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moderated Re: A dumb question

Maria Campbell
 


Control plus shift plus K starts the process for permanent bookmarks.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
On 4/18/2020 6:13 PM, Gene Stevens wrote:

I haven’t had to use place markers on a web ppage in quite a while. So today I was attempting to set place markers in JFW 2020 amd for the life of me can’t remember how. LOL.

 

I’ve been using JFW for over ten years but am habing a brain fart here. Anyone want to help me out here?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated A dumb question

Gene Stevens
 

I haven’t had to use place markers on a web ppage in quite a while. So today I was attempting to set place markers in JFW 2020 amd for the life of me can’t remember how. LOL.

 

I’ve been using JFW for over ten years but am habing a brain fart here. Anyone want to help me out here?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Stopping Jaws from saying level 1 and bullet numbers in Word?

Ann Byrne
 

Possibly in quick settings, reading options, uncheck outline level indication.

At 04:13 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
Not knowing what version of Word you're running hopefully the following will help:
1. With Word open press, Alt + T, then press the letter, O, or press, Alt + F, then press the letter, T, to open Word options.

2. Down arrow to, Proofing, and tab 1 time to, Auto correct options .... button, and press the spacebar to open.

3. Now, Control + Tab, to, Autoformat as you type, page, now Tab through all the options and you can turn off automatic bulleted list, numbered lists ETC + much more.

4. When you're done tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:matthewbullisaz@...>Matthew Bullis
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 11:58 AM
Subject: Stopping Jaws from saying level 1 and bullet numbers in Word?

Hello, is there a setting somewhere in verbosity or settings center that will cut down on Jaws saying bullet 55 of 273, or level 1 in a numbered list? In big documents, or when teaching clients, this extra verbiage is confusing.
Thanks, Matthew


moderated Recovering iTunes playlists

Justin Mcdevitt
 

Hello Group,

 

My iTunes music library and playlists are stored on my Pc with some playlists accessible on my iPhone.

iTunes has its flaws, as some of you would attest : one of which is that on occasion playlists disappear from my library, though the songs in these playlists are still there and intact.

There are also occasions, (as recently, when playlists disappear as well.

To counter these events, I have begun to back-up my music library and playlists: a recent decision and a good one.

However, before I started backing up my library, a playlist and the songs in it were deleted or disappeared.

I believe there is a way to recover songs in iTunes for Windows, (and I’m not sure about the correct word to use here), by identifying past iterations, (say from two or three months ago, when the playlist would have been in my library.

There was one tech who worked with the Apple Accessibility online support center who helped me to recover a playlist when this happened a year or so ago. I thought that I had taken notes (in braille) on the process, but if I did, they are not where I would have stored them.

Is there anyone on this list, who uses iTunes for Windows who has encountered this issue, or if not, is technically savvy enough to provide the steps on how to recover this playlist of 60-plus songs.

 

Best, Justin   


moderated Re: question about audio feedback loop when using Zoom

Richard Turner
 

I found the below on a Zoom blog.

The link is at the end.

 

audio feedback

Despite Zoom’s uncanny ability to provide you with an excellent video meeting every single time you use it, with any technology, there’s bound to be some problem every once in awhile.  For example you’re in a meeting, enjoying your chat, and suddenly you hear a noise that almost shreds your eardrums. What was that?!

 

This phenomenon is known as acoustic feedback and it occurs when sound that comes from a pair of speakers creates a loop that circulates back and forth between the speakers and your microphone. This usually happens in situations where someone is speaking publicly since the sound going into the microphone is also played back through a pair of speakers. Since you don’t experience the same playback situation in a Zoom meeting, this should be a rare occurrence. But with 10 million users, we’ve pretty much seen it all.

 

If you’re experiencing acoustic feedback on Zoom, you must first find out the reason why the blaring noise is giving your ears a hard time before you solve the issue.

 

Are You Playing Back Your Own Audio?

Your computer lets you have the option of playing back your own microphone’s audio through its speakers. If you have this setting enabled, you will be able to hear your own voice through your speakers even though you are not running any active applications. Try blowing into your microphone with your volume set high. If you hear some garbled audio coming from your speakers, you have microphone playback enabled.

 

On Mac OS X, this is not a default option that comes with the operating system. However, if you’re using Windows, you will have to shut this option down to prevent feedback.

 

On Windows 7 and 8, right-click the speaker icon on the taskbar at the bottom right-hand side of your screen and then click “Sounds.” Select the “Recording” tab and pick your active microphone. Once you’ve selected it, click the “Properties” button found below your list of recording devices. Click the “Listen” tab and then deselect the option labeled “Listen to this device.” Once you’ve configured everything, your Zoom meeting should run smoothly.

 

If you want to keep the playback, pay special attention to where your microphone is situated. Keep your microphone as far away from your speakers as possible and make sure it is pointing in the opposite direction. You will also have to keep your playback volume low for microphone playback to work without any acoustic feedback.

 

Are Other Computers In The Same Room Joining Your Meeting?

zoom - multiple devices

Two computers join a Zoom meeting from the same room. Why? Maybe one of them wanted to join from their laptop or mobile device to screen share a document, or maybe they just wanted stay at their desk to multitask during the meeting instead of joining their colleagues on the big screen. Regardless of the reason, both of them have their speakers on full blast and microphones situated close to those speakers. Almost instantly, your room will sound like a very badly set-up stage for a rock concert.

 

To correct this issue, either have the second device leave the meeting or mute its microphone and speaker. If this is a conference room where you’ll be expecting company, the best setup is to have one or two monitors positioned at the end of a table with a powerful set of speakers and microphone.

 

Someone’s Speaker Volume is Extremely High

In some video meetings, you’ll encounter a participant whose speaker volume is so obnoxiously high that you can hear yourself through his equipment. This could be the one thing causing a feedback loop. You see, your voice passes through your microphone into the Zoom meeting, then goes out the other end through the oblivious participant’s speakers, back into their microphone, and back out your speakers. If the sound is loud enough, it will bounce back into your microphone, starting the process all over again. As it loops, the sound gets distorted and you get a very nasty echo.

 

In this situation, try muting the participant whose equipment you think is causing problems for a few seconds. If the issue is resolved, inform the participant of the situation and ask them to lower their speaker volume. While you’re at it, make it a policy for meeting participants to keep their speaker volumes at a decent level or wear headphones. This eliminates the possibility of unwanted sounds having a dance party on everyone’s ear drums.

 

https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2014/03/20/troubleshooting-audio-feedback-zoom/

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amy Bower
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:02 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Cc: Amy S Bower <abower@...>
Subject: question about audio feedback loop when using Zoom

 

Hi All:

I’ve become a frequent Zoom user in this new universe of working from home. I’m working on a Lenovo P53 laptop running Windows 10 and Jaws 2020. My problem is that in almost every meeting, my mic and speakers get suddenly muted, and a dialogue box pops up entitled “feedback loop detected”. There are yes and no buttons in the dialogue box to choose whether to continue muting or not. #1 issue is that when everything mutes, so does Jaws, so I don’t even know that the dialogue box has appeared, and can’t use Jaws to navigate to the buttons on it. I’ve figured out a work-around for that, from a tech at FS – I press jaws key + escape, which unmutes Jaws. Then I can navigate to the no button on the dialogue box.

