computers, as long as you are running the June 2020 release or later of your Freedom Scientific software,
JAWS will use the license on your work computer to enable the remote access flag.
If connecting to a remote computer running a server operating system like Windows Server 2019 which supports multiple user connection, JAWS and Fusion
will continue to only use the license on the client or a Freedom Scientific network license server for authorization.
• To address reported issues with removing ILM timed licenses, new options have been added to the License sub menu located in the JAWS Help menu. Select
Remove current activation to remove the JAWS activation key or select Remove all products activation to remove any activation keys for JAWS, Fusion, ZoomText,
or MAGic installed on your computer. If you perform a full install of the June 2020 update or later, a new Remove all products ILM activation shortcut
is also added to the Utilities folder.
• Beginning with the June 2020 release, if you perform a clean install, the option to send anonymous usage data as you use JAWS and Fusion is now enabled
by default. If you install as an update, you will be asked if you want to turn this feature on if it is not already enabled. Having this feature on is
necesary to use certain features such as Picture Smart. See our
Anonymous Data Collection Policy
 for more information about what we collect.
• When installing JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion, there is now a link to view the End User License Agreement on the Freedom Scientific website.
• In Excel, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in the Sort By combo box.
• Removed the Stock Quotes Research It lookup source as this information could no longer be retrieved due to significant changes to the NASDAQ website.
• Pressing ENTER no longer turns off Forms Mode in edit fields. Forms Mode now only deactivates when focus moves away from an edit field when using Auto
or Semi-Auto or when you press ESC or the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD PLUS or CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON).
• The option to have JAWS and Fusion announce nesting levels for list items in web-based editors like Google Docs is now enabled by default to be consistent
with Microsoft Word. If you do not want to hear this information when reading bulleted or numbered lists, open Quick Settings (INSERT+V) and turn off List
Nesting Level Announcement.
• Improved JAWS indication of ARIA group names for check boxes and list items.
• Resolved an issue using JAWS with the about:config page in Firefox which allows you to configure advanced preferences or experimental features.
• Addressed an issue where button labels were being announced twice when using INSERT+B to read the contents of some dialog boxes.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not announcing indentation in the Visual Studio Code application.
• Added a new JAWS dictionary entry for TPGi.
list end


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

 


moderated Emoji panel

Andrew Summers
 

Hi All,

Just to let people know, the Emoji panel has been fixt with the JAWS update.

 

 

Andrew


moderated JAWS2020 June Update, Build 2006.12 + What's New

Mike B
 

Hi All,
 
Below you'll find the direct download link and what's new in this J2020.2006.12 release.

32 & 64 Bit download link:
 
 

What's new in this release:
 
The following is a list of improvements made between the April 2020 release and the June 2020 update.
 
Updated Braille and Text Viewers
 
For many years, the JAWS Braille Viewer has been a very helpful tool for visually displaying on screen, the textual representation of exactly what JAWS
is outputting on a refreshable braille display. This is very useful for sighted instructors, script writers, and testers who do not read braille or have
limited or no access to an actual braille device. The Braille Viewer represents the number of cells on the currently connected braille display. For example,
if a Focus 80 or Focus 14 is connected, you will see 80 or 14 cells on the screen. If a physical display is not in use, the Braille Viewer will represent
a 40 cell display including status cells.
 
In JAWS and Fusion 2020, we have made several much needed updates including improved support for displaying contracted braille, the ability to show braille
text as well as the actual braille dot patterns, and a visual connection so a sighted person can see which dot patterns are used to represent characters
and words. We have also added Layered keystrokes to simulate display panning which will really benefit sighted script writers.
 
To activate the Braille Viewer, navigate to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Enable Braille
Viewer. You can also now press the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by V, and then B to toggle the Braille Viewer on or off. The following
braille navigation commands are also available after pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, V:
 
list of 4 items
• Pan left: LEFT ARROW
• Pan right: RIGHT ARROW
• Prior line: UP ARROW
• Next line: DOWN ARROW
list end
 
The popular Text Viewer utility has also been brought over to JAWS and Fusion. This will be a welcome addition especially for those who previously used
MAGic.
 
The Text Viewer displays a continuous line of text across the top or bottom of your screen. It provides clarity and ease of reading by allowing you to
work in a live application while referencing normalized text in the Text Viewer window. You control the text formatting (font styles and colors) that displays
in the window so that it is easier for you to read documents, e-mails, Web pages, and more. This is very useful when you encounter text that is difficult
to read because of its formatting, varying sized text, and contrasting colors used in the application.
 
