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Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly.
Patrick Murphy
Hi Andrew,
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There is no jaws window when jaws 2020 starts up. I have to exit it and start it again in order to gain access to anything. I tried your suggestion some time ago. The remove authorization option will not remove the ilm key. Pat ent from my gmail account
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew Summers via groups.io Sent: Sunday 26 April 2020 11:44 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi Pat, If you go to the JAWS window, and then press the menu bar and go to the Utilities menu, you will find in there Explore Utilities Folder. Press enter on that. In there is an option to Remove JAWS Activation, press enter. HTH Andrew -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: 26 April 2020 08:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi Dave, Yes, i am on the last version of jaws 2018 which is all i am entitled to. I did use the jaws import wizard to copy my shared settings. I have a 90 day ilm key just to try out jaws 2020. Jaws2020 and jaws2018 are now both authorized using the same 90 day key for some reason. With regards to settings etc, i uninstalled both, reinstalled both, removed both again with all settings and shared components, reinstalled jaws2020, but still the problem exists. One peculiar thing though, i started up my computer yesterday from a shutdown, and everything with jaws2020 worked fine. I did the exact same thing just now, and the problem came back. I am convinced at this stage, that it does have something to do with the new "grace period" authorization function introduced in jaws 2019. I think it is loading before it knows for certain whether or not you have a valid key. Sometimes the check works, and sometimes it doesn't and jaws half loads with no actual jaws window. I also think, that it might have something to do with the ilm key, as this is a very old type of authorization for a pc, as against the internet activation method. However, i am not paying for an upgrade until i can get a definite sort-out for this problem. As i said in another post, there is always nvda, but i would rather stay with jaws. Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Saturday 25 April 2020 10:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hello Pat: Question 1: With JAWS 18, are you on the last upgrade for your current SMA? Which is why you are using the temporary license for JAWS 2020, so you can try its new and upgraded features? Question 2: did you use the JAWS function, which copies the settings you set in JAWS 18 to JAWS 2020? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Murphy" <murphy.patrick42@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:40 AM Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi Sieghard,
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Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly.
Nermin
Hi Pat,
is the Windows quickstart feature enabled on this machine? Regards, Nermin
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Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly.
Andrew Summers
Hi Pat,
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If you go to the JAWS window, and then press the menu bar and go to the Utilities menu, you will find in there Explore Utilities Folder. Press enter on that. In there is an option to Remove JAWS Activation, press enter. HTH Andrew
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: 26 April 2020 08:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi Dave, Yes, i am on the last version of jaws 2018 which is all i am entitled to. I did use the jaws import wizard to copy my shared settings. I have a 90 day ilm key just to try out jaws 2020. Jaws2020 and jaws2018 are now both authorized using the same 90 day key for some reason. With regards to settings etc, i uninstalled both, reinstalled both, removed both again with all settings and shared components, reinstalled jaws2020, but still the problem exists. One peculiar thing though, i started up my computer yesterday from a shutdown, and everything with jaws2020 worked fine. I did the exact same thing just now, and the problem came back. I am convinced at this stage, that it does have something to do with the new "grace period" authorization function introduced in jaws 2019. I think it is loading before it knows for certain whether or not you have a valid key. Sometimes the check works, and sometimes it doesn't and jaws half loads with no actual jaws window. I also think, that it might have something to do with the ilm key, as this is a very old type of authorization for a pc, as against the internet activation method. However, i am not paying for an upgrade until i can get a definite sort-out for this problem. As i said in another post, there is always nvda, but i would rather stay with jaws. Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Saturday 25 April 2020 10:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hello Pat: Question 1: With JAWS 18, are you on the last upgrade for your current SMA? Which is why you are using the temporary license for JAWS 2020, so you can try its new and upgraded features? Question 2: did you use the JAWS function, which copies the settings you set in JAWS 18 to JAWS 2020? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Murphy" <murphy.patrick42@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:40 AM Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi Sieghard,
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Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a List
Sean Murphy
Let me go into more depth.
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Tabindex is the attribute which effects tab order. If this is set to 0, then the way in which the page is loaded into the browser is the tab order. If a positive value is used which is a WCAG 2.1 failure. Then the focus order will change. If a button is activated and this shows new content. Depending on how the developer has developed the page. The content could appear at the bottom of the virtual buffer (been inserted at the end of the dom) or inserted after the button. So the next item Jaws sees is the new content which is correct behaviour. The page should never use a positive value to achieve tab order as it breaks things very quickly. The difference between simple and document mode for Jaws is if the link and other elements are presented on their own lines or not. The default document view you will have links and other elements on different lines when using the down arrow. In document view, the link will be a part of the paragraph text. The tab order is still the same. A lot of web sites use a tabindex -1 to change the tab order of items depending on what you have done on the page. Sean
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2020 6:04 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a List I don't think any of these settings effect tab order, Jaws gives this to the browser no matter what -- they only effect navigating by arrow keys. Jaws does not interfere with what the browser does with tab. On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:39:54 -0400, Sean Murphy wrote: document object model has been built. The Document Object model is the way in which the browser stores all the information you are reviewing. There is the styling piece that comes into as well which is called the CSS. Not sure if this would effect the tab order. right. Starting with the first link. This is of course assuming there is nothing changing the tab order. example. If you have a line of text with a link in it. Jaws will read the whole line and announces the link as part of it. In simple layout, the first part of the line is spoken, then the link, then the remaining part of the line. Tab, you are going vertical on the page. This surprised me since I had been pictureing tabbing as going horizontally across a page, like with the old school typewriters. This comes from being pretty much self taught and having a lot of questions like this and not having any real teaching about computers or Jaws until I found the Jaws-Users group. change the default Jaws navigation from vertical to horizontal when tabbing? I don't have any sight at all so I can't tell. pee it cleans the toilet. the same results as you did. We must be missing something. Judy & Libby [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:43 PMPresentation to either Simple or Screen Layout, and I get the same horizontal traversal with TAB, no matter how this setting is set. Either I'm missing something about this setting, or it is not working properly. [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:21 AMthe settings and thought I chose what I should with simple view and the choice for vertical and saved it but things are still read horizontally. What did I miss? Judy & Libby [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:31 PMweb page left to right as they are viewed by a sighted person, instead of the normal up and down. It has been in for a few versions of JAWS. Can anyone think of the name of that feature? THE SETTING. Randysend you down the wrong path. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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cisco accessibility of their forum
Marvin Hunkin
Hi. Able to login into the cisco forums. But when I try to post, a topic, they have a stupid select a board link, then a mouse over tree view / combo box. So how to then select that with jaws, or nvda. Not able to post, keeps telling me to select a board to continue. Any one come across this one and how to fix. Not able to post a topic. Have tried jaws, nvda, windows narrator, tried chrome, edge, ie, firefox and the same or similar issues when I login. Have notified cisco, and the forums, see if they will fix this issue if not, how to get them to make this more accessible. One of the more serious or poor combo box issues with a form or a forum. Marvin.
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Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a List
John Covici
I don't think any of these settings effect tab order, Jaws gives this
to the browser no matter what -- they only effect navigating by arrow keys. Jaws does not interfere with what the browser does with tab. On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 02:39:54 -0400, Sean Murphy wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Docusign
John Covici
OK, thanks, what do I click on to do that?
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 00:20:21 -0400, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly.
Patrick Murphy
Hi Dave,
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Yes, i am on the last version of jaws 2018 which is all i am entitled to. I did use the jaws import wizard to copy my shared settings. I have a 90 day ilm key just to try out jaws 2020. Jaws2020 and jaws2018 are now both authorized using the same 90 day key for some reason. With regards to settings etc, i uninstalled both, reinstalled both, removed both again with all settings and shared components, reinstalled jaws2020, but still the problem exists. One peculiar thing though, i started up my computer yesterday from a shutdown, and everything with jaws2020 worked fine. I did the exact same thing just now, and the problem came back. I am convinced at this stage, that it does have something to do with the new "grace period" authorization function introduced in jaws 2019. I think it is loading before it knows for certain whether or not you have a valid key. Sometimes the check works, and sometimes it doesn't and jaws half loads with no actual jaws window. I also think, that it might have something to do with the ilm key, as this is a very old type of authorization for a pc, as against the internet activation method. However, i am not paying for an upgrade until i can get a definite sort-out for this problem. As i said in another post, there is always nvda, but i would rather stay with jaws. Regards, Pat
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Saturday 25 April 2020 10:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hello Pat: Question 1: With JAWS 18, are you on the last upgrade for your current SMA? Which is why you are using the temporary license for JAWS 2020, so you can try its new and upgraded features? Question 2: did you use the JAWS function, which copies the settings you set in JAWS 18 to JAWS 2020? Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Murphy" <murphy.patrick42@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 8:40 AM Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi Sieghard,
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Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a List
Sean Murphy
All,
If you are talking about moving between elements. It depends on how the document object model has been built. The Document Object model is the way in which the browser stores all the information you are reviewing. There is the styling piece that comes into as well which is called the CSS. Not sure if this would effect the tab order.
If you have to links on the same line, they should navigate from left to right. Starting with the first link. This is of course assuming there is nothing changing the tab order.
The document view will show you ho the page is structured on the page. For example. If you have a line of text with a link in it. Jaws will read the whole line and announces the link as part of it. In simple layout, the first part of the line is spoken, then the link, then the remaining part of the line.
I hope the above helps.
Sean
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Hi Judy & Bill,
From what I've been told after learning more about Jaws is that when you, Tab, you are going vertical on the page. This surprised me since I had been pictureing tabbing as going horizontally across a page, like with the old school typewriters. This comes from being pretty much self taught and having a lot of questions like this and not having any real teaching about computers or Jaws until I found the Jaws-Users group.
So, now let me ask, is the Documents Presentation feature supposed to change the default Jaws navigation from vertical to horizontal when tabbing? I don't have any sight at all so I can't tell.
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Bill, I tried it both with google chrome and internet explorer and found the same results as you did. We must be missing something. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi again, Judy. I just tried switching to Google Chrome, setting Document Presentation to either Simple or Screen Layout, and I get the same horizontal traversal with TAB, no matter how this setting is set. Either I'm missing something about this setting, or it is not working properly.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
What do you call it if you want to read the links vertically? I went to the settings and thought I chose what I should with simple view and the choice for vertical and saved it but things are still read horizontally. What did I miss? Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Original Message From: Frank Ventura Hi all, there is a setting in JAWS that allows a person to read links on a web page left to right as they are viewed by a sighted person, instead of the normal up and down. It has been in for a few versions of JAWS. Can anyone think of the name of that feature? Thanks Frank Ventura
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From: Norma A. Boge HTH Norma
From: Mike B. Document Presentation Mode is in the Settings Center Document Presentation Mode is here, Web / HTML / PDFs / Navigation Mike
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Re: insertion start and end
Sean Murphy
Jim,
In HTML there is a tag to indicate when text has been deleted or inserted, to inform the person of the editorial changes. This is what you are hearing. The latest release of Jaws have set the verbosity to medium. I would suggest checking this to see if you can modify it. It is found under the settings centre > html > reading
Sean
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2020 3:00 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: insertion start and end
Hiya folks,
Just installed the latest Jaws 2020 on my windows 7 home, what is this insertion start and end that Jaws says on some websites now? As it hasnt been there before, can I stop jaws saying that?
Cheers,
Jim
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insertion start and end
Jim L
Hiya folks,
Just installed the latest Jaws 2020 on my windows 7 home, what is this insertion start and end that Jaws says on some websites now? As it hasnt been there before, can I stop jaws saying that?
Cheers,
Jim
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Re: Docusign
John,
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Drawing your signature is just one option, you can also select from some preexisting styles in which case you just type your name and it makes it into a signature.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Docusign I was never able to use docusign unassisted, it wanted me to draw the signature and in my case it did not have a screen reader mode anywhere I saw. On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 01:13:37 -0400, Zel Iscel wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly.
The Vispero toll free number is +1 800-444-4443
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I am not entirely sure if you can access their tech support department from that number or if you have to call their regular number which is +1 727-803-8600 I know you can call North American toll free numbers for free with Skype, if you have to call the local number for tech support you would have to have a bit of Skype credit to do so, shouldn't cost very much and if you have an Office 365 subscription you may already have 60 minutes of Skype calling included. Best regards, Sieghard
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:40 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi Sieghard, Thanks for that. I am actually in Ireland, but i will try this and see what response i get. Do you have their skype number? Pat Sent from my gmail account. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday 25 April 2020 05:01 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Patrick, are you in the UK? What number do you call? I can see how an email could take several days to receive a reply, but if you call their regular US number (if you are in the UK an duse Skype you can even call their toll free number) you should get somebody on the line right away. The regular number is +1 727-803-8600. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:55 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi, I too agree with bill. I sent two emails about jaws 2020 not starting correctly, and got nothing back but "thanks for your email". Sent from my gmail account. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Friday 24 April 2020 18:52 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi, Merv. I don't understand, then, why they didn't get back to me the other day, when I put in my callback number. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Merv Keck Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Vispero is not closed due to COVID-19. Everyone is working as usual. If you need technical, customer, or sales support call vispero as usual. Vispero has not ever closed due to the virus. They are continuing to support their customers as usual. Merv -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 1:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi, Patrick. Even if JAWS starts before Windows starts, eventually you should get to the desktop, as JAWS is made to start before many programs, and after they load, JAWS still provides voicing, screen content and navigation. If you wish, since Vispero is temporarily closed due to COVID-19, you may give me a call at, 714-835-6295, and I will stay on the phone with you to see what is happening. I hope I may be able to help you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 8:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Hi, Yes, latest version of windows 10 home edition with all necessary and optional updates installed. Checked yesterday, and there is no further updates needed. Downloaded the latest version of jaws from freedom scientific and used it. All apps in startup are turned off, apart from the necessary ones such as the audio drivers etc that are actually necessary. There is an application file for jaws set to "on". I set this to "off" just in case, but no difference. Pat Sent from my gmail account. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss Sent: Friday 24 April 2020 16:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: jaws 2020 not starting correctly. Is windows fully patched. Are you installing the latest version of jaws. I think It is the March release I believe. Thanks,abraham On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Patrick Murphywrote: jaws 2018.of it, it started right after i installed the temporary authorization (90days) that i was given to try it out.is fine, but then windows is fully up at that time.Byrne Sent: Friday 24 April 2020 14:34saying that JAWS will speak before checking your authorization, so you don'tanything till it makes internal checks and decides what context you are running in.not. Basic.If you shut it down (insert+f4) and then restart it, everything is ok. Now tab to Automatically start Jaws...
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Re: Docusign
Richele Pennock
Thank you very much for your feedback Mark.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Mark Fisher <fishsilv@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 4:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Docusign Hi
I have found it really easy to use but would echo that it is easier to download the doucments and read them offline especially large documents as the product does seem to jump around a bit when moving through them ie long legal contracts. Signing them with Docusign however is very easy. Mark
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Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a List
Mike B.
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Hi Judy & Bill,
From what I've been told after learning more
about Jaws is that when you, Tab, you are going vertical on the page. This
surprised me since I had been pictureing tabbing as going horizontally across a
page, like with the old school typewriters. This comes from being pretty
much self taught and having a lot of questions like this and not having any real
teaching about computers or Jaws until I found the Jaws-Users
group.
So, now let me ask, is the Documents Presentation
feature supposed to change the default Jaws navigation from vertical to
horizontal when tabbing? I don't have any sight at all so I can't
tell.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
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From: Judy
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a
List Bill, I tried it both with google chrome and internet explorer and found the same results as you did. We must be missing something. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi again, Judy. I just tried switching to Google Chrome, setting Document Presentation to either Simple or Screen Layout, and I get the same horizontal traversal with TAB, no matter how this setting is set. Either I'm missing something about this setting, or it is not working properly.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
What do you call it if you want to read the links vertically? I went to the settings and thought I chose what I should with simple view and the choice for vertical and saved it but things are still read horizontally. What did I miss? Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Original Message From: Frank Ventura Hi all, there is a setting in JAWS that allows a person to read links on a web page left to right as they are viewed by a sighted person, instead of the normal up and down. It has been in for a few versions of JAWS. Can anyone think of the name of that feature? Thanks Frank Ventura
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Randy
From:
Norma A. Boge HTH Norma
From: Mike B. Document Presentation Mode is in the Settings Center Document Presentation Mode is here, Web / HTML / PDFs / Navigation Mike
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Re: How do I use the Reaper Audio Editor?
Your best bet for this kind of guidance is to join the Reapers Without Peepers group, right here on Groups.io.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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How do I use the Reaper Audio Editor?
Kevin Minor
Hi.
On the recommendation of someone, I purchased Reaper. This is an audio editor. It looks great, but I have absolutely no idea how to use it. I’d appreciate someone steering me to good instructions on how to use it.
Thanks in advance.
Kevin, Jilly and Valerie
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Re: Docusign
Mark Fisher
Hi
I have found it really easy to use but would echo that it is easier to download the doucments and read them offline especially large documents as the product does seem to jump around a bit when moving through them ie long legal contracts. Signing them with Docusign however is very easy. Mark
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netbat66
does this service work with jaws 2020 on windows 7?
i still use it. but i also have windows 10 but seldom use it. thanks for info
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Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a List
Judy
I wonder if it’s Win 10 that needs to be changed? Thanks to all for the help. Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Links, Feature To Read Links Across Verses In a List
Hi again, Judy. Here's what JAWS says about Document Presentation:
This option controls how JAWS formats virtual documents. Select Simple Layout to have links, form fields, buttons, and other page controls display on a separate line. This is the default setting if Smart Navigation is not enabled. Select Screen Layout to have pages rendered in the virtual buffer in a way that is similar to what a sighted user sees on the screen. If page controls visually appear on the same line, then they will appear on the same line in the virtual buffer. In addition, all items in a single table row display on the same line. Table cells are separated by a vertical bar. Screen Layout is used when Smart Navigation is set to Controls or Controls and Tables and cannot be changed while Smart Navigation is active.
I don't have Smart Navigation enabled, yet this seems to make no difference.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
What do you call it if you want to read the links vertically? I went to the settings and thought I chose what I should with simple view and the choice for vertical and saved it but things are still read horizontally. What did I miss? Judy & Libby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Original Message From: Frank Ventura Hi all, there is a setting in JAWS that allows a person to read links on a web page left to right as they are viewed by a sighted person, instead of the normal up and down. It has been in for a few versions of JAWS. Can anyone think of the name of that feature? Thanks Frank Ventura
From: Randy
From: Norma A. Boge HTH Norma
From: Mike B. Document Presentation Mode is in the Settings Center Document Presentation Mode is here, Web / HTML / PDFs / Navigation Mike
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