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moderated Re: application mode

Mario
 

assuming the numlock is off, tap the numpad plus key twice quickly,
like this: tap tap.
tap, tap is not going to work.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Justin Williams [mailto:justin.williams2@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, April 18, 2020, 1:18 PM
Subject: application mode
Okay, I thought I pressd it twice, and that didn't work, but it was late.

As you see, I got out of it in some interesting ways, but I'll try the
double pc cursor method.

Thanks,

Justin

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:25 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: application mode

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web
application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jessica D
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: application mode

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually?

Regards,

Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@... <mailto:david.goldfield@...>>
wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses
on their Xfinity Stream <https://www.xfinity.com/stream>Web app.
When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into
application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more
beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when
using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor
if you want to but application mode gives you some additional
functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises
or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right
arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable.
Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark
key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual
cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you
first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these
dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3
being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?"

I've never heard of it until now.

Regards,

Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@...>
<mailto:david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of
applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice
quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice
quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual
cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming
this is happening on a Web page.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *Justin Williams
*Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* application mode

Had an issue today with application mode.

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I
couldn't get out of application mode.

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was
uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used
rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling
up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way
of working with that…

Thanks,

Justin


moderated Re: application mode

Justin Williams
 

Okay, I thought I pressd it twice, and that didn't work, but it was late.

 

As you see, I got out of it in some interesting ways, but I'll try the double pc cursor method.

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica

 

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: An accessible router

Gmail Jonas
 

Yes, and make it a 10Gig   network, thanks!

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

One can make a router with an old computer and a couple network cards, using Linux.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:24 AM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

FYI!

I am a PC tekh for 12 years, and I am Comp-it certified!

 

 

Yes you can use just about any browser!

And if you need to find the default IP address you can use cmd.exe and the

IpConfig or Ipconfig /all switches

I did a serch for the word usb on the page! I just lookt at my router and one on front and one in the back, I think it will support printers and USB hard disk!

In the past I have owned Linksys, netgear, buffalo, and some other ones!

All was very good with Jaws!

I find the most inportent to find one with support for the stuff you are wanting to use!

 

I really like the buffalo router I had was very powerful WiFi, I got signals 4 or 5 apartments down at my friends place!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=blindstuff-20&keywords=buffalo routers&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=a4645a7c7c7f52aee7c779738f266162

I think I used it for like 6 or 8 years!

 

I did try one of the Synology routers but it was not very good for Jaws, but the router are very nice and supports very much, it is like it’s own computer!

But are a bit expensive $ 190.00  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5MPTG1/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B01N5MPTG1&linkCode=as2&tag=blindstuff-20&linkId=4689a9f57bb123997692bedd25c02aec

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

\

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I didn’t see on the listing you linked to where it has USB.  Can you use a browser to interface with it for setting it up?  I don’t want to have to use an ap on my phone.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

 

The NETGEAR, Nighthawk R6400 is a nice one I use it and it’s good with

2.4 and 5 GHZ!

https://amzn.to/2Va3jse

And it’s about $ 100, with support for USB!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.  Routers are accessible through their web interface.  Ask the technician who will help you set up your router to give you your router's web address.  The address might, for example, be 192.168.2.154, something like that.  Then you can access it as you would any web site and set up the router on your own if you need to.  Cheers!
On 4/15/2020 5:15 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


moderated Re: An accessible router

Glenn / Lenny
 


One can make a router with an old computer and a couple network cards, using Linux.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: An accessible router

FYI!

I am a PC tekh for 12 years, and I am Comp-it certified!

 

 

Yes you can use just about any browser!

And if you need to find the default IP address you can use cmd.exe and the

IpConfig or Ipconfig /all switches

I did a serch for the word usb on the page! I just lookt at my router and one on front and one in the back, I think it will support printers and USB hard disk!

In the past I have owned Linksys, netgear, buffalo, and some other ones!

All was very good with Jaws!

I find the most inportent to find one with support for the stuff you are wanting to use!