But the bigger problem to solve (#2 problem) is getting this dialogue box not to appear at all, and not to have the mic and speakers automatically muted during a Zoom meeting. I’ve looked everywhere on Google search, and can’t find hardly any reference to this issue at all. After browsing through Jonathan Mosen’s book on Zoom (which is free at the moment, BTW), and not finding anything about this, I emailed Jonathan to ask him directly. His suggestion is to use a USB headset bc it essentially has it’s own sound card built in. There may be an issue with Jaws and the mic/speakers using the same sound card, that hopefully will be overcome with the USB headset. I had been using either the built-in mic and speakers, or a Bos Sport set of headphones with a mic in the cord, that plugs into the laptop’s audio jack. The unwanted muting problem occurs with both set ups. My home office usually has a USB headset kicking around, but alas, when I went to look for one, I found none – I must have taken them to my office. Getting a new one these days is like getting toilet paper, but I do have one on order from Amazon, due to arrive Wednesday. I’m hoping that will solve this very annoying problem. In the meantime, I thought I would describe this problem to the list and see if anyone else had this problem and new how to solve it another way.

Be well.

-Amy B.


moderated Re: Stopping Jaws from saying level 1 and bullet numbers in Word?

Mike B
 

Not knowing what version of Word you're running hopefully the following will help:
1. With Word open press, Alt + T, then press the letter, O, or press, Alt + F, then press the letter, T, to open Word options.
 
2. Down arrow to, Proofing, and tab 1 time to, Auto correct options .... button, and press the spacebar to open.
 
3. Now, Control + Tab, to, Autoformat as you type, page, now Tab through all the options and you can turn off automatic bulleted list, numbered lists ETC + much more.
 
4. When you're done tab to, Okay, press enter to save and close.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 11:58 AM
Subject: Stopping Jaws from saying level 1 and bullet numbers in Word?

Hello, is there a setting somewhere in verbosity or settings center that will cut down on Jaws saying bullet 55 of 273, or level 1 in a numbered list? In big documents, or when teaching clients, this extra verbiage is confusing.
Thanks, Matthew


moderated speech and sound scheme and misspelled words

Leo
 

Hello everyone,

I have a speech scheme for Microsoft Word that announces text with attributes using a different voice. Theoretically, I can do the same for misspelled words and grammar mistakes. In this way, jaws would read the text that Microsoft word has marked as grammatically mistaken. My problem is that after choosing spelling error from the list and assigning a voice alias to announce the text, well, it doesn’t make a difference, and I turn out listening jaws reading the misspelled text with the same voice.

 

Does anyone have an idea of how I can make this work?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--
Best,
   Leo


moderated Re: question about audio feedback loop when using Zoom

JM Casey
 

Hey.

 

Well, from my understand, feedback loops are bad, and this sounds like an automatic zoom feature that must have been put in place to protect meeting participants. I would think even just plugging in a pair of headphones to your existing soundcard would probably solve the problem. It sounds like Zoom thinks the mic is picking up sound from your speakers, which is then being transmitted to the conference – not a good thing. Using headphones should solve this problem. Or maybe a uni-directional mic?

Bit drastic of Zoom to mute the entire sound setup, mind you…no question of that; definitely not good for screen-reader users who rely on speech.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amy Bower
Sent: April 18, 2020 3:02 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Cc: Amy S Bower <abower@...>
Subject: question about audio feedback loop when using Zoom

 

Hi All:

I’ve become a frequent Zoom user in this new universe of working from home. I’m working on a Lenovo P53 laptop running Windows 10 and Jaws 2020. My problem is that in almost every meeting, my mic and speakers get suddenly muted, and a dialogue box pops up entitled “feedback loop detected”. There are yes and no buttons in the dialogue box to choose whether to continue muting or not. #1 issue is that when everything mutes, so does Jaws, so I don’t even know that the dialogue box has appeared, and can’t use Jaws to navigate to the buttons on it. I’ve figured out a work-around for that, from a tech at FS – I press jaws key + escape, which unmutes Jaws. Then I can navigate to the no button on the dialogue box.

