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Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

Eric Ngondi
 

hi Ann, the site is not connecting .... what can i do?

On 2/25/12, epierce@surewest.net <epierce@surewest.net> wrote:
Susan,

This is probably not the simple answer your want.

".pdf" technologies were originally designed long before "accessibility" was
a legal requirement. the whole point was to create a proprietary technology
for doing advanced graphics, *cross-platform*.

As such, any pretense of industry standards was jettisoned early on. In the
IT industry "proprietary" = "profitable".

In a sane world ruled by people who are compassionate and altruistic
(instead of greedy and hungry for ego gratification), ".pdf" would be
banned.

consider the the original definition of "Adobe": a weak building material
made from a mix of clay, straw and animal excrement, shaped into bricks and
baked in the hot sun.

good luck!

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Subject: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!

I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat

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Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

epierce@...
 

Susan,

This is probably not the simple answer your want.

".pdf" technologies were originally designed long before "accessibility" was a legal requirement. the whole point was to create a proprietary technology for doing advanced graphics, *cross-platform*.

As such, any pretense of industry standards was jettisoned early on. In the IT industry "proprietary" = "profitable".

In a sane world ruled by people who are compassionate and altruistic (instead of greedy and hungry for ego gratification), ".pdf" would be banned.

consider the the original definition of "Adobe": a weak building material made from a mix of clay, straw and animal excrement, shaped into bricks and baked in the hot sun.

good luck!

---- Original message ----
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:39:56 -0600
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of "Susan Kallsen" <skallsen@gmail.com>)
Subject: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!

I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat


Re: Dell Support Center

epierce@...
 

Its pretty annoying even for the sighted. Dell does lots of stuff that way, they cuts a lot of corners and drive customers crazy.

They recently changed the layout of support.dell.com significantly, so if someone was used to the previous version, it would presumably be really confusing to try to use the new one.

Off topic:

Dell was given as an example of a company that has very bad business practices in a Forbes magazine article by famed business school guru:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/18/clayton-christensen-how-pursuit-of-profits-kills-innovation-and-the-us-economy/

---- Original message ----
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:38:21 -0500
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com (on behalf of lauren <childress54@gmail.com>)
Subject: Re: Dell Support Center
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com

i've never used it I don't think the dell support center is accessible
with any screen reader.


Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Tom Lange
 

It's a shame that Project Assist lost its grant and couldn't produce any more tutorials. That Word 2002 tutorial was great. Freedom's Word tutorial paled in comparison in my opinion.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Onward Bob" <onwardbob@roadrunner.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


No thank you, I had 2002 and, at least as far as the thesaurus is concerned it's quite different in 2003
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


I have a tutorial for JFW 4.02 and Word 2002. Pretty close, really, to what you're looking for. It was done by the Iowa Project Assist grant, and I still use it. I can send you the install files, if you like.

Ann
At 10:56 AM 2/23/2012, you wrote:
I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in
the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the
A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Jaws and Google Adwords?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

HI folks.

I am currently running an ad campaign through Google's AdWords service, and while I find most of it accessible, I'm having trouble editing my ad text.

Google's help on the matter tells me to go to the campaigns tab then the ads tab. That's easy enough with Jaws. But then it tells me to click the pencil beside the ad I want to edit. There seems to be no accessible element on the page Jaws can latch onto that lets me do this. Checking the checkbox near the ad doesn't bring up additional options, like edit.

Has anybody else managed to figure out a way around this? I'm using Jaws 13 and the latest builds of Internet Explorer and Firefox.
I'm hoping there is in fact some useful element on the page somewhere I can search for and activate, otherwise I'll have to find a handy sighted person to go click on the right graphic.

Thanks for any suggestions or help,

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Re: Dell Support Center

john.falter
 

I occasionally use Dell Support Center on a 32-bit XP system.
IT REQUIRES MUCH TRIAL AND ERROR AND THE use of the JAWS or INVISIBLE cursor.

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From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Dell Support Center


Hello there;

Regarding the dell support center,
Are you looking for drivers?
If you have the service tag number, it makes getting the dell update drivers
easier.
Now, you can fined the service tag on the bottom of a laptop,
Or on the side or top of a desktop.

However there is a way to find the service tag without sight/vision.

DellServiceTag,
Finding your DellServiceTag without sighted assistance.

1. Windows+r=run.

2. Type CMD,press enter.

3. Now type:

wmic bios get serialnumber
press enter.
this will provide you with your DellServiceTag.

If you would like to find a little more information regarding your dell
computer,

You can get even more information beyond the service tag with this command.

You can get the make and model number.

1. Windows+r=run.

2. Type CMD press enter.

Now type in the following:

wmic csproduct get vendor,name,identifyingnumber

hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:02 AM
To: 'JFW-ListJFW'
Subject: Dell Support Center

With JFW 13 in 64-bit, I'm finding the Dell Support Center virtually
inaccessible.

Is anyone using it successfully? What are your display settings, etc.

TIA





Dale E. Heltzer

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Re: Dell Support Center

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

Regarding the dell support center,
Are you looking for drivers?
If you have the service tag number, it makes getting the dell update drivers
easier.
Now, you can fined the service tag on the bottom of a laptop,
Or on the side or top of a desktop.

However there is a way to find the service tag without sight/vision.

DellServiceTag,
Finding your DellServiceTag without sighted assistance.

1. Windows+r=run.

2. Type CMD,press enter.

3. Now type:

wmic bios get serialnumber
press enter.
this will provide you with your DellServiceTag.

If you would like to find a little more information regarding your dell
computer,

You can get even more information beyond the service tag with this command.

You can get the make and model number.

1. Windows+r=run.

2. Type CMD press enter.

Now type in the following:

wmic csproduct get vendor,name,identifyingnumber

hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dale Heltzer
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:02 AM
To: 'JFW-ListJFW'
Subject: Dell Support Center

With JFW 13 in 64-bit, I'm finding the Dell Support Center virtually
inaccessible.

Is anyone using it successfully? What are your display settings, etc.

TIA





Dale E. Heltzer

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Re: Dell Support Center

lauren
 

i've never used it I don't think the dell support center is accessible with any screen reader.

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Dell Support Center

Dale Heltzer
 

With JFW 13 in 64-bit, I'm finding the Dell Support Center virtually
inaccessible.

Is anyone using it successfully? What are your display settings, etc.

TIA





Dale E. Heltzer

deheltzer@msn.com



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OT: Strange Problem

Ketan Kothari <muktaketan@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I have a strange problem from past 3 days:

I am using Windows XP with MS Office 2003. I also have a paid and updated version of AVG Internet Security 2012. I am facing strang problem:

I have grouped mails according to various groups in their respective folders. I had talks and another folder with a lot of mails. All of a sudden all the mails have disabbeared from the folder. But when I see the size of the corresponding folder in C: the size is huge indicating that the mails are still there. What could have happened? Also Can I get them back?

And now today the mails are coming into inbox rather than going into their respective folders. Please help. I am aware that these are not JFW problem but how do I get rid of this problem?

Ketan
Ketan Kothari
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Forms Mode Settings in Quick Settings

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Wasn't this a personalized setting in earlier versions? Now it appears
to be one size fits all, which is unfortunate.



Ted



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using the tab key in word 2007 with jaws 13

John Fioravanti <fioresq1@...>
 

Hi: There is a problem in word where I can't figure out an easy solution.

I am typing a motion in a legal matter. Paragraphs and fonts are set as follows "12 point black times new roman, normal style, line spacing double paragraph formatting, first line indented by 0.5 inches alined left: body text.

