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Re: Chrome commands question using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020
JM Casey
Hi.
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The back button should work the same in firefox and chrome. Use alt-left arrow if you are in the same window. Not positive but I think there is a way in preferences to force everything to open in the same window or tab. Maybe look around for that. Regarding Firefox, I was having a lot of problems with it this week. I don't know exactly what happened. It has two or three times now gone screwy before an update, which is very strange. Sometimes an update fixes the problem ... it did until recently, but yesterday I ended up refreshing the browser *again*, after having already done so before the update to no avail. Now firefox is good and snappy again using the latest update and an oldie JFW 2018. So maybe make sure you are up to date and, if you are still experiencing firefox flakiness, try a refresh -- you'll have to re-install your extensions though. The only one I had was uBlock origin -- jury's out on whether uBlock was actaully causing some of the issues I was having.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson Sent: April 10, 2020 9:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Chrome commands question using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020 Good morning group, I am using Chrome on a Windows 10 machine with JAWS 2020 and I am having trouble with the following tasks which I had no problem completing using Firefox (which has gone completely flaky on my laptop). Opening a file on a web page. In Firefox I could click a file link and I would be given the option to open or save the file. Chrome does not give me this option. According to web searches using CTRL+Enter and/or SHIFT+Enter should do the trick. Neither option works for me. Closing a window and/or going back to the previous window. In Firefox I could use the File, Close Window to complete this task. As an example after performing a Google search I click on a result and after reading it I want to go back to the results page. Web searches have not turned up any viable solutions. Thanks for everyone's help, Patrick
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Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
JM Casey
Well, I wouldn’t. There are a few levels of uAC; I wouldn’t just say yes to whatever it asks, it’s good that it lets you know what programmes are attempting to do admin tasks and I’m certainly glad (after having disabled it for a time myself) that extra layer of security is there. User discretion is a good thing.
The 33% setting doesn’t seem to work with jAWS or nVDA in the sense that you can’t read what app is attempting to gain access. Weird. I have mine set to 66% (I think it is) and the difference isnt’ appreciable, and now I can read the uAC screen properly. Not sure about the “secure uap” window the OP mentions – have you tried a google search to see what this might be?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: April 10, 2020 9:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Why not just disable uac? It doesn't really do what it promises, and many people will just say yes to whatever they are asked anyway.
On 4/10/2020 08:06, Daniel Wolak wrote:
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Re: Chrome commands question using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020
Adrian Spratt
Patrick,
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My experience with Chrome is that when I click on a download link, the file is downloaded without any confirmation. The way to find out if it's arrived in your system is to press shift-F6. If it's there, JAWS will speak its name. Assuming your default is your downloads folder, you can also navigate to that folder and confirm. Robin answered your other question. I'd add that control-F4 closes an individual window for me.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Chrome commands question using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020 Good morning group, I am using Chrome on a Windows 10 machine with JAWS 2020 and I am having trouble with the following tasks which I had no problem completing using Firefox (which has gone completely flaky on my laptop). Opening a file on a web page. In Firefox I could click a file link and I would be given the option to open or save the file. Chrome does not give me this option. According to web searches using CTRL+Enter and/or SHIFT+Enter should do the trick. Neither option works for me. Closing a window and/or going back to the previous window. In Firefox I could use the File, Close Window to complete this task. As an example after performing a Google search I click on a result and after reading it I want to go back to the results page. Web searches have not turned up any viable solutions. Thanks for everyone's help, Patrick
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Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Adrian Spratt
You don’t mention the n key for skipping links, visited or not.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Luke
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option. I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key
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Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Sieghard. I did try using the Touch Cursor, but no matter what I did, I couldn’t Tab, SHIFT plus TAB or even answer with ALT plus Y until I turned on Narrator. So, this is a JAWS issue, and it has been going on since the first release of JAWS 2020.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Have you tried using the Touch cursor to see if you can get to Yes with that?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
No, I wasn’t. But starting Narrator works well, because, once I have answered Yes to the UAC prompt, I can just toggle Narrator off again with CONTROL plus WINDOWS key, ENTER.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Hi, Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator? Thanks for the responses.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Bill White
I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Hi all, I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64. Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal. Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window. Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept. I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this? Cheers,
Daniel
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Re: Chrome commands question using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020
Van Lant, Robin
A couple ideas,
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When doing a Google Search, if the site you visit opens in a new window or tab, you can use Control W to close that window and go back to your results page. If the site appears in the same tab as your results, Alt left arrow will take you back a page. I'm not sure about the file opening, as I do let them download first, but you might trying using the content menu on the link and select Save As.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Chrome commands question using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020 Good morning group, I am using Chrome on a Windows 10 machine with JAWS 2020 and I am having trouble with the following tasks which I had no problem completing using Firefox (which has gone completely flaky on my laptop). Opening a file on a web page. In Firefox I could click a file link and I would be given the option to open or save the file. Chrome does not give me this option. According to web searches using CTRL+Enter and/or SHIFT+Enter should do the trick. Neither option works for me. Closing a window and/or going back to the previous window. In Firefox I could use the File, Close Window to complete this task. As an example after performing a Google search I click on a result and after reading it I want to go back to the results page. Web searches have not turned up any viable solutions. Thanks for everyone's help, Patrick This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Van Lant, Robin
Tab goes through all form elements including buttons, edit boxes, combo boxes, etc. If you know you are looking for links, it’s nice to just move through that type of element. I use the Links list box a whole lots more, too, so that I can use first letter navigation to get to a particular link, but it’s nice to have options.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:57 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Can somebody tell me how having a quick nav key for Any Link differs from using tab?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I am an old Window-Eyes user, so I dumped the List hot key, which was l and made it the any link key. I seldom if ever want to jump to the next list…
Its really up to your own preference.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Mike B
Hi Luke,
Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws manager and navigate to, Navigate Quick Keys, and press enter. In here is where you can either add or change your key assignments.
----- Original Message ----- From: Luke Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option. I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Have you tried using the Touch cursor to see if you can get to Yes with that?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:22 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
No, I wasn’t. But starting Narrator works well, because, once I have answered Yes to the UAC prompt, I can just toggle Narrator off again with CONTROL plus WINDOWS key, ENTER.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Hi, Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator? Thanks for the responses.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Bill White
I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Hi all, I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64. Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal. Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window. Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept. I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this? Cheers,
Daniel
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Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Can somebody tell me how having a quick nav key for Any Link differs from using tab?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:59 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
I am an old Window-Eyes user, so I dumped the List hot key, which was l and made it the any link key. I seldom if ever want to jump to the next list…
Its really up to your own preference.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B
Hi Luke,
Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws manager and navigate to, Navigate Quick Keys, and press enter. In here is where you can either add or change your key assignments.
----- Original Message ----- From: Luke Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option. I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key
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Re: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS
Ann Byrne
JAWS has an archived webinar on using MS Teams. It is very helpful.
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At 09:49 AM 4/10/2020, you wrote:
Hi Sameer,
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Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Richard Turner
I am an old Window-Eyes user, so I dumped the List hot key, which was l and made it the any link key. I seldom if ever want to jump to the next list…
Its really up to your own preference.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Hi Luke,
Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws manager and navigate to, Navigate Quick Keys, and press enter. In here is where you can either add or change your key assignments.
----- Original Message ----- From: Luke Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option. I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key
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Re: sound card crackles
Jim Pursley
Ditto. I had thought that my two sound card setup created the
interference and warbled speech but it now seems to have another
cause. Closing and reopening JAWS does the trick.
On 4/10/2020 1:11 PM, Dan Longmore
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Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Mike B
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Hi Luke,
Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws manager and
navigate to, Navigate Quick Keys, and press enter. In here is where you
can either add or change your key assignments.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
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From: Luke
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM
Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link
key
Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option. I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key
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Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
No, I wasn’t. But starting Narrator works well, because, once I have answered Yes to the UAC prompt, I can just toggle Narrator off again with CONTROL plus WINDOWS key, ENTER.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Hi, Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator? Thanks for the responses.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Bill White
I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Hi all, I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64. Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal. Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window. Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept. I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this? Cheers,
Daniel
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Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Daniel Wolak
Hi, Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator? Thanks for the responses.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Bill White
Sent: April 10, 2020 12:39 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Hi all, I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64. Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal. Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window. Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept. I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this? Cheers,
Daniel
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Re: Email client for Jaws 2019
Don H
I am using the latest version of Thunderbird along with the
latest version of NVDA and have no issues. I neever have the
statgus bar enabled. See no real need to have it enabled.
On 4/10/2020 11:43 AM, Leo wrote:
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Re: Email client for Jaws 2019
Leo
oh
yes, about that, as you supposed, it's an issue for n v d a
users, not jaws users, I'm pretty sure of it!
Best, Leo On 4/10/2020 10:22 AM, David Griffith
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Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
I did some switching: I turned place marker into P, then use K for Any Link. I don’t tend to use P for paragraph, as ctrl+down arrow works.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:29 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
I set mine to Y. I think the default is that Y does the next span element and I just don’t navigate with that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke
Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option. I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.
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Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue
Hi all, I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64. Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal. Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window. Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept. I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this? Cheers,
Daniel
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Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Van Lant, Robin
I set mine to Y. I think the default is that Y does the next span element and I just don’t navigate with that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Luke
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key
Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option. I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key, send an email to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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