The text shown in the Text Viewer window follows your navigation within Windows. For example, if the cursor is moved, the text at the cursor position displays
in the Text Viewer window. Likewise, if you navigate with the mouse, the text that comes in contact with the mouse displays in the Text Viewer window.
When used in Fusion, Text Viewer eliminates the need to adjust the magnification level of the screen when trying to follow along with what Fusion is reading.
This is especially helpful when reading with Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW).
 
To activate the Text Viewer, go to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Enable Text Viewer.
You can also press the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by V, and then T to toggle the Text Viewer on or off. The Text Viewer also provides
easy right and left line panning keystrokes. After pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, V to enter the Braille and Text Viewer layer, press CTRL+RIGHT ARROW or CTRL+LEFT
ARROW.
 
The Braille Viewer/Text Viewer is a visual only option and the PC focus does not move to this window. Once activated, it will automatically start whenever
JAWS or Fusion is restarted. The Braille and Text Viewer window resizes your application windows to avoid covering anything someone may need to work with,
and when closed, the windows go back to full screen. You can place the windows on the top or bottom of the screen as well as customize the font, point
size, and the background and foreground colors for displayed text. The Braille and Text Viewer even works in a multiple monitor setup. To configure these
options, go to the Utilities menu in the JAWS main window, open the Braille and Text Viewer submenu, and select Settings.
 
Note: Fusion must be running in Full Window Mode in order to use the Braille and Text Viewer. If a user switches to Lens or Split View while the Braille
or Text viewer is active, it will be suspended until you return to Full Window magnification.
 
New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking
 
Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS
now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will
remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature, open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load
the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards."
 
Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the Audio
Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while JAWS speaks.
 
Other Changes
list of 13 items
• When connecting to a remote computer using remote access software (Remote Desktop, Citrix, VMware Horizon, or Amazon WorkSpaces), JAWS and Fusion can
now get its remote authorization from a license installed locally on the remote computer if it is running a work station operating system like Windows
10 Professional. For example, you have a JAWS Professional license with remote access authorization on a Windows 10 computer at your office which you sometimes
connect to from home using Remote Desktop, but you only have a Home Annual license with no remote authorization on your personal computer. When you establish
a remote connection between your home and work computers, as long as you are running the June 2020 release or later of your Freedom Scientific software,
JAWS will use the license on your work computer to enable the remote access flag.
If connecting to a remote computer running a server operating system like Windows Server 2019 which supports multiple user connection, JAWS and Fusion
will continue to only use the license on the client or a Freedom Scientific network license server for authorization.
• To address reported issues with removing ILM timed licenses, new options have been added to the License sub menu located in the JAWS Help menu. Select
Remove current activation to remove the JAWS activation key or select Remove all products activation to remove any activation keys for JAWS, Fusion, ZoomText,
or MAGic installed on your computer. If you perform a full install of the June 2020 update or later, a new Remove all products ILM activation shortcut
is also added to the Utilities folder.
• Beginning with the June 2020 release, if you perform a clean install, the option to send anonymous usage data as you use JAWS and Fusion is now enabled
by default. If you install as an update, you will be asked if you want to turn this feature on if it is not already enabled. Having this feature on is
necesary to use certain features such as Picture Smart. See our
Anonymous Data Collection Policy
 for more information about what we collect.
• When installing JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion, there is now a link to view the End User License Agreement on the Freedom Scientific website.
• In Excel, resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in the Sort By combo box.
• Removed the Stock Quotes Research It lookup source as this information could no longer be retrieved due to significant changes to the NASDAQ website.
• Pressing ENTER no longer turns off Forms Mode in edit fields. Forms Mode now only deactivates when focus moves away from an edit field when using Auto
or Semi-Auto or when you press ESC or the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD PLUS or CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON).
• The option to have JAWS and Fusion announce nesting levels for list items in web-based editors like Google Docs is now enabled by default to be consistent
with Microsoft Word. If you do not want to hear this information when reading bulleted or numbered lists, open Quick Settings (INSERT+V) and turn off List
Nesting Level Announcement.
• Improved JAWS indication of ARIA group names for check boxes and list items.
• Resolved an issue using JAWS with the about:config page in Firefox which allows you to configure advanced preferences or experimental features.
• Addressed an issue where button labels were being announced twice when using INSERT+B to read the contents of some dialog boxes.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS was not announcing indentation in the Visual Studio Code application.
• Added a new JAWS dictionary entry for TPGi.
list end

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.


moderated keystrokes for picture smart

dennis
 

incert spacebar then the letter p? i'm missing something.

--
Dennis Cornelison

Virus-free. www.avast.com


moderated Re: Spelling error and indicator sounds

Brenda Emerson-Alford
 

Hello Mike,

 

On question number 2 I have the setting of sound alert at top and bottom of page but no sound happens.  I am using the latest version of JAWS 2019 and Windows 10 along with word 2016.  Any thoughts?

 

Brenda

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Spelling error and indicator sounds

 

Hi Marilyn,

 

Answers are below the questions:

1: When I’m typing, sometimes I hear “spelling error” and then “out of spelling error.” I do not want to hear these announcements.

A: Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6, on the number row, now press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.

Down arrow to, Text processing closed arrow to open.

Down arrow to, Proofing closed, right arrow to open.

Down arrow 1 time to, Detect spelling while navigating..., now press the spacebar until Jaws reports, Off.

Tab to,apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, press enter to save / close.

 

2: Before, I would hear a ding when moving the cursor either to the very top or bottom of the document. Now all I hear is blank, blank, blank… and I am not sure when I’m at the top or bottom. I want the sounds back.

A: While in the application press, Insert + V , to open quick settings.

Down arrow to find, Top and bottom edg alert with..., press the spacebar until Jaws reports, alert with sound, now tab to, Okay, press enter to save / close.

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: marilyn

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:59 AM

Subject: Re: Spelling error and indicator sounds

 

Hello everyone,

 

Some settings on my machine seem to have changed, though I didn’t make the changes. Please give me step by step directions so I can change them back. I’m running Jaws 2020 and Windows 10.  

 

1: When I’m typing, sometimes I hear “spelling error” and then “out of spelling error.” I do not want to hear these announcements.

  

2: Before, I would hear a ding when moving the cursor either to the very top or bottom of the document. Now all I hear is blank, blank, blank… and I am not sure when I’m at the top or bottom. I want the sounds back.

 

Many thanks.

 

Marilyn

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws and synthesizers

David Griffith
 

As far as I know this is not possible through one sound card audio
settings although there may be mixer software that I am not aware of.
When I did some work for the RNIB years ago to solve this they provided a
hardware kit, a splitter box which forced Jaws through one channel and
allowed you to hear another sound input such as a telephone line through
the other channel of a headset/microphone setup. This was quite efficient
and I believe that this kit can still be purchased.
Jaws can be used with multiple sound cards, perhaps a USB as well as an on
board sound card. In theory you could have 2 sound cards and using a
splitter box force Jaws output into one channel and another card through the
secondary channel with such a kit. Of course As a much cheaper Heath
Robinson solution is to simply use 2 sets of tin ear earphones coming from 2
installed sound cards and simply put one earphone from each card in each ear
to hear the output from both cards at once.

David Griffith.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: 16 June 2020 15:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and synthesizers

Hello all,

I was wondering if there is a way to make Jaws only send output to the
right or left audio channel? If not jaws, can this be done to one of the
synthesizers that come with Jaws?



Thanks,

Jason



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moderated Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

No, Word just opens the document, but generally does it very well. I would wonder if it handles the line numbers better than Adobe, but I don't have a document of this sort to test. If you'd like to send me one, which I assume may be difficult because of confidentiality, you can send it to me at topdot@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers


I don't think you'd get any choice for reading order if you sent the
document to word. Probably the best choice for this situation would be
to use k1000 to recognize the pdf using the omnipage engine with column
identification disabled.



On 6/16/2020 09:07, Dean Martineau wrote:
I wonder what would happen if you sent that PDF to Word, assuming you're running something modern, Microsoft 365 for instance. Now I seldom open PDF's in Adobe. I have Word in my SendTo folder, so when I encounter a PDF, in the context menu I hit N for SendTo, W for Word and the PDF opens very readably in Word. As I'm writing, I don't know why I don't just change the default for PdF to Word. Just a thought.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

When you open the document, does adobe not ask you what reading order
you'd prefer? If so, have you tried the various options? If not, maybe
you should check in the edit menu for the accessibility assistant and
turn the reading order feature back on. May not help, but this sounds
like what the feature should have been meant for.





