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moderated Re: An accessible router

 

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
This of course means you absolutely have to change the password to something a lot more secure
Yep, and you need to understand there is a userid (often admin, and often cannot be changed) and password to log in to the router to allow you to configure all its settings, and that is not the same thing as the SSID/network name and password pair used to connect devices to the router via WiFi.

The passwords need to be something you can recall easily (or record) but that are also secure.  I have been suggesting what I call The Portmanteau Method of Creating Passwords for years now.  It allows an end user to create passwords that are easy for them to remember, but well-nigh impossible for any random passerby intent on getting in to your router as the administrator, or join your WiFi network, respectively, to guess.

Also, don't make your SSID/network name something that obviously links it to your physical location.  Although the days of drive-by attempts to connect to open networks is long gone, it still makes sense not to use a SSID/network name like 123Main if you live at 123 Main Street.   Pick something immediately identifiable by you, but not obvious to the outside world.  As an example, my partner is a big fan of Japanese maples, one of my former SSIDs/network names was acer-palmatum, the botanical name for Japanese maples.  
 
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moderated Re: An accessible router

michaeel's mail
 

Yes its from IInet its the second one llike that.

In the past they was just blank.

cheers Michael.

On 15/04/2020 12:33 pm, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

I've never heard of that, unless it came from an ISP.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: An accessible router

The thing i find annoying with any of the wifi modems i get lately the password is already turned on by default to access the modem settigs.

In the past it was blank now you need sighted help to read the password under the modem.

cheers Michael.

On 15/04/2020 11:28 am, Tyler Wood wrote:

I have the google wireless nest mesh system which works, most likely, the best of any router I have ever owned, hardware wise

It’s fantastic if you happen to have a mobile device, however they do require the google WiFi app. The app itself provides everything in a fantastic and screen reader friendly area, however, and there isn’t an unlabeled button found.  However if your specific requirement is PC, unfortunately out of luck there, which is odd to me.

Hope that helps somewhat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

Hi.

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: An accessible router

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, Marty, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio.  Netger and Asus routers are great, as long as you can access them from your browser, you’re in good shape!  There are some that can be accessed from the i-phone but I prefer windows access.  We had an eero router but it could only be accessed from the i-phone and it didn’t work with voiceover.  I’m on spectrum and I can access our combination modem/router from google chrome or firefox or internet explorer.  Have a blesse day!  Your bro!  BZ! 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

 

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: Outlook 2016 email replies

David Diamond
 

I just use the

applications key then scroll down once to reply, reply to all is the next one down.  Also sometimes I do have to do what Don suggested.  Although rarely.  I was told years ago when using Gmail to use the control R command, I just found it did not work as quickly and efficiently as using the applications key. 

moderated Re: An accessible router

Glenn / Lenny
 


Also, on an ISP's router/modem, you can usually log into your account on-line, like if you were going to pay your bill on-line, and you can get your router's password there.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: An accessible router

The problem is that the modems most ISP’s provide and which are also WiFi routers have to have a password because a large majority of people would never set one and that would result in a huge liability if, for example, they end up connecting cameras in their house and then somebody could very easily access them via an unprotected network. A lot of these Internet of things devices are insecure enough as it is.

If you buy a router from one of the known brands such as Netgear, Linksys, Cisco, D-Link, Asus and so on there will be a default password which often is “password” or “admin” or something like thart.

If you don’t know the default password of your router but you know the brand you can simply Google something like “What is the default password for a Netgear router” and you’ll find the answer.

This of course means you absolutely have to change the password to something a lot more secure because if you can Google what the password is so can anybody else and the people who make it their business to hack into home networks probably don’t even have to Google it as they’ll know the default passwords of most brands by heart.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I've never heard of that, unless it came from an ISP.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

The thing i find annoying with any of the wifi modems i get lately the password is already turned on by default to access the modem settigs.

In the past it was blank now you need sighted help to read the password under the modem.

cheers Michael.

On 15/04/2020 11:28 am, Tyler Wood wrote:

I have the google wireless nest mesh system which works, most likely, the best of any router I have ever owned, hardware wise

It’s fantastic if you happen to have a mobile device, however they do require the google WiFi app. The app itself provides everything in a fantastic and screen reader friendly area, however, and there isn’t an unlabeled button found.  However if your specific requirement is PC, unfortunately out of luck there, which is odd to me.

Hope that helps somewhat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

Hi.

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: An accessible router

 

The problem is that the modems most ISP’s provide and which are also WiFi routers have to have a password because a large majority of people would never set one and that would result in a huge liability if, for example, they end up connecting cameras in their house and then somebody could very easily access them via an unprotected network. A lot of these Internet of things devices are insecure enough as it is.

If you buy a router from one of the known brands such as Netgear, Linksys, Cisco, D-Link, Asus and so on there will be a default password which often is “password” or “admin” or something like thart.

If you don’t know the default password of your router but you know the brand you can simply Google something like “What is the default password for a Netgear router” and you’ll find the answer.

This of course means you absolutely have to change the password to something a lot more secure because if you can Google what the password is so can anybody else and the people who make it their business to hack into home networks probably don’t even have to Google it as they’ll know the default passwords of most brands by heart.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I've never heard of that, unless it came from an ISP.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

The thing i find annoying with any of the wifi modems i get lately the password is already turned on by default to access the modem settigs.

In the past it was blank now you need sighted help to read the password under the modem.

cheers Michael.

On 15/04/2020 11:28 am, Tyler Wood wrote:

I have the google wireless nest mesh system which works, most likely, the best of any router I have ever owned, hardware wise

It’s fantastic if you happen to have a mobile device, however they do require the google WiFi app. The app itself provides everything in a fantastic and screen reader friendly area, however, and there isn’t an unlabeled button found.  However if your specific requirement is PC, unfortunately out of luck there, which is odd to me.

Hope that helps somewhat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

Hi.

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: An accessible router

Marty Hutchings
 

I find that the Seeing AI ap is great for reading things like this.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: An accessible router
 

The thing i find annoying with any of the wifi modems i get lately the password is already turned on by default to access the modem settings.

In the past it was blank now you need sighted help to read the password under the modem.

cheers Michael.

On 15/04/2020 11:28 am, Tyler Wood wrote:

I have the Google wireless nest mesh system which works, most likely, the best of any router I have ever owned, hardware wise

It’s fantastic if you happen to have a mobile device, however they do require the Google Wifi app. The app itself provides everything in a fantastic and screen reader friendly area, however, and there isn’t an unlabeled button found.  However if your specific requirement is PC, unfortunately out of luck there, which is odd to me.

 

 

Hope that helps somewhat.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.

 

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

 

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

 

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Jaws problem making labels in Word 365

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

 

On my Win 10 PC I’m using J 2020.2003.13 and Word 365. I am making address labels, and when I type or paste text into the address field, I am unable to review the text with Jaws. When I curser around I get nothing. No blank blank or anything, and this is using PC and Jaws cursor. If I use the touch cursor, I can get to where I can see the address on one line, which is better than nothing, I guess. A sighted person can see the address fine, and it prints fine on the label but I really need to be able to review and edit and make sure it’s correct before I print. I don’t recall when this issue began,   but I know it was happening in J 2019. Word is maximized and restarting Jaws doesn’t help. I just tried it with J 2018 with the same result.

I welcome your suggestions. Maybe I should contact FS tech support but often the info I get from this list is much more helpful. 😀   

  

Take care,

Norma

moderated Re: An accessible router

Glenn / Lenny
 


I've never heard of that, unless it came from an ISP.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: An accessible router

The thing i find annoying with any of the wifi modems i get lately the password is already turned on by default to access the modem settigs.

In the past it was blank now you need sighted help to read the password under the modem.

cheers Michael.

On 15/04/2020 11:28 am, Tyler Wood wrote:

I have the google wireless nest mesh system which works, most likely, the best of any router I have ever owned, hardware wise

It’s fantastic if you happen to have a mobile device, however they do require the google WiFi app. The app itself provides everything in a fantastic and screen reader friendly area, however, and there isn’t an unlabeled button found.  However if your specific requirement is PC, unfortunately out of luck there, which is odd to me.

Hope that helps somewhat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

Hi.

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: An accessible router

michaeel's mail
 

The thing i find annoying with any of the wifi modems i get lately the password is already turned on by default to access the modem settigs.

In the past it was blank now you need sighted help to read the password under the modem.

cheers Michael.

On 15/04/2020 11:28 am, Tyler Wood wrote:

I have the google wireless nest mesh system which works, most likely, the best of any router I have ever owned, hardware wise

It’s fantastic if you happen to have a mobile device, however they do require the google WiFi app. The app itself provides everything in a fantastic and screen reader friendly area, however, and there isn’t an unlabeled button found.  However if your specific requirement is PC, unfortunately out of luck there, which is odd to me.

 

 

Hope that helps somewhat.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.

 

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

 

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

 

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: Outlook 2016 email replies

Bill White
 

Hi, Amy. Try creating a configuration file in JAWS, by using Insert plus F2, Go to Settings Center while Outlook is open, then create the configuration file, with Quick Settings turned off, and see if this remedies the problem.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amy Bower
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:30 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Cc: Amy S Bower
Subject: Outlook 2016 email replies

 

Hi All – I think I’ve posted this before, but I have never been able to completely resolve it. And the problem is getting worse on my rather new Lenovo P53 laptop. I’m running Windows 10, Jaws 2020, with Outlook 2016 (not 365, but just the stand-alone Office 2016 that my employer provides). I’ve had this problem with all my 4 machines (which include a Dell Latitude, another Lenovo P52, and a Dell Desktop), running Windows 10 with Jaws 2019 or Jaws 2020.

Here is the problem. When I reply to an email using control+r, the reply window opens as it should, but when I start typing, it is quickly obvious that Jaws has dropped into Quick Navigation mode, so that if I type letter T, Jaws goes looking for a table, or the letter P sends it looking for the next paragraph.  If I close that reply, and try again, the problem is gone. I can also hit Jaws key + z and turn off Quick Navigation. Unfortunately, this dropping into Quick Navigation mode doesn’t happen on every reply, and I have not been able to discern any pattern whatsoever on when it will happen and when it won’t. it is driving me crazy! I have to process tons of emails per day, and when I have to constantly back-track to start a reply over again, it wastes time and energy. Not to mention it is totally frustrating!  I just learned recently that alt+r also opens the reply window, and it may be that the problem doesn’t occur then – I haven’t fully tested that. It will be hard for me to use alt+r instead of control+r, but I’ll re-train myself if I have to to avoid this problem. FS says various things – your scripts are corrupted (not so – in my recent Jaws 2020 install, I didn’t merge my settings from Jaws 2019), video drivers need updating (that didn’t help), it all gets better with Outlook 365 (that is months away at my place of employment), that was a problem in earlier versions but not any  more (not true). I’ve scoured the web looking for any mention of this and find nothing. How can that be? What is so different about my installation that this problem plagues me but no one else? Thanks for any advice you can provide.

-Amy B.

moderated Re: Outlook 2016 email replies

Mike B
 

Hi Amy,
 
I don't use Outlook 2016, I run Outlook Express, so this is just something to try if you have the following setting in Outlook2016.  While in Outlook open Jaws quick settings, Insert + V.  Down arrow to General Mail Settings and see if you have this setting,
Messages automatically read, if it's checked try unchecking it, then tab to and press enter on the Okay button to see if this'll help.
 
Also while in Outlook, make sure the window is maximized, Windows key + up arrow, or, Alt + spacebar, let up and press the letter, X.
 
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Amy Bower
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:29 PM
Subject: Outlook 2016 email replies

Hi All – I think I’ve posted this before, but I have never been able to completely resolve it. And the problem is getting worse on my rather new Lenovo P53 laptop. I’m running Windows 10, Jaws 2020, with Outlook 2016 (not 365, but just the stand-alone Office 2016 that my employer provides). I’ve had this problem with all my 4 machines (which include a Dell Latitude, another Lenovo P52, and a Dell Desktop), running Windows 10 with Jaws 2019 or Jaws 2020.

Here is the problem. When I reply to an email using control+r, the reply window opens as it should, but when I start typing, it is quickly obvious that Jaws has dropped into Quick Navigation mode, so that if I type letter T, Jaws goes looking for a table, or the letter P sends it looking for the next paragraph.  If I close that reply, and try again, the problem is gone. I can also hit Jaws key + z and turn off Quick Navigation. Unfortunately, this dropping into Quick Navigation mode doesn’t happen on every reply, and I have not been able to discern any pattern whatsoever on when it will happen and when it won’t. it is driving me crazy! I have to process tons of emails per day, and when I have to constantly back-track to start a reply over again, it wastes time and energy. Not to mention it is totally frustrating!  I just learned recently that alt+r also opens the reply window, and it may be that the problem doesn’t occur then – I haven’t fully tested that. It will be hard for me to use alt+r instead of control+r, but I’ll re-train myself if I have to to avoid this problem. FS says various things – your scripts are corrupted (not so – in my recent Jaws 2020 install, I didn’t merge my settings from Jaws 2019), video drivers need updating (that didn’t help), it all gets better with Outlook 365 (that is months away at my place of employment), that was a problem in earlier versions but not any  more (not true). I’ve scoured the web looking for any mention of this and find nothing. How can that be? What is so different about my installation that this problem plagues me but no one else? Thanks for any advice you can provide.

-Amy B.

moderated Re: An accessible router

Tyler Wood
 

I have the google wireless nest mesh system which works, most likely, the best of any router I have ever owned, hardware wise

It’s fantastic if you happen to have a mobile device, however they do require the google WiFi app. The app itself provides everything in a fantastic and screen reader friendly area, however, and there isn’t an unlabeled button found.  However if your specific requirement is PC, unfortunately out of luck there, which is odd to me.

 

 

Hope that helps somewhat.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 7:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.

 

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

 

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

 

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: Outlook 2016 email replies

Don Walls
 

Amy, sometimes I can’t type into a reply email immediately and if I use shift tab away to the subject line and then tab back into the text area the problem disappears.
 
Don
 
 

From: Amy Bower
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Cc: Amy S Bower
Subject: Outlook 2016 email replies
 

Hi All – I think I’ve posted this before, but I have never been able to completely resolve it. And the problem is getting worse on my rather new Lenovo P53 laptop. I’m running Windows 10, Jaws 2020, with Outlook 2016 (not 365, but just the stand-alone Office 2016 that my employer provides). I’ve had this problem with all my 4 machines (which include a Dell Latitude, another Lenovo P52, and a Dell Desktop), running Windows 10 with Jaws 2019 or Jaws 2020.

Here is the problem. When I reply to an email using control+r, the reply window opens as it should, but when I start typing, it is quickly obvious that Jaws has dropped into Quick Navigation mode, so that if I type letter T, Jaws goes looking for a table, or the letter P sends it looking for the next paragraph.  If I close that reply, and try again, the problem is gone. I can also hit Jaws key + z and turn off Quick Navigation. Unfortunately, this dropping into Quick Navigation mode doesn’t happen on every reply, and I have not been able to discern any pattern whatsoever on when it will happen and when it won’t. it is driving me crazy! I have to process tons of emails per day, and when I have to constantly back-track to start a reply over again, it wastes time and energy. Not to mention it is totally frustrating!  I just learned recently that alt+r also opens the reply window, and it may be that the problem doesn’t occur then – I haven’t fully tested that. It will be hard for me to use alt+r instead of control+r, but I’ll re-train myself if I have to to avoid this problem. FS says various things – your scripts are corrupted (not so – in my recent Jaws 2020 install, I didn’t merge my settings from Jaws 2019), video drivers need updating (that didn’t help), it all gets better with Outlook 365 (that is months away at my place of employment), that was a problem in earlier versions but not any  more (not true). I’ve scoured the web looking for any mention of this and find nothing. How can that be? What is so different about my installation that this problem plagues me but no one else? Thanks for any advice you can provide.

-Amy B.

moderated Re: An accessible router

Richard Turner
 

Most routers these days use a web interface.
We just bought a Lynksys router and the interface is quite accessible using Jaws.
And, the one issue we ran into was dealt with easily by calling their toll free support line.
I don't remember the model number off hand.


Richard


(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C



On Apr 14, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.

 

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

 

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

 

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: An accessible router

 

I am quite partial to the higher-end Netgear routers but also had an Asus one and a Cisco and I don’t think I had a router in the last 10 years which didn’t get accessed via a web interface and where I couldn’t use the interface.

Too bad you guys are I think all in the US, I have a Netgear Nighthawk X6 R8000 triband router which I’d gladly sell for a good price, but shipping would probably be expensive.

I have switched to the Netgear Orbi mesh system both at home and, at my retail store I use the Orbi Pro/business version and this Nighthawk and my Asus RT-AC3200 Tri-Band Gigabit Router for which I paid over $300 Canadian are just sitting on a shelf.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

 

Hi.

 

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

 

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

 

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: Outlook 2016 email replies

David Griffith
 

                                                Apart from learning a muscle memory of alt r rather than control r, which may be your best bet, the only user action I can think of is to force Outlook to send your emails as plain text only. You should be able to set this up in mail settings  and logically this should preclude jaws from recognising any html elements from which it can attempt to  quick navigate to. Replying or sending mails in plain text would need to be acceptable to your employer’s mail formats I guess.

The other quick way to force a refocus into an edit box is to hit the alt key twice quickly. This may resolve your problem more quickly but is likely to be just as annoying as other actions you are having to take I suspect.