But the bigger problem to solve (#2 problem) is getting this dialogue box not to appear at all, and not to have the mic and speakers automatically muted during a Zoom meeting. I’ve looked everywhere on Google search, and can’t find hardly any reference to this issue at all. After browsing through Jonathan Mosen’s book on Zoom (which is free at the moment, BTW), and not finding anything about this, I emailed Jonathan to ask him directly. His suggestion is to use a USB headset bc it essentially has it’s own sound card built in. There may be an issue with Jaws and the mic/speakers using the same sound card, that hopefully will be overcome with the USB headset. I had been using either the built-in mic and speakers, or a Bos Sport set of headphones with a mic in the cord, that plugs into the laptop’s audio jack. The unwanted muting problem occurs with both set ups. My home office usually has a USB headset kicking around, but alas, when I went to look for one, I found none – I must have taken them to my office. Getting a new one these days is like getting toilet paper, but I do have one on order from Amazon, due to arrive Wednesday. I’m hoping that will solve this very annoying problem. In the meantime, I thought I would describe this problem to the list and see if anyone else had this problem and new how to solve it another way.

Be well.

-Amy B.


moderated question about audio feedback loop when using Zoom

Amy Bower
 

Hi All:

I’ve become a frequent Zoom user in this new universe of working from home. I’m working on a Lenovo P53 laptop running Windows 10 and Jaws 2020. My problem is that in almost every meeting, my mic and speakers get suddenly muted, and a dialogue box pops up entitled “feedback loop detected”. There are yes and no buttons in the dialogue box to choose whether to continue muting or not. #1 issue is that when everything mutes, so does Jaws, so I don’t even know that the dialogue box has appeared, and can’t use Jaws to navigate to the buttons on it. I’ve figured out a work-around for that, from a tech at FS – I press jaws key + escape, which unmutes Jaws. Then I can navigate to the no button on the dialogue box.

But the bigger problem to solve (#2 problem) is getting this dialogue box not to appear at all, and not to have the mic and speakers automatically muted during a Zoom meeting. I’ve looked everywhere on Google search, and can’t find hardly any reference to this issue at all. After browsing through Jonathan Mosen’s book on Zoom (which is free at the moment, BTW), and not finding anything about this, I emailed Jonathan to ask him directly. His suggestion is to use a USB headset bc it essentially has it’s own sound card built in. There may be an issue with Jaws and the mic/speakers using the same sound card, that hopefully will be overcome with the USB headset. I had been using either the built-in mic and speakers, or a Bos Sport set of headphones with a mic in the cord, that plugs into the laptop’s audio jack. The unwanted muting problem occurs with both set ups. My home office usually has a USB headset kicking around, but alas, when I went to look for one, I found none – I must have taken them to my office. Getting a new one these days is like getting toilet paper, but I do have one on order from Amazon, due to arrive Wednesday. I’m hoping that will solve this very annoying problem. In the meantime, I thought I would describe this problem to the list and see if anyone else had this problem and new how to solve it another way.

Be well.

-Amy B.


moderated Re: application mode

Mario
 

assuming the numlock is off, tap the numpad plus key twice quickly,
like this: tap tap.
tap, tap is not going to work.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Justin Williams [mailto:justin.williams2@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2020, 1:18 PM
Subject: application mode
Okay, I thought I pressd it twice, and that didn't work, but it was late.

As you see, I got out of it in some interesting ways, but I'll try the
double pc cursor method.

Thanks,

Justin

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:25 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: application mode

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web
application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jessica D
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: application mode

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually?

Regards,

Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@... <mailto:david.goldfield@...>>
wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses
on their Xfinity Stream <https://www.xfinity.com/stream>Web app.
When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into
application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more
beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when
using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor
if you want to but application mode gives you some additional
functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises
or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right
arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable.
Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark
key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual
cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you
first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these
dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3
being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?"

I've never heard of it until now.

Regards,

Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@...>
<mailto:david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of
applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice
quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice
quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual
cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming
this is happening on a Web page.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *Justin Williams
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* application mode

Had an issue today with application mode.

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I
couldn't get out of application mode.