On 6/15/2020 19:56, kelby carlson wrote:
In my work, I frequently have to read transcripts of proceeding where each of the lines is numbered. When I open a transcript like this in Adobe, frequently all of the line numbers will be at the top of the page and I have to keep arrowing down to get to the text. I know this is a unique problem, but is there anything JAWS can do that will help with this? Right now it takes me longer to read these documents than it should.





moderated Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

 

Kelby,

I'm doubtful there is anything JAWS can do to make your document more
readable. It sounds as if whoever created the document was using Microsoft
Word to number the lines and when they saved it as a PDF file, the line
numbers were treated as a separate object from the text and placed at the
beginning of the created PDF instead of left next to their corresponding
text lines. I think you should talk to the creator of the documents and ask
them to try printing as PDF instead of saving or exporting as PDF to see if
that creates the desired results.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

In my work, I frequently have to read transcripts of proceeding where each
of the lines is numbered. When I open a transcript like this in Adobe,
frequently all of the line numbers will be at the top of the page and I have
to keep arrowing down to get to the text. I know this is a unique problem,
but is there anything JAWS can do that will help with this? Right now it
takes me longer to read these documents than it should.


moderated Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

Mario
 

I wonder how the recognition of the OCR feature in JAWS would handle the problem being discussed.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Hill [mailto:hillco@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 10:39 AM
Subject: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

I don't think you'd get any choice for reading order if you sent the
document to word.  Probably the best choice for this situation would be
to use k1000 to recognize the pdf using the omnipage engine with column
identification disabled.



On 6/16/2020 09:07, Dean Martineau wrote:
I wonder what would happen if you sent that PDF to Word, assuming
you're running something modern, Microsoft 365 for instance. Now I
seldom open PDF's in Adobe. I have Word in my SendTo folder, so when I
encounter a PDF, in the context menu  I hit N for SendTo, W for Word
and the PDF opens very readably in Word. As I'm writing, I don't know
why I don't just change the default for PdF to Word.  Just a thought.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

When you open the document, does adobe not ask you what reading order
you'd prefer?  If so, have you tried the various options? If not, maybe
you should check in the edit menu for the accessibility assistant and
turn the reading order feature back on.  May not help, but this sounds
like what the feature should have been meant for.





On 6/15/2020 19:56, kelby carlson wrote:
In my work, I frequently have to read transcripts of proceeding where
each of the lines is numbered. When I open a transcript like this in
Adobe, frequently all of the line numbers will be at the top of the
page and I have to keep arrowing down to get to the text. I know this
is a unique problem, but is there anything JAWS can do that will help
with this? Right now it takes me longer to read these documents than
it should.










.


moderated Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

Chris Hill
 

I don't think you'd get any choice for reading order if you sent the document to word.  Probably the best choice for this situation would be to use k1000 to recognize the pdf using the omnipage engine with column identification disabled.

On 6/16/2020 09:07, Dean Martineau wrote:
I wonder what would happen if you sent that PDF to Word, assuming you're running something modern, Microsoft 365 for instance. Now I seldom open PDF's in Adobe. I have Word in my SendTo folder, so when I encounter a PDF, in the context menu I hit N for SendTo, W for Word and the PDF opens very readably in Word. As I'm writing, I don't know why I don't just change the default for PdF to Word. Just a thought.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

When you open the document, does adobe not ask you what reading order
you'd prefer? If so, have you tried the various options? If not, maybe
you should check in the edit menu for the accessibility assistant and
turn the reading order feature back on. May not help, but this sounds
like what the feature should have been meant for.





On 6/15/2020 19:56, kelby carlson wrote:
In my work, I frequently have to read transcripts of proceeding where each of the lines is numbered. When I open a transcript like this in Adobe, frequently all of the line numbers will be at the top of the page and I have to keep arrowing down to get to the text. I know this is a unique problem, but is there anything JAWS can do that will help with this? Right now it takes me longer to read these documents than it should.




moderated Jaws and synthesizers

Boston, Jason W
 

Hello all,

I was wondering if there is  a way to make Jaws only send output to the right or left audio channel? If not jaws, can this be done to one of the synthesizers that come with Jaws?

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

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moderated Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I wonder what would happen if you sent that PDF to Word, assuming you're running something modern, Microsoft 365 for instance. Now I seldom open PDF's in Adobe. I have Word in my SendTo folder, so when I encounter a PDF, in the context menu I hit N for SendTo, W for Word and the PDF opens very readably in Word. As I'm writing, I don't know why I don't just change the default for PdF to Word. Just a thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

When you open the document, does adobe not ask you what reading order
you'd prefer? If so, have you tried the various options? If not, maybe
you should check in the edit menu for the accessibility assistant and
turn the reading order feature back on. May not help, but this sounds
like what the feature should have been meant for.





On 6/15/2020 19:56, kelby carlson wrote:
In my work, I frequently have to read transcripts of proceeding where each of the lines is numbered. When I open a transcript like this in Adobe, frequently all of the line numbers will be at the top of the page and I have to keep arrowing down to get to the text. I know this is a unique problem, but is there anything JAWS can do that will help with this? Right now it takes me longer to read these documents than it should.


moderated Re: word count in MS Word

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Lol mike don’t get upset, but what did that have to do with word count?

 

That bar stool must be catching up with you…lol

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: June 16, 2020 6:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

When the, Save , button comes up tab 1 time to the, Don't save , button and press the spacebar on that.  The document should close without any supposed or unwanted changes.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: CJ &AA MAY

Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:27 AM

Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

I too, when using control shift g, get asked if I want to save the changes. I didn’t know about this command.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 15 June 2020 18:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Hi Al & Adrian,

 

When I think to use the, Control, Shift + G , keystroke instead of the, Insert + Pagedown , keystroke and get that save dialogue I tab 1 time to the, don't save button, and press the spacebar.  This closes the document with no problems or changes to the document.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Al,

 

I’m not Mike, needless to say, but your post made me curious. I confirmed that with Word 2016, I have the same experience using shift-control-g. that is, when performing no other operation on a document, after using that command I need to save changes in order to close the document.

 

My only thought is that the same thing happens when the only operation I perform on a Word document is to copy some text. I haven’t changed it at all, and yet here to,, I must save changes in order to close the document.

 

In either case, whatever change the program perceives has occurred, I think you can be confident it isn’t one that affects the text or format in any way.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Al Sorrentino via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Hi Mike,

 

Thank you very much for those GREAT key strokes.  For years I’ve been using the insert and the down arrow keys and I like this new system.    

 

I just tried it on an existing Word document and it worked with lots of info, but when I tried to exit my document, JAWS asked me if I wanted to save changes.  Other than opening the existing document and using Control, Shift and the letter G, I did not change my original document.  Are the Control, Shift and the letter G adding something to my document?  I experimented with the same document and used Insert and the down arrow keys and JAWS did not tell me if I wanted to save the document.  It just exited my document.  Am I doing something wrong when I open up my document and using your commands?  Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Oh, by the way, I am using JAWS 15, Windows 7 and Word 2010.

 

Al

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Another keystroke that will give a little more than the word count is Control, Shift + G.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:44 PM

Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Adrian,

Thanks for that clarification. Mike is certainly the master at providing
detailed instructions at bending Microsoft Office to our wills with JAWS.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Alan,

FYI, yes JAWS key+pagedown/3 still usually works with Word 2016. However,
sometimes it fails, in which case Mike B's instructions explain how to
return the status line to showing these items, or not, as you choose.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Alison,

I'm running Word 2010 on a Windows 7 computer and I use JAWS key plus
PageDown key which reads the status line which reports Page number, line
number, and word count. I don't know if this works in newer versions of
Office but it works well on my system.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Until recently, pressing Jaws key 3 has told me the number of words in my MS
Word document. It now tells me the number of characters and which line I am
on but I am having to press function key 6 in order to get a word count. Is
there a way I can amend this?
Alison
 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: 14 June 2020 02:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page

I found a keystroke jaws+alt+s where I can change the scheme to read the
colors -- I don't know why it did not work when I tried to do it from the
settings center, but it seems to work fairly well, only problem is that Jaws
goes silent sometimes for 15-20 seconds after I hit jaws-to-pc hot key --
using Chrome.

Thanks for everyones suggestion, I hope this works.

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 18:22:54 -0400,
Dean Martineau wrote:
>
> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
> I'll be surprised if the ReadSelectedText hotkey, JAWSKey+Shift+down
> arrow identifies text that has been highlighted by a web developer or
> document author.  The only keystroke that might work is JAWSKey+5 (on
> the number row) to identify color, and I'm not too optimistic about
> that
either.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 5:09 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
>
> Try this keystroke:
>
> Shift+JAWSKey+DownArrow
>
> Says selected or highlighted text that appears on the screen.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when
> I pee it cleans the toilet.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Richard Chen <mailto:richlchen@...>
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:10 AM
>
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
>
> It would be great to figure out where in a document is any highlighted
text.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Glenn /
> Lenny
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
> If one just wants to read what is highlighted, the Jaws hotkey insert
> + Shift + numpad 2 will read the highlighted text.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Covici" <covici@...
> <mailto:covici@...> >
> To: <main@... <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> >
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
> hmmm, jaws +f2 just says custom hilight and you can set the foreground
> and background, but seems no way to read them.
>
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:28:59 -0400,
> Adrian Spratt wrote:
> >
> > One thought is to place focus on each of the options and, in each
> > case, press JAWS key+f to compare fonts, etc. This may be all you need.
> > Otherwise, it may tell you how the highlighted text differs from the
> > non-highlighted.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> > <main@jfw.groups.io
> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of John Covici
> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 12:11 PM
> > To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
> > Subject: how to read hilighted text on web page
> >
> > Hi.  OI am using Jaws 2020 latest update and I can't seem to read
> > hilighted text on web page.  What I am trying to read are options
> > with y/n
>
> > choices and one of them is hilighted.  I tried to  use a different
> > sound scheme such as attributes and colors, but no joy.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >
> > --
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >          John Covici wb2una
> >          covici@... <mailto:covici@...>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici wb2una
>          covici@... <mailto:covici@...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [2  <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]

--
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici wb2una
         covici@...













moderated Re: Video Chatting on Facebook Using JAWS

JM Casey
 

Never tried using this feature, but you can download the messenger “app” and install that. It’s a Windows Store app. Go to

http://www.messenger.com

It has buttons to audio or video call people on your list. Not sure if there’s a way to do this from within browser or not…

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: June 15, 2020 11:17 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Video Chatting on Facebook Using JAWS

 

Anyone:

 

I looked up the instructions about how to video chat with a friend on Facebook.  The first thing it says is “Click in the upper right of the screen.”  Is there any way using JAWS that you can video chat with someone?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: word count in MS Word

Mike B
 

When the, Save , button comes up tab 1 time to the, Don't save , button and press the spacebar on that.  The document should close without any supposed or unwanted changes.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
From: CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

I too, when using control shift g, get asked if I want to save the changes. I didn’t know about this command.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 15 June 2020 18:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Hi Al & Adrian,

 

When I think to use the, Control, Shift + G , keystroke instead of the, Insert + Pagedown , keystroke and get that save dialogue I tab 1 time to the, don't save button, and press the spacebar.  This closes the document with no problems or changes to the document.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Al,

 

I’m not Mike, needless to say, but your post made me curious. I confirmed that with Word 2016, I have the same experience using shift-control-g. that is, when performing no other operation on a document, after using that command I need to save changes in order to close the document.

 

My only thought is that the same thing happens when the only operation I perform on a Word document is to copy some text. I haven’t changed it at all, and yet here to,, I must save changes in order to close the document.

 

In either case, whatever change the program perceives has occurred, I think you can be confident it isn’t one that affects the text or format in any way.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Al Sorrentino via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Hi Mike,

 

Thank you very much for those GREAT key strokes.  For years I’ve been using the insert and the down arrow keys and I like this new system.    

 

I just tried it on an existing Word document and it worked with lots of info, but when I tried to exit my document, JAWS asked me if I wanted to save changes.  Other than opening the existing document and using Control, Shift and the letter G, I did not change my original document.  Are the Control, Shift and the letter G adding something to my document?  I experimented with the same document and used Insert and the down arrow keys and JAWS did not tell me if I wanted to save the document.  It just exited my document.  Am I doing something wrong when I open up my document and using your commands?  Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Oh, by the way, I am using JAWS 15, Windows 7 and Word 2010.

 

Al

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Another keystroke that will give a little more than the word count is Control, Shift + G.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:44 PM

Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Adrian,

Thanks for that clarification. Mike is certainly the master at providing
detailed instructions at bending Microsoft Office to our wills with JAWS.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Alan,

FYI, yes JAWS key+pagedown/3 still usually works with Word 2016. However,
sometimes it fails, in which case Mike B's instructions explain how to
return the status line to showing these items, or not, as you choose.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Alison,

I'm running Word 2010 on a Windows 7 computer and I use JAWS key plus
PageDown key which reads the status line which reports Page number, line
number, and word count. I don't know if this works in newer versions of
Office but it works well on my system.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Until recently, pressing Jaws key 3 has told me the number of words in my MS
Word document. It now tells me the number of characters and which line I am
on but I am having to press function key 6 in order to get a word count. Is
there a way I can amend this?
Alison
 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: 14 June 2020 02:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page

I found a keystroke jaws+alt+s where I can change the scheme to read the
colors -- I don't know why it did not work when I tried to do it from the
settings center, but it seems to work fairly well, only problem is that Jaws
goes silent sometimes for 15-20 seconds after I hit jaws-to-pc hot key --
using Chrome.

Thanks for everyones suggestion, I hope this works.