I agree FS should be more helpful, especially as you are in an employment situation  for which Jaws is supposed to be primarily focussed.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amy Bower
Sent: 15 April 2020 01:30
To: jfw@groups.io
Cc: Amy S Bower <abower@...>
Subject: Outlook 2016 email replies

 

Hi All – I think I’ve posted this before, but I have never been able to completely resolve it. And the problem is getting worse on my rather new Lenovo P53 laptop. I’m running Windows 10, Jaws 2020, with Outlook 2016 (not 365, but just the stand-alone Office 2016 that my employer provides). I’ve had this problem with all my 4 machines (which include a Dell Latitude, another Lenovo P52, and a Dell Desktop), running Windows 10 with Jaws 2019 or Jaws 2020.

Here is the problem. When I reply to an email using control+r, the reply window opens as it should, but when I start typing, it is quickly obvious that Jaws has dropped into Quick Navigation mode, so that if I type letter T, Jaws goes looking for a table, or the letter P sends it looking for the next paragraph.  If I close that reply, and try again, the problem is gone. I can also hit Jaws key + z and turn off Quick Navigation. Unfortunately, this dropping into Quick Navigation mode doesn’t happen on every reply, and I have not been able to discern any pattern whatsoever on when it will happen and when it won’t. it is driving me crazy! I have to process tons of emails per day, and when I have to constantly back-track to start a reply over again, it wastes time and energy. Not to mention it is totally frustrating!  I just learned recently that alt+r also opens the reply window, and it may be that the problem doesn’t occur then – I haven’t fully tested that. It will be hard for me to use alt+r instead of control+r, but I’ll re-train myself if I have to to avoid this problem. FS says various things – your scripts are corrupted (not so – in my recent Jaws 2020 install, I didn’t merge my settings from Jaws 2019), video drivers need updating (that didn’t help), it all gets better with Outlook 365 (that is months away at my place of employment), that was a problem in earlier versions but not any  more (not true). I’ve scoured the web looking for any mention of this and find nothing. How can that be? What is so different about my installation that this problem plagues me but no one else? Thanks for any advice you can provide.

-Amy B.

moderated Outlook 2016 email replies

Amy Bower
 

Hi All – I think I’ve posted this before, but I have never been able to completely resolve it. And the problem is getting worse on my rather new Lenovo P53 laptop. I’m running Windows 10, Jaws 2020, with Outlook 2016 (not 365, but just the stand-alone Office 2016 that my employer provides). I’ve had this problem with all my 4 machines (which include a Dell Latitude, another Lenovo P52, and a Dell Desktop), running Windows 10 with Jaws 2019 or Jaws 2020.

Here is the problem. When I reply to an email using control+r, the reply window opens as it should, but when I start typing, it is quickly obvious that Jaws has dropped into Quick Navigation mode, so that if I type letter T, Jaws goes looking for a table, or the letter P sends it looking for the next paragraph.  If I close that reply, and try again, the problem is gone. I can also hit Jaws key + z and turn off Quick Navigation. Unfortunately, this dropping into Quick Navigation mode doesn’t happen on every reply, and I have not been able to discern any pattern whatsoever on when it will happen and when it won’t. it is driving me crazy! I have to process tons of emails per day, and when I have to constantly back-track to start a reply over again, it wastes time and energy. Not to mention it is totally frustrating!  I just learned recently that alt+r also opens the reply window, and it may be that the problem doesn’t occur then – I haven’t fully tested that. It will be hard for me to use alt+r instead of control+r, but I’ll re-train myself if I have to to avoid this problem. FS says various things – your scripts are corrupted (not so – in my recent Jaws 2020 install, I didn’t merge my settings from Jaws 2019), video drivers need updating (that didn’t help), it all gets better with Outlook 365 (that is months away at my place of employment), that was a problem in earlier versions but not any  more (not true). I’ve scoured the web looking for any mention of this and find nothing. How can that be? What is so different about my installation that this problem plagues me but no one else? Thanks for any advice you can provide.

-Amy B.

moderated Re: An accessible router

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

A month ago I purchased a Netgear combination router and cable modem. You can use your browser of choice to access it. Sounds like you just need a router with WI-FI in it. I’m quite pleased with what I have.

 

Kevin Jilly and Valerie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An accessible router

 

My WIFI router has bit the dust.  Does anyone have any recommendations for a router with an accessible interface with JAWS?

moderated Re: An accessible router

netbat66
 

not entirely true.
i don't know how you would find outbefore you buy. but there have been a few routers that use a windows like interface that is mostly mouse driven.
and i don't know if they would work with screen readers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: An accessible router

Hi. Routers are accessible through their web interface. Ask the technician who will help you set up your router to give you your router's web address. The address might, for example, be 192.168.2.154, something like that. Then you can access it as you would any web site and set up the router on your own if you need to. Cheers!
On 4/15/2020 5:15 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote: