Why not just disable uac?  It doesn't really do what it promises, and many people will just say yes to whatever they are asked anyway.

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

 

Daniel

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Have you tried using the Touch cursor to see if you can get to Yes with that?

No, I wasn’t. But starting Narrator works well, because, once I have answered Yes to the UAC prompt, I can just toggle Narrator off again with CONTROL plus WINDOWS key, ENTER.

Hi,

Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator?

Thanks for the responses.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

Daniel

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Can somebody tell me how having a quick nav key for Any Link differs from using tab?

I am an old Window-Eyes user, so I dumped the List hot key, which was l and made it the any link key.

I seldom if ever want to jump to the next list…

Its really up to your own preference.

No, I wasn’t. But starting Narrator works well, because, once I have answered Yes to the UAC prompt, I can just toggle Narrator off again with CONTROL plus WINDOWS key, ENTER.

Hi,

Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator?

Thanks for the responses.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

Daniel

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I am an old Window-Eyes user, so I dumped the List hot key, which was l and made it the any link key.

I seldom if ever want to jump to the next list…

Its really up to your own preference.

Hi Sameer,

I'm hardly using Teams for three weeks now on a laptop running Windows 10 with jaws 2020 latest update because this is my employer's recommended tool for remote working.

This app is globally accessible except for defining a "contact group" in the "Chat" tab, "Contacts" subtab.

In order to learn how to use it, I started from this web page:

<https://support.office.com/en-us/article/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-teams-538a8741-f21b-4b04-b575-9df70ed4105d#picktab=windows>https://support.office.com/en-us/article/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-teams-538a8741-f21b-4b04-b575-9df70ed4105d#picktab=windows

I did not install any Jaws script yet but if there are some, I'd also like to know.

Hope this helps. Have a nice day. Chris D

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:36 PM
To: JFW Group <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Dear List Friends,

Is Microsoft Teams accessible with JAWS or do we need to install additional JAWS scrips to make it accessible? If we need to install additional JAWS scrips, kindly inform me where I can get these scrips.

Also, request you to kindly point me to a source for keystrokes to be used with Microsoft Teams. I am using the latest version of JAWS 2020 on a Windows 10 machine.

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India

Hi,

  In addition to what others have written I just want to add my experience.

From time to time my sound card will begin to crackle.  Dumping and re starting JAWS fixes the issue.  I have never traced what causes the problem and as it is intermittent it is hard to determine .  I am using Win 10 ,latest version, and latest release of JAWS on an HP with dedicated video memory and 16gb of memory. 

No solution I know rather just a note that I have seen the issue and a JAWS re start takes care of it.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sound card crackles

 

Hi All,

 

I was just wondering if any of you have ever noticed your sound card device crackle when using speech?  I just got a new Lenovo p52 mobile workstation computer and there is some annoying crackle when speech occurs.  I would appreciate if anyone has any good ideas on how to fix this.

 

Best,

 

Juan

Hi,

Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator?

Thanks for the responses.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

Daniel

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

Daniel

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

oh yes, about that, as you supposed, it's an issue for n v d a users, not jaws users, I'm pretty sure of it!

Best,
   Leo

On 4/10/2020 10:22 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

I have not installed the latest version of thunderbird but there have been numerous complaints over the last few days on the  NVDA list that  the latest version has become unusable as it has become too verbose and there was wide disappointment that Mozeilla had failed to test it with screenreaders. There were complaints that it was now unusable and  looking to downgrade to previous versions.

 

It may be that Jaws users are getting a different experience but   I had assumed that there would be a relatively similar screenreader experience. Certainly in the past NVDA and Jaws had performed relatively similarly when I have used Thunderbird in the past.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 10 April 2020 15:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?

I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM

Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019

I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

 

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

 

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose

focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

 

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus

from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a

press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of

my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

 

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is

lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview

reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an

email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail

without even opening it.

 

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some

reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just

pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

 

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am

aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it

with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before

sending this message back to you.

 

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative

than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in

the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of

accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook

Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not

personally use this.

 

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I

really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first

rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich

may have even more access challenges.

 

David Griffith

 

.

 

this

 

load.

 

You have to get used to using the shift

 

.

 

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos

*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io

*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

 

Hi all

I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a

email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.

I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,

but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing

something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make

these work better with Jaws 2019?

 

Thank you

 

Nickus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have not installed the latest version of thunderbird but there have been numerous complaints over the last few days on the  NVDA list that  the latest version has become unusable as it has become too verbose and there was wide disappointment that Mozeilla had failed to test it with screenreaders. There were complaints that it was now unusable and  looking to downgrade to previous versions.

 

It may be that Jaws users are getting a different experience but   I had assumed that there would be a relatively similar screenreader experience. Certainly in the past NVDA and Jaws had performed relatively similarly when I have used Thunderbird in the past.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 10 April 2020 15:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?

I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM

Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019

I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

 

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

 

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose

focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

 

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus

from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a

press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of

my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

 

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is

lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview

reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an

email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail

without even opening it.

 

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some

reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just

pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

 

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am

aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it

with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before

sending this message back to you.

 

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative

than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in

the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of

accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook

Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not

personally use this.

 

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I

really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first

rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich

may have even more access challenges.

 

David Griffith

 

.

 

this

 

load.

 

You have to get used to using the shift

 

.

 

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos

*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io

*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

 

Hi all

I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a

email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.

I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,

but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing

something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make

these work better with Jaws 2019?

 

Thank you

 

Nickus

 

 

 

 

 

 

I set mine to Y.  I think the default is that Y does the next span element and I just don’t navigate with that.

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Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

Daniel

Sent from Mail for Windows 10