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moderated Re: RSS Reader

Cornelius
 

Need to register to use? Is it a software base or web base?
 
 

From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 9:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: RSS Reader
 

The Old Reader works fine for my news aggregation needs.  www.theoldreader.com.  Premium sub at $3 a month the best option.

On 6/1/2020 12:03 AM, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
are there any RSS reader that works well with JAWS and support show article as full webpage?
I use to use Windows Live Mail RSS, but looking for alternative as Live Mail is an old program which may stop working in years to come.
I have also tried Thunderbird RSS, but it doesn’t seem to work on all RSS feeds. Outlook RSS on the other hand, downloads full article as attachment which is something not preferable.
 
 


moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

David Diamond
 

I purchased it from Amazon.  You have 3 keys for Bluetooth devices.  On the top far left is the escape key, then the next 3 keys are for Bluetooth devices.  You just press the key associated with the Bluetooth device paired with the keyboard. With the K480, I could not tell which one of the 2 devices it was on as it was a dial system.   


moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Thanks Mike.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 9:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Pastor Gil,

 

Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.

 

How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM

Subject: Jaws And Open Book

 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Malware Program

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Sounds like this program should be avoided.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

Yes it does, then I had things like, Prehl, and a few other buttons that sounded more like options in foreign languages pop-up that I didn't want to activate not knowing what they were.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

I was able to get it to scan, it took some experimenting.

When you are on the Home tab, using the PC cursor, right arrow to the scan tab.

Then use the left mouse click button on the number tab and it should say scan now button.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:14 PM

Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM

Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

James Bentley
 

Thank you for this, Mike.

 

This seems to work better for scanning the outside of envelopes that I get in the mail than, the last version of OpenBook.

 

James B 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Pastor Gil,

 

Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.

 

How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM

Subject: Jaws And Open Book

 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Malware Program

Glenn / Lenny
 


I did get the option to take action on the result, it did find something it only called "client".
I let it quarantine it, figuring that if it did some damage, I could unquarantine it if I need to.
There was a details button, but I didn't go there.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Well, if it started scanning I didn't get any kind of dialogue to notify me.  Since you got it to scan, were you able to access the results?  How accessible was the results dialogue after you completed a scan?  Believe me, if this is an accessible program and I'm just not giving it enough time it would be great to have another viable tool in the toolbox.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

You just enter on that when it pops up, and it scans.
HTH.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Yes it does, then I had things like, Prehl, and a few other buttons that sounded more like options in foreign languages pop-up that I didn't want to activate not knowing what they were.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I was able to get it to scan, it took some experimenting.
When you are on the Home tab, using the PC cursor, right arrow to the scan tab.
Then use the left mouse click button on the number tab and it should say scan now button.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

Marty Hutchings
 

Mike,  Thanks for this.  I was not aware that this was possible.  When I tried to acquire a document, I got a message saying that there were no scanners or cameras available.  I have a HP Photo Smart all in 1 printer/scanner connected.  How do I get JAWS to recognize it?
Thanks.
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book
 
Hi Pastor Gil,
 
Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.
 
How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM
Subject: Jaws And Open Book
 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Malware Program

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:51 AM, Mike B wrote:
I totally understand that many things are done without knowing and programs such as Zemana won't know how to deal with screenreader users unless they are informed by the screenreader users themselves.
Please, for the love of all that's decent and pure, repeat this, inserting the correct company, as often as necessary!!

As the really odd-man out on groups such as this one, being that I can see, I know that when I say this sort of thing, and with the best of motivations (having been a developer once and knowing you can't and won't address things never brought to your attention, by anyone), that it comes across as being preached at, or at least can.  That doesn't change the fact that is absolutely, positively true.

And I will never be able to describe the problems encountered, even were I to try, in a way that accurately depicts what an actual screen-reader user experiences.  It's a divide I know I can't cross.

Your community needs more advocates such as yourself because, believe me (and as you certainly well know), most of the sighted world doesn't give computer accessibility a second thought.  It's not something they need, and we all tend to focus on our own needs to a very great extent.  And if you're in any sort of minority, you're going to have to constantly push to have those needs acknowledged and acted upon.  And you'll often hit walls, but you simply cannot stop because of that.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

Mike B.
 


And I will do just that!  I totally understand that many things are done without knowing and programs such as Zemana won't know how to deal with screenreader users unless they are informed by the screenreader users themselves.  This company sounds like they have their hearts in the right place and this program, from my 1st impression, could be a very accessible anti-malware program for screenreader users if the proper tweaks are recognized and applied.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:06 AM, Mike B wrote:
a few other buttons that sounded more like options in foreign languages pop-up
Which is not entirely shocking.  The company formed in 2007 in Sarajevo, Bosnia, and still has an office there.  Its headquarters are now in Ankara, Turkey.

What is presented to the user is often a "skin" that's applied on top of the underlying program scaffolding, which could very well have a lot of its labeling in something other than English.  Heaven knows what's being exposed to a screen reader for announcing.

Zemana does have a support email, support@..., and I would encourage you to report your accessibility issues and other relevant findings to them.   The only way that software accessibility gets pushed forward is if those who put it out are aware of the issues.  That's no guarantee, either, but you cannot improve or fix something you're not aware about, and for many, and from ignorance, not malice, accessibility is just not on the table.  Nudges can get it put there.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

Mike B.
 

Hi Pastor Gil,
 
Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.
 
How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.
 
 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM
Subject: Jaws And Open Book

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Malware Program

Mike B.
 


Well, if it started scanning I didn't get any kind of dialogue to notify me.  Since you got it to scan, were you able to access the results?  How accessible was the results dialogue after you completed a scan?  Believe me, if this is an accessible program and I'm just not giving it enough time it would be great to have another viable tool in the toolbox.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

You just enter on that when it pops up, and it scans.
HTH.
Glenn
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Yes it does, then I had things like, Prehl, and a few other buttons that sounded more like options in foreign languages pop-up that I didn't want to activate not knowing what they were.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I was able to get it to scan, it took some experimenting.
When you are on the Home tab, using the PC cursor, right arrow to the scan tab.
Then use the left mouse click button on the number tab and it should say scan now button.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:06 AM, Mike B wrote:
a few other buttons that sounded more like options in foreign languages pop-up
Which is not entirely shocking.  The company formed in 2007 in Sarajevo, Bosnia, and still has an office there.  Its headquarters are now in Ankara, Turkey.

What is presented to the user is often a "skin" that's applied on top of the underlying program scaffolding, which could very well have a lot of its labeling in something other than English.  Heaven knows what's being exposed to a screen reader for announcing.

Zemana does have a support email, support@..., and I would encourage you to report your accessibility issues and other relevant findings to them.   The only way that software accessibility gets pushed forward is if those who put it out are aware of the issues.  That's no guarantee, either, but you cannot improve or fix something you're not aware about, and for many, and from ignorance, not malice, accessibility is just not on the table.  Nudges can get it put there.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

Mike B.
 


Hi Pastor,
 
Don't take what I said for gospel, so to speak, since there are more than 1 way to skin the proverbial cat.  I won't say a program is accessible if it takes too much keyboard gymnastics to navigate it.  If you land on a, Button, it should be able to be activated with the spacebar or pressing enter, but if you have to left mouse click this or right mouse click that, then jump to a touch cursor just to do simple tasks the program needs accessibility work.  Glenn said in another message that he was able to activate the scan button, but I was able to do that as well and came up with choices that I didn't have a clue as to what they were.  Jaws or NVDA didn't give me any kind of dialogues that might have popped up when attempting to activate buttons / tabs.  Maybe this program is accessible using different standards than I use, but I'm not going to waste a lot of my time trying to figure it out when there other programs to use.  I spent almost 2 years working with Malwarebytes and everytime a version MWB update came along we started all over again, but now it seems like MWB just don't give a damn any more, so I got tired of fighting.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the report.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM

Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

Glenn / Lenny
 


You just enter on that when it pops up, and it scans.
HTH.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Yes it does, then I had things like, Prehl, and a few other buttons that sounded more like options in foreign languages pop-up that I didn't want to activate not knowing what they were.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I was able to get it to scan, it took some experimenting.
When you are on the Home tab, using the PC cursor, right arrow to the scan tab.
Then use the left mouse click button on the number tab and it should say scan now button.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

Mike B.
 


Yes it does, then I had things like, Prehl, and a few other buttons that sounded more like options in foreign languages pop-up that I didn't want to activate not knowing what they were.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I was able to get it to scan, it took some experimenting.
When you are on the Home tab, using the PC cursor, right arrow to the scan tab.
Then use the left mouse click button on the number tab and it should say scan now button.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the report.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM

Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Malware Program

Glenn / Lenny
 


I was able to get it to scan, it took some experimenting.
When you are on the Home tab, using the PC cursor, right arrow to the scan tab.
Then use the left mouse click button on the number tab and it should say scan now button.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

I just gave Zemana a test drive, and what started out to be a promising program, isn't!  I tried accessing Zemana with Jaws versions 16 thru 2020 and NVDA latest with absolutely no success.  You can arrow / tab to various tabs, but getting them to open to see what's there ain't happenin.  I also tried navigating using the touch cursor with the same amount of no success, maybe even less!  This program seem to be promising, but unless I've totally went into a Zemana brainfart I don't think even I can't navigate programs that badly.  If anyone gives it a try, and has success, please report back.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Malware Program

Current Malwarebytes Free download page:  https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

I have not done any accessibility testing with it, but I can also say that Zemana AntiMalware (free or paid) is no slouch, either.  Free download:  https://www.zemana.com/?ref=producthunt
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: I need the key strokes for win amp please.

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Hi Tom,

I hope you get your problem solved.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 7:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I need the key strokes for win amp please.

 

Marty:

 

You could be right about that.

 

I don’t use all of the key strokes, so can’t verify them all.

 

Hopefully, the list is reasonably close to being correct.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 3:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I need the key strokes for win amp please.

 

I think that it is Z not X for moving to previous song.

In the EQ window, N enables or disables the EQ.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 12:28 PM

Subject: Re: I need the key strokes for win amp please.

 

Jim:

 

Here’s what I have.

 

I hope it helps.

 

Tom Behler

 

Winamp Command List

 

x

Play song, make sure main window is active by pressing alt+w twice v Stop song

shift+v

Stop song with fadeout

c

Pause and unpause song

b/x

Jump to next or previous song

j

Jump to file

shift+l

Open directory to play from

l

Open file, use tab, shift+tab and arrow keys to navigate

ctrl+l

Open URL to play from

r

Toggle repeat (note changed icon)

s

Toggle shuffle (note changed icon)

arrow left/arrow right

Rewind or fast forward 5 seconds

arrow up/ arrow down

Turn volume up or down

ctrl+t

Show remaining time elapsed or left for current song

ctrl+j

Jump to time in current song

shift+l

Stop after song finished (would be nice if you could see that somewhere)

alt+3

Tag editor

j or , on numeric keypad

Open jump-to-file Box

? up

minus

2. Manage Winamp Window(s)

alt+w

Toggle main wwindow

alt+l

Show or hide media library window

alt+v

Show or hide video window

alt+x

Show or hide browser window

alt+g

Show or hide graphic equalizer window

alt+c

Show or hide skin setting menu

ctrl+shift+k

Show or hide Visualization window

ctrl+tab

Cycle through different windows (seems to be worthless), use alt+w twice to get to main player window, alt+l to get to media library etc.

ctrl+w

Toggle winshade mode (minimize)

ctrl+a

Toggle always on top

ctrl+alt+n

Open new winamp window

? up

alt+f

Open file menu

alt+p

Open play menu

alt+o

Open options menu

alt+i

Open view menu menu

ctrl+p

Open preference menu, press esc to leave

alt+s

Open Skin selection menu in preferences

alt+k

Configure Current Visualization Plug-In

ctrl+shift+k

Start/Stop current Visualization Plug-In

ctrl+k

Open Visualization Tab of Preferences

f1

Open "about winamp" window

? up

ctrl+n

New (clear) playlist

ctrl+o

Open (load) playlist

ctrl+s

Save playlist

alt+3

View or edit track info

ctrl+e

Edit selected track filename

ctrl+a

Select all

ctrl+i

Invert selection

delete

Remove selected files from playlist

ctrl+delete

Crop playlist

alt+down arrow/alt+up arrow

Move selected files down or up

down arrow/up arrow

Move cursor down or up

enter

Play Selected file

end/homehome

Jump to end or start of list

alt+delete

Remove dead (non-existent) files

ctrl+shift+1

Sort playlist by title

ctrl+shift+2

Sort playlist by file name

ctrl+shift+3

Sort playlist by file path and name

ctrl+r

Reverse playlist

ctrl+shift+r

Randomize playlist

? up

1 to 0

Increase EQ bands

q to p

Decrease EQ bands

`

Increase EQ preamp

tab

Decrease EQ preamp

s

Open presets menu

ctrl+s

Load preset

a

Toggle EQ auto-loading

ctrl+f4

Close (hide) graphical equalizer

? up

 

Additional commands and notes from Ron Canazzi:

 

With Winamp, showing all the various windows is a toggle with the following hot keys.

 

alt + W main window

alt + E playlist editor

alt + L media library

alt + G equalizer

cue manager alt + Q

video manager alt + V

 

if you want to close any of these that are open, press the corresponding key.  If you are stuck in the equalizer, to close it press alt+ G.

 

In addition, Winamp works like a standard windows program and is operable by using control + F4 to close a window.  If for some reason, some of these hot keys don't work, focus in the window you want to close and press control + F4--not alt + F4--which will close the whole program.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 12:56 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io
Subject: I need the key strokes for win amp please.

 

Hi all, I am running jaws 2020 on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Jaws And Open Book

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

I use Microsoft Edge Chromium.

I imported my favorites from Internet Explorer, as well as my passwords, cookies, and settings.

 

It was easy to do.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Like Orlando, I also still use the Favorites folder I initially created in Internet Explore.  I have a shortcut on my desktop.  If I want to ad another link to it, I’ll open the page in IE, and save the favorite with Alt D, then it’s there.  Since Chrome is my default browser, clicking on the link in the Favorites folder on my desktop opens it in Chrome.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

I really miss the Favorites folder that was associated with IE.  I would love to be able to save bookmarks from Firefox and Google to the Favorites folder and search by first letter and have them open up in whatever our default browser is instead of each browser having it’s own list of bookmarks.  I have saved bookmarks in Firefox and in Chrome, but I then forget which one and can’t find them again when I want them.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

 

It's too bad there seems to be no easy way to merge the list of favorites imported from IE with the list of bookmarks created in Chrome itself to create a single list that could be navigated by first letter navigation. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 5/26/2020 10:46 AM, Marie wrote:

That is because the ctrl shift O takes you to the bookmark manager and not to the bookmark list.

 

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Ann:

 

It’s interesting, though.

 

Whenever I access the bookmarks list in Google Chrome via shift control plus O, I can’t do first-letter navigation to get to my imported bookmarks list from Internet Explorer.

 

To do this, I have to do alt F, then B for bookmarks, and then I can use first-letter navigation to my Inernet Explorer bookmarks list.

 

Not sure why the difference.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Shift+ctrl+o should go directly to the bookmarks list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
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