Date   

Re: List Migration largely complete.

James Homuth
 

You'll want to take this up on a window eyes mailing list, please.
 
James,
List Admin


From: Deb and the girls [mailto:debsoundandscent@...]
Sent: November-30-15 4:48 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: List Migration largely complete.

I use jaws at home and Window-eyes at work.  Anyone had any problems with WE 8.4 and ie11 not playing nice with each other?

 

From: James Homuth [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: List Migration largely complete.

 

This list has not, and will not, put anything in the subject line. I've tried that before and very nearly had a civil war on my hands. It should be easy enough to filter based on the from or to/cc address.

 

James,

List Admin

 

 On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 01:22 pm, Gerald Levy

wrote:

 

But the subject field does not contain the name of this list, like every other list I belong to.

 

Gerald

 

 

 

From: David Moore

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:13 PM

Subject: Re: List Migration largely complete.

 

Hi all,

I am getting all messages at the new address, working great. Thank you, because I like Groups.io better and this will make for a great future.

 

 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: List Migration largely complete.

 

All good here.

 

From: James Homuth [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:45 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: List Migration largely complete.

 

Everyone has been moved over successfully from the old list. I'll now be working with the groups.io folks to get our archives moved over. If there are issues with the new list, feel free to address them with me at your convenience.

 

Moderator candidates, I will be getting in touch with those I've chosen later in the week. It was supposed to have been done by now, but unforseen complications have put a bit of a kink in that plan.

 

James,

List Admin

 

 

This list has not, and will not, put anything in the subject line. I've tried that before and very nearly had a civil war on my hands. It should be easy enough to filter based on the from or to/cc address.

 

James,

List Admin

 


Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Keith:

1. Gget in your Inbox in Outlook.
2. Hit Control-Home to be at the top.
3. Hit Shift-Control-E - you will get the instruction to "create new
folder."
4. Name your folder.
5. Enter - VOILA, that's it!

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new
list

Hi,



I'd very much like to learn how to create a new folder in Outlook 2010.



Also, I have a very full Inbox. I'd like to rename this to something like
OldBox, and create a new folder titled Inbox. Is this something I can do?



Thanks, Keith



From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new
list



Greg,



I'm sorry for that lack of clarity.



As you're finding, you must create a new folder where you want messages
from this list to go, unless you have an existing folder where they can
go. So, to clarify:



Before creating a message rule, create a folder in Outlook 2010. If you
need suggestions on how to do this, please post again. (You can create a
folder in the message rule dialog, but it adds a complication.) Once in
the message rule dialog, you'll be asked if you want messages sent to a
specific folder and, if so, the name of that folder. A browse option will
appear.



I referred to JFW as the text I used to complete the "To" field. This is
in the section where you state the conditions, that is, which part of a
message the rule applies to.



I hope this solves the problem.



From: Greg Nickel [mailto:greg.nickel.works@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new
list



Adrian



I've followed your instructions but when I go to create a rule it only
gives me the option of sending the email address where I opened the rule
to a folder and not a catch all of JFW as you suggested. What am I doing
wrong?





From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new
list



After sending the message below, I realize it's way too dense. Also, it's
missing a crucial point. I think I can summarize this way:



1. Place focus next to a message that has been posted to this list.
do not open it.



2. Press the applications key and arrow up to "rules submenu."
Press enter.



3. Down arrow to "Create new rule." Press enter.



4. Now, use the tab and up and down arrow keys through the various
options and select the ones that are right for you. You'll need to listen
carefully, but the verbalizations are pretty clear.



5. For the address of the list, I typed simply "jfw" into the
appropriate edit field.



From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: How to create a message rule for the new list



Many of us will want messages to the list sent to a separate folder. Here
are the directions I copied and slightly edited that David Whitehead
posted and that still work in Outlook 2010. I just created a rule using
them.



message rules

David Whitehead. here's how I create a message rule/filter in Microsoft
outlook 2010.

First I create the folder. Next we need to assign a rule/filter to the
newly created folder, By doing the following;

1, highlight a message which you wish to create a folder for, Example;
One of the messages from this group. Email clients with screen
readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Email
clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

2, press applications key, up arrow and enter on, Rules sub menu, Or, you
could right arrow to open. Another way to do this is: Press applications
key, press the letter "s" And then press the letter "u", which will
directly place you into the message wizard. Here you will see the
following screen; Always Move Messages From: email clients with screen
readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:email
clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Always Move Messages To: email clients with screen
readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:email
clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Create Rule... Manage Rules & Alerts... you now need to down arrow and
enter on, create rule.... Note, as I indicated, if you use the shortcuts,
the letter "s"&"u" no need to arrow anywhere, since you're in the message
rule wizard.

3. you will now see a screen; Create Rule When I get e mail with all of
the selected conditions From email clients with screen
readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:email
clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com by default this box is
unchecked you can check this box.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Subject contains
[email clients with screen readers] Outlook 2007, this box is unchecked
by default I would leave this box as it is.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Sent to email
clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com this box is unchecked by default you can check
this box. Do the following Display in the New Item Alert window by
default this box is unchecked, you can leave as is. Do the following:Play
a selected sound: this box is unchecked by default, you can check this
box,

Browse... Here you could browse for a specific sound; Move the item to
folder:this box is unchecked by default, however you need to check this
box, Folder...press enter here, Now, you can arrow to the particular
folder, Or, you can letter navigate, Then tab okay, press enter. OK
Cancel Advanced Options... now you need to tab and enter on, Advanced
options...

4. You will see the following screen;

Rules Wizard Which condition's do you want to check? Step 1: Select
condition's checked on this computer only checked from email clients with
screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com>

Etc. (lots of options to arrow down through)

This screen is fine, Just tab next and press enter.