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was
uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used
rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling
up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way
of working with that…

Thanks,

Justin


moderated Re: application mode

Justin Williams
 

Okay, I thought I pressd it twice, and that didn't work, but it was late.

 

As you see, I got out of it in some interesting ways, but I'll try the double pc cursor method.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: An accessible router

Gmail Jonas
 

Yes, and make it a 10Gig   network, thanks!

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

One can make a router with an old computer and a couple network cards, using Linux.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:24 AM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

FYI!

I am a PC tekh for 12 years, and I am Comp-it certified!

 

 

Yes you can use just about any browser!

And if you need to find the default IP address you can use cmd.exe and the

IpConfig or Ipconfig /all switches

I did a serch for the word usb on the page! I just lookt at my router and one on front and one in the back, I think it will support printers and USB hard disk!

In the past I have owned Linksys, netgear, buffalo, and some other ones!

All was very good with Jaws!

I find the most inportent to find one with support for the stuff you are wanting to use!

 

I really like the buffalo router I had was very powerful WiFi, I got signals 4 or 5 apartments down at my friends place!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=blindstuff-20&keywords=buffalo routers&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=a4645a7c7c7f52aee7c779738f266162

I think I used it for like 6 or 8 years!

 

I did try one of the Synology routers but it was not very good for Jaws, but the router are very nice and supports very much, it is like it’s own computer!

But are a bit expensive $ 190.00  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5MPTG1/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B01N5MPTG1&linkCode=as2&tag=blindstuff-20&linkId=4689a9f57bb123997692bedd25c02aec

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

\

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I didn’t see on the listing you linked to where it has USB.  Can you use a browser to interface with it for setting it up?  I don’t want to have to use an ap on my phone.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

 

The NETGEAR, Nighthawk R6400 is a nice one I use it and it’s good with

2.4 and 5 GHZ!

https://amzn.to/2Va3jse

And it’s about $ 100, with support for USB!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.  Routers are accessible through their web interface.  Ask the technician who will help you set up your router to give you your router's web address.  The address might, for example, be 192.168.2.154, something like that.  Then you can access it as you would any web site and set up the router on your own if you need to.  Cheers!
On 4/15/2020 5:15 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


moderated Re: An accessible router

Glenn / Lenny
 


One can make a router with an old computer and a couple network cards, using Linux.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: An accessible router

FYI!

I am a PC tekh for 12 years, and I am Comp-it certified!

 

 

Yes you can use just about any browser!

And if you need to find the default IP address you can use cmd.exe and the

IpConfig or Ipconfig /all switches

I did a serch for the word usb on the page! I just lookt at my router and one on front and one in the back, I think it will support printers and USB hard disk!

In the past I have owned Linksys, netgear, buffalo, and some other ones!

All was very good with Jaws!

I find the most inportent to find one with support for the stuff you are wanting to use!

 

I really like the buffalo router I had was very powerful WiFi, I got signals 4 or 5 apartments down at my friends place!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=blindstuff-20&keywords=buffalo routers&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=a4645a7c7c7f52aee7c779738f266162

I think I used it for like 6 or 8 years!

 

I did try one of the Synology routers but it was not very good for Jaws, but the router are very nice and supports very much, it is like it’s own computer!

But are a bit expensive $ 190.00  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5MPTG1/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B01N5MPTG1&linkCode=as2&tag=blindstuff-20&linkId=4689a9f57bb123997692bedd25c02aec

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I didn’t see on the listing you linked to where it has USB.  Can you use a browser to interface with it for setting it up?  I don’t want to have to use an ap on my phone.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: Gmail Jonas

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

 

The NETGEAR, Nighthawk R6400 is a nice one I use it and it’s good with

2.4 and 5 GHZ!

https://amzn.to/2Va3jse

And it’s about $ 100, with support for USB!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.  Routers are accessible through their web interface.  Ask the technician who will help you set up your router to give you your router's web address.  The address might, for example, be 192.168.2.154, something like that.  Then you can access it as you would any web site and set up the router on your own if you need to.  Cheers!
On 4/15/2020 5:15 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


moderated Re: An accessible router

Gmail Jonas
 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

This of course means you absolutely have to change the password to something a lot more secure

Yep, and you need to understand there is a userid (often admin, and often cannot be changed) and password to log in to the router to allow you to configure all its settings, and that is not the same thing as the SSID/network name and password pair used to connect devices to the router via WiFi.

