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moderated Re: Anyone else having issues accessing Windows Emoji panel with Windows 10 Version 2004 and JAWS 2020.2004.66?

Don Mauck
 

Yes. Even if I try and pick an emoji, I get told that “sorry that can’t be found”.

 

From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Anyone else having issues accessing Windows Emoji panel with Windows 10 Version 2004 and JAWS 2020.2004.66?

 

Hi,

Caused by the renamed executable for this overlay. I hope this can be resolved by Vispeo in June.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Kristic
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: Anyone else having issues accessing Windows Emoji panel with Windows 10 Version 2004 and JAWS 2020.2004.66?

 

Hi All,

 

I’m running the latest public build of JAWS 2020 (2004.66), with the Windows 10 May, 2020 update (version 2004). Since updating to this latest Windows 10 update, when I access the Windows 10 Emoji panel with WINDOWS+SEMICOLON or WINDOWS+PERIOD, JAWS either stays silent or only says menu, and using arrows or tabbing only produces the same result. This has happened no matter where I have invoked it—Outlook, Word, Notepad, etc. I have ensured that my window is maximized, and my Microsoft 365 Personal is up-to-date. If I try with the latest NVDA or Narrator, the panel works without issue. I’m wondering if anyone else is experiencing this? Hopefully, this may just be a timing issue with this JAWS build being released prior to the May, 2020 Windows 10 update if others are also experiencing, and hopefully, it might work again with the June update which will be released after this Windows 10 update.

 

Thanks for any inputs!

 

Regards,

Maria

 


moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Bill White
 

Hi, Shirley. Which browser are you using? I probably have the browser you are using on my machine. I'll try the search result, once I know which browser you are using.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 5:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Bill, Thanks. But when I follow your instructions, I can’t find “refresh.” I get the message “no results found.” I went down line by line and still do not see what you mentioned.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. While your browser is open, press the JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type the word refresh. You will see a result that says page refresh. Arrow to this result, and press ENTER. If your page refresh is set to automatic, try the space bar, and changing it to every 60 seconds. Then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. This may help to refresh your page more frequently.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: RSS Reader

Jim Pursley
 

The Old Reader works fine for my news aggregation needs.  www.theoldreader.com.  Premium sub at $3 a month the best option.

On 6/1/2020 12:03 AM, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
are there any RSS reader that works well with JAWS and support show article as full webpage?
I use to use Windows Live Mail RSS, but looking for alternative as Live Mail is an old program which may stop working in years to come.
I have also tried Thunderbird RSS, but it doesn’t seem to work on all RSS feeds. Outlook RSS on the other hand, downloads full article as attachment which is something not preferable.
 
 


moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Shirley Tracy
 

Oops! I did it again and got it. Not sure what happened the first time. Will this be permanent or will I have to do it every time?

 

THANKS!

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. While your browser is open, press the JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type the word refresh. You will see a result that says page refresh. Arrow to this result, and press ENTER. If your page refresh is set to automatic, try the space bar, and changing it to every 60 seconds. Then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. This may help to refresh your page more frequently.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Shirley Tracy
 

Bill, Thanks. But when I follow your instructions, I can’t find “refresh.” I get the message “no results found.” I went down line by line and still do not see what you mentioned.

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 2:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi, Shirley. While your browser is open, press the JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type the word refresh. You will see a result that says page refresh. Arrow to this result, and press ENTER. If your page refresh is set to automatic, try the space bar, and changing it to every 60 seconds. Then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. This may help to refresh your page more frequently.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

Jason White
 

While composing your message, you can type Alt+h a f, then select the file to attach.

On 5/23/20 12:55 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

You can also open the document and do alt f  h e a and that will attach me.

 

Then you cam type in your to in the outlook field.

It is best that you have outlook open before you do that.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

 

First copy the address.  Them put a copy on the clipboard by using the keystroke Ctrl+C.  Then go to the e-mail message you want to attach it to.  In the body of the message where you want to paste it, use the keystroke Control+V.Use the keystroke

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 8:42 AM
To: jazzpiano@...
Subject: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

 

Hi all, I have forgotten how to do it, so thanks for your help in this matter. Jim


moderated Re: Full size wireless keyboard

Gmail Jonas
 

I  like two

 

Two good ones!

I like the Logitech ones this one is bluetooth.

https://amzn.to/2xuQKyz

 

USB, I like the mute button!

https://amzn.to/2K0RoGO

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 7:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

Neither the Logitech K480 or K380 have numberpads, but the k780 does.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 5:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

hi. My cuz my husband currently has the Logitech k480. He loves it. I have also had this keyboard in the past and really really liked it. I currently have the iclever bk03 I believe it is. It is a Bluetooth keyboard which is a trifold. However it does not have a number pad if that's really important to you.

Tina

 

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 12:15 PM Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:

I like the logitech 270, it is less expensive and it has the standard key layout, except it does not have a right windows key.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tony

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:11 PM

Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

I have run a long USB extension cable with the wireless receiver at the end to the middle of the house and haven’t had range problems witth any of the wireless keyboards I have used for years.

 

The bluetooth transmitter pairs with my earing aids well outside the house.

 

Tony

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Full size wireless keyboard

 

Robert, I use the Logitech K780.  It’s interesting you mentioned range.  That is the one thing I like about it besides it being fully functional with num pad. I’ve used it in different rooms and I would gage the distance between the keyboard and receiver is at least 20 feet. I’ve had no difficulty using it in other rooms even though the receiver is stationary. I can’t remember whether it takes AAA or AA batteries.  It also fits nicely into a back pack, when we were not doing this social distancing thing.     


moderated Re: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

Steve Nutt
 

Just paste the file into the message.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: 26 May 2020 15:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

 

Alt+h,F,A always works. You can also add it to the QAC toolbar as well.

 

From: Jessica D <jldail13@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how do you attach something to an email message using outlook 2016 and jaws 2020?

 

Hi,

I typically just use copy/paste. 

I hope this helps. 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On May 23, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:



Hi all, I have forgotten how to do it, so thanks for your help in this matter. Jim


moderated Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

Steve Nutt
 

Yes there is.

 

Simply go to the Imported folder, then cut and paste them all to the Bookmarks Bar.

 

You will have just one list then.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: 26 May 2020 15:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

 

It's too bad there seems to be no easy way to merge the list of favorites imported from IE with the list of bookmarks created in Chrome itself to create a single list that could be navigated by first letter navigation. 

 

Gerald

 

 

On 5/26/2020 10:46 AM, Marie wrote:

That is because the ctrl shift O takes you to the bookmark manager and not to the bookmark list.

 

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 7:34 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Ann:

 

It’s interesting, though.

 

Whenever I access the bookmarks list in Google Chrome via shift control plus O, I can’t do first-letter navigation to get to my imported bookmarks list from Internet Explorer.

 

To do this, I have to do alt F, then B for bookmarks, and then I can use first-letter navigation to my Inernet Explorer bookmarks list.

 

Not sure why the difference.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

Shift+ctrl+o should go directly to the bookmarks list.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 2:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

It would be nice, if you could assign a shortcut key to it.

Internet explorer had its ctrl+a to get to the favourites menu.

Any of the chrome based browsers that I have tried, seem to use a number of key presses to get to their version of bookmarks.

I did a little research, and I couldn’t find an extension with a ctrl+a for example to let you right at it.

Perhaps someone will right one eventually.

I am sure other people would like a single key stroke as well, coming from ie.

Pat

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday 25 May 2020 20:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Access Bookmarks In Google Chrome

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 02:09 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

alt plus F followed by B seems to be the easiest among the methods you suggest.

This is definitely one of those, "whatever works best for you, do it!," situations.  Glad to have helped.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Windows Live Mail Stopped Working in Windows 10 2004 20H1

Rod
 

Yes, Marie. Outlook is just too much for my taste. For many years now, I have managed to stay away from it and only use it casually when there is a specific need. Windows Live Mail has always served me well, however, even back in the days of Outlook Express.
 
I am hoping it can survive until there is something comparable though.
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 

From: Marie
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail Stopped Working in Windows 10 2004 20H1
 
By the way, I mis-spoke when I said WLM was more powerful than Outlook. Outlook is probably the most powerful email client but has way too many features that I don’t need or want to contend with. WLM fits my needs and that is what everyone require from their client.
Like most things in the computing world, if you like a program and it fits your nee
ds, it is the best for you.
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows Live Mail Stopped Working in Windows 10 2004 20H1
 
WLM 2012 does seem to still be chugging along just fine.  If anyone needs the installer, I archived it less than 7 days before it was pulled when Microsoft ended official support for it, though I recommend going to another currently supported e-mail client or webmail.  Windows Live Mail (Windows Essentials) 2012 (ZIP format)

NVDA has an add-on that allows for easy rearrangement of the columns in Thunderbird, Mozilla Apps Enhancements, among numerous other things.  So if you're also an NVDA user I'd suggest trying that if you wish to rearrange, add, or remove columns in Thunderbird.

The fact is that when it comes to an email client security, not ease of use (within reason), is paramount.  The older an email client is, if it's been out of support, the easier it is for those who want to find attack surfaces to find them and exploit them.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Speak On in the Cloud

David Griffith
 

A few weeks ago there was discussion of Speak On as an accessible option for Daisy Book, Audio Book, Podcast , eBook and Music Playing.

The next 2 Speak On Podcasts focusing on Cloud application are now completed. These will eventually appear on the Talking Computer Feed but advance listening is available below.

 

10 Speak On in the Cloud Part 1

In this Podcast we see how to create a Portable version of Speak On which , when applied to DropBox and OneDrive allows the synchronisation of reading of media across multiple Windows devices.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/rnbhp3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lzjrnu6dnzb40c/10%20Speak%20On%20in%20the%20Cloud%20Part%201.mp3?dl=1

 

Speak On Portable Install - With TTS change to Sapi 5 and media folders created ready to receive content.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4q4g8vgkk8eb1tk/AAAYwrnDHg3aRcmredfefttVa?dl=1

11 Speak On in the Cloud Part 2

In this Podcast we demonstrate how our cloud version of Speak On can perform on both DropBox and OneDrive from another Windows device. It shows how reading is synchronised across devices.  The podcast  covers the particular settings needed in OneDrive for the cloud based version of Speak ON to work.

 

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/6fzsx1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lrwjck28b5zeg0b/11%20Speak%20On%20in%20the%20Cloud%20Part%202.mp3?dl=1

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: RSS Reader

Gerald Levy
 


The RSS feed reader built into IE is still the most accessible and convenient to use of any RSS reader I have tried.


Gerald



On 5/31/2020 11:03 PM, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
are there any RSS reader that works well with JAWS and support show article as full webpage?
I use to use Windows Live Mail RSS, but looking for alternative as Live Mail is an old program which may stop working in years to come.
I have also tried Thunderbird RSS, but it doesn’t seem to work on all RSS feeds. Outlook RSS on the other hand, downloads full article as attachment which is something not preferable.
 
 


moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Bill White
 

Hi, Shirley. While your browser is open, press the JAWS key plus V for Quick Settings. In the search box, type the word refresh. You will see a result that says page refresh. Arrow to this result, and press ENTER. If your page refresh is set to automatic, try the space bar, and changing it to every 60 seconds. Then TAB to OK, and press ENTER. This may help to refresh your page more frequently.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: screen automatically updating or refreshing

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi everyone,

 

When I’m online or reading email, my screen doesn’t always update (or refresh) automatically. I can’t figure out why, as it is intermittent. Any ideas?

Is there a setting I need to change?

 

Thank you in advance for any help. 😁

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: jaws question

Bill White
 

Well, That suggests that something about your JAWS installation is bad. I am also using Windows 10, Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.836).

If you are using the same Windows version and build, you might want to totally uninstall JAWS, reinstall it, and don't migrate settings from any previous JAWS version.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of michaeel's mail
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws question

yes i did that i also did a jaws repair.

And an IE reset and still the same.

This only happens on IE the context menue of shift f 10 works in chrome
and on destop.

Cheers Michael.

--
sent from mizilla thunderbird


moderated List Rules - Mon, 06/01/2020 #cal-notice

main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

List Rules

When:
Monday, 1 June 2020
12:00am to 1:00am
(GMT-04:00) America/New York

Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies 

 

**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
List Admin
 


moderated Re: jaws question

michaeel's mail
 

cheers Michael.Oops Bill yes narrator did read the context menu just fine.

--
sent from mizilla thunderbird


moderated Re: jaws question

michaeel's mail
 

yes i did that i also did a jaws repair.

And an IE reset and still the same.

This only happens on IE the context menue of shift f 10 works in chrome and on destop.

Cheers Michael.

--
sent from mizilla thunderbird


moderated Re: jaws question

Bill White
 

Hi, Michael. Have you tried using Windows Narrator with Internet Explorer to see if you can get the context menu with SHIFT plus F10? I realize that Narrator doesn't navigate well with Narrator, but at least you could see if the problem persists while JAWS is not running. This way, you could determine if the problem is with JAWS or if it is with Internet Explorer itself.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of michaeel's mail
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 3:39 AM
To: new jaws help list
Subject: jaws question

Hi guys just noticed in internet explore that when i want to do a
contex menu with shift f 10 jaws will not speek the contex menu jjusta ding.

Is their a setting i have oltered in jaws for this to happen.

Using latest jaws on win 10.

The menu works on desktop.

Cheers Michael.


moderated RSS Reader

Cornelius
 

Hi all,
are there any RSS reader that works well with JAWS and support show article as full webpage?
I use to use Windows Live Mail RSS, but looking for alternative as Live Mail is an old program which may stop working in years to come.
I have also tried Thunderbird RSS, but it doesn’t seem to work on all RSS feeds. Outlook RSS on the other hand, downloads full article as attachment which is something not preferable.