 

I really like the buffalo router I had was very powerful WiFi, I got signals 4 or 5 apartments down at my friends place!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=blindstuff-20&keywords=buffalo routers&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=a4645a7c7c7f52aee7c779738f266162

I think I used it for like 6 or 8 years!

 

I did try one of the Synology routers but it was not very good for Jaws, but the router are very nice and supports very much, it is like it’s own computer!

But are a bit expensive $ 190.00  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5MPTG1/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B01N5MPTG1&linkCode=as2&tag=blindstuff-20&linkId=4689a9f57bb123997692bedd25c02aec

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

\

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I didn’t see on the listing you linked to where it has USB.  Can you use a browser to interface with it for setting it up?  I don’t want to have to use an ap on my phone.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

From: Gmail Jonas

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

 

The NETGEAR, Nighthawk R6400 is a nice one I use it and it’s good with

2.4 and 5 GHZ!

https://amzn.to/2Va3jse

And it’s about $ 100, with support for USB!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.  Routers are accessible through their web interface.  Ask the technician who will help you set up your router to give you your router's web address.  The address might, for example, be 192.168.2.154, something like that.  Then you can access it as you would any web site and set up the router on your own if you need to.  Cheers!
On 4/15/2020 5:15 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


moderated Re: An accessible router

Gmail Jonas
 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

This of course means you absolutely have to change the password to something a lot more secure

Yep, and you need to understand there is a userid (often admin, and often cannot be changed) and password to log in to the router to allow you to configure all its settings, and that is not the same thing as the SSID/network name and password pair used to connect devices to the router via WiFi.

The passwords need to be something you can recall easily (or record) but that are also secure.  I have been suggesting what I call The Portmanteau Method of Creating Passwords for years now.  It allows an end user to create passwords that are easy for them to remember, but well-nigh impossible for any random passerby intent on getting in to your router as the administrator, or join your WiFi network, respectively, to guess.

Also, don't make your SSID/network name something that obviously links it to your physical location.  Although the days of drive-by attempts to connect to open networks is long gone, it still makes sense not to use a SSID/network name like 123Main if you live at 123 Main Street.   Pick something immediately identifiable by you, but not obvious to the outside world.  As an example, my partner is a big fan of Japanese maples, one of my former SSIDs/network names was acer-palmatum, the botanical name for Japanese maples.  
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman


moderated Re: application mode

Mike B
 


Hi Sieghard,
 
I've never encountered Jaws going into application mode, but do you know in what version of Jaws this feature was first implemented?  Thanks much.  I'd like to know for the sake of saving notes with correct versions of Jaws.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: application mode

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: An accessible router

Gmail Jonas
 

FYI!

I am a PC tekh for 12 years, and I am Comp-it certified!

 

 

Yes you can use just about any browser!

And if you need to find the default IP address you can use cmd.exe and the

IpConfig or Ipconfig /all switches

I did a serch for the word usb on the page! I just lookt at my router and one on front and one in the back, I think it will support printers and USB hard disk!

In the past I have owned Linksys, netgear, buffalo, and some other ones!

All was very good with Jaws!

I find the most inportent to find one with support for the stuff you are wanting to use!

 

I really like the buffalo router I had was very powerful WiFi, I got signals 4 or 5 apartments down at my friends place!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=blindstuff-20&keywords=buffalo routers&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&linkId=a4645a7c7c7f52aee7c779738f266162

I think I used it for like 6 or 8 years!

 

I did try one of the Synology routers but it was not very good for Jaws, but the router are very nice and supports very much, it is like it’s own computer!