The passwords need to be something you can recall easily (or record) but that are also secure.  I have been suggesting what I call The Portmanteau Method of Creating Passwords for years now.  It allows an end user to create passwords that are easy for them to remember, but well-nigh impossible for any random passerby intent on getting in to your router as the administrator, or join your WiFi network, respectively, to guess.

Also, don't make your SSID/network name something that obviously links it to your physical location.  Although the days of drive-by attempts to connect to open networks is long gone, it still makes sense not to use a SSID/network name like 123Main if you live at 123 Main Street.   Pick something immediately identifiable by you, but not obvious to the outside world.  As an example, my partner is a big fan of Japanese maples, one of my former SSIDs/network names was acer-palmatum, the botanical name for Japanese maples.  
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated Re: application mode

Mike B
 


Hi Sieghard,
 
I've never encountered Jaws going into application mode, but do you know in what version of Jaws this feature was first implemented?  Thanks much.  I'd like to know for the sake of saving notes with correct versions of Jaws.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: application mode

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: An accessible router

Gmail Jonas
 

FYI!

I am a PC tekh for 12 years, and I am Comp-it certified!

 

 

Yes you can use just about any browser!

And if you need to find the default IP address you can use cmd.exe and the

IpConfig or Ipconfig /all switches

I did a serch for the word usb on the page! I just lookt at my router and one on front and one in the back, I think it will support printers and USB hard disk!

In the past I have owned Linksys, netgear, buffalo, and some other ones!

All was very good with Jaws!

I find the most inportent to find one with support for the stuff you are wanting to use!

 

I really like the buffalo router I had was very powerful WiFi, I got signals 4 or 5 apartments down at my friends place!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=blindstuff-20&keywords=buffalo routers&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=a4645a7c7c7f52aee7c779738f266162

I think I used it for like 6 or 8 years!

 

I did try one of the Synology routers but it was not very good for Jaws, but the router are very nice and supports very much, it is like it’s own computer!

But are a bit expensive $ 190.00  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5MPTG1/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B01N5MPTG1&linkCode=as2&tag=blindstuff-20&linkId=4689a9f57bb123997692bedd25c02aec

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I didn’t see on the listing you linked to where it has USB.  Can you use a browser to interface with it for setting it up?  I don’t want to have to use an ap on my phone.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

 

The NETGEAR, Nighthawk R6400 is a nice one I use it and it’s good with

2.4 and 5 GHZ!

https://amzn.to/2Va3jse

And it’s about $ 100, with support for USB!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.  Routers are accessible through their web interface.  Ask the technician who will help you set up your router to give you your router's web address.  The address might, for example, be 192.168.2.154, something like that.  Then you can access it as you would any web site and set up the router on your own if you need to.  Cheers!
On 4/15/2020 5:15 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


moderated Re: best vm software works with jaws

Gmail Jonas
 

Hey this link may help youout!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YisbQGCa7nU&t=65s

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best vm software works with jaws

 

Hi. Which vm software works well. Trying hyper v manager and using jaws remote. Have to do a lot of ocr. So, might just go with either vm ware workstation 30 day trial. And then just purchase it after, or with virtual box, if able to set up audio. So does either set up audio for that.

Any one done this.

Thanks.

And now for now. Will just get my friend to uinstall. Jaws reading a lot of things, and some of the items running into each other, and cannot hear any thing doing.

Any ideas.

Thanks..


moderated Re: application mode

 

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

Jessica D
 

Hi David,
Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 


Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

David Goldfield
 

Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin