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Format, font, etc. of list messages
Norma A. Boge
I can appreciate using a plain font for our messages for those who have some vision. However, I thought it was a no-no on a list which is comprised primarily of screen reader users to not top post messages. I think it is just courteous to have list messages be the easiest to read for all of us. And, no, I’m not a moderator. Just expressing an opinion.
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Re: interesting issue with jaws 2020 and the new microsoft edge
Shan Noyes
Just a thought have you tried to expand it to full screen mode with windows key up arrow
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On May 4, 2020, at 6:29 PM, james hooper <rockiesfan296@...> wrote:
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interesting issue with jaws 2020 and the new microsoft edge
james hooper
Greetings all okay I have noticed when using the newest Microsoft edge with jaws if you type something you can’t read character by character and if you backspace it doesn’t read by character any suggestions.,
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Re: New Book on Using Zoom with Screen Readers and the iPhone
Judith Pelaez
Hi, That is cool! However, they’re already was a book to learn not only the iOS app but also the windows app and some of the Mac app. Judith Pelaez
On May 4, 2020, at 6:23 PM, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
Judy
Alan, I believe you and appreciate the correction, but I do know sighted people who have had to print out and then write in themselves and information. I guess it depends upon the kind of pdf or how it’s set up. I personally can’t do anything with them as far as filling them in. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 3:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: fillable pdf forms?
Judy,
You are incorrect. Both the sighted and visually impaired can fill out properly designed PDF forms on the computer The IRS uses many PDF forms that can be filled in just fine on one's computer.
Alan Lemly
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
I don’t think even sighted people can fill out pdf forms on the computer. They have to print them out and fill them in. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
How are people filling out pdf files these days my computer tries to load edge that a disaster Then I open the file with chrome and well no It won’t let me fill in the file that way either. Any ideas?
Jennifer Kent iMessage: lightsrage@... Skype: lightsrage Whatsapp: Ask. Telegram: ask Twitter: lights_rage Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage
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New Book on Using Zoom with Screen Readers and the iPhone
David Kingsbury
Hi all,
A colleague of mine at the Carroll Center for the Blind has just written a book on using Zoom with screen readers and VoiceOver on the iPhone. It is the first text-based book written on the topic, and I think it is well-written and quite comprehensive. You can order it for $18 at: https://carroll.org/product/getting-started-with-zoom-meetings/
Regards, David
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Tom Behler
Dave:
I know we have e-mailed privately about my not being able to do the backup immediately.
If you can do that tutorial and share it with others, including me, that would be terrific!
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 5:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Steve:
Over the next few days or so, I am going to try and produce an audio tutorial on how I restore a previously backed up image. Once I have done it, I will send it to you, for your comments, before making it available to others.
Dave
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Robert Arrabito
Hi Dave and all listers,
I recently purchased TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite To be used on my Windows 10 PC. I have yet to create an image of my hard drive. I would very much appreciate a copy of your audio tutorial once it is ready for public release. And if it is not asking too much, it would be great if the tutorial can also cover how to create the image. Thank you.
Regards, Rob
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: May 4, 2020 5:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Steve:
Over the next few days or so, I am going to try and produce an audio tutorial on how I restore a previously backed up image. Once I have done it, I will send it to you, for your comments, before making it available to others.
Dave
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 06:34 PM, Mich Verrier wrote:
I have found forms that had edit fields that were in pdf but I used adobe and found no way of filling them in using the pc and jaws.That also happens when JAWS is not involved when some idiot put fillable fields in a PDF and then did something to protect the whole form, including the fillable fields, from being modified. Not everyone who designs these forms knows all the ins and outs of doing so. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
Mich Verrier
I have found forms that had edit fields that were in pdf but I used adobe and found no way of filling them in using the pc and jaws. From Mich.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: May 4, 2020 2:16 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: fillable pdf forms?
I don’t think even sighted people can fill out pdf forms on the computer. They have to print them out and fill them in. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
How are people filling out pdf files these days my computer tries to load edge that a disaster. Then I open the file with chrome and well no It won’t let me fill in the file that way either. Any ideas?
Jennifer Kent iMessage: lightsrage@... Skype: lightsrage Whatsapp: Ask. Telegram: ask Twitter: lights_rage Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage
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Re: Emojis
Mich Verrier
Windows colin or something I think. From Mich.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: May 3, 2020 7:20 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Emojis What is the key combo to bring up the list of emojis? Thanks. -- Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Dave Durber
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Steve:
Over the next few days or so, I am going to try and
produce an audio tutorial on how I restore a previously backed up image. Once I
have done it, I will send it to you, for your comments, before making it
available to others.
Dave
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Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit
Steve Matzura
Do you do this by building a TBI Recovery disk, or do you have an alternate method? I'd be interested to know what that alternate method is, if you use one.
On 5/4/2020 2:30 PM, Dave Durber wrote:
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Chrome & PDFs - something changed for me
Van Lant, Robin
All, On my company provided laptop, I’m using Google Chrome Version 81.0.4044.92 on Windows 10. It used to be that opening a PDF file in Chrome, whether from a link on a website or in an email that links to a PDF on a website, Google would open it and the first thing I would hear was a set of options that included rotate clockwise, download and such. Tabbing past those would put me in the document and I could read the PDF. Suddenly, this has changed. Now, when I open a pDF, it will not read and it reminds me of the old IE 11 experience. I can navigate to the address bar and Chrome menu, but I cannot find a way to enable the view I used to get. Thankfully, I have found that pressing Control S will allow me to save the PDF to my laptop and then open it in Adobe, but this adds extra steps for items I may not want to save in the end. I don’t know if this is coincidental, but I now see that my Chrome is “managed by my organization”, which means my company can change my settings. I wonder if they changed something not knowing the access impact it would have.
Any won have experience with turning on or off settings that would allow you to access a PDF from within Chrome? I don’t see anything in the settings that looks right. Thought I’d check here before I tried contacting Google via Be My Eyes to ask.
Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank 720-304-1060
127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 03:24 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Both the sighted and visually impaired can fill out properly designed PDF forms on the computer. The IRS uses many PDF forms that can be filled in just fine on one's computer.Yep. That being said, there are also two classes of fillable PDF forms: those that allow you to save the forms with the material you've filled in (see: IRS forms), and those that do not allow you to do so, only to print the filled form and once you close it, the filled in material is discarded. Which of the two you have is a design choice by the creator. I also never recommend trying to convert a fillable PDF to MS-Word format, at least if you haven't already filled it out. The conversion issues I've witnessed over the years (including this afternoon, but for a non-fillable PDF converted to MS-Word format) are myriad. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
John Covici
I have had somesuccess using Acrobat DC to fill out pdf forms. aIt
gvery much depends on how it was created. On Mon, 04 May 2020 14:46:06 -0400, Tom Behler wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
Judy,
You are incorrect. Both the sighted and visually impaired can fill out properly designed PDF forms on the computer. The IRS uses many PDF forms that can be filled in just fine on one's computer.
Alan Lemly
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 1:16 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: fillable pdf forms?
I don’t think even sighted people can fill out pdf forms on the computer. They have to print them out and fill them in. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
How are people filling out pdf files these days my computer tries to load edge that a disaster. Then I open the file with chrome and well no It won’t let me fill in the file that way either. Any ideas?
Jennifer Kent iMessage: lightsrage@... Skype: lightsrage Whatsapp: Ask. Telegram: ask Twitter: lights_rage Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage
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Re: automatic spelling and level announcements/notifications
Mike B
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Hi Rick,
I'm not Bill, but yes you will. Well damn,
I'm a poet and didn't know it! LOL
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
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From: Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: automatic spelling and level
announcements/notifications Bill, I will need to perform this in Outlook, as well, correct?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Hi, Rick.
1. Open Word. 2. Press JAWS key plus V to open Quick Settings. 3. In the search box, type
outline
4. Arrow down to where it says:
Outline level checked
5. Press SPACE to uncheck. 6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER.
That's it.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Hi Bill,
Please forgive my ignorance, would you please offer step by step instructions to find this?
Thank you,
Rick
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bill White
Go into Quick Settings and make sure
Outline Level Indication is unchecked‑
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
What needs to stop the level messages from Jaws reading them?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of david
try the following;
1, open word,
2, press insert+6 on the numbers row,
3, type spelling into the search edit,
4, down arrow you will see/hear, detect spelling while navigating, it's set to on, you need to press spacebar to turn it off, note, you'll need to press ctrl+shift+d=default, make sure you tab to ok after making the changes. hope this helps.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Hi all,
I am resending this with the subject line to properly indicate my line/focus...
Since I had to go and completely uninstall/re-install jaws and all components, I find the following and ask if you can help this not do this... as I add a number list, I then hear automatic spelling error. How do I turn off automatic spelling? As I arrow through the numbered list and out thereof, I hear level 1 when entering the said list and level 0 when I exit this list. How do I turn this feature off to not state levels?
Thank you for your help,
Rick
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Re: automatic spelling and level announcements/notifications
Bill White
Only if you are still getting level announcements.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 10:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: automatic spelling and level announcements/notifications
Bill, I will need to perform this in Outlook, as well, correct?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Rick.
1. Open Word. 2. Press JAWS key plus V to open Quick Settings. 3. In the search box, type
outline
4. Arrow down to where it says:
Outline level checked
5. Press SPACE to uncheck. 6. TAB to OK, and press ENTER.
That's it.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Hi Bill,
Please forgive my ignorance, would you please offer step by step instructions to find this?
Thank you,
Rick
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Go into Quick Settings and make sure
Outline Level Indication is unchecked‑
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
What needs to stop the level messages from Jaws reading them?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
try the following;
1, open word,
2, press insert+6 on the numbers row,
3, type spelling into the search edit,
4, down arrow you will see/hear, detect spelling while navigating, it's set to on, you need to press spacebar to turn it off, note, you'll need to press ctrl+shift+d=default, make sure you tab to ok after making the changes. hope this helps.
The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Hi all,
I am resending this with the subject line to properly indicate my line/focus...
Since I had to go and completely uninstall/re-install jaws and all components, I find the following and ask if you can help this not do this... as I add a number list, I then hear automatic spelling error. How do I turn off automatic spelling? As I arrow through the numbered list and out thereof, I hear level 1 when entering the said list and level 0 when I exit this list. How do I turn this feature off to not state levels?
Thank you for your help,
Rick
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Re: fillable pdf forms?
Tom Behler
Jenni:
I’m sure there are going to be varying answers here, but here’s mine for starters.
I most often read PDF files with Adobe Acrobat DC.
In addition, I have had some success converting PDF files into Microsoft Word documents with Microsoft Word under Office 365. The process gives me an editable Word document. Of course, the conversion process sometimes messes with the formatting of the original document, so it is not perfect.
I’ll read further responses to this question with interest.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 1:35 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: fillable pdf forms?
How are people filling out pdf files these days my computer tries to load edge that a disaster. Then I open the file with chrome and well no It won’t let me fill in the file that way either. Any ideas?
Jennifer Kent iMessage: lightsrage@... Skype: lightsrage Whatsapp: Ask. Telegram: ask Twitter: lights_rage Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage
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