5. now you will see the following screen; Rules Wizard What do you want
to do with the message? Step 1: Select action's checked stop processing
more rules

checked play a sound

checked move it to the email clients with screen readers folder not
checked move a copy to the email clients with screen readers folder not
checked assign it to the category category not checked delete it not
checked permanently delete it forward it to people or public group not
checked not checked forward it to people or public group as an attachment
not checked reply using a specific template not checked flag message for
follow up at this time not checked clear the Message Flag not checked
clear message's categories not checked mark it as importance not checked
print it not checked start application not checked mark it as read not
checked run a script Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an
underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email
clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen
readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows
Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder
and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again this
screen is okay, just tab next and press enter.

6. the next screen you wil see is; Rules Wizard Are there any exceptions?
Step 1: Select exception's (if necessary) not checked except if from
people or public group not checked except if the subject contains
specific words not checked except through the specified account not
checked except if sent only to me not checked except where my name is in
the To box not checked except if it is marked as importance not checked
except if it is marked as sensitivity except if it is flagged for action
not checked not checked except where my name is in the Cc box not checked
except if my name is in the To or Cc box not checked except where my name
is not in the To box not checked except if sent to people or public group
not checked except if the body contains specific words not checked except
if the subject or body contains specific words not checked except if the
message header contains specific words not checked except with specific
words in the recipient's address not checked except with specific words
in the sender's address not checked except if assigned to category
category Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value)
Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen
readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:email
clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients
with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows
Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder
and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again, you can
go to the next button and press enter.

7. now you're presented with the final screen;

Rules Wizard Finish rule setup. Step 1: Specify a name for this rule
email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:readers@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com Step 2: Setup rule options Run this rule now on
messages already in "email clients with screen readers..." You need to
check this box Turn on this rule this box should be checked, Create this
rule on all accounts Step 3: Review rule description (click an underlined
value to edit) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email
clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with
screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen
readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows
Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder
and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Now,

tab to finish and press enter.

The rule and conditions will be applied. The messages will be moved from
the inbox to the folder, where the message/rule/folder/filter has been
created.


Test

Sally Hagarty
 




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NetflixScripting from DoItBlind

John Martyn
 

JAWS 17 has enhanced the ability to script websites, it becomes clear that what I tried years ago is now possible with the Web programming and UIA scripting. I plan to script netflix in the coming month.
Cheers,
John Martyn
DoItBlind.comAs

On 11/30/2015 5:13 PM, Lisa-Maree wrote:

Hi all,

About Netflix and accessing the next season of TV shows.

 

If you, by using the normal left and right arrows on the keyboard, sit on the letter S of where it states the line Season plus its number, press enter, then arrow down, you will get to the episodes of that season.  There are work arounds, but if the screen reader doesn’t say the obvious, they can’t be found.  I have windows 10, jaws 17, and I tried this with IE11.

 

I can see the screen to a degree, and how the screen is laid out to how jaws often reads it, does not always match.

 

Lisa-Maree

 

 

From: Joshua Hori [mailto:jhori@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 6:03 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Using Windows 7, JAWS 16 and Firefox. Full disclosure: I’m a sited user with screenreader experience. (I prefer Firefox since I get the best experience with a screenreader)

 

It seems that Netflix isn’t providing “focus" on content once selected. For instance, I can navigate the site using a screenreader by headers and/or links, (I bring up the links list and look for “Audio Descriptions” and press enter, then I bring up the links list again and navigate the list of movies that are now available) but once I find a movie I would like to watch, I press enter, but can’t access the new menu that drops down to play the content, it just keeps navigating to the next movie. The work around is to immediately bring up the headers, navigate to the header that’s listed and press enter, which then allows me to access the content within the dropdown (press tab once to access the play link).

 

TV shows are difficult to navigate as they all state “Play link” (instead of “play episode 8”) and do not announce the episode without using the arrow keys (press down a couple of times to hear more about the episode). For TV seasons there is a dropdown button to change seasons using the mouse, but I can’t locate the button with a screenreader without using the virtual cursor, and I can’t access the dropdown menu with a keyboard at all. You can access other episodes using the “see previous titles Button” and “see more titles Button” (bring up the form fields list to easily find these), but this is only for the season displayed.

 

I hope this helps some.

 

Best,

 

Joshua

 

From: Daniel McBride [mailto:dlmlaw@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Hello Tim:

 

Can you please clarify the accessibility issue we need address with Netflix? On my Toshiba laptop, using Windows 8 and JAWS 14, I can get onto Netflix, manage to utilize the Search field, find the movie, documentary or television program I desire and get it to play. This is without Audio Description. And I am not able to select a specific season and episode of a television program, such as Star Trek Next Generation. I am simply stuck with playing whichever season and episode is next up in my account.

 

I am going to email Netflix as requested in your email here. I just want to be clear about what our hurdles are as blind persons using Netflix. I will also add that I am a Rhapsody Music subscriber and the problems with Rhapsody are worse than Netflix, if anyone is interested.

 

Thanks for your efforts.

 

Dan McBride

Fort Worth, Texas

 

From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Hi All,

 

For those out there who want to use Netflix, here is an email I received last evening that contains instructions on how to contact the right people.  As mentioned in the note, Netflix is still not very interested in fixing things, and your continued emails to Netflix are encouraged to keep some pressure on them.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:46 PM

To: Tim Ford

Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

This is kate! I am so sorry that your email has not been replied to yet but we get a ton, and I mean, a ton of email. Robert Kingett is the CEO and we are still trying to make them see what you highlighted as well as others. To be quite frank, they would rather not even bother with us, but we keep emailing and calling and bugging them, professionally, I may add. In our experience, we never hear a sincere, sorry! Let's work on these layout designs for JAWS OR NVDA users and I doubt we will unless we keep pushing them like we have been doing. Would you like to email Robert Kingett, He can give you more contacts than I can. I am just the email manager. :) Below is a message we just got that may help.

Hi, 
 
Hope you're well and thanks for your e-mail. 
 
Going forward, can I suggest you contact Marlee Tart in the global PR team please (her e-mail address is: mtart@...). 
 
From your recent queries it's clear that your questions are at global scale as opposed to regional/local, and this e-mail address reaches the Australian and New Zealand PR agency team (and we don't actually have visibility into a lot of the areas you're interested in). 
 
