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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Can some one tell me why the drive that you are backing up to has to be
bigger than the drive that you are backing up, even though the amount of data on
the drive to be backed up is far less than the space available on the drive that
you are backing up to? I have a 4 tb drive with less than 300 gb of data
on it that I want to back up to a 1 tb external drive, but Windows won’t let me
saying that the drive doesn't have enough space. I can just back up files,
but no system image.
Love in
Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness,
against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12,
13
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Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
You can definitely boot IFW up off a 16GB thumb drive and
then use Narrator to go get your back up image off of your USB external SSD or
mechanical drive. You can also store your backup image on to a second
drive in your PC if it has a second drive. You can also store images in
separate particians on just one drive. However, using an external drive is
the only safe place to store your backed up images. If you back up to a
drive or partician that is connected to your PC, some malicious viruses can wipe
out your back up images at the same time that it wipes out your primary
drive.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerJames B
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 9:17 AM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image
software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a
fit
That helps greatly.
Two last questions:
How large does the bootable media need to be?
Can I boot up off a thumb drive, and then restore from a SSD
flash drive?
Or do I need to make the SSD flash drive
bootable?
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in
Portland, Oregon.
Richard said in part:
James, I have not followed this entire thread, But, are you
saying that with Image For Windows you can have Narrator talk you through the
restore process without any sighted help?
*Yes it is definitely [possible for a blind person to do a
restore by themselves with the right preparation.
The recovery/restore disk that you must make with IFW is
bootable and it does have Narrator included so you will have
speech.
So, the problem is just that there are probably only 2 ways
for a blind person to boot up their PC using any bootable thumb drive or DVD
disk.
You can get a sighted person to make a one-time change in
your PC’s BIOS which will always cause your PC to first look for something other
than your PC’s primary drive. This would always allow you to boot up off
of any bootable media with no additional changes.
The second option, which is what I always do is to use F12, I
think it is F 12 on my particular laptops to do a one-time change to the boot
sequence. This must be done every time that you want to boot up off of an
IFW bootable medium. And it doesn’t matter how messed up your drive
is, your PC will still boot from the bootable recovery DVD or thumb drive.
Which ever way that you boot up, Narrator can be launched with the standard
Windows command, Control+Windows+Enter. You can then restore your damaged
PC and exit out to a new restart of your PC with your ehntire drive appearing
just like it was the day that you created the back up. If the backup is 5
years old, then you will be restoring to that same 5 year old
backup.
I hope this helps,
With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes
in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws
cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes.
Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that
something got added instead of a check box.
With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the
default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C
drive.
I always check the accessible check box. I also
check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will
be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking
them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain
that I know exactly what I am doing.
I also check both the verification and the byte per byte
verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the
prompt that ask if you want to save the settings.
IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software
suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me.
My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored
backups.
Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was
using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was
strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years
old.
Stay safe,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020
giving me a fit
As you know, the check
boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you
use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the
check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the
SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the
Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or
not.
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Sent: Wednesday,
May 6, 2020 6:28 PM
Subject: Re:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020
giving me a fit
Hi!
I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the
checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.
Best regards René H. Nielsen
Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100%
accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to
set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically
start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best
fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com
On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith
wrote:
I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4
accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup.
Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a
fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and
Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you
will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored
image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help.
Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into
Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive
but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I
needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in
these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows
install.
David Griffith
If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip
to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later
time.
Also, when you do this, you can delete
two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of
twice your RAM.
So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save
8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD,
and windows will recreate those two files on
boot-up.
They are just temp files Windows uses as
virtual memory.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday,
May 03, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws
2020 giving me a fit
Hello.
I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest
an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use
independently, and that works well with Jaws?
I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to
back up my complete hard drive if possible.
Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs
have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m
wrong.
Tom Behler
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek
wrote:
Too obvious to be a mere
coincidence...
If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at
something being wrong with your hardware.
Application software has
never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count
viruses or malware as "application software.")
You are, however,
giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and
taking full system image backups on a routine cycle. The number of
things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous,
and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways
they shouldn't or drive failure. Having a backup saves you untold
time and grief.
--
Brian - Windows 10
Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
The purpose of education is not
to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence
Krauss
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
But, for those of us who have Microsoft Word, can’t we create PDF’s with that? I’ve never done this, but think it’s possible. Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 4:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: fillable pdf forms? No, the free Adobe pdf reader. The paid version lets you create pdf's. On 5/6/2020 11:01 PM, Justin Williams wrote: Is it the paid version? I've found that the version I have is hit or miss with pdfs. Thanks, Justin Oh, forgot to mention I always use Adobe reader DC for pdf forms. On 5/4/2020 10:34 AM, Jenni Kent wrote: How are people filling out pdf files these days my computer tries to load edge that a disaster. Then I open the file with chrome and well no It won’t let me fill in the file that way either. Any ideas? Jennifer Kent iMessage: lightsrage@... Skype: lightsrage Whatsapp: Ask. Telegram: ask Twitter: lights_rage Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
No, the free Adobe pdf reader. The paid version lets you create
pdf's.
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On 5/6/2020 11:01 PM, Justin Williams
wrote:
Is it the paid version? I've found that
the version I have is hit or miss with pdfs.
Thanks,
Justin
Oh, forgot to mention I always use Adobe reader DC for pdf
forms.
On 5/4/2020 10:34 AM, Jenni Kent wrote:
How are people filling out
pdf files these days my computer tries to load edge
that a disaster. Then I open the file with chrome and
well no It won’t let me fill in the file that way
either. Any ideas?
Jennifer Kent
iMessage: lightsrage@...