But are a bit expensive $ 190.00  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5MPTG1/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B01N5MPTG1&linkCode=as2&tag=blindstuff-20&linkId=4689a9f57bb123997692bedd25c02aec

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

\

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I didn’t see on the listing you linked to where it has USB.  Can you use a browser to interface with it for setting it up?  I don’t want to have to use an ap on my phone.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

 

The NETGEAR, Nighthawk R6400 is a nice one I use it and it’s good with

2.4 and 5 GHZ!

https://amzn.to/2Va3jse

And it’s about $ 100, with support for USB!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.  Routers are accessible through their web interface.  Ask the technician who will help you set up your router to give you your router's web address.  The address might, for example, be 192.168.2.154, something like that.  Then you can access it as you would any web site and set up the router on your own if you need to.  Cheers!
On 4/15/2020 5:15 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:


moderated Re: best vm software works with jaws

Gmail Jonas
 

Hey this link may help youout!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YisbQGCa7nU&t=65s

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:02 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: best vm software works with jaws

 

Hi. Which vm software works well. Trying hyper v manager and using jaws remote. Have to do a lot of ocr. So, might just go with either vm ware workstation 30 day trial. And then just purchase it after, or with virtual box, if able to set up audio. So does either set up audio for that.

Any one done this.

Thanks.

And now for now. Will just get my friend to uinstall. Jaws reading a lot of things, and some of the items running into each other, and cannot hear any thing doing.

Any ideas.

Thanks..


moderated Re: application mode

 

No, Jaws drops into application mode automatically if it detects a web application, as far as I know you can’t deliberately enable it.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: application mode

 

Hi David,

Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,

My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 

I've never heard of it until now. 

 

Regards,

Jessica



On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

Jessica D
 

Hi David,
Is there a way to enable this mode manually? 


Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:13 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:



Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

David Goldfield
 

Hi, again. Another example of this is the video player Comcast uses on their Xfinity Stream Web app. When you begin playing a TV program or a movie. JAWS goes into application mode when the player window opens as it's actually more beneficial to interact with the player in this mode than it is when using the virtual cursor. You can, of course, use the virtual cursor if you want to but application mode gives you some additional functionality. As an example, pressing up arrow or down arrow raises or lowers the volume, respectively. Pressing left arrow or right arrow moves backward or forward through the video, when applicable. Pressing M mutes or unmutes the audio, pressing the question mark key generates a list of shortcut keys, etc. If you had the virtual cursor enabled much of this functionality would not work unless you first press the pass-through hotkey before pressing one of these dedicated keys. In JAWS, the pass-through hotkey is insert-3, the 3 being on the row of numbers and not on the numeric keypad.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

David Goldfield
 

Jessica,

There is no need to apologize as this is a good question as this is something that many users will encounter with no explanation as to why it is happening. I'm going to paste a response to this question that I found from the JFW list from four years ago from Aaron Page, as I do like his explanation. I'll just add that pressing the PC cursor key twice is an easier way to exit application mode than pressing insert-z twice, which is what he learned to do at the time of his response. Here is his message.


Hi Ann,

Application Mode is a mode that JAWS will enter when it begins to interact with a web application. Application Mode is designed to treat the web application as if it were a typical Windows-based program, and not as a web page. The advantage to this is that application-specific keyboard shortcuts will work without the need to use the JAWS pass-through, the disadvantage is that typical JAWS keyboard shortcuts (i.e. "H" for headings, "B" for buttons) will not work as these keystrokes are now being passed through JAWS to the application.

When using web applications that trigger JAWS' Application Mode, it is usually very helpful to learn keyboard shortcuts that are specific to the application in order to effectively navigate and use the application. You should also have some success (if the application is accessible) navigating the web application using tab and the arrow keys.

You can usually tell that you are entering an application as JAWS will announce "Application", and upon pressing Enter you should hear JAWS beep as if it just entered a form. The most frustrating thing about application mode (in my opinion) is the difficulty in getting back out of the application. I usually will press Insert+Z to set the Virtual PC Cursor to off, and then press Insert+Z again to turn the Virtual PC Cursor back on. After turning off and back on the Virtual PC Cursor you should again be able to use normal JAWS keyboard shortcuts. If anyone on-list knows a better way to exit applications mode, I would love to hear it.

You can practice using applications mode on this page: https://www.tinymce.com/. If you press "R" to move through the regions you will encounter the application region, at which point you can press Enter to enter applications mode and begin interacting with the application. This example is an HTML text editor called TinyMCE, which is a commonly used editor that uses an application region and is relatively accessible.

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Aaron M. Page, B.S.
EIT Accessibility Specialist
Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/18/2020 10:44 AM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

Jessica D
 

Hi,
My apologies, but what's "application mode?" 
I've never heard of it until now. 
 

Regards,
Jessica

On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:39 AM, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

 >If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

David Goldfield
 

>If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.That is exactly right.

That is exactly correct. Pressing the PC cursor key twice quickly reactivates either the PC cursor or the virtual cursor. Most likely it will be the virtual cursor assuming this is happening on a Web page.


 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: application mode

Adrian Spratt
 

If I understand your question correctly, I get out of applications mode by pressing the PC cursor twice quickly.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: application mode

 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated application mode

Justin Williams
 

Had an issue today with application mode.

 

I was uploading a file, and when I got done with it, I couldn't get out of application mode.

 

Not to mention, that it didn't tell me whether I was uploading a resume, a reference, or a cover letter.

 

I used rout jaws to pc to arrow around some, then used rooted pc to jaws to break out of it.

 

Also, I found that hitting enter twice, and or pulling up the links list and selecting, move to link worked.

 

However, I was wondering if any of you had a better way of working with that…

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: Using JAWS to create a label for a button on a web site, which has no text label

Dave Durber
 

Ceigart:

Unfortunately, the link and the button I posted about, are on the site after you have logged on with your user name and password.

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <@Sieghard>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Using JAWS to create a label for a button on a web site, which has no text label


Could you give the link to that site if it's not private?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to create a label for a button on a web site, which has no text label

Hello everyone:

The other day, I accessed a web site, which on the whole, was very accessible.

Unfortunately, there were 2 problems. the first, was the link, which took you to the shopping basket page. This link had no text lable, to tell a user of a screen reader the purpose of the link. The link is a standard HTML coded link.

the second is a standard HTML button, which also does not have a text label.
This button is for removing an item from the shopping basket.

My question is, is there a way within JAWS, where you can attach labels to specific links and buttons on an individual web site?

The link and button on this web site are not graphics

Thanks in anticipation.

Dave Durber


moderated Re: Adding a new profile in Google Chrome

Pramit
 

Hi Bill,

Adding the steps below to add or remove new profile on Google Chrome

1. Go to Chrome Settings "Alt + F + S"
2. Tab to "You and Google" and hit Enter.
3. Tab Once and Hit spacebar and you'll get few options
4. Arrow down to select any one of the "Use Another Account" or "Sign Out"

Hope this helps

Pramit


On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:14 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

What are the steps for adding a new profile in Google Chrome with JAWS?

 

And as long as I am asking, what would be the steps for removing a profile?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 


moderated Re: undoing effect in Excel

Ann Byrne
 

Using these keystrokes creates a .jsi file, which you will need to delete in order to remove the command.

Go to the JAWS screen.
Utilities
explore utilities folder.
Explore my settings.
Personalized settings.
the excel.jsi file will be there.
Wipe it out.

If that doesn't work, holler and I will look harder.At 06:09 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

I've used Alt+Control+JAWSKey+R which defines the selected columns as those containing row titles for the current region.
I've also used Alt+Control+JAWSKey+C which defines the selected rows as those containing column titles for the current region.

what do I have to do if I do not need or want the effect anymore?


moderated Re: An accessible router

Gmail Jonas
 

Some routers aare using chips that will over heat!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

Yes, mine is 802.11AC.

On 4/16/20, 21:01, "David Csercsics" <main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of bleeblat@...> wrote:

Were you able to get openwrt to work with wifi 6 or 80211ac? The page I
looked at seemed to indicate that only 80211G was supported or
something, but I'd need at least N I'd think. What sort of router did
you get? I liked openwrt when I used it, but haven't been able to find a
supported router lately. Maybe they haven't updated the hardware table?