I've dropped Marlee a line to let her know you'll be in touch. 
 
Best,
 
L. 

 

On 6/24/2015 5:32 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

To Whom It May Concern,

 

Below I have pasted in an email I sent Monday to what is supposedly the engineering group for Netflix; a Netflix telephone representative gave me the address.  Today someone told me about your group, and I applaude you for your efforts that certainly seem to be the motivating factor for Netflix to start providing AD.  Please let me know if you have any suggestions on any of the issues covered in my post below.

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 

 

From: Tim Ford

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:57 PM

Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Dear Netflix,

 

I am blind, and use a Windows 7 laptop.  Up until a week or so ago, your web site was extremely hard to navigate, but at least I could start a video.  Now, after your web page design changes implemented a few days ago, I cannot even start a video.

 

I am using the latest update of JAWS version 16; JAWS is the world’s most widely used screen reading software for the blind.  I tried accessing your service with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, but could not get a video to start.  With IE, I cannot even activate my profile.

 

I am a fairly experienced Internet user, and if there is a way to navigate your site with a screen reader, I have not figured it out.  I am using the recommended common settings for JAWS, and I have no problems with some other video streaming services.

 

Back a few weeks ago, Netflix announced the addition of audio description.  That is a great move, and I applaud you for that.  However, in a very ironic twist, it is not possible for a blind person to select the audio described version, even though one is on the part of your site that contains only audio described programs.  Why add that extra step?  If one is on the audio description page, the user obviously wants the audio described version, so why not make that the default?

 

In general, there seems to be a huge gap between your marketing department and the technology group.  Netflix marketing is advertising this new and wonderful audio description service, but a blind person simply cannot navigate the site, especially after the rollout of your new web page design.

 

In closing, I am using a Windows laptop, and I do not have a smart phone.  The issues I am asking you to please fix are just for us old-fashioned blind folks using a Windows computer.

 

I know from experience that screen reader accessibility is a very narrow specialty and skill set, so if you do not have such an expert on staff, you could either hire one or contract with one of the accessibility consultant experts that will help you become and stay accessible.

 

I am happy to volunteer by helping you test any changes; I have done that in the past for a number of web service companies.  Please advise, and much thanks.

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

Phone:  916-538-6415

 

 



Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

Lisa-Maree
 

Hi all,

About Netflix and accessing the next season of TV shows.

 

If you, by using the normal left and right arrows on the keyboard, sit on the letter S of where it states the line Season plus its number, press enter, then arrow down, you will get to the episodes of that season.  There are work arounds, but if the screen reader doesn’t say the obvious, they can’t be found.  I have windows 10, jaws 17, and I tried this with IE11.

 

I can see the screen to a degree, and how the screen is laid out to how jaws often reads it, does not always match.

 

Lisa-Maree

 

 

From: Joshua Hori [mailto:jhori@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 6:03 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Using Windows 7, JAWS 16 and Firefox. Full disclosure: I’m a sited user with screenreader experience. (I prefer Firefox since I get the best experience with a screenreader)

 

It seems that Netflix isn’t providing “focus" on content once selected. For instance, I can navigate the site using a screenreader by headers and/or links, (I bring up the links list and look for “Audio Descriptions” and press enter, then I bring up the links list again and navigate the list of movies that are now available) but once I find a movie I would like to watch, I press enter, but can’t access the new menu that drops down to play the content, it just keeps navigating to the next movie. The work around is to immediately bring up the headers, navigate to the header that’s listed and press enter, which then allows me to access the content within the dropdown (press tab once to access the play link).

 

TV shows are difficult to navigate as they all state “Play link” (instead of “play episode 8”) and do not announce the episode without using the arrow keys (press down a couple of times to hear more about the episode). For TV seasons there is a dropdown button to change seasons using the mouse, but I can’t locate the button with a screenreader without using the virtual cursor, and I can’t access the dropdown menu with a keyboard at all. You can access other episodes using the “see previous titles Button” and “see more titles Button” (bring up the form fields list to easily find these), but this is only for the season displayed.

 

I hope this helps some.

 

Best,

 

Joshua

 

From: Daniel McBride [mailto:dlmlaw@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:37 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Hello Tim:

 

Can you please clarify the accessibility issue we need address with Netflix? On my Toshiba laptop, using Windows 8 and JAWS 14, I can get onto Netflix, manage to utilize the Search field, find the movie, documentary or television program I desire and get it to play. This is without Audio Description. And I am not able to select a specific season and episode of a television program, such as Star Trek Next Generation. I am simply stuck with playing whichever season and episode is next up in my account.

 

I am going to email Netflix as requested in your email here. I just want to be clear about what our hurdles are as blind persons using Netflix. I will also add that I am a Rhapsody Music subscriber and the problems with Rhapsody are worse than Netflix, if anyone is interested.

 

Thanks for your efforts.

 

Dan McBride

Fort Worth, Texas

 

From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Hi All,

 

For those out there who want to use Netflix, here is an email I received last evening that contains instructions on how to contact the right people.  As mentioned in the note, Netflix is still not very interested in fixing things, and your continued emails to Netflix are encouraged to keep some pressure on them.

 

Tim Ford

 

 

Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:46 PM

Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

This is kate! I am so sorry that your email has not been replied to yet but we get a ton, and I mean, a ton of email. Robert Kingett is the CEO and we are still trying to make them see what you highlighted as well as others. To be quite frank, they would rather not even bother with us, but we keep emailing and calling and bugging them, professionally, I may add. In our experience, we never hear a sincere, sorry! Let's work on these layout designs for JAWS OR NVDA users and I doubt we will unless we keep pushing them like we have been doing. Would you like to email Robert Kingett, He can give you more contacts than I can. I am just the email manager. :) Below is a message we just got that may help.

Hi, 
 
Hope you're well and thanks for your e-mail. 
 
Going forward, can I suggest you contact Marlee Tart in the global PR team please (her e-mail address is: mtart@...). 
 