Here's what is happening that is vexing. Generally, each paragraph is numbered as I type 1. And hit the tab key once and begin typing that paragraph. (automatic numbers are off). I type 2. And hit the tab key etc.

However, at the bottom of the motion I use a "wherefore clause", which I like to indent. so I hit return and tab twice and type Wherefore: (and begin my request relief sentence). The problem is that when the sentence carries to the next line the beginning of that next line is indented by .5 and my insert+F now tells me "12 point black times new roman, normal style, line spacing double paragraph formatting, first line indented by 0.5 inches left indent of 0.5 inches, alined left: body text. Why is there now an indent of 0.5 inches?

Can someone explain why this is happening: I don't think I have auto format on

The only way for me to remedy the problem is to set the wherefore paragraph to a "first line indent of 1.0 rather than 0.5. There's got to be an easier way. Is it something I have to change in the tab settings? Thanks very much. John


Re: question about kierzwiel 1000

Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@...>
 

There are a lot of people who use Kurzy on the Bookshare volunteer list and I expect that they can help you. To subscribe go to FreeLists.org and do a search for bksvol-discuss and it should turn up.

On 2/23/2012 10:54 PM, brad wrote:
I am new to the list and I am running jaws 13. I know that jaws 13
hibronates when kierzwell 1000 is on but don't know who else to ask. I am
looking for either a detorial or demonstration of the software and how to
use it to scan larger books and to fill out apllications.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?



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Today's Topics:

1. Re: angry ie user (Roger Loran Bailey)
2. checking hardware details with jaws (Nickus de Vos)
3. Re: checking hardware details with jaws (Juan Pablo)
4. Re: angry ie user (sandy stegmayer)
5. RE: checking hardware details with jaws (Roger Levine)
6. Re: angry ie user (Aleeha Dudley)
7. Re: angry ie user (Allen Stutts)
8. Re: angry ie user (sandy stegmayer)
9. Re: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
(Douglas Richard Dexheimer)
10. Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
11. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Marquette, Ed)
12. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (John Fioravanti)
13. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
14. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Marquette, Ed)
15. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
16. RE: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
(John Martyn)
17. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Jean Menzies)
18. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
19. word tutorial for jaws (John Fioravanti)
20. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Ann Byrne)
21. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
22. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Marquette, Ed)
23. RE: word tutorial for jaws (Marquette, Ed)
24. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Ann Byrne)
25. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Ann Byrne)
26. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisa Larges)
27. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Jean Menzies)
28. bypass (Dondi)
29. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Negoslav Sabev)
30. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
31. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
32. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Londa Peterson)
33. RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13 (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
34. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Onward Bob)
35. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
36. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
37. PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Susan Kallsen)
38. Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Eric Ngondi)
39. Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Ann Byrne)
40. RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Susan Kallsen)
41. RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Adrian Spratt)
42. Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Soronel Haetir)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:15:47 -0500
From: Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@aol.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID:<4F4514B3.2020109@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download link I
was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not knowing what it
was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but if I clicked
on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it navigated back to
the browse page and I no longer could download. Does anyone know what I can
do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing is, I didn't do any updates
overnight... that I know of. I swear I have gremlins living in my computer.
UGH!
Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:59:33 +0200
From: Nickus de Vos<bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: checking hardware details with jaws
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Hi all I want to find out where and how can I find my computers
hardware details in windows 7? If right clicking on computer
properties it gives you some info like processor and how many GB ram
but I need more, I need to see my hard drive RPM speeds and my RAM
clock speeds. I know all this info shows on screen when switching on a
computer but there must be some way of accessing it through command
prompt or someware.



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:04:30 -0200
From: "Juan Pablo"<jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: checking hardware details with jaws
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Try with aida 64. completely accessible with jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checking hardware details with jaws

Hi all I want to find out where and how can I find my computers
hardware details in windows 7? If right clicking on computer
properties it gives you some info like processor and how many GB ram
but I need more, I need to see my hard drive RPM speeds and my RAM
clock speeds. I know all this info shows on screen when switching on a
computer but there must be some way of accessing it through command
prompt or someware.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:55 -0500
From: "sandy stegmayer"<ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID:<28FE068A228C49968E320AB1AE2CABBE@sandyPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=response

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel, and close.

Thanks again,
Sandy


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From: "Roger Loran Bailey"<rogerbailey81@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:44:37 -0800
From: "Roger Levine"<rlstation@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: checking hardware details with jaws
Message-ID:<B1E3446C14874741AECD9385876BE3FE@OwnerHP>
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Hi Nickus,
You can get the info by running the Belarc program which is free. The
report it generates is very complete. Below is the web address:
http://www.belarc.com/

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On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checking hardware details with jaws

Hi all I want to find out where and how can I find my computers hardware
details in windows 7? If right clicking on computer properties it gives you
some info like processor and how many GB ram but I need more, I need to see
my hard drive RPM speeds and my RAM clock speeds. I know all this info shows
on screen when switching on a computer but there must be some way of
accessing it through command prompt or someware.

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:47:14 -0500
From: Aleeha Dudley<blindcowgirl1993@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID:<4f452a52.58fbe70a.2620.ffff9426@mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi,
If you hit down arrow on the Save split button, you will get
three options. Save, save as, and save and open. If you hit
enter on save as, you will get your generic save as dialog box.
HTH,
Aleeha

----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer"<ssteg@verizon.net
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:55 -0500
Subject: Re: angry ie user

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in
subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those
subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do
this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel,
and close.

Thanks again,
Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roger Loran Bailey"<rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally.
When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split
button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to
do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the
notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under
owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you
want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to
Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a
download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response.
Not knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned
off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess
what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could
download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The
strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I
swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:50:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Allen Stutts<astutts@mindspring.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID:

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When you get to that Save choice, arrow up and down. You will find a Save As
option that you can hit Enter on. This will give you the Windows Explorer
dialogue box where you can choose to save your files wherever you like.

I have found that after hitting Alt + N I have to tab down and back up again
to get to the Save choice first.

-----Original Message-----
From: sandy stegmayer<ssteg@verizon.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 12:33 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel, and close.

Thanks again,
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roger Loran Bailey"<rogerbailey81@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:49:36 -0500
From: "sandy stegmayer"<ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID:<AFCBFCA36940492FB59EA407D02E105D@sandyPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

Thank you Allen. Got it but I still like the old way better...not as many
steps.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Allen Stutts"<astutts@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:50 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

When you get to that Save choice, arrow up and down. You will find a Save
As option that you can hit Enter on. This will give you the Windows
Explorer dialogue box where you can choose to save your files wherever you
like.

I have found that after hitting Alt + N I have to tab down and back up
again to get to the Save choice first.

-----Original Message-----
From: sandy stegmayer<ssteg@verizon.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 12:33 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in
subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel, and
close.

Thanks again,
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roger Loran Bailey"<rogerbailey81@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not
knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:05:22 -0600
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer"<drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
Message-ID:<61E9D4814F0B4CF98694E5E5460C03C8@bap4chicago>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Did you send this before writing a reply, or was the message chopped at the
top?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: Help needed with a script for selecting next character



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:19:06 -0500
From: "Robbie Curtis"<essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "jfw"<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:<06C54F62ACB84070BB32D4C6AA8FD1D1@RobbiePC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone know
an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All help
will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:24:49 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3 (and
beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote them,
and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt plus the top
row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply styles for
levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up the styles
dialog box.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone know
an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All help
will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:42:49 -0500
From: "John Fioravanti"<fioresq1@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
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From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:49:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis<essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Hi Ed,

First of all, thanks for the information. I have tried playing with the
styles list and when I choose one, I don't seem to be getting subordinate
headings. What am I doing wrong? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Fioravanti<fioresq1@comcast.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 5:42 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
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From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:04:05 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for heading
1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it outline.
at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use your
soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text first,
leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level 1
is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9), you
are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and uncheck
"task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and I
do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.