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 18:22:54 -0400,
Dean Martineau wrote:
>
> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
> I'll be surprised if the ReadSelectedText hotkey, JAWSKey+Shift+down
> arrow identifies text that has been highlighted by a web developer or
> document author.  The only keystroke that might work is JAWSKey+5 (on
> the number row) to identify color, and I'm not too optimistic about
> that
either.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 5:09 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
>
> Try this keystroke:
>
> Shift+JAWSKey+DownArrow
>
> Says selected or highlighted text that appears on the screen.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when
> I pee it cleans the toilet.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Richard Chen <mailto:richlchen@...>
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:10 AM
>
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
>
> It would be great to figure out where in a document is any highlighted
text.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Glenn /
> Lenny
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
> If one just wants to read what is highlighted, the Jaws hotkey insert
> + Shift + numpad 2 will read the highlighted text.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Covici" <covici@...
> <mailto:covici@...> >
> To: <main@... <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> >
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
> hmmm, jaws +f2 just says custom hilight and you can set the foreground
> and background, but seems no way to read them.
>
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:28:59 -0400,
> Adrian Spratt wrote:
> >
> > One thought is to place focus on each of the options and, in each
> > case, press JAWS key+f to compare fonts, etc. This may be all you need.
> > Otherwise, it may tell you how the highlighted text differs from the
> > non-highlighted.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> > <main@jfw.groups.io
> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of John Covici
> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 12:11 PM
> > To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
> > Subject: how to read hilighted text on web page
> >
> > Hi.  OI am using Jaws 2020 latest update and I can't seem to read
> > hilighted text on web page.  What I am trying to read are options
> > with y/n
>
> > choices and one of them is hilighted.  I tried to  use a different
> > sound scheme such as attributes and colors, but no joy.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >
> > --
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >          John Covici wb2una
> >          covici@... <mailto:covici@...>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici wb2una
>          covici@... <mailto:covici@...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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How do
you spend it?

         John Covici wb2una
         covici@...














moderated Re: thanks for the helpful replies to my inquiry in win10 in a folder how do you tell Win10 to delete only all the files that have a same particular extension but not the other files in that folder that have different extensions?

Hank William Merchant
 

 
Hello back,
 
I just want to say a big thanks very much to all that have replied to my Re: in win10 in a folder how do you tell Win10 to delete only all the files that have a same particular extension but not the other files in that folder that have different extensions? inquiry email with all your very helpful suggestions on how to do this. Again much, much thanks! I really appreciate all your helpful replys.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
All the best,
Warmest regards,
 
Hank
 
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 12:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: in win10 in a folder how do you tell Win10 to delete only all the files that have a same particular extension but not the other files in that folder that have different extensions?
 
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:33 PM, ratshtron wrote:
open the folder and move to the first file with the particular extention and now, press and hold the ctrl key and start arrowing down through the list of files and every time you land on another file with same extention, press the spacebar to select it. be sure to continue to hold the ctrl key. once you have selected all the files with the same extention, press the delete key and the files will be deleted once you confirm you wish to delete the number of multi-files.

It is much, much easier to use the search function (CTRL+E) and enter the search criteria for all the files you want, then Select All, then delete.

So, once you're in the folder, say you want to delete all PDF files in the folder.  Hit CTRL+E then type *.pdf in the search box then hit enter.  The search will return only files in that folder that are PDF files.  Hit CTRL+A to select all, then hit the DEL key.  You're done.

Of course, the search criteria can be anything that's appropriate, so if you wanted only PDF files that start with, say, Nov, then type Nov*.pdf in the search box and hit enter.  You can use any extension and you can combine things with OR if you want, say all JPG files OR PDF files, that would be *.jpg OR *.PDF, and you'll only get files with one of those two extensions back.

Hand gathering is far more error prone.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: word count in MS Word

CJ &AA MAY
 

I too, when using control shift g, get asked if I want to save the changes. I didn’t know about this command.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 15 June 2020 18:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Hi Al & Adrian,

 

When I think to use the, Control, Shift + G , keystroke instead of the, Insert + Pagedown , keystroke and get that save dialogue I tab 1 time to the, don't save button, and press the spacebar.  This closes the document with no problems or changes to the document.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:21 AM

Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Al,

 

I’m not Mike, needless to say, but your post made me curious. I confirmed that with Word 2016, I have the same experience using shift-control-g. that is, when performing no other operation on a document, after using that command I need to save changes in order to close the document.

 

My only thought is that the same thing happens when the only operation I perform on a Word document is to copy some text. I haven’t changed it at all, and yet here to,, I must save changes in order to close the document.

 

In either case, whatever change the program perceives has occurred, I think you can be confident it isn’t one that affects the text or format in any way.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Al Sorrentino via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Hi Mike,

 

Thank you very much for those GREAT key strokes.  For years I’ve been using the insert and the down arrow keys and I like this new system.    