From your recent queries it's clear that your questions are at global scale as opposed to regional/local, and this e-mail address reaches the Australian and New Zealand PR agency team (and we don't actually have visibility into a lot of the areas you're interested in). 
 
I've dropped Marlee a line to let her know you'll be in touch. 
 
Best,
 
L. 

 

On 6/24/2015 5:32 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

To Whom It May Concern,

 

Below I have pasted in an email I sent Monday to what is supposedly the engineering group for Netflix; a Netflix telephone representative gave me the address.  Today someone told me about your group, and I applaude you for your efforts that certainly seem to be the motivating factor for Netflix to start providing AD.  Please let me know if you have any suggestions on any of the issues covered in my post below.

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 

 

From: Tim Ford

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:57 PM

Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

 

Dear Netflix,

 

I am blind, and use a Windows 7 laptop.  Up until a week or so ago, your web site was extremely hard to navigate, but at least I could start a video.  Now, after your web page design changes implemented a few days ago, I cannot even start a video.

 

I am using the latest update of JAWS version 16; JAWS is the world’s most widely used screen reading software for the blind.  I tried accessing your service with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, but could not get a video to start.  With IE, I cannot even activate my profile.

 

I am a fairly experienced Internet user, and if there is a way to navigate your site with a screen reader, I have not figured it out.  I am using the recommended common settings for JAWS, and I have no problems with some other video streaming services.

 

Back a few weeks ago, Netflix announced the addition of audio description.  That is a great move, and I applaud you for that.  However, in a very ironic twist, it is not possible for a blind person to select the audio described version, even though one is on the part of your site that contains only audio described programs.  Why add that extra step?  If one is on the audio description page, the user obviously wants the audio described version, so why not make that the default?

 

In general, there seems to be a huge gap between your marketing department and the technology group.  Netflix marketing is advertising this new and wonderful audio description service, but a blind person simply cannot navigate the site, especially after the rollout of your new web page design.

 

In closing, I am using a Windows laptop, and I do not have a smart phone.  The issues I am asking you to please fix are just for us old-fashioned blind folks using a Windows computer.

 

I know from experience that screen reader accessibility is a very narrow specialty and skill set, so if you do not have such an expert on staff, you could either hire one or contract with one of the accessibility consultant experts that will help you become and stay accessible.

 

I am happy to volunteer by helping you test any changes; I have done that in the past for a number of web service companies.  Please advise, and much thanks.

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

Phone:  916-538-6415

 

 


Re: now that the list migration is almost complete how do we change the rule for messages?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I would say go to Creat New rule and set it up like you did for the
original list, even to the same box, but with the new address checked on
the subject line and pasted at the next portion, as you go through the
prompts in Creat New Rule.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ingram [mailto:dingram269@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: now that the list migration is almost complete how do we change
the rule for messages?

Hi list members, I have a question as to how do we change a rule for mail
in Microsoft out look 2013. I'm not sure how to change a rule so that
messages from jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io> go to the jfw folder
as the others did before? Thank you for any information that you might
have concerning this question.


Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

Armando Vias <armando.l.vias@...>
 

Are you using JAWS?

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Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

James Homuth
 

We're starting to move a little bit away from the topic of the list, folks.
 
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From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@...]
Sent: November-30-15 7:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

Hi,

 

I’d very much like to learn how to create a new folder in Outlook 2010.

 

Also, I have a very full Inbox. I’d like to rename this to something like OldBox, and create a new folder titled Inbox. Is this something I can do?

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

Greg,

 

I’m sorry for that lack of clarity.

 

As you’re finding, you must create a new folder where you want messages from this list to go, unless you have an existing folder where they can go. So, to clarify:

 

Before creating a message rule, create a folder in Outlook 2010. If you need suggestions on how to do this, please post again. (You can create a folder in the message rule dialog, but it adds a complication.) Once in the message rule dialog, you’ll be asked if you want messages sent to a specific folder and, if so, the name of that folder. A browse option will appear.

 

I referred to JFW as the text I used to complete the “To” field. This is in the section where you state the conditions,  that is, which part of a message the rule applies to.

 

I hope this solves the problem.

 

From: Greg Nickel [mailto:greg.nickel.works@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

Adrian

 

I’ve followed your instructions but when I go to create a rule it only gives me the option of sending the email address where I opened the rule to a folder and not a catch all of JFW as you suggested.  What am I doing wrong?

 

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

After sending the message below, I realize it’s way too dense. Also, it’s missing a crucial point. I think I can summarize this way:

 

1.       Place focus next to a message that has been posted to this list. do not open it.

 

2.       Press the applications key and arrow up to “rules submenu.” Press enter.

 

3.       Down arrow to “Create new rule.” Press enter.

 

4.       Now, use the tab and up and down arrow keys through the various options and select the ones that are right for you. You’ll need to listen carefully, but the verbalizations are pretty clear.

 

5.       For the address of the list, I typed simply “jfw” into the appropriate edit field.

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to create a message rule for the new list

 

Many of us will want messages to the list sent to a separate folder. Here are the directions I copied and slightly edited that David Whitehead posted and that still work in Outlook 2010. I just created a rule using them.

 

message rules

David Whitehead. here's how I create a message rule/filter in Microsoft outlook 2010.

First I create the folder. Next we need to assign a rule/filter to the newly created folder, By doing the following;

1, highlight a message which you wish to create a folder for, Example; One of the messages from this group. Email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:Email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

2, press applications key, up arrow and enter on, Rules sub menu, Or, you could right arrow to open. Another way to do this is: Press applications key, press the letter "s" And then press the letter "u", which will directly place you into the message wizard. Here you will see the following screen; Always Move Messages From: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Always Move Messages To: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Create Rule... Manage Rules & Alerts... you now need to down arrow and enter on, create rule.... Note, as I indicated, if you use the shortcuts, the letter "s"&"u" no need to arrow anywhere, since you're in the message rule wizard.

3. you will now see a screen; Create Rule When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions From email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com by default this box is unchecked you can check this box.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Subject contains [email clients with screen readers] Outlook 2007, this box is unchecked by default I would leave this box as it is.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com this box is unchecked by default you can check this box. Do the following Display in the New Item Alert window by default this box is unchecked, you can leave as is. Do the following:Play a selected sound: this box is unchecked by default, you can check this box,

Browse... Here you could browse for a specific sound; Move the item to folder:this box is unchecked by default, however you need to check this box, Folder...press enter here, Now, you can arrow to the particular folder, Or, you can letter navigate, Then tab okay, press enter. OK Cancel Advanced Options... now you need to tab and enter on, Advanced options...

4. You will see the following screen;

Rules Wizard Which condition's do you want to check? Step 1: Select condition's checked on this computer only checked from email clients with screen readers@...

Etc. (lots of options to arrow down through)

This screen is fine, Just tab next and press enter.

5. now you will see the following screen; Rules Wizard What do you want to do with the message? Step 1: Select action's checked stop processing more rules

checked play a sound

checked move it to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked move a copy to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked assign it to the category category not checked delete it not checked permanently delete it forward it to people or public group not checked not checked forward it to people or public group as an attachment not checked reply using a specific template not checked flag message for follow up at this time not checked clear the Message Flag not checked clear message's categories not checked mark it as importance not checked print it not checked start application not checked mark it as read not checked run a script Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again this screen is okay, just tab next and press enter.

6. the next screen you wil see is; Rules Wizard Are there any exceptions? Step 1: Select exception's (if necessary) not checked except if from people or public group not checked except if the subject contains specific words not checked except through the specified account not checked except if sent only to me not checked except where my name is in the To box not checked except if it is marked as importance not checked except if it is marked as sensitivity except if it is flagged for action not checked not checked except where my name is in the Cc box not checked except if my name is in the To or Cc box not checked except where my name is not in the To box not checked except if sent to people or public group not checked except if the body contains specific words not checked except if the subject or body contains specific words not checked except if the message header contains specific words not checked except with specific words in the recipient's address not checked except with specific words in the sender's address not checked except if assigned to category category Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again, you can go to the next button and press enter.

7. now you're presented with the final screen;

Rules Wizard Finish rule setup. Step 1: Specify a name for this rule email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com Step 2: Setup rule options Run this rule now on messages already in "email clients with screen readers..." You need to check this box Turn on this rule this box should be checked, Create this rule on all accounts Step 3: Review rule description (click an underlined value to edit) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Now,

tab to finish and press enter.

The rule and conditions will be applied. The messages will be moved from the inbox to the folder, where the message/rule/folder/filter has been created.


Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

 

I’d very much like to learn how to create a new folder in Outlook 2010.

 

Also, I have a very full Inbox. I’d like to rename this to something like OldBox, and create a new folder titled Inbox. Is this something I can do?

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:00 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

Greg,

 

I’m sorry for that lack of clarity.

 

As you’re finding, you must create a new folder where you want messages from this list to go, unless you have an existing folder where they can go. So, to clarify:

 

Before creating a message rule, create a folder in Outlook 2010. If you need suggestions on how to do this, please post again. (You can create a folder in the message rule dialog, but it adds a complication.) Once in the message rule dialog, you’ll be asked if you want messages sent to a specific folder and, if so, the name of that folder. A browse option will appear.

 

I referred to JFW as the text I used to complete the “To” field. This is in the section where you state the conditions,  that is, which part of a message the rule applies to.

 

I hope this solves the problem.

 

From: Greg Nickel [mailto:greg.nickel.works@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

Adrian

 

I’ve followed your instructions but when I go to create a rule it only gives me the option of sending the email address where I opened the rule to a folder and not a catch all of JFW as you suggested.  What am I doing wrong?

 

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

After sending the message below, I realize it’s way too dense. Also, it’s missing a crucial point. I think I can summarize this way:

 

1.       Place focus next to a message that has been posted to this list. do not open it.

 

2.       Press the applications key and arrow up to “rules submenu.” Press enter.

 

3.       Down arrow to “Create new rule.” Press enter.

 

4.       Now, use the tab and up and down arrow keys through the various options and select the ones that are right for you. You’ll need to listen carefully, but the verbalizations are pretty clear.

 

5.       For the address of the list, I typed simply “jfw” into the appropriate edit field.

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to create a message rule for the new list

 

Many of us will want messages to the list sent to a separate folder. Here are the directions I copied and slightly edited that David Whitehead posted and that still work in Outlook 2010. I just created a rule using them.

 

message rules

David Whitehead. here's how I create a message rule/filter in Microsoft outlook 2010.

First I create the folder. Next we need to assign a rule/filter to the newly created folder, By doing the following;

1, highlight a message which you wish to create a folder for, Example; One of the messages from this group. Email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:Email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

2, press applications key, up arrow and enter on, Rules sub menu, Or, you could right arrow to open. Another way to do this is: Press applications key, press the letter "s" And then press the letter "u", which will directly place you into the message wizard. Here you will see the following screen; Always Move Messages From: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Always Move Messages To: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Create Rule... Manage Rules & Alerts... you now need to down arrow and enter on, create rule.... Note, as I indicated, if you use the shortcuts, the letter "s"&"u" no need to arrow anywhere, since you're in the message rule wizard.

3. you will now see a screen; Create Rule When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions From email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com by default this box is unchecked you can check this box.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Subject contains [email clients with screen readers] Outlook 2007, this box is unchecked by default I would leave this box as it is.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com this box is unchecked by default you can check this box. Do the following Display in the New Item Alert window by default this box is unchecked, you can leave as is. Do the following:Play a selected sound: this box is unchecked by default, you can check this box,

Browse... Here you could browse for a specific sound; Move the item to folder:this box is unchecked by default, however you need to check this box, Folder...press enter here, Now, you can arrow to the particular folder, Or, you can letter navigate, Then tab okay, press enter. OK Cancel Advanced Options... now you need to tab and enter on, Advanced options...

4. You will see the following screen;

Rules Wizard Which condition's do you want to check? Step 1: Select condition's checked on this computer only checked from email clients with screen readers@...