Skype: lightsrage
Whatsapp: Ask.
Telegram: ask
Twitter: lights_rage
Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage
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Re: Reading a long Word document
And, am I correct in that you can only set one bookmark at a time, and that previous bookmarks earlier in the document are not preserved?? Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 4:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document Yes, control, Windows key + K.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark? Tom Behler Hi John, I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab. When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want. Ed I wish to read a book in Word document format. Can someone please tell me how I can indicate in the document where I am so I can close the document and when opened again I can find where I left off? Any help would be appreciated. John Doering
Pricing Analyst Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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Jaws speaking useless table information in Email
Can anyone tell me how and where to stop Jaws 2020 from saying Table with 3 rows and 4 columns, and on and on, when reading an email?
I attempted to find it in settings, but failed completely.
I’m hoping that is an option that can be turned off.
Thanks,
Richard
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hello friends; I have reviewed the program you suggested. I had difficulty using it because its interface and settings are so many. I wonder if our friends using this program can prepare a narration for us? I think it would be nice if they told us the important settings for us at least. love to all of you.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 2:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit With Image for Windows Version 3… some of the check boxes in settings are checked by default and some are not. Routing the Jaws cursor to the PC will cause Jaws to anounce the status of check boxes. Note, in some places in the menus, you get a plus sign to let you know that something got added instead of a check box. With the exceptions below, I recommend that you use the default settings if you are just trying to back up your Primary/C drive. I always check the accessible check box. I also check the completion alarm so I know when the job is finished. There will be a few other check boxes and settings that are easy to understand and checking them is optional. But, I wouldn’t change any setting unless I was certain that I know exactly what I am doing. I also check both the verification and the byte per byte verification. IFW will remember these settings if you answer yes to the prompt that ask if you want to save the settings. IFW is an extremely complicated and powerful software suite and I never make additional changes and it has always worked for me. My backups are verified. And, around 6 times now, I have restored backups. Once, I restored a backup that was created back when I was using Jaws Version 12 just to see if it would work. It did. It was strange to look at files and emails and an OS. that were over 5 years old. Stay safe, James B From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit As you know, the check boxes on the items to which you are referring, , are not spoken by Jaws when you use the SPACE BAR, to either check or uncheck the items. By default, all the check boxes are unchecked. Once you have highlighted an item and tapped the SPACE BAR, to check it, route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then, use the Read Current Line command and JAWS will announce whether the item is checked or not. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:28 PM Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hi! I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file. Best regards René H. Nielsen Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100% accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith wrote: I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4 accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup. Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help. Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows install. David Griffith If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later time. Also, when you do this, you can delete two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of twice your RAM. So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save 8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD, and windows will recreate those two files on boot-up. They are just temp files Windows uses as virtual memory. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:31 AM Subject: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit Hello. I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use independently, and that works well with Jaws? I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to back up my complete hard drive if possible. Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m wrong. Tom Behler On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek wrote: Too obvious to be a mere coincidence...
If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at something being wrong with your hardware.
Application software has never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count viruses or malware as "application software.")
You are, however, giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and taking full system image backups on a routine cycle. The number of things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous, and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways they shouldn't or drive failure. Having a backup saves you untold time and grief.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss
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Re: Reading a long Word document
Yes, control, Windows key + K.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body
has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the
toilet.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Is there a key command for inserting a
bookmark?
Tom Behler
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off
reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS
quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the
letter b until you land on the one you want.
Ed
I wish to read a book in Word document
format.
Can someone please tell me how I can indicate in the
document where I am so I can close the document and when opened again I can
find where I left off?
Any help would be appreciated.
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040
Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI
53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries
for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of
this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the
information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in
writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that
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Re: Reading a long Word document
You can also use the status line keystroke, Insert + pagedown,
to read the line and page number if your status line is set to read this
information.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body
has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the
toilet.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Thanks everyone for your responses.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no
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taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is
subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you
are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in
reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 12:56
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word
document
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off
reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS
quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the
letter b until you land on the one you want.
Ed
I wish to read a book in Word document
format.
Can someone please tell me how I can indicate in the
document where I am so I can close the document and when opened again I can
find where I left off?
Any help would be appreciated.
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040
Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI
53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries
for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of
this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the
information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in
writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that
disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the
contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi Dave,
This won't be a problem in Win PE, because you
won't be running your own windows, so it can delete any of the files on the C:
drive.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
James:
The 2 files he said you could delete to save space
were: HiberFile.sys and PageFile.sys.
It has been my experience, when you try to
delete/erase either of these files, Windows gives a warning message, that the 2
files cannot be deleted, because they are open in another program.
There is a command, which you can use in the CMD
window, which will disable the HiberFile.sys file.
I have set a custom page file and set it to be
located on another drive in the system. I am told, there is a way to relocate
the HiberFile.sys file, to another drive but, I have yet to find out how this
can be done.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup
Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi Glen,
I’ve never heard of this and I’ve been using computers
since 1994. It sounds almost too good to be true. But, I will try
this in a few days to see what luck I have.
Wasn’t there a couple files that you said needed to be
deleted? Do you have any other suggestions? Do I just zip up the C
drive which is my primary drive?
Thanks for this post.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:02
AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System
Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a
fit
Well my solution
which is simple and totally accessible is to boot to a talking Win PE and use
the 7Zip program that is on the talking Win PE to zip up the
drive.
As I have mentioned,
the Windows I am using now was unzipped onto this drive and this method works
well.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07,
2020 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible
System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a
fit
I have never tried any of the cloud based backup
software. Lets see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Regards,
James B
How about back blaze.
Can that be used?
Thanks,
Justin
There are blind people on these list that I trust.
Some use Image for Windows backup software which isn’t free but it will let
you create a restore/recovery disk that has the screen reader Narrator
that you can use to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working at
all.
Some use Macrium Reflect which is free. But it does
require eye sight to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working.
Maybe it is possible to use a talking Windows PE with Macrium Reflect to
recover without vision. I’m just not sure. But, If you have access
to eye sight, recovery isn’t suppose to be very difficult.
Others just clone their drive with Casper. I am
not familiar with that process
But, with IFW and MR, it is necessary to boot up off of
a restore/recovery disk to restore the drive. That means two things for
the blind user.
First, You have to be able to boot your PC with the
recovery DVD or thumb drive. And, Changing your PC so it will boot up
from something other than its primary drive requires sighted help. That
means changing the boot sequence in BIOS or, using the correct function key to
temporarily change the boot up sequence.
Second, Once you are booted in to a recovery environment
you will again need sighted help to restore your PC if this recovery
environment has no speech .
There are others here who have more experience with
backup and cloning software. But, I can tell you that it is critical to
have backups of your important data.
Cheers,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:24
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020
giving me a fit
Wow, interesting that I have never heard of this software.
One never stops learning.
I think it is what ever you get accustomed to using.
Image for Windows did cost me around $40, but it has always worked to restore
my hard drives.
You can use IFW to create a recovery disk that includes
Narrator so you have a screen reader to use to restore your PC. That is
an absolute necessity if Windows is so messed up that your PC won’t boot up in
to Windows.
Since this recovery disk has to be bootable for disaster
recovery, you would need to change your PC’s boot sequence in the BIOS.
That requires eye sight but it is a one time change.
In my case, instead of getting someone to change my boot
sequence in the BIOS, I use F11 and some additional key strokes to force
Windows to boot up from the boot media which can be either a DVD or a thumb
drive again, created with the IFW software.
Its been so long since I created the boot media that I do
not have clear recollection as to how it was accomplished. The
directions are in the IFW manual. I suspect that there are several
members on these list who can provide you with the directions to create the
boot media and provide directions on how to get a crippled PC to boot from the
media if you do not want to get someone to change your boot sequence in your
PC’s BIOS.
The best of luck,
James B
Is that image for Windows a good solution? I am also
searching for a good backup software.
Greetings,
I’m guessing that there is a typo in your
response.
What do I need to run to tell when check boxes are
checked?
And, in my Version of Image for Windows, something like
V3... there is a check box in settings that is called accessible check boxes.
You can check this to cause Jaws to see the state of the check
boxes.
But, You will still have to use the Jaws/or equivalent
cursor to tell that they are checked in some places in the menus. Also,
in some places in the menus, you will see a PLUS SIGN instead of a checkbox
for example, to indicate that a drive has been selected to be added to the
back up process.
In my particular case, on all 3 of my laptops, I just hit
the space bar to put a PLUS SIGN in front of my primary drive/C drive to do a
full back up. IFW has never let me down with Windows 7 or Windows 10 and
I have done recoveries on all 3.
Regards,
James B
Runjcortona Microsoft speech and they will
read
Hi!
I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the
checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.
Best regards René H. Nielsen
Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100%
accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to
set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically
start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best
fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com
On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith
wrote:
I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4
accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup.
Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a
fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and
Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you
will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored
image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help.
Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into
Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive
but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I
needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in
these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows
install.
David Griffith
If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip
to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later
time.
Also, when you do this, you can delete
two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of
twice your RAM.
So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save
8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD,
and windows will recreate those two files on
boot-up.
They are just temp files Windows uses as
virtual memory.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday,
May 03, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws
2020 giving me a fit
Hello.
I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest
an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use
independently, and that works well with Jaws?
I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to
back up my complete hard drive if possible.
Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs
have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m
wrong.
Tom Behler
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek
wrote:
Too obvious to be a mere
coincidence...
If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at
something being wrong with your hardware.
Application software has
never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count
viruses or malware as "application software.")
You are, however,
giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and
taking full system image backups on a routine cycle. The number of
things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous,
and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways
they shouldn't or drive failure. Having a backup saves you untold
time and grief.
--
Brian - Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build
18363
The purpose of education is not
to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence
Krauss
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
James:
The 2 files he said you could delete to save space
were: HiberFile.sys and PageFile.sys.
It has been my experience, when you try to
delete/erase either of these files, Windows gives a warning message, that the 2
files cannot be deleted, because they are open in another program.
There is a command, which you can use in the CMD
window, which will disable the HiberFile.sys file.
I have set a custom page file and set it to be
located on another drive in the system. I am told, there is a way to relocate
the HiberFile.sys file, to another drive but, I have yet to find out how this
can be done.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup
Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi Glen,
I’ve never heard of this and I’ve been using computers
since 1994. It sounds almost too good to be true. But, I will try
this in a few days to see what luck I have.
Wasn’t there a couple files that you said needed to be
deleted? Do you have any other suggestions? Do I just zip up the C
drive which is my primary drive?
Thanks for this post.
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:02
AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System
Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a
fit
Well my solution
which is simple and totally accessible is to boot to a talking Win PE and use
the 7Zip program that is on the talking Win PE to zip up the
drive.
As I have mentioned,
the Windows I am using now was unzipped onto this drive and this method works
well.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07,
2020 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible
System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a
fit
I have never tried any of the cloud based backup
software. Lets see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Regards,
James B
How about back blaze.
Can that be used?
Thanks,
Justin
There are blind people on these list that I trust.
Some use Image for Windows backup software which isn’t free but it will let
you create a restore/recovery disk that has the screen reader Narrator
that you can use to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working at
all.
Some use Macrium Reflect which is free. But it does
require eye sight to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working.
Maybe it is possible to use a talking Windows PE with Macrium Reflect to
recover without vision. I’m just not sure. But, If you have access
to eye sight, recovery isn’t suppose to be very difficult.
Others just clone their drive with Casper. I am
not familiar with that process
But, with IFW and MR, it is necessary to boot up off of
a restore/recovery disk to restore the drive. That means two things for
the blind user.
First, You have to be able to boot your PC with the
recovery DVD or thumb drive. And, Changing your PC so it will boot up
from something other than its primary drive requires sighted help. That
means changing the boot sequence in BIOS or, using the correct function key to
temporarily change the boot up sequence.
Second, Once you are booted in to a recovery environment
you will again need sighted help to restore your PC if this recovery
environment has no speech .
There are others here who have more experience with
backup and cloning software. But, I can tell you that it is critical to
have backups of your important data.
Cheers,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:24
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020
giving me a fit
Wow, interesting that I have never heard of this software.
One never stops learning.
I think it is what ever you get accustomed to using.
Image for Windows did cost me around $40, but it has always worked to restore
my hard drives.
You can use IFW to create a recovery disk that includes
Narrator so you have a screen reader to use to restore your PC. That is
an absolute necessity if Windows is so messed up that your PC won’t boot up in
to Windows.
Since this recovery disk has to be bootable for disaster
recovery, you would need to change your PC’s boot sequence in the BIOS.
That requires eye sight but it is a one time change.
In my case, instead of getting someone to change my boot
sequence in the BIOS, I use F11 and some additional key strokes to force
Windows to boot up from the boot media which can be either a DVD or a thumb
drive again, created with the IFW software.
Its been so long since I created the boot media that I do
not have clear recollection as to how it was accomplished. The
directions are in the IFW manual. I suspect that there are several
members on these list who can provide you with the directions to create the
boot media and provide directions on how to get a crippled PC to boot from the
media if you do not want to get someone to change your boot sequence in your
PC’s BIOS.
The best of luck,
James B
Is that image for Windows a good solution? I am also
searching for a good backup software.
Greetings,
I’m guessing that there is a typo in your
response.
What do I need to run to tell when check boxes are
checked?
And, in my Version of Image for Windows, something like
V3... there is a check box in settings that is called accessible check boxes.
You can check this to cause Jaws to see the state of the check
boxes.
But, You will still have to use the Jaws/or equivalent
cursor to tell that they are checked in some places in the menus. Also,
in some places in the menus, you will see a PLUS SIGN instead of a checkbox
for example, to indicate that a drive has been selected to be added to the
back up process.
In my particular case, on all 3 of my laptops, I just hit
the space bar to put a PLUS SIGN in front of my primary drive/C drive to do a
full back up. IFW has never let me down with Windows 7 or Windows 10 and
I have done recoveries on all 3.
Regards,
James B
Runjcortona Microsoft speech and they will
read
Hi!
I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the
checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.
Best regards René H. Nielsen
Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100%
accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to
set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically
start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best
fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com
On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith
wrote:
I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4
accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup.
Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a
fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and
Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you
will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored
image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help.
Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into
Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive
but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I
needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in
these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows
install.
David Griffith
If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip
to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later
time.
Also, when you do this, you can delete
two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of
twice your RAM.
So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save
8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD,
and windows will recreate those two files on
boot-up.
They are just temp files Windows uses as
virtual memory.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday,
May 03, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws
2020 giving me a fit
Hello.
I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest
an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use
independently, and that works well with Jaws?
I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to
back up my complete hard drive if possible.
Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs
have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m
wrong.
Tom Behler
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek
wrote:
Too obvious to be a mere
coincidence...
If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at
something being wrong with your hardware.
Application software has
never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count
viruses or malware as "application software.")
You are, however,
giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and
taking full system image backups on a routine cycle. The number of
things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous,
and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways
they shouldn't or drive failure. Having a backup saves you untold
time and grief.
--
Brian - Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build
18363
The purpose of education is not
to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence
Krauss
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Re: Creating website with JAWS
I know I’m 2 months late to the dance. However, I’ve always enjoyed Kathy’s books. There was one on WordPress by another author and they spent most of the time thanking people for buying their book and not enough time dealing with the
meat of the topic. Also, since I used to do audio and video editing I could tell that the book was heavily edited. If you are going to edit something, please do not make it so obvious.
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hi Dave,
Actually, what you would do is to use the tools on
Win PE to partition and format the drive first, and then unzip all your files
onto that drive.
When you are booting to Win PE, you are in another
copy of windows, with all the tools of Windows 10 in this case.
So remember that although currently if you boot to
this Win PE, your files are on the C: drive, but your operating system is not
what is running.
It's easy to forget that when using this, because
it's a working copy of Windows 10.
You can install things, but they won't be there on
the next reboot of Win PE or if you boot to your OS.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Glenn:
If you decided to replace your existing system
drive, with another which is of a larger capacity, can 7-zip expand a backup
to take advantage of the extra capacity on the new drive?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup
Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Well my solution which is simple and totally
accessible is to boot to a talking Win PE and use the 7Zip program that is on
the talking Win PE to zip up the drive.
As I have mentioned, the Windows I am using now
was unzipped onto this drive and this method works well.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
I have never tried any of the cloud based backup
software. Lets see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Regards,
James B
How about back blaze.
Can that be used?
Thanks,
Justin
There are blind people on these list that I trust.
Some use Image for Windows backup software which isn’t free but it will let
you create a restore/recovery disk that has the screen reader Narrator
that you can use to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working at
all.
Some use Macrium Reflect which is free. But it does
require eye sight to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working.
Maybe it is possible to use a talking Windows PE with Macrium Reflect to
recover without vision. I’m just not sure. But, If you have access
to eye sight, recovery isn’t suppose to be very difficult.
Others just clone their drive with Casper. I am
not familiar with that process
But, with IFW and MR, it is necessary to boot up off of
a restore/recovery disk to restore the drive. That means two things for
the blind user.
First, You have to be able to boot your PC with the
recovery DVD or thumb drive. And, Changing your PC so it will boot up
from something other than its primary drive requires sighted help. That
means changing the boot sequence in BIOS or, using the correct function key to
temporarily change the boot up sequence.
Second, Once you are booted in to a recovery environment
you will again need sighted help to restore your PC if this recovery
environment has no speech .
There are others here who have more experience with
backup and cloning software. But, I can tell you that it is critical to
have backups of your important data.
Cheers,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:24
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020
giving me a fit
Wow, interesting that I have never heard of this software.
One never stops learning.
I think it is what ever you get accustomed to using.
Image for Windows did cost me around $40, but it has always worked to restore
my hard drives.
You can use IFW to create a recovery disk that includes
Narrator so you have a screen reader to use to restore your PC. That is
an absolute necessity if Windows is so messed up that your PC won’t boot up in
to Windows.
Since this recovery disk has to be bootable for disaster
recovery, you would need to change your PC’s boot sequence in the BIOS.
That requires eye sight but it is a one time change.
In my case, instead of getting someone to change my boot
sequence in the BIOS, I use F11 and some additional key strokes to force
Windows to boot up from the boot media which can be either a DVD or a thumb
drive again, created with the IFW software.
Its been so long since I created the boot media that I do
not have clear recollection as to how it was accomplished. The
directions are in the IFW manual. I suspect that there are several
members on these list who can provide you with the directions to create the
boot media and provide directions on how to get a crippled PC to boot from the
media if you do not want to get someone to change your boot sequence in your
PC’s BIOS.
The best of luck,
James B
Is that image for Windows a good solution? I am also
searching for a good backup software.
Greetings,
I’m guessing that there is a typo in your
response.
What do I need to run to tell when check boxes are
checked?
And, in my Version of Image for Windows, something like
V3... there is a check box in settings that is called accessible check boxes.
You can check this to cause Jaws to see the state of the check
boxes.
But, You will still have to use the Jaws/or equivalent
cursor to tell that they are checked in some places in the menus. Also,
in some places in the menus, you will see a PLUS SIGN instead of a checkbox
for example, to indicate that a drive has been selected to be added to the
back up process.
In my particular case, on all 3 of my laptops, I just hit
the space bar to put a PLUS SIGN in front of my primary drive/C drive to do a
full back up. IFW has never let me down with Windows 7 or Windows 10 and
I have done recoveries on all 3.
Regards,
James B
Runjcortona Microsoft speech and they will
read
Hi!
I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the
checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.
Best regards René H. Nielsen
Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100%
accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to
set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically
start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best
fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com
On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith
wrote:
I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4
accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup.
Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a
fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and
Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you
will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored
image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help.
Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into
Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive
but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I
needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in
these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows
install.
David Griffith
If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip
to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later
time.
Also, when you do this, you can delete
two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of
twice your RAM.
So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save
8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD,
and windows will recreate those two files on
boot-up.
They are just temp files Windows uses as
virtual memory.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday,
May 03, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws
2020 giving me a fit
Hello.
I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest
an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use
independently, and that works well with Jaws?
I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to
back up my complete hard drive if possible.
Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs
have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m
wrong.
Tom Behler
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek
wrote:
Too obvious to be a mere
coincidence...
If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at
something being wrong with your hardware.
Application software has
never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count
viruses or malware as "application software.")
You are, however,
giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and
taking full system image backups on a routine cycle. The number of
things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous,
and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways
they shouldn't or drive failure. Having a backup saves you untold
time and grief.
--
Brian - Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build
18363
The purpose of education is not
to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence
Krauss
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Re: Reading a long Word document
Is there a key command for inserting a bookmark? Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document Hi John, I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab. When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want. Ed
I wish to read a book in Word document format. Can someone please tell me how I can indicate in the document where I am so I can close the document and when opened again I can find where I left off? Any help would be appreciated. John Doering
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Glenn:
If you decided to replace your existing system
drive, with another which is of a larger capacity, can 7-zip expand a backup
to take advantage of the extra capacity on the new drive?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup
Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Well my solution which is simple and totally
accessible is to boot to a talking Win PE and use the 7Zip program that is on
the talking Win PE to zip up the drive.
As I have mentioned, the Windows I am using now
was unzipped onto this drive and this method works well.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the
latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
I have never tried any of the cloud based backup
software. Lets see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Regards,
James B
How about back blaze.
Can that be used?
Thanks,
Justin
There are blind people on these list that I trust.
Some use Image for Windows backup software which isn’t free but it will let
you create a restore/recovery disk that has the screen reader Narrator
that you can use to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working at
all.
Some use Macrium Reflect which is free. But it does
require eye sight to recover your PC if Windows isn’t working.
Maybe it is possible to use a talking Windows PE with Macrium Reflect to
recover without vision. I’m just not sure. But, If you have access
to eye sight, recovery isn’t suppose to be very difficult.
Others just clone their drive with Casper. I am
not familiar with that process
But, with IFW and MR, it is necessary to boot up off of
a restore/recovery disk to restore the drive. That means two things for
the blind user.
First, You have to be able to boot your PC with the
recovery DVD or thumb drive. And, Changing your PC so it will boot up
from something other than its primary drive requires sighted help. That
means changing the boot sequence in BIOS or, using the correct function key to
temporarily change the boot up sequence.
Second, Once you are booted in to a recovery environment
you will again need sighted help to restore your PC if this recovery
environment has no speech .
There are others here who have more experience with
backup and cloning software. But, I can tell you that it is critical to
have backups of your important data.
Cheers,
James B
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:24
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020
giving me a fit
Wow, interesting that I have never heard of this software.
One never stops learning.
I think it is what ever you get accustomed to using.
Image for Windows did cost me around $40, but it has always worked to restore
my hard drives.
You can use IFW to create a recovery disk that includes
Narrator so you have a screen reader to use to restore your PC. That is
an absolute necessity if Windows is so messed up that your PC won’t boot up in
to Windows.
Since this recovery disk has to be bootable for disaster
recovery, you would need to change your PC’s boot sequence in the BIOS.
That requires eye sight but it is a one time change.
In my case, instead of getting someone to change my boot
sequence in the BIOS, I use F11 and some additional key strokes to force
Windows to boot up from the boot media which can be either a DVD or a thumb
drive again, created with the IFW software.
Its been so long since I created the boot media that I do
not have clear recollection as to how it was accomplished. The
directions are in the IFW manual. I suspect that there are several
members on these list who can provide you with the directions to create the
boot media and provide directions on how to get a crippled PC to boot from the
media if you do not want to get someone to change your boot sequence in your
PC’s BIOS.
The best of luck,
James B
Is that image for Windows a good solution? I am also
searching for a good backup software.
Greetings,
I’m guessing that there is a typo in your
response.
What do I need to run to tell when check boxes are
checked?
And, in my Version of Image for Windows, something like
V3... there is a check box in settings that is called accessible check boxes.
You can check this to cause Jaws to see the state of the check
boxes.
But, You will still have to use the Jaws/or equivalent
cursor to tell that they are checked in some places in the menus. Also,
in some places in the menus, you will see a PLUS SIGN instead of a checkbox
for example, to indicate that a drive has been selected to be added to the
back up process.
In my particular case, on all 3 of my laptops, I just hit
the space bar to put a PLUS SIGN in front of my primary drive/C drive to do a
full back up. IFW has never let me down with Windows 7 or Windows 10 and
I have done recoveries on all 3.
Regards,
James B
Runjcortona Microsoft speech and they will
read
Hi!
I use Image for Windows, but do you know how to make the
checkboxes accessible? It is something in an ini-file.
Best regards René H. Nielsen
Terabyte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100%
accessible beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an option to
set in an INI file when building the recovery disk that will automatically
start Narrator when said disk is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best
fifty bucks you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com
On 5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith
wrote:
I use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4
accessible. Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image backup.
Provided you can get into Windows at all the restore of the image is also a
fully accessible. You simply select the image you want to restore to and
Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20 minutes later you
will hear your screen reader announce your Windows login for the restored
image. I have done this several times with success without sighted help.
Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state it cannot boot into
Windows. The developers provide an ISO file to create a bootable CD drive
but of course there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me what I
needed to type once the CD loaded to restore windows but in practice in
these situations I have always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows
install.
David Griffith
If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip
to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later
time.
Also, when you do this, you can delete
two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of
twice your RAM.
So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save
8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD,
and windows will recreate those two files on
boot-up.
They are just temp files Windows uses as
virtual memory.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday,
May 03, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws
2020 giving me a fit
Hello.
I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest
an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use
independently, and that works well with Jaws?
I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to
back up my complete hard drive if possible.
Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs
have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m
wrong.
Tom Behler
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek
wrote:
Too obvious to be a mere
coincidence...
If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at
something being wrong with your hardware.
Application software has
never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count
viruses or malware as "application software.")
You are, however,
giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and
taking full system image backups on a routine cycle. The number of
things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous,
and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways
they shouldn't or drive failure. Having a backup saves you untold
time and grief.
--
Brian - Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build
18363
The purpose of education is not
to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence
Krauss
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Re: create a rule for this list
thank you, I always filtered from the subject -- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind https://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #4399
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: create a rule for this list When filtering a list, one's intuition is to use the "from" filter, but I learned a long time back that this was incorrect, and the way to filter out a list is to put it in the "to" field. So to filter this list, in the to field, put: main@jfw.groups.io and you can send all messages that were sent to this list to another folder. HTH. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenny McHugh" <LennyMcHugh@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 9:37 PM Subject: create a rule for this list Ok folks, I have message rules for every group to which I belong. I am using office 2019. How do I create a rule for this group? All of my other groups I target on the group name being within the subject. All help welcomed. I want to send these messages to my jfw folder. Thanks Lenny -- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind https://www.LennyMcHugh.comInternational Brotherhood of Magicians member #4399
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software
Thanks! I went with using TeraBytes.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software If you are searching for directions to use Image for Windows, IFP is not what you want. If you are looking for IFP directions, then please ignore this post. James B Hello, Below are the instructions I found on the internet for using IFP. Is this correct or did I find the wrong instructions? I get to the point of locating the drive and Jaws is not able to read the plus sign or “add a drive”. Is there a different way to use IFP? Open the Start Menu and click on Settings. 2. In the Settings window, click on Update & Security and then select Backup. 3. In the Backup section, click on the Plus symbol [+] next to the Add a Drive option below Back Up Using File History. A list of available drives will appear, and you choose the external hard drive as the destination for your backup. At this point, the option Add a Drive has changed to Automatically Back Up My Files. This is now the default, and while you can change the setting, it’s recommended to leave it as is to ensure automated, scheduled backups occur as planned. Now you are ready to create your full image backup. With the external hard drive connected: 1. Go to File History following the instructions above 2. Click on System Image Backup in the lower-left corner 3. Click Create a System Image in the left panel 4. Once the setup wizard launches, assign the connected external drive as your backup destination 5. Then select the partitions you want in this image backup, or simply use the default 6. Confirm your settings and then click on Start Backup If you want to keep your backup secure, using File History for your backup means you’ll also have to become familiar with Microsoft’s BitLocker app, which you can find in the start menu. That will allow you to encrypt the backup destination. For greater security, it is worth noting that other backup software like Acronis True Image will automatically encrypt your files on your hard drive, in transit to backup destination (either the cloud or an external hard drive), and while in storage. Thanks, Kevin
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Re: Reading a long Word document
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document
Hi John/all,
It’s a daily routine for me working with long word documents. What I am doing is set a bookmark by hitting cntrl-windows-k, jaws will tell you “marking has been set” or something like that. Once you return to your text, just hit alt-windows-k,
and you will be returned back to where you left. Just be mindful that this is a onetime bookmark, i.e., it is unique as to where you set it for the last time. It keeps no track of previous ones.
Hope this helps,
Takis
Hi John,
I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab.
When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want.
Ed
I wish to read a book in Word document format.
Can someone please tell me how I can indicate in the document where I am so I can close the document and when opened again I can find where I left off?
Any help would be appreciated.
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided,
unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
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Re: Reading a long Word document
Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Hi John/all, It’s a daily routine for me working with long word documents. What I am doing is set a bookmark by hitting cntrl-windows-k, jaws will tell you “marking has been set” or something like that. Once you return to your text, just hit alt-windows-k, and you will be returned back to where you left. Just be mindful that this is a onetime bookmark, i.e., it is unique as to where you set it for the last time. It keeps no track of previous ones. Hope this helps, Takis
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Reading a long Word document Hi John, I'd insert a bookmark at the place you want to leave off reading - the option is on the ribbon's insert tab. When you reopen your document to resume reading, turn on JAWS quick keys with JAWS key+z, and navigate to the next bookmark by pressing the letter b until you land on the one you want. Ed
I wish to read a book in Word document format. Can someone please tell me how I can indicate in the document where I am so I can close the document and when opened again I can find where I left off? Any help would be appreciated. John Doering
Pricing Analyst Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software
Hello.
Those are directions for the built-in image utility in windows,
not image for windows, which is a different product.
As far as the built-in utility goes: The first part below has
nothing to do with creating the system image, that is for file
history, and that is different. You find the system image backup
by looking in file history, but none of the first part is
necessary to create a system image backup.
Also, the built-in utility has a major limitation, or it did the
last time I tried to restore with it. If the drive to restore to
is a different size, even larger, it will not work.
Also, it was announced a few months back that this utility would
go away in a future version of windows, so don't count on it
always being there.
Good luck..
CH
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On 5/7/2020 10:07, kevin meyers wrote:
Hello,
Below are the instructions I found on
the internet for using IFP. Is this correct or did I find
the wrong instructions? I get to the point of locating the
drive and Jaws is not able to read the plus sign or “add a
drive”. Is there a different way to use IFP?
Open the Start Menu and
click on Settings.
2. In
the Settings window, click on Update &
Security and then select Backup.
3. In
the Backup section, click on the Plus
symbol [+] next to the Add a Drive option
below Back Up Using File History. A
list of available drives will appear, and you choose the
external hard drive as the destination for your backup.
At this point, the option Add a Drive has
changed to Automatically Back Up My Files.
This is now the default, and while you can change the
setting, it’s recommended to leave it as is to ensure
automated, scheduled backups occur as planned.
Now you are ready to create your full image backup.
With the external hard drive connected:
1. Go
to File History following the instructions above
2. Click
on System Image Backup in the
lower-left corner
3. Click Create
a System Image in the left panel
4. Once
the setup wizard launches, assign the connected external
drive as your backup destination
5. Then
select the partitions you want in this image backup, or
simply use the default
6. Confirm
your settings and then click on Start Backup
If you want to keep your backup secure, using File
History for your backup means you’ll also have to become
familiar with Microsoft’s BitLocker app,
which you can find in the start menu. That will allow you to
encrypt the backup destination.
For greater security, it is worth
noting that other backup software like Acronis True Image
will automatically encrypt your files on your hard drive, in
transit to backup destination (either the cloud or an
external hard drive), and while in storage.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
So are you saying that Backwave has speech on the rescue disk
that must be created in order to restore the image that is saved
to an external hard drive? Have you actually restored a backup
image yourself without any help? What you are describing sounds
like the backup procedure, not the image restoration procedure.
Gerald
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On 5/7/2020 9:42 AM, george b wrote:
Yes I did it all on all with no help at
all
When you install the product and the backblaze dialoge
box opens the only thing I noticed is on the windows pc
you need to read the box with the jaws curser to get all
the info and you can even click in jaws mode.
But it is all automatic and very easy to
use.
Any questions contact me off list.
By works great, do you mean it
does not require sighted assistance?
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an
anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
I use backblaze on 1 windows pc,
and 2 macs and it works great
I have never tried any of the
cloud based backup software. Lets see if anyone else has
any suggestions.
Regards,
James B
How about back blaze.
Can that be used?
Thanks,
Justin
There are blind people on these
list that I trust. Some use Image for Windows backup
software which isn’t free but it will let you create a
restore/recovery disk that has the screen reader Narrator
that you can use to recover your PC if Windows isn’t
working at all.
Some use Macrium Reflect which is
free. But it does require eye sight to recover your PC
if Windows isn’t working. Maybe it is possible to use a
talking Windows PE with Macrium Reflect to recover without
vision. I’m just not sure. But, If you have access to
eye sight, recovery isn’t suppose to be very difficult.
Others
just clone their drive with Casper. I am not
familiar with that process
But, with
IFW and MR, it is necessary to boot up off of a
restore/recovery disk to restore the drive. That
means two things for the blind user.
First, You
have to be able to boot your PC with the recovery
DVD or thumb drive. And, Changing your PC so it
will boot up from something other than its primary
drive requires sighted help. That means changing
the boot sequence in BIOS or, using the correct
function key to temporarily change the boot up
sequence.
Second,
Once you are booted in to a recovery environment you
will again need sighted help to restore your PC if
this recovery environment has no speech .
There are
others here who have more experience with backup and
cloning software. But, I can tell you that it is
critical to have backups of your important data.
Cheers,
James B
From:
main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz
Swietnicki
Sent:
Wednesday, May 6, 2020 11:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest
update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Wow, interesting that I have
never heard of this software. One never stops learning.
I think it is what ever you get
accustomed to using. Image for Windows did cost me around
$40, but it has always worked to restore my hard drives.
You can use IFW to create a
recovery disk that includes Narrator so you have a screen
reader to use to restore your PC. That is an absolute
necessity if Windows is so messed up that your PC won’t
boot up in to Windows.
Since this recovery disk has to
be bootable for disaster recovery, you would need to
change your PC’s boot sequence in the BIOS. That requires
eye sight but it is a one time change.
In my case, instead of getting
someone to change my boot sequence in the BIOS, I use F11
and some additional key strokes to force Windows to boot
up from the boot media which can be either a DVD or a
thumb drive again, created with the IFW software.
Its been so long since I created
the boot media that I do not have clear recollection as to
how it was accomplished. The directions are in the IFW
manual. I suspect that there are several members on these
list who can provide you with the directions to create the
boot media and provide directions on how to get a crippled
PC to boot from the media if you do not want to get
someone to change your boot sequence in your PC’s BIOS.
The best of luck,
James B
Is that image for Windows a good
solution? I am also searching for a good backup software.
Greetings,
I’m guessing that there is a typo
in your response.
What do I need to run to tell
when check boxes are checked?
And, in my Version of Image for
Windows, something like V3... there is a check box in
settings that is called accessible check boxes. You can
check this to cause Jaws to see the state of the check
boxes.
But, You will still have to use
the Jaws/or equivalent cursor to tell that they are
checked in some places in the menus. Also, in some places
in the menus, you will see a PLUS SIGN instead of a
checkbox for example, to indicate that a drive has been
selected to be added to the back up process.
In my particular case, on all 3
of my laptops, I just hit the space bar to put a PLUS SIGN
in front of my primary drive/C drive to do a full back
up. IFW has never let me down with Windows 7 or Windows
10 and I have done recoveries on all 3.
Regards,
James B
Runjcortona Microsoft speech and
they will read
Hi!
I use Image for Windows, but do
you know how to make the checkboxes accessible? It is
something in an ini-file.
Best regards René H. Nielsen
Terabyte
Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite is 100% accessible
beginning to end, including the recovery disk. There's an
option to set in an INI file when building the recovery
disk that will automatically start Narrator when said disk
is booted. Works a treat, as they say. Best fifty bucks
you'll ever spend on your computer. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com
On
5/3/2020 12:57 PM, David Griffith wrote:
I
use a solution which is I suppose is 3/4 accessible.
Snapshot will allow a fully accessible disc image
backup. Provided you can get into Windows at all the
restore of the image is also a fully accessible. You
simply select the image you want to restore to and
Snapshot will simply restart your computer and about 20
minutes later you will hear your screen reader announce
your Windows login for the restored image. I have done
this several times with success without sighted help.
Where it falls down is if your system is in such a state
it cannot boot into Windows. The developers provide an
ISO file to create a bootable CD drive but of course
there is no speech here on that disc. They did tell me
what I needed to type once the CD loaded to restore
windows but in practice in these situations I have
always resorted to sighted help and a fresh windows
install.
David Griffith
If you boot to Win PE, you can use
7Zip to zip up your HD and unzip it if you
need to at a later time.
Also, when you do this, you can
delete two system files that are temp files,
and will save you the amount of twice your
RAM.
So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can
save 8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and
hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD, and
windows will recreate those two files on
boot-up.
They are just temp files Windows
uses as virtual memory.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:31 AM
Subject:
Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS)
the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Hello.
I know this has been addressed
before, but could someone suggest an
accessible system backup image program that is
easy to use independently, and that works well
with Jaws?
I routinely back up all my files,
but would like to be able to back up my
complete hard drive if possible.
Until now, I’ve always understood
that these backup image programs have
accessibility issues at certain points, but
perhaps I’m wrong.
Tom Behler
On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM,
Rick Mladek wrote:
Too obvious to be a mere
coincidence...
If you have had this occur, twice,
you should be looking at something being wrong
with your hardware.
Application software has never, in my decades
of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't
count viruses or malware as "application
software.")
You are, however, giving people very good
advice with regard to having a backup protocol
and taking full system image backups on a
routine cycle. The number of things that have
the potential to cause a system to crash are
numerous, and generally related to people
screwing around with the OS itself in ways
they shouldn't or drive failure. Having a
backup saves you untold time and grief.
--
Brian - Windows
10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
The purpose of education is not
to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
~ Lawrence Krauss
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