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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:08:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis<essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 6:04 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word

Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for
heading 1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it
outline. at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use your
soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text first,
leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level 1
is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9), you
are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and uncheck
"task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and
I do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


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On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:22:38 -0800
From: "John Martyn"<johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
Message-ID:<000001ccf1b8$dea1e490$9be5adb0$@gmail.com>
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I think the message got chopped. Here is the script
Script SelectNextChar()
SelectNextCharacter ()
EndScript
In the JKM file make sure under common keys that you have
Shift+RightArrow=SelectNextChar
I suggest creating the script first and assigning it some shortcut keys not
used by JAWS or you will get a warning.
If you select the next character, it will speak the character and then speak
what you have selected so far.
Hope this helps,
John Martyn
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On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Help needed with a script for selecting next character

Did you send this before writing a reply, or was the message chopped at the
top?

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:29:09 -0700
From: "Jean Menzies"<jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:<1215D2B8725E427D9860D00222BD8630@office>
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Rob,

I would be very careful in editing your built-in styles unless you really
understand how to manipulate styles and templates.

Are you wanting to create an outline with a hierarchy such as I 1. i 1)
etc.? Sorry but I don't know the correct outline order off the top of my
head. If you do, then you simply choose numbered outline style on the format

menu.

The following refers to Word 2003, but the concepts are the same.

Taken from
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/create-an-outline-numbered-list-
HP005186044.aspx

Create an outline numbered list

Applies to:
Microsoft Office Word 2003

Print
Show All Show All

An
outline numbered list
shows list items at different levels rather than indented at one level.

Outline numbered list

list of 2 items
1. On the Format menu, click Bullets and Numbering, and then click the
Outline Numbered tab.
2. Click a list format that does not contain the text "Heading", and then
click
OK.
list end

The first number of the list is displayed in the document.

list of 1 items
3. Type the list text, pressing ENTER after each item.
list end

Subsequent numbers are automatically inserted at the beginning of each line
at the same numbering level.

list of 1 items
4. To move an outline numbered item to the appropriate numbering level, do
one of the following on the Formatting
toolbar :
list of 2 items nesting level 1
. To demote the item to a lower numbering level, click a list number, and
click Increase Indent
Button image
.
. To promote the item to a higher numbering level, click a list number, and

click Decrease Indent
Button image
.
list end nesting level 1
list end
Jean




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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:10:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis<essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:

<7298790.1329955855557.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Thanks Jean.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Menzies<jemenzies@shaw.ca>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 6:29 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Rob,

I would be very careful in editing your built-in styles unless you really
understand how to manipulate styles and templates.

Are you wanting to create an outline with a hierarchy such as I 1. i 1)
etc.? Sorry but I don't know the correct outline order off the top of my
head. If you do, then you simply choose numbered outline style on the
format
menu.

The following refers to Word 2003, but the concepts are the same.

Taken from
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/create-an-outline-numbered-list
-HP005186044.aspx
Create an outline numbered list

Applies to:
Microsoft Office Word 2003

Print
Show All Show All

An
outline numbered list
shows list items at different levels rather than indented at one level.

Outline numbered list

list of 2 items
1. On the Format menu, click Bullets and Numbering, and then click the
Outline Numbered tab.
2. Click a list format that does not contain the text "Heading", and then
click
OK.
list end

The first number of the list is displayed in the document.

list of 1 items
3. Type the list text, pressing ENTER after each item.
list end

Subsequent numbers are automatically inserted at the beginning of each line
at the same numbering level.

list of 1 items
4. To move an outline numbered item to the appropriate numbering level, do
one of the following on the Formatting
toolbar :
list of 2 items nesting level 1
. To demote the item to a lower numbering level, click a list number, and
click Increase Indent
Button image
.
. To promote the item to a higher numbering level, click a list number,
and
click Decrease Indent
Button image
.
list end nesting level 1
list end
Jean


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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:18:43 -0500
From: "John Fioravanti"<fioresq1@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: word tutorial for jaws
Message-ID:<9DB2E306B2F1434BBB9FE593291045BA@pianoman>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Ed and others: I'm also an attorney and just started using word, switching
from word perfect. Could you recommend a good tutorial for word with jaws
that would describe styles headings and the like? I especially need help
with these concepts for brief writing. Motions and the like don't present a
problem for me. I need to learn the more advanced concepts. Thanks in
advance. John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for
heading 1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it
outline. at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use
your soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text
first, leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level
1 is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9),
you are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and
uncheck "task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and
I do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and
begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:20:49 -0600
From: Ann Byrne<annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!





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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:37:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis<essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Ann,

Will I need to have lists turned on or how can I get it to show the capital
letters? I've been playing with the numbered lists, but it's not exactly
what in the order that I want. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne<annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 7:20 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:40:13 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:

<EA96CB6B01F3834281A5EAFEB4979275337D8A22E8@XC0102.firm.kutakrock.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to be
numbered?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:42:25 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: word tutorial for jaws
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Freedom Scientific itself used to have a pretty good tutorial on styles and
headings. It was released long enough ago that it was on cassette. If
someone has seen something more recently, or if that is on the FS Website,
you might want to chime in.
The principles in the tutorial were for Word 2003, but they carry forward.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: word tutorial for jaws

Ed and others: I'm also an attorney and just started using word, switching
from word perfect. Could you recommend a good tutorial for word with jaws
that would describe styles headings and the like? I especially need help
with these concepts for brief writing. Motions and the like don't present a
problem for me. I need to learn the more advanced concepts. Thanks in
advance. John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed"<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for
heading 1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it
outline. at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use
your soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text
first, leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level
1 is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9),
you are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and
uncheck "task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and
I do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and
begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


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On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:49:41 -0600
From: Ann Byrne<annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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I think, maybe, you can backspace out the numbers. Maybe.

I don't do that beautiful sophisticated stuff, though.
At 06:40 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs
to be numbered?


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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:54 -0600
From: Ann Byrne<annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Use the applications menu. But if you just start typing what you
wish for, Word does a good job of reading your mind.
At 06:37 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Hi Ann,

Will I need to have lists turned on or how can I get it to show the
capital letters? I've been playing with the numbered lists, but
it's not exactly what in the order that I want. Thanks.

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Sent: Feb 22, 2012 7:20 PM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:55:18 -0600
From: "Lisa Larges"<llarges@tamfs.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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I would select the text that you want to have as block text and then go to
numbering, (alt H then N) and arrowing tonone. When you resume your
outline, you can start by typing in the next number, or you can go back to
numbering and tab over to "Start at #"


Lisa Larges

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On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word

Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to be
numbered?


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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space to
the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in the
text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If you
want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing anything and
the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the A to fill in the
text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and you
will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they will
appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:31:18 -0700
From: "Jean Menzies"<jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:<11F43587EA614560885DB3BBF34740C7@office>
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Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard method
but couldn't remember it or find it.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:46:58 -0700
From: "Dondi"<zidnod63@gmail.com>
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Hello Everyone,



I know about the bypass key insert+3. But is there anyway to turn this
bypass feature on so it stays on until I turn it off?

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Message: 29
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:15:10 +0200
From: "Negoslav Sabev"<negi4a@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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As long as you press shift+enter the paragraphs will not be numbered. When
you press enter the numbering continues.
Negoslav
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:49 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


I think, maybe, you can backspace out the numbers. Maybe.

I don't do that beautiful sophisticated stuff, though.
At 06:40 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to be
numbered?


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

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Message: 30
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:55:25 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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You might try hitting shift-enter. You can also turn numbers on and
off, but I'd have to hunt around to recall how. It may be under one of
the Options tabs. Highlight the paragraph mark, make the change for as
many paragraphs as you want, then turn them back on the same way.

Ted

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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word

I think, maybe, you can backspace out the numbers. Maybe.

I don't do that beautiful sophisticated stuff, though.
At 06:40 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to
be numbered?


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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 31
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:58:50 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
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If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in
the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the
A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 32
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:54:40 -0500
From: "Londa Peterson"<lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'"<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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In Word 2007 and 2010 you can press enter on the multi-level list button on
the home tab. It will let you choose from all different kinds of bullets
and various styles of outline numbering. You tab to demote an item and
shift tab to bring an item out again. Using the headings method is great if
you're going to insert text later, but it isn't really necessary if you just
need a basic outline. Also, your fonts will be all different styles and
sizes if you use headings to do this.

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On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Rob,

I would be very careful in editing your built-in styles unless you really
understand how to manipulate styles and templates.

Are you wanting to create an outline with a hierarchy such as I 1. i 1)
etc.? Sorry but I don't know the correct outline order off the top of my
head. If you do, then you simply choose numbered outline style on the format

menu.

The following refers to Word 2003, but the concepts are the same.

Taken from
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/create-an-outline-numbered-list-
HP005186044.aspx

Create an outline numbered list

Applies to:
Microsoft Office Word 2003

Print
Show All Show All

An
outline numbered list
shows list items at different levels rather than indented at one level.

Outline numbered list

list of 2 items
1. On the Format menu, click Bullets and Numbering, and then click the
Outline Numbered tab.
2. Click a list format that does not contain the text "Heading", and then
click
OK.
list end

The first number of the list is displayed in the document.

list of 1 items
3. Type the list text, pressing ENTER after each item.
list end

Subsequent numbers are automatically inserted at the beginning of each line
at the same numbering level.

list of 1 items
4. To move an outline numbered item to the appropriate numbering level, do
one of the following on the Formatting
toolbar :
list of 2 items nesting level 1
. To demote the item to a lower numbering level, click a list number, and
click Increase Indent
Button image
.
. To promote the item to a higher numbering level, click a list number, and

click Decrease Indent
Button image
.
list end nesting level 1
list end
Jean


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Message: 33
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:31:49 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13
Message-ID:
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Looks as if one size may not fit all; no wonder it's so tricky.
Slideshow works like a charm on some presentations, while with others
tabbing from object to object, and using Say All on each, works better

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS
DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

Okay, Ann. I'm just trying to get the thing to read, and that ribbon
thing was truly odd. Those shortcuts ought to be in the help file, but
I'll certainly keep them around. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

In case you don't have this already, here is an address for keyboard
shortcuts for PowerPoint.

Good luck!


<http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/PowerPoint_2010.html>http://www.sho
rtcutworld.com/en/win/PowerPoint_2010.html
At 01:41 PM 2/21/2012, you wrote:
Okay, John. I think I tried slideshow several squares back, and it was
horrible, but that was then, and this is now.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

When I took an office 2007 class I had this very same issue. When
editing the pages or viewing them, don't use the preview within the
program. Use the slideshow directly from the file and it avoids this
issue.
John

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:05 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

In light of yesterday's Power Point discussion, I was messing around
last night with a file I happened to have on hand, but could never read
for money marbles, or chalk. I rotated views, shrank, and enlarged,
and finally, quite by accident, found a solution. If I engaged the
Office ribbon menu, prior to invoking Say All, a slide would read
perfectly.
Otherwise, it would go straight down to the bottom of the presentation,
and emit a string of dings (imagine a vibraphone player doing a drum
roll with his mallets), telling me it was hitting bottom over and over
again. Does this sound as crazy to you guys as it does to me?



Ted



Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574,
X 2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.





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Message: 34
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:56:58 -0800
From: "Onward Bob"<onwardbob@roadrunner.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:<0DE1781ADA9543EEA07964D3F6F1E8B5@D6Q3VFC1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it work
with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with the
thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to track
it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne"<annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in
the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the
A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 35
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:13:10 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:
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I went straight from 2000 to 2007 at home. We had 2003 for several
years here, but I think my thesaurus problems came with the ribbon. The
App key definitely works in 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Onward Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it
work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with
the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to
track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne"<annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman
II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 36
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:57:33 -0500
From: "Robbie Curtis"<essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:<606C75670AF14AFAA0A62D1D33E0469D@RobbiePC>
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Thanks to all for your assistance. I just needed a simple numbered outline
for the assignment. Sorry if I didn't mention that before. Anyway, thanks
everybody!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


I went straight from 2000 to 2007 at home. We had 2003 for several
years here, but I think my thesaurus problems came with the ribbon. The
App key definitely works in 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Onward Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it
work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with
the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to
track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)"<Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne"<annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman
II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 37
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:39:56 -0600
From: "Susan Kallsen"<skallsen@gmail.com>
To:<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online in a
browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads everything very
well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab INTO the actual PDF, it
just tabs between the URL and other things at the top of the page in
Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Message: 38
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:37:43 +0300
From: Eric Ngondi<eric.ngondi@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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hi all,
susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or
"empty document " anybody please to help us???

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen<skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:

I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online in a
browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads everything very
well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab INTO the actual PDF,
it
just tabs between the URL and other things at the top of the page in
Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual document?



Thanks!



Susan

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question about kierzwiel 1000

brad
 

I am new to the list and I am running jaws 13. I know that jaws 13
hibronates when kierzwell 1000 is on but don't know who else to ask. I am
looking for either a detorial or demonstration of the software and how to
use it to scan larger books and to fill out apllications.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: angry ie user (Roger Loran Bailey)
2. checking hardware details with jaws (Nickus de Vos)
3. Re: checking hardware details with jaws (Juan Pablo)
4. Re: angry ie user (sandy stegmayer)
5. RE: checking hardware details with jaws (Roger Levine)
6. Re: angry ie user (Aleeha Dudley)
7. Re: angry ie user (Allen Stutts)
8. Re: angry ie user (sandy stegmayer)
9. Re: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
(Douglas Richard Dexheimer)
10. Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
11. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Marquette, Ed)
12. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (John Fioravanti)
13. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
14. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Marquette, Ed)
15. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
16. RE: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
(John Martyn)
17. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Jean Menzies)
18. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
19. word tutorial for jaws (John Fioravanti)
20. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Ann Byrne)
21. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
22. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Marquette, Ed)
23. RE: word tutorial for jaws (Marquette, Ed)
24. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Ann Byrne)
25. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Ann Byrne)
26. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisa Larges)
27. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Jean Menzies)
28. bypass (Dondi)
29. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Negoslav Sabev)
30. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
31. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
32. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Londa Peterson)
33. RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13 (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
34. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Onward Bob)
35. RE: Creating an Outline in Word (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS))
36. Re: Creating an Outline in Word (Robbie Curtis)
37. PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Susan Kallsen)
38. Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Eric Ngondi)
39. Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Ann Byrne)
40. RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Susan Kallsen)
41. RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Adrian Spratt)
42. Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser) (Soronel Haetir)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:15:47 -0500
From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@aol.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID: <4F4514B3.2020109@aol.com>
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It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download link I
was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not knowing what it
was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but if I clicked
on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it navigated back to
the browse page and I no longer could download. Does anyone know what I can
do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing is, I didn't do any updates
overnight... that I know of. I swear I have gremlins living in my computer.
UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:59:33 +0200
From: Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: checking hardware details with jaws
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Hi all I want to find out where and how can I find my computers
hardware details in windows 7? If right clicking on computer
properties it gives you some info like processor and how many GB ram
but I need more, I need to see my hard drive RPM speeds and my RAM
clock speeds. I know all this info shows on screen when switching on a
computer but there must be some way of accessing it through command
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:04:30 -0200
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: checking hardware details with jaws
Message-ID: <7CD15D720FB8465482C4B1AD2268BBEA@Orion14>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Try with aida 64. completely accessible with jaws.

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From: Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checking hardware details with jaws

Hi all I want to find out where and how can I find my computers
hardware details in windows 7? If right clicking on computer
properties it gives you some info like processor and how many GB ram
but I need more, I need to see my hard drive RPM speeds and my RAM
clock speeds. I know all this info shows on screen when switching on a
computer but there must be some way of accessing it through command
prompt or someware.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:55 -0500
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
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reply-type=response

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel, and close.

Thanks again,
Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:44:37 -0800
From: "Roger Levine" <rlstation@earthlink.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: checking hardware details with jaws
Message-ID: <B1E3446C14874741AECD9385876BE3FE@OwnerHP>
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Hi Nickus,
You can get the info by running the Belarc program which is free. The
report it generates is very complete. Below is the web address:
http://www.belarc.com/

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On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: checking hardware details with jaws

Hi all I want to find out where and how can I find my computers hardware
details in windows 7? If right clicking on computer properties it gives you
some info like processor and how many GB ram but I need more, I need to see
my hard drive RPM speeds and my RAM clock speeds. I know all this info shows
on screen when switching on a computer but there must be some way of
accessing it through command prompt or someware.

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:47:14 -0500
From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID: <4f452a52.58fbe70a.2620.ffff9426@mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi,
If you hit down arrow on the Save split button, you will get
three options. Save, save as, and save and open. If you hit
enter on save as, you will get your generic save as dialog box.
HTH,
Aleeha

----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:33:55 -0500
Subject: Re: angry ie user

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in
subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those
subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do
this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel,
and close.

Thanks again,
Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally.
When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split
button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to
do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the
notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under
owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you
want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to
Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a
download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response.
Not knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned
off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess
what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could
download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The
strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I
swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:50:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Allen Stutts <astutts@mindspring.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
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When you get to that Save choice, arrow up and down. You will find a Save As
option that you can hit Enter on. This will give you the Windows Explorer
dialogue box where you can choose to save your files wherever you like.

I have found that after hitting Alt + N I have to tab down and back up again
to get to the Save choice first.

-----Original Message-----
From: sandy stegmayer <ssteg@verizon.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 12:33 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel, and close.

Thanks again,
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:49:36 -0500
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user
Message-ID: <AFCBFCA36940492FB59EA407D02E105D@sandyPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

Thank you Allen. Got it but I still like the old way better...not as many
steps.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Allen Stutts" <astutts@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:50 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

When you get to that Save choice, arrow up and down. You will find a Save
As option that you can hit Enter on. This will give you the Windows
Explorer dialogue box where you can choose to save your files wherever you
like.

I have found that after hitting Alt + N I have to tab down and back up
again to get to the Save choice first.

-----Original Message-----
From: sandy stegmayer <ssteg@verizon.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 12:33 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

Thank you both...
I follow wwhat you said and it works. I like to file my books in
subfolders
at the time of download so when I want them I go through those subfolders
rather than the extensive list of downloads I have. How can I do this when
downloading this way?
When I hit alt-n the only choices I have are open, save, cancel, and
close.

Thanks again,
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:15 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: angry ie user

It sounds to me like Internet Explorer 9 is behaving normally. When You
get that prompt just press alt+N and tab to the save split button. Click
that and wait for the download to complete. You might want to do another
alt+N again and tab to the close button to close the notification bar.
Your zipped download will be found in the download folder under owner.
From there you can unzip it or move it to what ever folder you want to
move it to.

On 2/22/2012 11:03 AM, sandy stegmayer wrote:
I have no idea what happened. Yesterday when I went to Bookshare.org, I
had no problem downloading. This morning when I clicked on a download
link I was told that the Notification Bar needed a response. Not
knowing
what it was I went to help and found that it couldn't be turned off but
if I clicked on no, it would close. Okay, I did that and guess what, it
navigated back to the browse page and I no longer could download. Does
anyone know what I can do other than go back to IE 8? The strange thing
is, I didn't do any updates overnight... that I know of. I swear I have
gremlins living in my computer. UGH!

Thanks for any help,
Sandy
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:05:22 -0600
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
Message-ID: <61E9D4814F0B4CF98694E5E5460C03C8@bap4chicago>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Did you send this before writing a reply, or was the message chopped at the
top?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-409-6163
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: Help needed with a script for selecting next character




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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:19:06 -0500
From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID: <06C54F62ACB84070BB32D4C6AA8FD1D1@RobbiePC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone know
an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All help
will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:24:49 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3 (and
beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote them,
and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt plus the top
row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply styles for
levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up the styles
dialog box.


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On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone know
an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All help
will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:42:49 -0500
From: "John Fioravanti" <fioresq1@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


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On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:49:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis <essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Hi Ed,

First of all, thanks for the information. I have tried playing with the
styles list and when I choose one, I don't seem to be getting subordinate
headings. What am I doing wrong? Thanks.

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From: John Fioravanti <fioresq1@comcast.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 5:42 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:04:05 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for heading
1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it outline.
at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use your
soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text first,
leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level 1
is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9), you
are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and uncheck
"task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and I
do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.


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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
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From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


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On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS? All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:08:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis <essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 6:04 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word

Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for
heading 1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it
outline. at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use your
soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text first,
leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level 1
is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9), you
are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and uncheck
"task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and
I do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:22:38 -0800
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Help needed with a script for selecting next character
Message-ID: <000001ccf1b8$dea1e490$9be5adb0$@gmail.com>
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I think the message got chopped. Here is the script
Script SelectNextChar()
SelectNextCharacter ()
EndScript
In the JKM file make sure under common keys that you have
Shift+RightArrow=SelectNextChar
I suggest creating the script first and assigning it some shortcut keys not
used by JAWS or you will get a warning.
If you select the next character, it will speak the character and then speak
what you have selected so far.
Hope this helps,
John Martyn
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On Behalf Of Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Help needed with a script for selecting next character

Did you send this before writing a reply, or was the message chopped at the
top?

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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:54 PM
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:29:09 -0700
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Rob,

I would be very careful in editing your built-in styles unless you really
understand how to manipulate styles and templates.

Are you wanting to create an outline with a hierarchy such as I 1. i 1)
etc.? Sorry but I don't know the correct outline order off the top of my
head. If you do, then you simply choose numbered outline style on the format

menu.

The following refers to Word 2003, but the concepts are the same.

Taken from
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/create-an-outline-numbered-list-
HP005186044.aspx

Create an outline numbered list

Applies to:
Microsoft Office Word 2003

Print
Show All Show All

An
outline numbered list
shows list items at different levels rather than indented at one level.

Outline numbered list

list of 2 items
1. On the Format menu, click Bullets and Numbering, and then click the
Outline Numbered tab.
2. Click a list format that does not contain the text "Heading", and then
click
OK.
list end

The first number of the list is displayed in the document.

list of 1 items
3. Type the list text, pressing ENTER after each item.
list end

Subsequent numbers are automatically inserted at the beginning of each line
at the same numbering level.

list of 1 items
4. To move an outline numbered item to the appropriate numbering level, do
one of the following on the Formatting
toolbar :
list of 2 items nesting level 1
. To demote the item to a lower numbering level, click a list number, and
click Increase Indent
Button image
.
. To promote the item to a higher numbering level, click a list number, and

click Decrease Indent
Button image
.
list end nesting level 1
list end
Jean




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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:10:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis <essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Thanks Jean.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Menzies <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 6:29 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Rob,

I would be very careful in editing your built-in styles unless you really
understand how to manipulate styles and templates.

Are you wanting to create an outline with a hierarchy such as I 1. i 1)
etc.? Sorry but I don't know the correct outline order off the top of my
head. If you do, then you simply choose numbered outline style on the
format
menu.

The following refers to Word 2003, but the concepts are the same.

Taken from
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/create-an-outline-numbered-list
-HP005186044.aspx

Create an outline numbered list

Applies to:
Microsoft Office Word 2003

Print
Show All Show All

An
outline numbered list
shows list items at different levels rather than indented at one level.

Outline numbered list

list of 2 items
1. On the Format menu, click Bullets and Numbering, and then click the
Outline Numbered tab.
2. Click a list format that does not contain the text "Heading", and then
click
OK.
list end

The first number of the list is displayed in the document.

list of 1 items
3. Type the list text, pressing ENTER after each item.
list end

Subsequent numbers are automatically inserted at the beginning of each line
at the same numbering level.

list of 1 items
4. To move an outline numbered item to the appropriate numbering level, do
one of the following on the Formatting
toolbar :
list of 2 items nesting level 1
. To demote the item to a lower numbering level, click a list number, and
click Increase Indent
Button image
.
. To promote the item to a higher numbering level, click a list number,
and
click Decrease Indent
Button image
.
list end nesting level 1
list end
Jean


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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:18:43 -0500
From: "John Fioravanti" <fioresq1@comcast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: word tutorial for jaws
Message-ID: <9DB2E306B2F1434BBB9FE593291045BA@pianoman>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Ed and others: I'm also an attorney and just started using word, switching
from word perfect. Could you recommend a good tutorial for word with jaws
that would describe styles headings and the like? I especially need help
with these concepts for brief writing. Motions and the like don't present a
problem for me. I need to learn the more advanced concepts. Thanks in
advance. John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for
heading 1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it
outline. at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use
your soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text
first, leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level
1 is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9),
you are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and
uncheck "task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and
I do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and
begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
essence64@earthlink.net
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:20:49 -0600
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!





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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:37:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Robbie Curtis <essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Ann,

Will I need to have lists turned on or how can I get it to show the capital
letters? I've been playing with the numbered lists, but it's not exactly
what in the order that I want. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Feb 22, 2012 7:20 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:40:13 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
Message-ID:

<EA96CB6B01F3834281A5EAFEB4979275337D8A22E8@XC0102.firm.kutakrock.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to be
numbered?


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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:42:25 -0600
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: word tutorial for jaws
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Freedom Scientific itself used to have a pretty good tutorial on styles and
headings. It was released long enough ago that it was on cassette. If
someone has seen something more recently, or if that is on the FS Website,
you might want to chime in.
The principles in the tutorial were for Word 2003, but they carry forward.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: word tutorial for jaws

Ed and others: I'm also an attorney and just started using word, switching
from word perfect. Could you recommend a good tutorial for word with jaws
that would describe styles headings and the like? I especially need help
with these concepts for brief writing. Motions and the like don't present a
problem for me. I need to learn the more advanced concepts. Thanks in
advance. John
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From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Guys:
Here is a suggestion.
Type your heading first
To apply the style, you can go to the styles list or press Alt 1 for
heading 1 (Note, you may have to hit bypass first, Insert plus 3).
Now, if your headings aren't set up for outline numbering, you may need to
modify the styles.
If you do outlines lots, you can create a template file, calling it
outline. at (it may be datx in Word 2007 or 2010. Actually, you can use
your soon-to-be created outline as a template. Just delete the text
first, leaving only a couple of carriage returns. The styles will stick.
To modify the styles, get into the format/styles ribbon/menu.
Right click with the mouse on modify.
Then, open the format menu. You can format your heading any way you like,
e.g., bold, italics, solid capitals, or whatever.
If you go down the list, you will find numbering as an option. Be sure to
choose "outline." Then, double-check to be sure that, for example, level
1 is an I.. Repeat the same for heading level 2.
Once you've finished as far down as you like (you can go to heading 9),
you are ready. You may want to close the "styles" area. Go to view and
uncheck "task pane."
Now you are ready.
Type your heading 1. Then, apply heading 1. The style should apply the
appropriate heading number and apply the appropriate font and attribute.
The fonts and attributes will last until a carriage return.
It takes a little playing around at first, but thereafter, it is a breeze.
For instance, I use styles every single day for every single document, and
I do scores of documents a week, mostly complex legal agreements.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Fioravanti
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi: When I go to styles and go to heading one and hit enter on it and
begin
to type nothing shows. Must I do something after choosing the styoe to get
back into the man screen? Thanks.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Check out "Styles." You should be able to modify Headings 1 through 3
(and beyond if necessary) so that the numbering is outline appropriate.
Having done that, you can move around the headings, promote and demote
them, and change them. Remember, you can apply the headings with Alt
plus
the top row numbers 1 through 3 (at least). I think you have to apply
styles for levels 4 and beyond, but control plus shift plus s brings up
the styles dialog box.


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On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:19 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Creating an Outline in Word

Hi All:

I have an assignment in which I need to create an outline. Does anyone
know an easy way to accomplish this in Word 2007 and 2010 using JAWS?
All
help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I use JAWS 13.

Robbie J. Curtis
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:49:41 -0600
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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I think, maybe, you can backspace out the numbers. Maybe.

I don't do that beautiful sophisticated stuff, though.
At 06:40 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs
to be numbered?


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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:52:54 -0600
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Use the applications menu. But if you just start typing what you
wish for, Word does a good job of reading your mind.
At 06:37 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Hi Ann,

Will I need to have lists turned on or how can I get it to show the
capital letters? I've been playing with the numbered lists, but
it's not exactly what in the order that I want. Thanks.

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Sent: Feb 22, 2012 7:20 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:55:18 -0600
From: "Lisa Larges" <llarges@tamfs.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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I would select the text that you want to have as block text and then go to
numbering, (alt H then N) and arrowing tonone. When you resume your
outline, you can start by typing in the next number, or you can go back to
numbering and tab over to "Start at #"


Lisa Larges

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On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word

Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to be
numbered?


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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space to
the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in the
text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If you
want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing anything and
the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the A to fill in the
text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and you
will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they will
appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:31:18 -0700
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard method
but couldn't remember it or find it.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:46:58 -0700
From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
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Hello Everyone,



I know about the bypass key insert+3. But is there anyway to turn this
bypass feature on so it stays on until I turn it off?

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Message: 29
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:15:10 +0200
From: "Negoslav Sabev" <negi4a@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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As long as you press shift+enter the paragraphs will not be numbered. When
you press enter the numbering continues.
Negoslav
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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:49 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


I think, maybe, you can backspace out the numbers. Maybe.

I don't do that beautiful sophisticated stuff, though.
At 06:40 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to be
numbered?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double
space to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter
and you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 30
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:55:25 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
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Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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You might try hitting shift-enter. You can also turn numbers on and
off, but I'd have to hunt around to recall how. It may be under one of
the Options tabs. Highlight the paragraph mark, make the change for as
many paragraphs as you want, then turn them back on the same way.

Ted

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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word

I think, maybe, you can backspace out the numbers. Maybe.

I don't do that beautiful sophisticated stuff, though.
At 06:40 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:
Ann:
What happens if you want block paragraphs under a heading, possibly
separated by carriage returns, and you don't want those paragraphs to
be numbered?


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

If I were doing it.

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 31
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:58:50 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
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Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
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Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in
the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the
A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 32
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:54:40 -0500
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@tricountyblind.org>
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Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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In Word 2007 and 2010 you can press enter on the multi-level list button on
the home tab. It will let you choose from all different kinds of bullets
and various styles of outline numbering. You tab to demote an item and
shift tab to bring an item out again. Using the headings method is great if
you're going to insert text later, but it isn't really necessary if you just
need a basic outline. Also, your fonts will be all different styles and
sizes if you use headings to do this.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Rob,

I would be very careful in editing your built-in styles unless you really
understand how to manipulate styles and templates.

Are you wanting to create an outline with a hierarchy such as I 1. i 1)
etc.? Sorry but I don't know the correct outline order off the top of my
head. If you do, then you simply choose numbered outline style on the format

menu.

The following refers to Word 2003, but the concepts are the same.

Taken from
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/create-an-outline-numbered-list-
HP005186044.aspx

Create an outline numbered list

Applies to:
Microsoft Office Word 2003

Print
Show All Show All

An
outline numbered list
shows list items at different levels rather than indented at one level.

Outline numbered list

list of 2 items
1. On the Format menu, click Bullets and Numbering, and then click the
Outline Numbered tab.
2. Click a list format that does not contain the text "Heading", and then
click
OK.
list end

The first number of the list is displayed in the document.

list of 1 items
3. Type the list text, pressing ENTER after each item.
list end

Subsequent numbers are automatically inserted at the beginning of each line
at the same numbering level.

list of 1 items
4. To move an outline numbered item to the appropriate numbering level, do
one of the following on the Formatting
toolbar :
list of 2 items nesting level 1
. To demote the item to a lower numbering level, click a list number, and
click Increase Indent
Button image
.
. To promote the item to a higher numbering level, click a list number, and

click Decrease Indent
Button image
.
list end nesting level 1
list end
Jean


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Message: 33
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 09:31:49 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13
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Looks as if one size may not fit all; no wonder it's so tricky.
Slideshow works like a charm on some presentations, while with others
tabbing from object to object, and using Say All on each, works better

Ted

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS
DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

Okay, Ann. I'm just trying to get the thing to read, and that ribbon
thing was truly odd. Those shortcuts ought to be in the help file, but
I'll certainly keep them around. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

In case you don't have this already, here is an address for keyboard
shortcuts for PowerPoint.

Good luck!


<http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/PowerPoint_2010.html>http://www.sho
rtcutworld.com/en/win/PowerPoint_2010.html
At 01:41 PM 2/21/2012, you wrote:
Okay, John. I think I tried slideshow several squares back, and it was
horrible, but that was then, and this is now.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

When I took an office 2007 class I had this very same issue. When
editing the pages or viewing them, don't use the preview within the
program. Use the slideshow directly from the file and it avoids this
issue.
John

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On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:05 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Power Point 2007 and JAWS 13

In light of yesterday's Power Point discussion, I was messing around
last night with a file I happened to have on hand, but could never read
for money marbles, or chalk. I rotated views, shrank, and enlarged,
and finally, quite by accident, found a solution. If I engaged the
Office ribbon menu, prior to invoking Say All, a slide would read
perfectly.
Otherwise, it would go straight down to the bottom of the presentation,
and emit a string of dings (imagine a vibraphone player doing a drum
roll with his mallets), telling me it was hitting bottom over and over
again. Does this sound as crazy to you guys as it does to me?



Ted



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Message: 34
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:56:58 -0800
From: "Onward Bob" <onwardbob@roadrunner.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it work
with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with the
thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to track
it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in
the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the
A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 35
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:13:10 -0500
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word
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I went straight from 2000 to 2007 at home. We had 2003 for several
years here, but I think my thesaurus problems came with the ribbon. The
App key definitely works in 2007.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Onward Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it
work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with
the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to
track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman
II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 36
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:57:33 -0500
From: "Robbie Curtis" <essence64@earthlink.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word
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Thanks to all for your assistance. I just needed a simple numbered outline
for the assignment. Sorry if I didn't mention that before. Anyway, thanks
everybody!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


I went straight from 2000 to 2007 at home. We had 2003 for several
years here, but I think my thesaurus problems came with the ribbon. The
App key definitely works in 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Onward Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it
work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with
the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to
track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman
II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Message: 37
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:39:56 -0600
From: "Susan Kallsen" <skallsen@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online in a
browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads everything very
well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab INTO the actual PDF, it
just tabs between the URL and other things at the top of the page in
Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Message: 38
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:37:43 +0300
From: Eric Ngondi <eric.ngondi@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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hi all,
susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or
"empty document " anybody please to help us???

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:


I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online in a
browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads everything very
well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab INTO the actual PDF,
it
just tabs between the URL and other things at the top of the page in
Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Message: 39
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:49:41 -0600
From: Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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Hi, Eric,

Send the document to convert@robobraille.org, placing in the subject
line the type of file you want returned, such as .txt or .doc. It
will come back within a few hours or less, translated into the format
you wrote in the subject line.

Best,

Ann

At 02:37 PM 2/23/2012, you wrote:
hi all,
susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or
"empty document " anybody please to help us???

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:


I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online in
a
browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads everything very
well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab INTO the
actual PDF, it
just tabs between the URL and other things at the top of the page in
Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Message: 40
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:33:39 -0600
From: "Susan Kallsen" <skallsen@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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I have to add an IE question to this also!

My PDF is read by JAWS accurately in Firefox (as long as my cursor is
manually placed into the text area, see my issue with this below) but I just
tried it in Internet Explorer and it's not even recognizing it if I manually
place my cursor in the document.

More info: I created this in Acrobat Pro using all of the Accessibility tags
and edits necessary for it to "pass" as an entirely accessible document.

Welcome any tips or ideas! Thanks,

Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Eric Ngondi
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

hi all,
susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or "empty
document " anybody please to help us???

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:


I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online
in a browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads
everything very well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab
INTO the actual PDF, it just tabs between the URL and other things at
the top of the page in Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual
document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Message: 41
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:48:43 -0500
From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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Have you tried switching to the JAWS cursor? If that cursor takes you inside
the PDF form, try pressing JAWS key+numpad + to route the PC cursor to the
JAWS cursor.

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On Behalf Of Susan Kallsen
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:40 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)



I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online in a
browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads everything very
well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab INTO the actual PDF, it
just tabs between the URL and other things at the top of the page in
Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:15:20 -0900
From: Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
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Honestly, even when I could still see I never had success with acrobat
hosted in the browser. Even then I was pretty much stuck saving the
file and loading it in reader.

Is having the PDF be a browser hosted form really a make or break issue for
you?

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:
I have to add an IE question to this also!

My PDF is read by JAWS accurately in Firefox (as long as my cursor is
manually placed into the text area, see my issue with this below) but I
just
tried it in Internet Explorer and it's not even recognizing it if I
manually
place my cursor in the document.

More info: I created this in Acrobat Pro using all of the Accessibility
tags
and edits necessary for it to "pass" as an entirely accessible document.

Welcome any tips or ideas! Thanks,

Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Eric Ngondi
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

hi all,
susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or "empty
document " anybody please to help us???

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:


I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online
in a browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads
everything very well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab
INTO the actual PDF, it just tabs between the URL and other things at
the top of the page in Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the actual
document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Onwardbob
 

No thank you, I had 2002 and, at least as far as the thesaurus is concerned it's quite different in 2003

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


I have a tutorial for JFW 4.02 and Word 2002. Pretty close, really, to what you're looking for. It was done by the Iowa Project Assist grant, and I still use it. I can send you the install files, if you like.

Ann
At 10:56 AM 2/23/2012, you wrote:
I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in
the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the
A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

Adrian Spratt
 

Susan,

My suggestion is a long shot. Mike's post explains the different purposes of
the cursors, and I hope it clarifies my idea. It's worth a try. However, I
can think of at least one website where I encountered an embedded PDF file,
and I couldn't access it no matter what I tried. I'm afraid Soronel's
skepticism here may be justified. Maybe you could let us know if you get
anywhere. Your effort to make your website fully accessible is appreciated.

One more thought just came to me. I wonder if the limited OCR function that
is new to JAWS 13 might help.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Susan Kallsen
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:21 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

I think it has to be online in the browser since I need users to submit it
once they complete the test. Then it goes to an email address. Or
supposedly, since I haven't figured that out yet!! (any suggestions?) Sorry,
I should have said it's an online test form.

Gary, thanks for the suggestion about allowing PDFs to open in a browser,
unfortunately I already had that checked.

Adrian, Would you explain switching to a JAWS cursor for me? I'm learning
JAWS as I work on this project and I'm not sure what that is or what a JAWS
key would be?

Thanks all,

Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

Honestly, even when I could still see I never had success with acrobat
hosted in the browser. Even then I was pretty much stuck saving the file
and loading it in reader.

Is having the PDF be a browser hosted form really a make or break issue for
you?

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:
I have to add an IE question to this also!

My PDF is read by JAWS accurately in Firefox (as long as my cursor is
manually placed into the text area, see my issue with this below) but
I just tried it in Internet Explorer and it's not even recognizing it
if I manually place my cursor in the document.

More info: I created this in Acrobat Pro using all of the
Accessibility tags and edits necessary for it to "pass" as an entirely
accessible document.

Welcome any tips or ideas! Thanks,

Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Eric Ngondi
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

hi all,
susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or
"empty document " anybody please to help us???

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:


I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!



I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online
in a browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads
everything very well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab
INTO the actual PDF, it just tabs between the URL and other things at
the top of the page in Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the
actual
document?



Thanks!



Susan

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Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Ann Byrne
 

I have a tutorial for JFW 4.02 and Word 2002. Pretty close, really, to what you're looking for. It was done by the Iowa Project Assist grant, and I still use it. I can send you the install files, if you like.

Ann

At 10:56 AM 2/23/2012, you wrote:
I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type in
the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from the
A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and they
will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Susan,

Below is an explanation of all 4 cursors used in the JAWS program.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
are
making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
such
as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
it
is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
alt
tags in the HTML code.



Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information. It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects. Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object. It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor. It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.





Hope this helped. Take care.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Susan Kallsen
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)


I think it has to be online in the browser since I need users to submit it
once they complete the test. Then it goes to an email address. Or
supposedly, since I haven't figured that out yet!! (any suggestions?)
Sorry, I should have said it's an online test form.

Gary, thanks for the suggestion about allowing PDFs to open in a browser,
unfortunately I already had that checked.

Adrian, Would you explain switching to a JAWS cursor for me? I'm learning
JAWS as I work on this project and I'm not sure what that is or what a
JAWS
key would be?

Thanks all,

Susan


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

Honestly, even when I could still see I never had success with acrobat
hosted in the browser. Even then I was pretty much stuck saving the file
and loading it in reader.

Is having the PDF be a browser hosted form really a make or break issue
for
you?

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to add an IE question to this also!
>
> My PDF is read by JAWS accurately in Firefox (as long as my cursor is
> manually placed into the text area, see my issue with this below) but
> I just tried it in Internet Explorer and it's not even recognizing it
> if I manually place my cursor in the document.
>
> More info: I created this in Acrobat Pro using all of the
> Accessibility tags and edits necessary for it to "pass" as an entirely
accessible document.
>
> Welcome any tips or ideas! Thanks,
>
> Susan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
> [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
> On Behalf Of Eric Ngondi
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:38 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
>
> hi all,
> susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or
> "empty document " anybody please to help us???
>
> On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <skallsen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!
>>
>>
>>
>> I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online
>> in a browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads
>> everything very well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab
>> INTO the actual PDF, it just tabs between the URL and other things at
>> the top of the page in Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the
>> actual
> document?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan
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new to Jaws 13

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

I just upgraded today from Jaws 8 to Jaws 13. Wow. Lots of changes. I've decided to work through all the training material to figure out what I don't know. lol.

In the meantime, I notice that when arrowing down folder names in Outlook Express, Jaws is saying 100% on each folder. Can someone explain what that is telling me? And, can I turn it off?

Jean
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auto-format in word

John Fioravanti <fioresq1@...>
 

Is there a way to turn autoformat completely off in word 2007 and jaws 13?

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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


Thanks to all for your assistance. I just needed a simple numbered outline for the assignment. Sorry if I didn't mention that before. Anyway, thanks everybody!

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From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


I went straight from 2000 to 2007 at home. We had 2003 for several
years here, but I think my thesaurus problems came with the ribbon. The
App key definitely works in 2007.

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Onward Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

I missed that shortcut and didn't spot it when I looked back. Does it
work with Word 2003? I just received a copy and am having trouble with
the thesaurus. Also, if you know of a tutorial for 2003 I'd sure like to
track it down. Using XP and JAWS 8. Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:58 AM
Subject: RE: Creating an Outline in Word


Same here. I'm reasonably sure I never knew that shortcut. It also
provides an easy way to get to the thesaurus, which has been a pain
under 2007.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word

Anne,

Thanks for reminding me of that method. I knew there was a keyboard
method but couldn't remember it or find it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Creating an Outline in Word


If I were doing it.

Ted

1. I would place the title at the top of the page. then double space
to the outline.
2. Type the Roman number I at the left margin, then tab once to type
in the text.
3. Press enter. You will now automatically have Roman number II. If
you want that, tab to add text. If not, tab once without typing
anything and the Roman II will magically become an A. Tab once from
the A to fill in the text and press enter.
4. Now you have B. If you want it, type the text and press enter and
you will have C.
5. If you don't want C, shift+tab and C will magically become Roman
II.
6. If you want little Roman i, ii, and so on under C, tab once and
they will appear. Shift+tab to go farther to the left.

Have fun!



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