Etc. (lots of options to arrow down through)

This screen is fine, Just tab next and press enter.

5. now you will see the following screen; Rules Wizard What do you want to do with the message? Step 1: Select action's checked stop processing more rules

checked play a sound

checked move it to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked move a copy to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked assign it to the category category not checked delete it not checked permanently delete it forward it to people or public group not checked not checked forward it to people or public group as an attachment not checked reply using a specific template not checked flag message for follow up at this time not checked clear the Message Flag not checked clear message's categories not checked mark it as importance not checked print it not checked start application not checked mark it as read not checked run a script Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again this screen is okay, just tab next and press enter.

6. the next screen you wil see is; Rules Wizard Are there any exceptions? Step 1: Select exception's (if necessary) not checked except if from people or public group not checked except if the subject contains specific words not checked except through the specified account not checked except if sent only to me not checked except where my name is in the To box not checked except if it is marked as importance not checked except if it is marked as sensitivity except if it is flagged for action not checked not checked except where my name is in the Cc box not checked except if my name is in the To or Cc box not checked except where my name is not in the To box not checked except if sent to people or public group not checked except if the body contains specific words not checked except if the subject or body contains specific words not checked except if the message header contains specific words not checked except with specific words in the recipient's address not checked except with specific words in the sender's address not checked except if assigned to category category Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again, you can go to the next button and press enter.

7. now you're presented with the final screen;

Rules Wizard Finish rule setup. Step 1: Specify a name for this rule email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com Step 2: Setup rule options Run this rule now on messages already in "email clients with screen readers..." You need to check this box Turn on this rule this box should be checked, Create this rule on all accounts Step 3: Review rule description (click an underlined value to edit) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Now,

tab to finish and press enter.

The rule and conditions will be applied. The messages will be moved from the inbox to the folder, where the message/rule/folder/filter has been created.


Re: Testing the new Site!

Armando Vias <armando.l.vias@...>
 

It works. I'm new to this list.

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Re: Testing the new Site!

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Testing here too - thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Walker, Michael E [mailto:michael.e.walker3@boeing.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:06 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Testing the new Site!

Hi Tim, the group is working fine. I got your email.



From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 10:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Testing the new Site!



Thank you very much for all those who worked on the transition to the new
JAWS list.



Tim Ford


Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

Adrian Spratt
 

Greg,

 

I’m sorry for that lack of clarity.

 

As you’re finding, you must create a new folder where you want messages from this list to go, unless you have an existing folder where they can go. So, to clarify:

 

Before creating a message rule, create a folder in Outlook 2010. If you need suggestions on how to do this, please post again. (You can create a folder in the message rule dialog, but it adds a complication.) Once in the message rule dialog, you’ll be asked if you want messages sent to a specific folder and, if so, the name of that folder. A browse option will appear.

 

I referred to JFW as the text I used to complete the “To” field. This is in the section where you state the conditions,  that is, which part of a message the rule applies to.

 

I hope this solves the problem.

 

From: Greg Nickel [mailto:greg.nickel.works@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 6:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

Adrian

 

I’ve followed your instructions but when I go to create a rule it only gives me the option of sending the email address where I opened the rule to a folder and not a catch all of JFW as you suggested.  What am I doing wrong?

 

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

After sending the message below, I realize it’s way too dense. Also, it’s missing a crucial point. I think I can summarize this way:

 

1.      Place focus next to a message that has been posted to this list. do not open it.

 

2.      Press the applications key and arrow up to “rules submenu.” Press enter.

 

3.      Down arrow to “Create new rule.” Press enter.

 

4.      Now, use the tab and up and down arrow keys through the various options and select the ones that are right for you. You’ll need to listen carefully, but the verbalizations are pretty clear.

 

5.      For the address of the list, I typed simply “jfw” into the appropriate edit field.

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to create a message rule for the new list

 

Many of us will want messages to the list sent to a separate folder. Here are the directions I copied and slightly edited that David Whitehead posted and that still work in Outlook 2010. I just created a rule using them.

 

message rules

David Whitehead. here's how I create a message rule/filter in Microsoft outlook 2010.

First I create the folder. Next we need to assign a rule/filter to the newly created folder, By doing the following;

1, highlight a message which you wish to create a folder for, Example; One of the messages from this group. Email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:Email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

2, press applications key, up arrow and enter on, Rules sub menu, Or, you could right arrow to open. Another way to do this is: Press applications key, press the letter "s" And then press the letter "u", which will directly place you into the message wizard. Here you will see the following screen; Always Move Messages From: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Always Move Messages To: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Create Rule... Manage Rules & Alerts... you now need to down arrow and enter on, create rule.... Note, as I indicated, if you use the shortcuts, the letter "s"&"u" no need to arrow anywhere, since you're in the message rule wizard.

3. you will now see a screen; Create Rule When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions From email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com by default this box is unchecked you can check this box.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Subject contains [email clients with screen readers] Outlook 2007, this box is unchecked by default I would leave this box as it is.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com this box is unchecked by default you can check this box. Do the following Display in the New Item Alert window by default this box is unchecked, you can leave as is. Do the following:Play a selected sound: this box is unchecked by default, you can check this box,

Browse... Here you could browse for a specific sound; Move the item to folder:this box is unchecked by default, however you need to check this box, Folder...press enter here, Now, you can arrow to the particular folder, Or, you can letter navigate, Then tab okay, press enter. OK Cancel Advanced Options... now you need to tab and enter on, Advanced options...

4. You will see the following screen;

Rules Wizard Which condition's do you want to check? Step 1: Select condition's checked on this computer only checked from email clients with screen readers@...

Etc. (lots of options to arrow down through)

This screen is fine, Just tab next and press enter.

5. now you will see the following screen; Rules Wizard What do you want to do with the message? Step 1: Select action's checked stop processing more rules

checked play a sound

checked move it to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked move a copy to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked assign it to the category category not checked delete it not checked permanently delete it forward it to people or public group not checked not checked forward it to people or public group as an attachment not checked reply using a specific template not checked flag message for follow up at this time not checked clear the Message Flag not checked clear message's categories not checked mark it as importance not checked print it not checked start application not checked mark it as read not checked run a script Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again this screen is okay, just tab next and press enter.

6. the next screen you wil see is; Rules Wizard Are there any exceptions? Step 1: Select exception's (if necessary) not checked except if from people or public group not checked except if the subject contains specific words not checked except through the specified account not checked except if sent only to me not checked except where my name is in the To box not checked except if it is marked as importance not checked except if it is marked as sensitivity except if it is flagged for action not checked not checked except where my name is in the Cc box not checked except if my name is in the To or Cc box not checked except where my name is not in the To box not checked except if sent to people or public group not checked except if the body contains specific words not checked except if the subject or body contains specific words not checked except if the message header contains specific words not checked except with specific words in the recipient's address not checked except with specific words in the sender's address not checked except if assigned to category category Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again, you can go to the next button and press enter.

7. now you're presented with the final screen;

Rules Wizard Finish rule setup. Step 1: Specify a name for this rule email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com Step 2: Setup rule options Run this rule now on messages already in "email clients with screen readers..." You need to check this box Turn on this rule this box should be checked, Create this rule on all accounts Step 3: Review rule description (click an underlined value to edit) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Now,

tab to finish and press enter.

The rule and conditions will be applied. The messages will be moved from the inbox to the folder, where the message/rule/folder/filter has been created.


difference between Jaws and Jaws non tandem builds?

Lauren Snyder
 

                               

 

Sincerely,

                                               

Lauren

 


Re: Windows 10 question

Lauren Snyder
 

Thank you. I am going to attempt and follow your steps. I may be emailing you from my IPhone.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Lauren

 

From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:58 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

 

Hi,

I sure did, Thank you so much for correcting my mistake. Lauren, that is what the versions are. I need some more coffee. Take care.

 

 

From: empacc.net

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:23 PM

Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

 

hi david:

you actually got your jaws versions transposed.

the jaws version 16 should be either:

jaws 16.0.4350, or:

jaws 16.0.4463, or:

the latest version of jaws 17 which is:

jaws17.0.1214.

just clarifying, is all.

don't want anyone to be confused.

take care.

 

 

 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:54 PM

Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

 

Hi Lauren,

You can upgrade without sighted help. You should install JAWS 17 first. Then, download the Tool from FS that will allow you to get rid of all previous JAWS versions from your computer along with shared components. The only version you should have on your computer is Version 17. If you want, You could also have version 16.0.1214. That will also work on Windows 10. Also, you will want to download the media creation tool from the MS page and save it to your computer. Make sure that you don’t run the media creation tool until you run that FS tool to get rid all versions of JAWS off your computer except 16.0.1214 and JAWS 17. Now, you can run the media creation tool to install win 10. Just press enter on the tool and press enter on upgrade this pc. JAWS will still be working. Once you get through some screens, JAWS will go quiet and this is when you wait an hour or more to let win10 download to your computer. It is around 3 gigs. After an hour, just turn on Narrator by pressing windows key + enter. You will be able to finish the install with Narrator. Now, since you have Windows 8, it should install fine after the first time. It is upgrading from Windows 7 that causes the trouble and it takes a few times. I upgraded from Windows 8.1, and it took me one time of running the media creation tool, and win10 installed great the first time. This is really important. When win10 installs and JAWS comes back talking, it is good to uninstall JAWS and reinstall JAWS. If you do this, even upgrading from win 8 or 8.1, you will get much better results from JAWS from then on out. Please email me if you have any questions. It is easy, and once win10 is on your computer, I can really help you get everything adjusted so you have the best experience using win10. You will love it and never want to go back. I will be thinking about you as you upgrade. Email me as soon as you have any questions. Take care, David Moore.

 

 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:37 PM

Subject: Windows 10 question

 

Hi:

 

Now I have Win8, Jaws 14. Can I upgrade to Jaws 17 and then install Windows 10 myself or do I need sighted help? Is it ok to install Jaws first?

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Lauren

 

Howard Wolcott


Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

Greg Nickel
 

Adrian

 

I’ve followed your instructions but when I go to create a rule it only gives me the option of sending the email address where I opened the rule to a folder and not a catch all of JFW as you suggested.  What am I doing wrong?

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:59 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to create a message rule in Outlook 2010 for the new list

 

After sending the message below, I realize it’s way too dense. Also, it’s missing a crucial point. I think I can summarize this way:

 

1.       Place focus next to a message that has been posted to this list. do not open it.

 

2.       Press the applications key and arrow up to “rules submenu.” Press enter.

 

3.       Down arrow to “Create new rule.” Press enter.

 

4.       Now, use the tab and up and down arrow keys through the various options and select the ones that are right for you. You’ll need to listen carefully, but the verbalizations are pretty clear.

 

5.       For the address of the list, I typed simply “jfw” into the appropriate edit field.

 

From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 2:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How to create a message rule for the new list

 

Many of us will want messages to the list sent to a separate folder. Here are the directions I copied and slightly edited that David Whitehead posted and that still work in Outlook 2010. I just created a rule using them.

 

message rules

David Whitehead. here's how I create a message rule/filter in Microsoft outlook 2010.

First I create the folder. Next we need to assign a rule/filter to the newly created folder, By doing the following;

1, highlight a message which you wish to create a folder for, Example; One of the messages from this group. Email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:Email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

2, press applications key, up arrow and enter on, Rules sub menu, Or, you could right arrow to open. Another way to do this is: Press applications key, press the letter "s" And then press the letter "u", which will directly place you into the message wizard. Here you will see the following screen; Always Move Messages From: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Always Move Messages To: email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com

Create Rule... Manage Rules & Alerts... you now need to down arrow and enter on, create rule.... Note, as I indicated, if you use the shortcuts, the letter "s"&"u" no need to arrow anywhere, since you're in the message rule wizard.

3. you will now see a screen; Create Rule When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions From email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com by default this box is unchecked you can check this box.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Subject contains [email clients with screen readers] Outlook 2007, this box is unchecked by default I would leave this box as it is.

When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com this box is unchecked by default you can check this box. Do the following Display in the New Item Alert window by default this box is unchecked, you can leave as is. Do the following:Play a selected sound: this box is unchecked by default, you can check this box,

Browse... Here you could browse for a specific sound; Move the item to folder:this box is unchecked by default, however you need to check this box, Folder...press enter here, Now, you can arrow to the particular folder, Or, you can letter navigate, Then tab okay, press enter. OK Cancel Advanced Options... now you need to tab and enter on, Advanced options...

4. You will see the following screen;

Rules Wizard Which condition's do you want to check? Step 1: Select condition's checked on this computer only checked from email clients with screen readers@...

Etc. (lots of options to arrow down through)

This screen is fine, Just tab next and press enter.

5. now you will see the following screen; Rules Wizard What do you want to do with the message? Step 1: Select action's checked stop processing more rules

checked play a sound

checked move it to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked move a copy to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked assign it to the category category not checked delete it not checked permanently delete it forward it to people or public group not checked not checked forward it to people or public group as an attachment not checked reply using a specific template not checked flag message for follow up at this time not checked clear the Message Flag not checked clear message's categories not checked mark it as importance not checked print it not checked start application not checked mark it as read not checked run a script Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again this screen is okay, just tab next and press enter.

6. the next screen you wil see is; Rules Wizard Are there any exceptions? Step 1: Select exception's (if necessary) not checked except if from people or public group not checked except if the subject contains specific words not checked except through the specified account not checked except if sent only to me not checked except where my name is in the To box not checked except if it is marked as importance not checked except if it is marked as sensitivity except if it is flagged for action not checked not checked except where my name is in the Cc box not checked except if my name is in the To or Cc box not checked except where my name is not in the To box not checked except if sent to people or public group not checked except if the body contains specific words not checked except if the subject or body contains specific words not checked except if the message header contains specific words not checked except with specific words in the recipient's address not checked except with specific words in the sender's address not checked except if assigned to category category Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again, you can go to the next button and press enter.

7. now you're presented with the final screen;

Rules Wizard Finish rule setup. Step 1: Specify a name for this rule email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com Step 2: Setup rule options Run this rule now on messages already in "email clients with screen readers..." You need to check this box Turn on this rule this box should be checked, Create this rule on all accounts Step 3: Review rule description (click an underlined value to edit) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@... <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Now,

tab to finish and press enter.

The rule and conditions will be applied. The messages will be moved from the inbox to the folder, where the message/rule/folder/filter has been created.


On the List

Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@...>
 

Here is my acknowledgment that I’ve been receiving all the messages, just so you have my address on file.

 

(sorry, I don’t mean to clog up everyone’s inbox with this.)

 

Kevin


Re: Testing

HAMILTON
 

Well, it works.

Jim H



Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Jim Ronald <jtmaronald@...> wrote:

 

 

Jim Ronald

 


Re: Testt only

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello Marie , I don't hear it's say JFW list Re: Test only in e-mail

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1@ct.metrocast.net]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:50 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Testt only

Yes. The other list indicated that email was coming from the JFW list in
the from field I'd say. This one only has the sender but not the list ID.


On 11/30/2015 4:40 PM, O.Addison Gethers wrote:
Hello groups owner ,
I'm getting confuse about jfw list e-mail because I don't know if this
is groups e-mail !! I don't hear it's say JFW list with subject line.


-----Original Message-----
From: Marion Woods [mailto:marion_woods38@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Testt only



Contact marion_woods38@yahoo.co.uk
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Re: Windows 10 question

David Moore
 

Hi,
I sure did, Thank you so much for correcting my mistake. Lauren, that is what the versions are. I need some more coffee. Take care.
 
 

From: empacc.net
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question
 
hi david:
you actually got your jaws versions transposed.
the jaws version 16 should be either:
jaws 16.0.4350, or:
jaws 16.0.4463, or:
the latest version of jaws 17 which is:
jaws17.0.1214.
just clarifying, is all.
don't want anyone to be confused.
take care.
 
 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question
 
Hi Lauren,
You can upgrade without sighted help. You should install JAWS 17 first. Then, download the Tool from FS that will allow you to get rid of all previous JAWS versions from your computer along with shared components. The only version you should have on your computer is Version 17. If you want, You could also have version 16.0.1214. That will also work on Windows 10. Also, you will want to download the media creation tool from the MS page and save it to your computer. Make sure that you don’t run the media creation tool until you run that FS tool to get rid all versions of JAWS off your computer except 16.0.1214 and JAWS 17. Now, you can run the media creation tool to install win 10. Just press enter on the tool and press enter on upgrade this pc. JAWS will still be working. Once you get through some screens, JAWS will go quiet and this is when you wait an hour or more to let win10 download to your computer. It is around 3 gigs. After an hour, just turn on Narrator by pressing windows key + enter. You will be able to finish the install with Narrator. Now, since you have Windows 8, it should install fine after the first time. It is upgrading from Windows 7 that causes the trouble and it takes a few times. I upgraded from Windows 8.1, and it took me one time of running the media creation tool, and win10 installed great the first time. This is really important. When win10 installs and JAWS comes back talking, it is good to uninstall JAWS and reinstall JAWS. If you do this, even upgrading from win 8 or 8.1, you will get much better results from JAWS from then on out. Please email me if you have any questions. It is easy, and once win10 is on your computer, I can really help you get everything adjusted so you have the best experience using win10. You will love it and never want to go back. I will be thinking about you as you upgrade. Email me as soon as you have any questions. Take care, David Moore.
 
 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 3:37 PM
Subject: Windows 10 question
 

Hi:

 

Now I have Win8, Jaws 14. Can I upgrade to Jaws 17 and then install Windows 10 myself or do I need sighted help? Is it ok to install Jaws first?

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Lauren

 

Howard Wolcott