 

I just tried it on an existing Word document and it worked with lots of info, but when I tried to exit my document, JAWS asked me if I wanted to save changes.  Other than opening the existing document and using Control, Shift and the letter G, I did not change my original document.  Are the Control, Shift and the letter G adding something to my document?  I experimented with the same document and used Insert and the down arrow keys and JAWS did not tell me if I wanted to save the document.  It just exited my document.  Am I doing something wrong when I open up my document and using your commands?  Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Oh, by the way, I am using JAWS 15, Windows 7 and Word 2010.

 

Al

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Another keystroke that will give a little more than the word count is Control, Shift + G.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:44 PM

Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

 

Adrian,

Thanks for that clarification. Mike is certainly the master at providing
detailed instructions at bending Microsoft Office to our wills with JAWS.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Alan,

FYI, yes JAWS key+pagedown/3 still usually works with Word 2016. However,
sometimes it fails, in which case Mike B's instructions explain how to
return the status line to showing these items, or not, as you choose.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Alison,

I'm running Word 2010 on a Windows 7 computer and I use JAWS key plus
PageDown key which reads the status line which reports Page number, line
number, and word count. I don't know if this works in newer versions of
Office but it works well on my system.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 1:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word count in MS Word

Until recently, pressing Jaws key 3 has told me the number of words in my MS
Word document. It now tells me the number of characters and which line I am
on but I am having to press function key 6 in order to get a word count. Is
there a way I can amend this?
Alison
 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: 14 June 2020 02:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page

I found a keystroke jaws+alt+s where I can change the scheme to read the
colors -- I don't know why it did not work when I tried to do it from the
settings center, but it seems to work fairly well, only problem is that Jaws
goes silent sometimes for 15-20 seconds after I hit jaws-to-pc hot key --
using Chrome.

Thanks for everyones suggestion, I hope this works.

On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 18:22:54 -0400,
Dean Martineau wrote:
>
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> I'll be surprised if the ReadSelectedText hotkey, JAWSKey+Shift+down
> arrow identifies text that has been highlighted by a web developer or
> document author.  The only keystroke that might work is JAWSKey+5 (on
> the number row) to identify color, and I'm not too optimistic about
> that
either.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 5:09 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
>
> Try this keystroke:
>
> Shift+JAWSKey+DownArrow
>
> Says selected or highlighted text that appears on the screen.
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when
> I pee it cleans the toilet.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Richard Chen <mailto:richlchen@...>
>
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:10 AM
>
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
>
> It would be great to figure out where in a document is any highlighted
text.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Glenn /
> Lenny
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:09 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
> If one just wants to read what is highlighted, the Jaws hotkey insert
> + Shift + numpad 2 will read the highlighted text.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Covici" <covici@...
> <mailto:covici@...> >
> To: <main@... <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> >
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: how to read highlighted text on web page
>
>
> hmmm, jaws +f2 just says custom hilight and you can set the foreground
> and background, but seems no way to read them.
>
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:28:59 -0400,
> Adrian Spratt wrote:
> >
> > One thought is to place focus on each of the options and, in each
> > case, press JAWS key+f to compare fonts, etc. This may be all you need.
> > Otherwise, it may tell you how the highlighted text differs from the
> > non-highlighted.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> > <main@jfw.groups.io
> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of John Covici
> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 12:11 PM
> > To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
> > Subject: how to read hilighted text on web page
> >
> > Hi.  OI am using Jaws 2020 latest update and I can't seem to read
> > hilighted text on web page.  What I am trying to read are options
> > with y/n
>
> > choices and one of them is hilighted.  I tried to  use a different
> > sound scheme such as attributes and colors, but no joy.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >
> > --
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >          John Covici wb2una
> >          covici@... <mailto:covici@...>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici wb2una
>          covici@... <mailto:covici@...>
>
>
>
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How do
you spend it?

         John Covici wb2una
         covici@...














moderated Re: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

CJ &AA MAY
 

I have a similar problem with the lyrics sent to me by Rock Choir, so a
solution would be much appreciated.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: 16 June 2020 01:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading PDF Documents with Line Numbers

In my work, I frequently have to read transcripts of proceeding where each
of the lines is numbered. When I open a transcript like this in Adobe,
frequently all of the line numbers will be at the top of the page and I have
to keep arrowing down to get to the text. I know this is a unique problem,
but is there anything JAWS can do that will help with this? Right now it
takes me longer to read these documents than it should.